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Suboxone withdrawal and pregnancy-Robert? anyone with experience?
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    madseason20 is offline New Member
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    Unhappy Suboxone withdrawal and pregnancy-Robert? anyone with experience?

    Ok so the short story is that I was prescribed pain meds for back problems and was switched to subs by a dr. I ended up leaving the dr and went through withdrawals for a month before giving up and going back to pills for a few weeks then subs from then on. That was about 2 years ago. I was up to 3 a day. The past month I got down to 2 and have been ok. Well Friday I took a pregnancy test and surprise! Baby on the way. My immediate thought was thats it no more subs but as I read more into it the withdrawals can cause a miscarriage. Now I just want to put this out there. At this point in time all that matters to me is my baby. I will go through whatever I need to in order to deliver a healthy baby. I need some help in figuring this out. My first doctors appt is the 23rd. I would prefer not to tell her bc I have heard horror stories of CPS being called plus the doctor I am going to is highly associated with my job and I'm in school to be a nurse. I don't want this to ruin my life. I didn't take any Friday took 1 sat 1 sun. Please does anyone have experience with this? I feel so lost. I know it seems weird but I never thought I could have a baby with my many health issues and I love this child. Please help.

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    So I've read most of Robert's posts and it looks like the way to go in to taper down 25% every 4 days? After reading through I went up to 1.5 bc yesterday I was really sick and don't wanna lose my baby. I know God does everything on his time and wouldn't give me more than I can handle but I'm having a very hard time with bad feelings towards myself for being in this situation in the first place and I just don't think I could live with myself if something happened to this baby because of me. I've been scouring the internet for people who have had this experience and lived through to the other side of things and have found not one. I am so scared and everytime I talk to my fiance about this we end up arguing because he thinks of me saying that I'm scared to quit too fast because I don't wanna miscarry that its me thinking of excuses not to stop. And this couldn't be further from the truth. I wish I could just stop now and go through whatever and be done with it. But I want to do this the best way possible. But I can't find any answers! I really can't talk to any doctors about this bc I am not prescribed the suboxones anymore really the only person I can talk to is my fiance which never ends up well because I feel like he thinks I'm a bad mother. I feel like a bad mother already and I just found out about this on Friday! On top of everything I'm a smoker and went to my employee health center for patches and they said they can't give me any because I'm pregnant! So I have 2 things to give up, 3 if you count coffee which is a drug for a midnighter like myself, and have no way of doing any! I know stress isn't good either but I'm so scared! I keep thinking in the back of my mind that if God led me to this that He will lead me through it but then I question myself thinking that thats naiive thinking. I really dont know if I'd ever have another chance to have a baby because both my fiance and I before our relationship were both told our chances were slim. I don't want to throw away God's miracle. Please anyone even if you don't have experience with this just let me know anyone is out there. I feel so lost.

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    Hello Madseason,

    Sorry to hear of your dilemma. First off you really need to tell your doctor about this. At least an OBGYN or a Pediatrics doctor if you have one. One way or another they will find out and you certainly do not want any complications to come up especially since you are pregnant. Also if you are thinking about your baby so much you need to do exactly just that. THINK OF THE BABY! There have been reports of neonatal withdrawal and you certainly do not want that along with other complications that may happen. You really do need to inform your doctor about this and stand strong in doing the right thing. We can not give you wrongful information that may harm you and or your baby. Not to sound harsh or anything but you and your fiancé got you into this so you need to be responsible and do the right thing and asking for help while hiding it from your medical professionals team, especially when you are taking it illegally, is not a wise thing to do. Unfortunately that is about the best we can do. Smoking should be stopped as well and anything you ingest has a good chance of affecting your baby. If it goes through your blood stream it will go through the babies. The baby shares what you share with him/her.
    Get to your doctor and be honest. I assure you this is not the first time a doctor has heard of issues like this. They are there to help you not put a nail in your coffin. The information you share with your doctor is confidential and they won’t go putting up information on a bill board for all to see. What you discuss with them stays with them and is handled accordingly which is why you sign a waiver if you wish to have them share your information even with other doctors.
    That is about the best advice I can give you. I know this is not what you want to hear but I am doing it for the sake of what is right. You do not want to have complications and they will be the ones to take care of you and your baby as your baby grows inside of you. They will be the ones to deliver your baby and see to his/her care pre and post delivery. Your care as well and trust me you do not want a last minute complication come up blind siding everyone as at that time it may be too late to do anything really helpful. You are early in your pregnancy and now is the time to take action. Do not delay. And get your fiancé off his duff and tell him he is just as responsible. Don’t let him give you that crude about “it is just your excuse to keep using”. He needs to also step up to the plate and help you get through this and negative arguments won’t help any and if anything may push you deeper into addiction. You already increased to you said 1.5 from 1 and I hope you are talking “mg” not whole tablets which can be up to 8mg each. That would not be good.
    Again my apologies for sounding harsh as that is not my intentions.
    Best wishes and let us know what happens.

    Henry

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    In most cases, it is not advisable to go through withdrawal while pregnant, not even in the 1st trimester. Henry is correct. You need to speak to your OB/GYN doc. Perhaps he can refer you to an addiction specialist who can help you taper down to a more reasonable dose. This is really not a subject we can advise you on. God Forbid we give the wrong advice. I just know many pregnant women who were maintained on sub or methadone, low dose, for the duration of their pregnancy so as not to stress the fetus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madseason20 View Post
    So I've read most of Robert's posts and it looks like the way to go in to taper down 25% every 4 days? After reading through I went up to 1.5 bc yesterday I was really sick and don't wanna lose my baby. I know God does everything on his time and wouldn't give me more than I can handle but I'm having a very hard time with bad feelings towards myself for being in this situation in the first place and I just don't think I could live with myself if something happened to this baby because of me. I've been scouring the internet for people who have had this experience and lived through to the other side of things and have found not one. I am so scared and everytime I talk to my fiance about this we end up arguing because he thinks of me saying that I'm scared to quit too fast because I don't wanna miscarry that its me thinking of excuses not to stop. And this couldn't be further from the truth. I wish I could just stop now and go through whatever and be done with it. But I want to do this the best way possible. But I can't find any answers! I really can't talk to any doctors about this bc I am not prescribed the suboxones anymore really the only person I can talk to is my fiance which never ends up well because I feel like he thinks I'm a bad mother. I feel like a bad mother already and I just found out about this on Friday! On top of everything I'm a smoker and went to my employee health center for patches and they said they can't give me any because I'm pregnant! So I have 2 things to give up, 3 if you count coffee which is a drug for a midnighter like myself, and have no way of doing any! I know stress isn't good either but I'm so scared! I keep thinking in the back of my mind that if God led me to this that He will lead me through it but then I question myself thinking that thats naiive thinking. I really dont know if I'd ever have another chance to have a baby because both my fiance and I before our relationship were both told our chances were slim. I don't want to throw away God's miracle. Please anyone even if you don't have experience with this just let me know anyone is out there. I feel so lost.

    Dear MS20,

    Your post has really touched me and I just want to tell you that you are a good person- and it's very clear that you love your baby very much. My heart goes out to you- and I wish I could give you a great big hug and tell you that everything will be ok. Sometimes you just need to hear that- don't you think?
    I believe it's true- I really think you and the baby will come through this. You believe in God- that's good- so you know that you are God's child and are loved very much. He forgives you your human mistakes (he created you- and knows you inside and out!) He will be with you while you deal with this- I know it.
    Please stop worrying and hand it over to Him. It's so important that you don't stress- ok? You know that nothing is too much for Him to handle! Your job is take care of you and that little baby inside of you. So- while turning over all the stress and worry- just very slowly start tapering down on the Sub. Do not stop the Sub and don't go down too fast. You have 7 months or so to do this. My niece got pregnant while on a massive dose of Norco and her Dr put her on a taper. She slowly tapered down and off and the baby was fine.Now- from what I've read most Drs don't want to taper pregnant women off Sub or Methadone. I'm sure they have their reasons- I do agree that you really should talk to a Dr. That being said, the problem with that is many Drs know nothing about Sub. I had major surgery last March and had to stop taking the sub 4 days before. Anyhow- I told the anesthisiologist and he had NO IDEA what Sub even was! This was at a major hospital! Of course I would rather you tell your OBGYN so they can at least look into it-i also think it will relieve your stress to be open about it.. but if you just can't make yourself do it I have to offer you something.
    The most important thing is not to stress your system.
    So- taper very slow- if I were you I would time it so that I came off the smallest dose possible in the eigth month. I would make sure that baby was as developed as possible before THINKING about stopping. Also- you don't want the baby going thru WDs so you need to get down to a tiny amount and then off. So- did I miss what amount you are on?
    If you are at 4mgs for example- stay there for a week- then go down to 3mgs for a week- then 2.5 mgs-2, 1.75, 1.5, 1.25, 1.0 and get to .5 and stay until month 7 or something- then drop to .25 and stay for two weeks. Then skip every other day for a week- then skip two days and take a dose- then skip 3 days- etc. PLEASE know I'm not a Dr- I'm just offering you what I think I would do- ok? And this was a fast calculation- and everybody is different. I know you're scared- and nobody wants to give you wrong advice- that's the only reason you haven't had a bunch of responses. I may be new to this forum- but I see that you're suffering and need someone to talk to. I don't want to steer you wrong- I repeat- knowing what I know- this would be what I would do. BUT I would also tell my Dr

    God loves you- your baby loves you.
    You can do this.
    With hope and sincerity,
    Dogluver

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    Thank you everyone for responding to me. It really helps to not feel so alone. My first doctor's appt is May 23rd and I am still going back and forth about telling her. Before I was adament against it. So who knows.
    I got a hold of my dr finally about the smoking thing and she said shed like me to try quitting on my own first. My mom and I have an all girls trip to the beach planned for next week so I'm going to try just not bringing any cigarettes with me. We leave Sunday and I have been majorly cutting down since then. It seems like anytime I light up it makes me feel horrible anyway so I think that may be God's way of helping through that. I was on this forum before when I jumped off at 24 mgs a day and went through horrible withdrawals for over a month. My sn was 2young4this. I think I am going to take this trip as a time to tell my mom about the subs bc I really feel it may help being able to talk to her about it. I know it seems weird that a 27 yr old wants her mommy but she is very religious and I feel like I need more of those types of people in my life.
    Dogluver---
    I read your post when I first signed on and you honestly made me cry. Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to write to me. I have been feeling so down on myself for being in this situation and you really lifted me up. I have been planning on just tapering very slowly down and paying close attention to how my body feels so I don't go down too fast. It is so hard not knowing anyone in this same situation. But I really have been doing my best to hand it over to God and focus on the many happy times my life is going to experience in the next coming months. I'm starting nursing school on may 25th, we have a wedding to plan for july 17th (our 5 year anniversary!), and we are finally going to be able to afford to buy a house now that I won't be spending all of my money on suboxone! I found a forum yesterday that is all about pregnancy and suboxone and I really feel like its God's way of telling me that this is going to be okay. Reading your post this morning was just another message from Him. I will be posting whenever possible to let everyone know how things are going, and I understand that many people may not respond bc they dont want to give the wrong advice. I strongly believe that its in God's plan for me to be off of subs by the time my baby is born. After reading at the other forum I can see why people stay on throughout pregnancy and than deal with NAS but that is not a route that I choose to take. Again thank you so much for posting to me. You have no clue how much you touched me.

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    Hi again- I'm so happy you're feeling better...so happy.
    You know- we've all had a pretty tough road and we're all good people. It's no good to feel like you're "bad"- and not at all helpful feeling guilty all the time- that will keep you from peace and true happiness. Omgosh- you DO have a lot of things to look forward to- so many happy moments ahead. Being pregnant will halp you whip this- so it may be a true blessing. I'm thrilled you found a forum with other girls in your situation and I think its a good idea to talk to your mom if you know she won't just make you feel guilty. Of course you want your mommy! My grandma was more like a mother (my mom was a party buddy- sick I know) to me and I miss her terribly.
    I'm also happy to know you'll consider telling your Dr

    I read what we all wrote to you and I see the beauty of hearing from different people- lots of good advice- from slightly different perspectives- all valuable for sure. I just want you not to be too hard on yourself...and you helped me feel better today too
    Keep up the good work- remember we're only as as our secrets.
    Love,
    DL

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    Hi mad....dogluver is an awesome person, isn't she?

    I wanted to just pipe in and tell you that I read your posts and I so understand your pain and worry. I am so glad you found a site with information for you...it probably WAS a direct answer to prayer. (Just as I prayed and found this site as an answer)

    And yes....a lot of people read our posts...some choose not to respond as this is a very personal place. That does not mean you are not in their thoughts and prayers, though. I'm so glad you're going to keep us abreast of how you are doing. I know you have me and dogluver's prayers and many more who read.

    We are here for you if even just to vent....and you're right. God does not give us more than we are able to bear and he also provides a way out. God does love us so much...he understands our human flaws...he loves us "in spite of" and promises to never leave us nor forsake us. Jesus said that "Blessed is he who believes without seeing"...it is called FAITH. It is the one thing we have that sets us apart from any other creature on this Earth.

    God Bless You and Your Baby We are here to help you through.

    aria
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    Hello...I am so glad to have found your post, because I am going through an almost identical issue. First and foremost, I hope you and your baby are doing well and I commend you for your honestly and love. My husband and I just found out last week that I am pregnant with our second child, but I have been taking painkillers (and often, suboxone) to treat a number of things (some, self-medicated aliments like depression). I have stopped taking these things as soon as we found out (my husband would give me maybe one vicodin or other painkiller to help somewhat), but I have been going through terrible withdrawals for the past three days, and I have been having abdominal pain and cramping since. I have an appoint with my OBGYN thursday morning, but I am also scared to tell her about the painkillers and the withdrawal, but I understand that withdrawal can be worse for the baby. I am worried that the painful abdominal cramping is not from the withdrawal, but from the fetus. Is this something I should go to a hospital for instead of waiting three days until my appointment? Thank you.

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