[oldjocy]

Is darvocet an opiate? I take them for kidney pain and I was just wondering what class of drug it is considered

[Cats Meow]

It's a synthetic opioid, roughly the strength of codeine, and fairly weak as analgesics go, even the FDA admitts they're no more effective for pain then, apap or other nsaids. They are a schedule 4 controlled substance (the lowest).
This is a good read on propoxyphene, it should be phased out soon.
http://www.citizen.org/publications/release.cfm?ID=7420

[cantrell1010]

no it is not an opioid. all it does is trigger the central nervus system in to thinking there is no pain. it has nothing to do with the opioid receptors in your body, and you will not get an endourphin rush from it like you would from vicodin/oxy. codien is synthetic but 30-60mg of codien = 1 - 5mg hydro.
and is not a sched. 3 like vicodin is. and oxy is sched 2

[Cats Meow]

I beg to differ with you Cantrell, it is in the class of opioids, look it up if you don't believe me. And yes it does bind with the opiate receptors. Also, Codeine is not synthetic. That's three strikes, you're out.

"Propoxyphene acts as a weak agonist at OP1, OP2, and OP3 opiate receptors within the central nervous system (CNS). Propoxyphene primarily affects OP3 receptors, which are coupled with G-protein receptors and function as modulators, both positive and negative, of synaptic transmission via G-proteins that activate effector proteins."
http://www.mongabay.com/health/medic.../Darvocet.html

[hellview]

its probably like tramadal/ultram/ultracet. its not considered an opiate but has similar effects, there not 100% sure on how the med works but it does

[Cats Meow]

Not considered an opiate, i.e derived from opium as morphine is for example, but both Darvocet and Tramadol are considered opioids (opiate like).

The FDA is on record saying Propoxyphene (Darvocet) is no more effective for pain then Tylenol.

[MaratsDemise]

Quit dissing my Darvocet. I keep hearing it's about to go obsolete. I keep hearing the nonsense that it kills pain no better than a Tylenol does. Who are the people who apparently need for this to be believed, and WHY? For my chronic headaches, Darvocet provides me with a pill the doctor will give me every 30 to 60 days as needed without a “harrumph” about my becoming dependent, with orders to go home and just take Tylenol. If all there is left for me is codeine, I'm going to wind up on ordinary Nsaids owing to the dependency issue, and I'm gonna HURT. Darvocet relieves pain! It behaves exactly like codeine (Tylenol 3 or 4). When I take Excedrin Migraine and my pain continues to worsen, I take Darvocet, and finally the pain recedes. GREATLY recedes.

Now for the torture test: When I was eighteen, I had my appendix removed and woke up from surgery (as ill luck would have it) in agonizing menstrual pain. I was not prone to menstrual pain, it was the surgery that did it. I cried and writhed, it hurt so much. The big efficient middle-aged black RN on duty rushed me a pill. It was a capsule, red-orange and gray. Barely 30 minutes later, I was not just pain-free, but high as a birdie. I asked the nurse, "What was that pill?" She said with a smile, "Just a hefty aspirin."

That was in 1969. Darvon compound became a widely used painkiller after that, and a highly abused substance. The development of Darvocet seems to have amiliorated the addictiveness of this painkiller without lessening effectiveness. We have the perfect moderate-to-severe pain reliever in Darvocet. You people, please, stop saying it's no more effective than an over-the-counter pain reliever, trying to drive it out of production! Whoever first said Darvocet is no better at relieving pain than ordinary Tylenol was lying. He must have had a reason, but whatever it was, it wasn't helping people find effective pain relief.

My headaches are migraines, concentrated on the right side of my head, more rarely on the left side, until they peak and fill the whole upper hemisphere of my head. They used to be unendurable, requiring codeine or Darvon along with a strong barbiturate for nausea, to put me to sleep for hours at a time, over the 3-4 days the migraine lasted. These headaches are MUCH milder nowadays, but still dreaded and still fairly regular. When nasea affects me, I add phenargan to the Darvocet I take, continuing over the now two days that the milder migraine lasts. This medication is a life-saver.

I also work with my back and suffer from the very occasional sacroiliac-going-out thing. It lands me on the couch in agony, out of commission for days if not weeks...unless I take Darvocet. I learned this by accident. Darvocet has a weird side-effect: it relaxes the back muscles, maybe all the muscles, I don’t know, but better than mucle relaxers, Darvocet CURES the agony of the sacroliliac-going-out, getting me back on my feet in a day.

Ok, here's the thing. It takes two Darvocets every 3-4 hours to alleviate the migraines from which I suffer these days. My doctor prescribes “two every 4 to 6 hours as needed for pain.” It's on the bottle.

So leave my Darvocet alone. I mean it.

[karaboo]

That's great that darvocet works for you, but the posts you're responding to are from 2007.

Hey, that was a great rant, though!

[melinda7.5]

Originally Posted by karaboo

That's great that darvocet works for you, but the posts you're responding to are from 2007.

Hey, that was a great rant, though!

Hi kara
This is the evil Melinda coming out but I think it is so funny when people do these long post and they are from years ago...sorry to the poster but it is funny...

[karaboo]

Originally Posted by melinda7.5

Hi kara
This is the evil Melinda coming out but I think it is so funny when people do these long post and they are from years ago...sorry to the poster but it is funny...

Hey Melinda =}

I cracked up when I read this -- Opee and I just had this discussion LOL. You're not evil -- or else I'm evil too, it IS funny!

[tired2]

Originally Posted by karaboo

Hey Melinda =}

I cracked up when I read this -- Opee and I just had this discussion LOL. You're not evil -- or else I'm evil too, it IS funny!

Hey Melinda and karaboo....you guys are too funny
Thanks for the laugh I needed it.
Pam

[melinda7.5]

anytime pam ...LOL

[karaboo]

Originally Posted by tired2

Hey Melinda and karaboo....you guys are too funny
Thanks for the laugh I needed it.
Pam

I got kicked out of Vegas, soooo...... I'm here all night =D

[melinda7.5]

OK Kara I have got to here about this HOW did you get kicked out of Vegas...LOL

[karaboo]

Originally Posted by melinda7.5

OK Kara I have got to here about this HOW did you get kicked out of Vegas...LOL

Well, I was there for a friend's wedding in 2005. It was my first time in Vegas as an adult and my first weekend without my kids since my divorce. After the wedding, we were all staying at the Jockey Club. Another girl and I ended up in a penthouse suite cause they had lost our reservation. Apparently it was owned by some plastic surgeon who wasn't using it that weekend. Anyway, we were partying (they had weed and I had lortab) and things got out of hand. The bride's brothers were in the jacuzzi with us & things got... um.... Messy LOL. Let's just say that half of the water in the jacuzzi ended up on the bed and floor, we'll leave it at that . So we went to the casino at the Bellagio and proceeded to get embarassingly drunk. Then some fights started, continued on the Strip, and we were told it would better if we cut our trip short and headed home. We made it to Stateline and crashed there. LOL that was just craziness, but it makes for a good addict story!

[melinda7.5]

OHHH!!! to funny you were a naughty girl...I have a few of those stories in my younger days also...thanks for sharing it made me smile....
melinda

[Opee]

LEAVE MY DARVIE'S ALONE!!!! Right on, Sister!

[Opee]

Originally Posted by MaratsDemise

Quit dissing my Darvocet. I keep hearing it's about to go obsolete. I keep hearing the nonsense that it kills pain no better than a Tylenol does. Who are the people who apparently need for this to be believed, and WHY? For my chronic headaches, Darvocet provides me with a pill the doctor will give me every 30 to 60 days as needed without a “harrumph” about my becoming dependent, with orders to go home and just take Tylenol. If all there is left for me is codeine, I'm going to wind up on ordinary Nsaids owing to the dependency issue, and I'm gonna HURT. Darvocet relieves pain! It behaves exactly like codeine (Tylenol 3 or 4). When I take Excedrin Migraine and my pain continues to worsen, I take Darvocet, and finally the pain recedes. GREATLY recedes.

Now for the torture test: When I was eighteen, I had my appendix removed and woke up from surgery (as ill luck would have it) in agonizing menstrual pain. I was not prone to menstrual pain, it was the surgery that did it. I cried and writhed, it hurt so much. The big efficient middle-aged black RN on duty rushed me a pill. It was a capsule, red-orange and gray. Barely 30 minutes later, I was not just pain-free, but high as a birdie. I asked the nurse, "What was that pill?" She said with a smile, "Just a hefty aspirin."

That was in 1969. Darvon compound became a widely used painkiller after that, and a highly abused substance. The development of Darvocet seems to have amiliorated the addictiveness of this painkiller without lessening effectiveness. We have the perfect moderate-to-severe pain reliever in Darvocet. You people, please, stop saying it's no more effective than an over-the-counter pain reliever, trying to drive it out of production! Whoever first said Darvocet is no better at relieving pain than ordinary Tylenol was lying. He must have had a reason, but whatever it was, it wasn't helping people find effective pain relief.

My headaches are migraines, concentrated on the right side of my head, more rarely on the left side, until they peak and fill the whole upper hemisphere of my head. They used to be unendurable, requiring codeine or Darvon along with a strong barbiturate for nausea, to put me to sleep for hours at a time, over the 3-4 days the migraine lasted. These headaches are MUCH milder nowadays, but still dreaded and still fairly regular. When nasea affects me, I add phenargan to the Darvocet I take, continuing over the now two days that the milder migraine lasts. This medication is a life-saver.

I also work with my back and suffer from the very occasional sacroiliac-going-out thing. It lands me on the couch in agony, out of commission for days if not weeks...unless I take Darvocet. I learned this by accident. Darvocet has a weird side-effect: it relaxes the back muscles, maybe all the muscles, I don’t know, but better than mucle relaxers, Darvocet CURES the agony of the sacroliliac-going-out, getting me back on my feet in a day.

Ok, here's the thing. It takes two Darvocets every 3-4 hours to alleviate the migraines from which I suffer these days. My doctor prescribes “two every 4 to 6 hours as needed for pain.” It's on the bottle.

So leave my Darvocet alone. I mean it.

Awesome rant! For real. I mean it. I take Darvocet, too, and I really don't even consider it a drug. It works well for me. My problem was I would take 8 at a time.

Anyway, I just had to respond to this because I JUST had a conversation with a fellow addict and we both agreed Darvocet gets a bad rap. I've been on it for years. Hell, if I have a headache I'll take 2 tonight if I have to. Anyway, rock on and keep up the good fight. Leave my damn Darvie's alone!!