[matija]

hi i'm new here.
i'm on methadone for 9 years now and i am thinking to go on subotex, is this posible?

thanks in advance.

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by matija

hi i'm new here.
i'm on methadone for 9 years now and i am thinking to go on subotex, is this posible?

thanks in advance.

Yes it is but you need to be taking no more than 30mg of methadone prior to making the switch. If you're taking more than that you'll need to titrate the dose down or you'll have more problems than you care to hear about I promise. Tell me where you are on your methadone dose. Then I can give you more suggestions that will make this work for you. I do this every day. God bless.

[no_more_tram]

Good Luck to You!! Hope you do well if you decide to switch. From what I hear, and from abusing Methadone I would think switching to Subs would be a better thing. Let us know what you decide to do, and Robert will definitely help you get to where you need to be

[cheekysod]

yes it is entirely possible. i have been on methadone for over 10 years, and made the move to subs and am down to 1.5mg, starting on 14mg about 3 months ago.
you need to be on 20-30mg to make the switch, whats your dose.
they are so much easier to taper down on than methadone, i have never managed to count off successfully on methadone, but however i feel confident i am on the right track to doing it this time with subs.
there is hope,
some of us old methadone people think there is no way off.
thanks to subs there is.
good luck matija.

it is possible.

[matija]

thank you for all replys.
i am from croatia, so methadone in my country is called heptanon, one pill is 5 mg. for years i am trying to reduce (i think you called that taper). i start with 20 pills (100 mg) then every one or two weeks i go one down, it's all good till i get to 10-12 pills, then i go up again, not because i feel w/d symptoms, it is just something in my head, i go over 20 pills, then i start all over again, tapering...
currently i'm on 20 (or something) pills, thats 100 mg.
so i would have to go down on at least 5 pills before i go to subotex.
how long would i have to be on subotex to not feel w/d symptoms of methadon?

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by matija

thank you for all replys.
i am from croatia, so methadone in my country is called heptanon, one pill is 5 mg. for years i am trying to reduce (i think you called that taper). i start with 20 pills (100 mg) then every one or two weeks i go one down, it's all good till i get to 10-12 pills, then i go up again, not because i feel w/d symptoms, it is just something in my head, i go over 20 pills, then i start all over again, tapering...
currently i'm on 20 (or something) pills, thats 100 mg.
so i would have to go down on at least 5 pills before i go to subotex.
how long would i have to be on subotex to not feel w/d symptoms of methadon?

When you get down to 30mg of methadone I can do the induction myself right here on the forum and I can have you feeling great within hours. But first you need to taper down to the proper dose or you'll have a very rough time doing this. God bless.

[cheekysod]

hey matija,
yeh you have to be on far less than that 100mg you are on now. 20 or 30 is ok.
but once you successfully change over, you immediately feel way better. oh and for me, i could always have more methadone, no matter how much i had already had. but subs, well i have not had any extra, or top ups, at all for the whole time ive been on them. and for me, that is very very unusual.
so i wholeheartedly recommend you try and slowly get your dose down, and make the switch.
good luck,

[matija]

Originally Posted by Robert_325

When you get down to 30mg of methadone I can do the induction myself right here on the forum and I can have you feeling great within hours. But first you need to taper down to the proper dose or you'll have a very rough time doing this. God bless.

what do you mean you can do the induction yourself right here on the forum?
my english is not so good.

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by matija

what do you mean you can do the induction yourself right here on the forum?
my english is not so good.

Means that when you are ready to begin I can help you do it the right way. God bless.

[Wannalivefree]

Hey All,
My first post here.I have suffered from opiate addiction on and off(mostly on) since 1992.Aggravated by bipolar disorder as well.Seventeen years of my life gone.I did manage two decent stints of sobriety during those seventeen yrs.One two yr period and another 11 1/2 month period of being totally clean.These were accomplished through extended residential treatment.ALL were before I went on methadone maintenance in 2002.
I have been on 50 mg for a couple years now.I went as high as 95 mg but have been 50 mg or lower for the past 4 yrs.I'm on once a week pick ups.No problems there.
I normally don't touch anything but weed.I have had a couple minor surgical stuff that I took a few percs for.Yeah, I can feel the 10/325's over my methadone.
I am getting ready for major surgery in which significant pain will be involved.Anyone know how this will be handled? Thx..peace wannaBfree

[cheekysod]

i had a major motor vehicle accident with 6 broken bones while on methadone,
be straight up, i was and it paid off.
they gave me my usual methadone, and as much morphine as required to make sure i had no pain.
yeh if you are honest, they will give you more than the average jo on the street to compensate for your tolerance.
there was all sorts of horror stories that if you were on a program you would get no pain releif but thats just bull.
the doctors i had were brilliant, and even the nurses were like "but you don't look like a .....drug addict", hah just what does "one" look like.
anyway thats my advice, be honest, and they will make sure you dont suffer any pain.
thats my experience anyway.
good luck
cheeky

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by Wannalivefree

Hey All,
My first post here.I have suffered from opiate addiction on and off(mostly on) since 1992.Aggravated by bipolar disorder as well.Seventeen years of my life gone.I did manage two decent stints of sobriety during those seventeen yrs.One two yr period and another 11 1/2 month period of being totally clean.These were accomplished through extended residential treatment.ALL were before I went on methadone maintenance in 2002.
I have been on 50 mg for a couple years now.I went as high as 95 mg but have been 50 mg or lower for the past 4 yrs.I'm on once a week pick ups.No problems there.
I normally don't touch anything but weed.I have had a couple minor surgical stuff that I took a few percs for.Yeah, I can feel the 10/325's over my methadone.
I am getting ready for major surgery in which significant pain will be involved.Anyone know how this will be handled? Thx..peace wannaBfree

I have to agree with cheekysod. There are a LOT of people in this world using methadone who require surgeries for whatever reason. The main thing is for you to always be totally honest with the drs, both the surgeon and the anesthesiologist. It's their job to help you not to morally judge you for being on methadone.

Trust me you won't be the first person they ever operated on who was a methadone patient. You won't have any problems at all as long as the drs involved know your history specifics. Let us know how things work out for you. I wish you the best of luck and will keep you in my prayers. God bless.