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Difference between real pain relief vs Addition / Abuse.
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    Scoliosis is offline Junior Member
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    Exclamation Difference between real pain relief vs Addition / Abuse.

    Title: Addiction VERSUS Abuse.

    let me say that i am sick and tired of all the bad press with oxycontin in the media.
    it has got to stop. Seriously. Some people actually need pain killers to live in some degree of comfort and when my doc today barely switched me BACK to Oxu(Neo), from Oxycontin (discontinued) I snapped. And then refused to leave his office unless I got at least a lower dose.

    >>> I don't want a bag of the 80mg pills, just give me a REASONABLE level !!

    He did. Barely. Sadly, the media and College of ... who govern docs in Canada has teamed up with media to attempt to cut everyone off of Oxycontin / NEO. Stupid. Dangerous. Unethical, should I go on? No.

    Never have taken meds prior to a few years back when I was at work and my body shut down. it was a sure sign of the years of over working myself, pushing, ignoring the signs, drinking, etc.. I have not drank in 2+ years. Do not smoke too.

    I stopped 3 weeks ago, at 300mg Oxy per day. I was fine, and at a 70% level of functioning ( I will never be the same as my nerves and spine are damaged). All of the docs say lay low, take it ez, do not work or use my body too much, walking, sitting, all of the movements affect me , and increase my pain. I have been unable to type this much in 2-3 weeks and have not left my house all but 2 times, showered every 3rd day. Not shaving, brushing, nothing. laying around counting the hours till my next pill and SEVERE anxiety ~ I was switched to Morphine and then Dilaudid. all low low doses and was in severe pain. Ugly.

    nightmares
    anxiety
    anger
    nausea
    rash
    heart palp ... 's
    textbook side effects
    in constant pain. brutal.

    MY LIFE.

    Sadly, there are some people , a few hundred thousand here and there, who abuse meds. Sell them. illegally.

    I don't. never did , will.

    So I demanded a switch today back to Oxy or I would not leave. y doc panicked and said yes, hardly. Now I am off to another pain clinic, some help, others are a sham. Money making farms. Doc's are ignorant. i lived it. Saw it. Felt it.

    So, as I agreed, lets taper down from 300mg >>> 210/ day...

    Fine. Just please please do not give me something that hurts me. Sure, my body is used to Oxy, perhaps chemically dependent , but it works. So why not help me?

    If you don't I WILL do anything in my power to get pain free. Anything. No needles, but anything else. No doubt.

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    And some more. Not fun. not one bit. At all. I am always hurting.

    I do not advocate illicit drug use and understand why so many people who are in pain do bad things, unless you have real chronic pain no matter what or how much you read up on pain the ones with real pain will truly understand why we say what we say and do what we do & resort to the things we do. We have to.

    Walk a mile in my shoe and wince in pain, feel your sweaty shirt, forehead moist, grunt, smile and then move on. Life could be worse.

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    I totally agree with you about the people who abuse meds making it hard for people who legitamatly need them to get them.

    I have been taking OxyContin for a few years now due to severe pain from my Multiple Sclerosis. I am just glad I have a DR who will fight for me.

    Ah well what can we do?

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    There is nothing to be ashamed of being an honest chronic pain patient. Some people require meds to have ANY quality of life and don't abuse anything even if they do become dependent. We do what we have to do to survive.

    My heart goes out to those people who can not make it without pain medication to live. It should be available to those who require it! Fat chance of any powers at be listening to me! Wish some of the decision makers could live the life of an honest chronic pain patient for a solid month and things would change. They wouldn't tolerate things as they are now. God bless.
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    I know how you feel. I have chronic pain myself but I found myself taking to much of the meds given to me so I made the choice to stop and live with the pain I am in.
    I have been fighting it for 6 years now and Doctors will do anything NOT to prescribe opiate pain meds even when proven that they are needed to live as normal as possible.
    It's a shame that people have to abuse or sell their meds so people who do need them,can't get them.
    I remember about 3-4 years ago,I was in the pharmacy getting a refill of Oxy when I was on it at the time. There was another person there getting some and while waiting was talking to someone on the phone telling them he was getting his oxy's and asked them how many they wanted and told them how much he wanted for them. That really made me mad and I went to the pharmacy and told them what the person was intending to do,needless to say,he didn't get his pills and was told he had to see his Doctor again before they would fill them for him. I really hope I put a stop to his days of dealing and got him flagged as a seller instead of someone who needs them. I don't regret doing it and I'd do it again if I had to.
    Hope everything works out for you and you can find a Dr who understands your pain.My Dr did but I took myself off the pain meds.I've never been told no I can't have them anymore,it was always my choice to go off the meds when I was on them.This last time with Vicodin,it was my choice to stop but I went a little further this time and told the Dr who prescribes them I don't want them anymore.It took some convincing but I got him to agree with me.He would of given me 60 a month if I wanted but I declined and told him I wanted something weaker so that I can get away from the Vicodin. I didn't tell him I was taking to many, just told him it was making me mean and changing the way I was thinking and I needed off them. I regretted it at first but now,I couldn't be more happier now that I am off them and on a weaker opiate that doesn't effect me in that way. I am going to stop taking them slowly so I avoid as much of the w/ds as possible but I have to do it that way since i have kids at home who rely solely on me as a single parent.

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    In the US a lot of doctors are simply afraid to prescribe pain medications. The DEA has them under the microscope at all times watching them. My father had cancer, and even he had a hard time finding a doctor that could give him relief. Even though he was terminal, doctors would still resist and usually send him to a "pain management" doctor. Even those Doctors were hesitant and it wasn't unusual to find out that the DEA had confiscated all of their patient records at one time or another. They were constantly monitored and yes, even harassed. I still get angry when I recall how much my father needlessly suffered before his death.

    A doctor shouldn't have his medical decisions influenced by some DEA bureaucrat in Washington. And while I applaud everyone here that has decided that pain meds are more problem than a solution to their own pain management, for a lot of people they make the difference between quality life and debilitating pain. That option should be available to them. For a lot of people without insurance, that's the only treatment option they have. They shouldn't be made to feel criminal because of that necessity.

    The DEA's policies will not stop or reduce the demand for illegal drugs. People have been getting high since the first caveman ate fermented fruit off the trees. All it does do is force people to find ever more dangerous ways to do it.

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    Dear Scoliosis,

    I do understand your frustration, Scoliosis - but I wanted to explain something from another point of view. It's often the nature of the drugs - not necessarily the nature of the patient - that rules doctors in this decision.

    I'm one of those folks who had been legitimately prescribed narcotics for horrendous chronic, daily migraines. I was in agony and the pain meds were essential at the time. For years I never abused them, never took any more than I needed. But, the nature of the drug itself lends a person toward "tolerance" - meaning, in order to gain the same pain relief, they need more of the drug than they did originally. So either the doctor ups the dose - or the patient increases what they take. Tolerance continues to progress over time, requiring more and more of the drug to gain relief. This is the path that led me into drug dependence and addiction.

    This is true for countless other patients who started out needing these drugs for very real, serious pain. I never set out to "get high" or have fun with them. I set out just wanting some pain relief. But addiction can happen to ANYONE, no matter how or why they began.

    The doctors SEE this happen all the time with their patients. So even if their patient needs pain relief, the doctor realizes that prescribing a strong narcotic may very well be setting their patient up for the nightmare of drug tolerance - dependency and addiction in very short order.

    A lot of us who became addicted this innocently are equally repelled by folks like Shawn mentioned, who are buying and selling drugs just for recreation. But not all drug addicts are in that category. And that is a grave concern for any ethical doctor. They do not want to lead their patients into the nightmare of addiction, so caution is advisable. While I hate that folks with serious pain struggle with their doctors for a legitimate prescription, I do have to say I can understand it. For any doctor with integrity wants to follow through on the "first, do no harm" in their oath, it's quite a challenge to manage pain relief with the addictive nature of these drugs.

    God bless,
    Ruth

    You will know the truth - and only the truth can set you free.

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    my doc told me he was afraid of giving them to me still , after all the bad press in Canada, not sure if you are aware of just how bad it is here. Bad.

    I am now awaiting a 2nd opinion as he is sending me to a pain clinic and i pray i wont have to look for a new doc .... i am disabled and born with physical - very obvious***
    conditions that you can see. I wont detail them but lets just say if you have 1 leg and a horn on your forehead then you are not normal. The hunch back doesnt help too.

    You see what I mean>?

    Its not like I am faking it, EVERY specialist agrees with my treatment but they are afraid to loose their license , and I keep assuring them I dont smoke , drink, do drugs, etc.. they have my ongoing blood tests!! Its all there, i take care.

    Honestly, if i ever get cut off I will resort to pure ________. sorry. Even if goes against all my moral,and ethical upbringing and culture.
    Mild to moderate symmetric disc bulging L3-L4 and L4-L5.
    Mild to moderate left facet joint osteoarthritis L3-L4. Thoracolumbar rotoscoliosis.
    And some more. Not fun. not one bit. At all. I am always hurting.

    I do not advocate illicit drug use and understand why so many people who are in pain do bad things, unless you have real chronic pain no matter what or how much you read up on pain the ones with real pain will truly understand why we say what we say and do what we do & resort to the things we do. We have to.

    Walk a mile in my shoe and wince in pain, feel your sweaty shirt, forehead moist, grunt, smile and then move on. Life could be worse.

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