[NosMC]

Ok, so I had a bad opiate addiction for a little under 2 years, was on suboxone for 2.5 months including the tapering off period. I did have an anxiety based respiratory problem where my breathing felt slow and shallow during the suboxone treatment which they said to me was all in my head as all nessecary testing was done and came back fine, the breathing thing is still happening but its gotton a lot better.

My doctors at the clinic told me to use valium for suboxone withdrawals but instead I have a tub of 50 2mg xanax tablets, same diff right? the doctor I get benzos off has given me like 150 2mg tabs in the last few weeks so I dont feel like I can go and then ask for a pack of vals aswell...

I'm going overseas in 2 days and i went 3 days without suboxone and on the third night I took another 2mg to ease withdrawals and I plan on taking another 2mg on the morning of my flight out. I found leaving days inbetween taking a small dose is helping a bit. But once I'm overseas I wont have anything except the xanax..

I'm wondering if anyone can help me out here I'm wondering if its safe for me to take xanax once I'm there or how long I should be waiting before I put this into my system? Aswell as what dose I should be using..

Also from experience how much does xanax help these withdrawals symptoms anyway?

[NosMC]

Maybe I should re-itterate my question..

Straight up--

Am i severly risking further complications from taking small doses of xanax while withdrawing from suboxone? Maybe 0.5?

And will it help?

[tired2]

Originally Posted by NosMC

Ok, so I had a bad opiate addiction for a little under 2 years, was on suboxone for 2.5 months including the tapering off period. I did have an anxiety based respiratory problem where my breathing felt slow and shallow during the suboxone treatment which they said to me was all in my head as all nessecary testing was done and came back fine, the breathing thing is still happening but its gotton a lot better.

My doctors at the clinic told me to use valium for suboxone withdrawals but instead I have a tub of 50 2mg xanax tablets, same diff right? the doctor I get benzos off has given me like 150 2mg tabs in the last few weeks so I dont feel like I can go and then ask for a pack of vals aswell...

I'm going overseas in 2 days and i went 3 days without suboxone and on the third night I took another 2mg to ease withdrawals and I plan on taking another 2mg on the morning of my flight out. I found leaving days inbetween taking a small dose is helping a bit. But once I'm overseas I wont have anything except the xanax..

I'm wondering if anyone can help me out here I'm wondering if its safe for me to take xanax once I'm there or how long I should be waiting before I put this into my system? Aswell as what dose I should be using..

Also from experience how much does xanax help these withdrawals symptoms anyway?

First off how much Suboxone were you taking and how did you taper.You should taper 25% every 4 days from the sub's.I see you said you had taken 2mgs of sub.First off subs have a half life of about 72 hours which is why you had w/d symptoms on day three.I know 2mgs doesn't sound like much but it is...you can not just take subs on a as needed base.

Taking any benzo will not help the w/d's from sub's it will only cause you alot more problems.It does not take long to get addicted to benzo's and comes with some serious w/d's.You are trading one addiction for another.
I have been there!!!

[RubyDean]

Nos, you need to tell us some more info. regarding your suboxone history...like tired said, the subs have a really long half life, and we usually don't really feel the w/d's till the third day anyway...so if you are taking 2mg of sub and you think you have 'tapered' down and are off them, then you are ina for a rude awakening. i don't want to scare you but it is the truth. the sub tapers usually go down after 2mg, to 1.5mg, 1mg, .75mg, .50mg, and often down to .25mg. Even then it can be difficult, and yes benzos, IF used for only a few days can help us with the anxiety and sleep, but should really only be used at the very end of the taper or for a short time when we jump completely. It sounds like you have a whole lot of them and could potentially take too much, making it a crutch, and a new bad habit that only creates more serious anxiety when stopping. hopefully you can share more about your sub use, and we can help you before you go out of the country with no help.

[NosMC]

Ok suboxone history... I started up in a week going from 4mg to 6 to 8 to 10 daily and began doing 10mg a day regular then they got me on this double dosing ******** where they gave me 20mg at once and the next day nothing that all took like a month and a half and then over the last month i tapered down weekly by 2mg increments every saturday and when i hit 8mg i went back to single dosing every day untill i went down to 2mg a day which is when i stopped.

During 2 days of the 6mg i stole two 2mg tablets for after i was compleatly off so i had a way out of withdrawals esp for the 23 hour flight...

On day 3 i took 2mg which stopped the withdrawals for 2 days then they came back then 4 days later on the morning before my flight at 3am it got so bad i cracked and took the last 2mg and the flight was ******** ofcourse but atleast i wasnt all cramped up (MUCH -_-)..

Now I'm not getting cramps as much as I was I've been finding that tylanol helps a bit but my sleeping patterns are totally ********ed up its 4:57am as I'm writing this I havnt slept one bit tonight and my girlfriend isnt sleeping either because im up all night talking to her..

Ive had xanax addiction before I got out of it by taking 100mg morphine sulfate tablets orally.. this time im going to be a lot more careful... all i want to know is will it be safe? maybe I'll just split a tomby in half and take 1mg surly it wont kill me...

[NosMC]

7:30am now i took 1mg xanax in 0.5 break off's at a time one each at the start and end of the hour and I also took another tylanol 500mg... I'm trying to persuade my girl to go get something with a strong codene content for the cramps in my legs since I dont have health care here..

The leg cramps got a lot worse in the last half hour so ive literally just had no sleep again.. I wonder since I do have a high tolorance to drugs and especially benzos which I used to munch 10 to 16mg a day WITH 15+ long island ice teas with extra nips and copious amounts of weed and often LSD or shrooms till i got off, is 1mg even gonna do ******** to me?... I havnt had xanax for the whole time I was on suboxone...

1mg a few months ago wouldnt do a damn thing id always kick start my dosing at 4 to 6mg atleast after valium proved to be useless and I'd eat 30+ a night, im a pretty big dude but I really would like to keep this dose at 1mg because I am adamant I will not fall back into the abyss of the benzodiazepine prison... Not when I've come so far... I've got a hip hop career and I'm preparing to begin studying quantum and astro physics, cosmology and astronomy at university (all subjects with a great deal of passion in my perspective of life)..

I'm only 23, I've just had to leave my country due to turning my back on gang life and pushing and abusing every drug under the sun (i owe thousands to heroin and gun dealers to put it plainly).. I felt I'm too smart to continue this lifestyle and I feel terrible that my closest friends are now doctor shopping for valium and xanax because their used to me selling them bottles for cheap.. Cant say I didnt lecture them a lot though..

I'm sure I can feel this alprazalam a little at 1mg but its definatly not smashing through these withdrawals.. I just feel like 2 to 4mg would potentially ******** with my system on day 3 after I took that last 2mg sub..

I'm gonna try and sleep again... I'll come post later how I'm feeling for my own personal recorded experience..

Who thinks I should of taken more?