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Old 08-04-2007, 06:13 PM
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I am going on monday for suboxone. I have a few questions someone might be able to help me with....I have been taking 6-10 norco daily since last summer after i almost lost my foot on a car wreck....its been three days since my last pill..Is that enought time to be off of it before induction.....I feel like ******************** of course but really want to give the sub a chance to work ....to take the edge of I have been taking ultram 200mg daily....today is saturday and I go in on monday. Should I stop the ultram now.....MY withdrawls are getting worse every day...........On another subject.......My doctor I have been going to for my pain meds has been very good to me and has treated my pain with respect......I dont want to have to give my withdrawl doctor his name.....some day I may have to go back on the pain meds and I would not want to jepordize my relationship with him....does anyone think I would be required to do so........I would hate to think they approved sub for people as a way for the DEA to find out what MDs are writing to many pain scripts......Thanks in advance, Hopefull
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:41 PM
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hi
i also take 8-10 norco's/day. if you're 3 day's w/out a pill, that's awesome! but when i'm out of the norco, i ALSO take ultram, and although it doesn't substitute for the norco, it DOES help with the w/d, as far as you don't feel as bad on the ultram as you would on NOTHING. and by the way, taking ultram is only trading one addiction for another, trust me, i know. so anyways...
i also got on sub but then became pregnant and had to stop. but when i went on it, i didn't wait anywhere near 3 days to start it, and it woked fine for me. but then again, i wasn't taking any ultram at the time. you might want to go sunday without ANYTHING, if you can handle that. i know the sound of that suggestion probably makes you want to die, but trust me on this also, you'll feel much better about an hour after you take that sub on monday. of course, you're not going to feel like you do on the norco, so don't even expect that, but you're sweating and 'not feeling right' symptoms will go away. it's almost like the sub makes you feel like a normal, pill-free person. you're not high, but you're not in w/d or craving the norco, either. but i want to warn you of what i did, b/c i guess i wasn't totally sold out to the thought of getting clean yet or something...but after a few weeks on the sub, i started having these thoughts of 'i wonder if i take a quarter more of the sub, if i would feel anything better?', like, feel something euphoric. DON'T GO DOWN THAT THOUGHT AVENUE. b/c i tried it once, and it didn't work, plus it freaked me out that i was going to accidentally od or something. so anyways, as one addict to another, just be totally sold out to the thought of getting clean, for good! no thoughts about wanting to feel what you used to on the norco, etc. b/c sub isn't going to get you that. sub is your friend!

now, my sub doc NEVER asked me the name of my pain doc. that would have freaked me out, b/c i wouldn't want to give him that info either, for the exact same reasons you stated. b/c my pain doc was prescribing ALOT of norco, and i wouldn't want to put her in an uncomfortable situation and cause her to question whether she should have been prescribing that amount to me or not. and maybe deep down i wanted to keep that avenue open in case i ever ended up back in her office. but if you REALLY want to be clean, then burn all your bridges. let there be no way for you to go back to the pain doc, but not thru giving their name to the sub doc. maybe by admitting you've become dependant on the norco or something. that way they can be aware of your situation thru a good way. anyways, that's all easier said then done. but the one thing my sub doc DID ask was if i had been getting my pills off the internet (?). i thought that was interesting, not only b/c i'm not, but b/c it told me that he was used to dealing with people that HAD, so he was pretty experienced with addicts. anyways, that's the deal with how it went down for me...

i'm here if you have any more questions...
i TOTALLY KNOW HOW YOU FEEL RIGHT NOW, AND IT SUCKS!!!!
thank God you have the ultram to make you feel a LITTLE more normal, but still. if there's any way you can just stay in bed or lie on the sofa or something tomorrow and maybe sleep, just so the time will go by faster till monday when you can take that sub, then maybe try to do that. i know that how you feel right now, every minute feels like an hour. but you have a light at the end of the tunnel!!!

that's awesome that you're on your way to living w/out norco!!
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Old 08-04-2007, 07:14 PM
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Wow what a great reply .......the staying off the ultram on sunday was kinda in the plans.....I guess the thought if it makes me feel like such a wimp....I have to be honest feeling normal right now would feel as good as being high...if you know what I mean.......as far as burning bridges.....the fact of the matter is that I am still in real pain....My my doctor that has been prescribing my norco said That If he were me he would go to a pain management MD and that the would probably put me on oxy time release. That scared the hell out of me.....so I said to myself I have to stop everything and gain perspective on my pain and see where I am at......It may well be that I can learn to live with the pain......If I cant then I might have to resign myself to the fact that I might have to be pain managed the my whole life..... I hope not ....nerve damage to my foot and face is tough....Does any of that make sense..........I mean is life better on pain meds that take the pain away so that I can fucntion or live in pain and become depressed......My doctor told me this" I would never take insulin away from a diabetic" none of this is easy but I must get off everything to make a clearer decision...........thanks for the help

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Old 08-05-2007, 12:47 PM
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When I went for my induction meeting with my suboxone Dr. all I had to do was come in showing signs of w/d..Since I've been addicted for long,and know my body and the drug,I used all the way up until the day I had the appointment..I just timed the last time that I shot up knowing that by the time I had the appointment I just be starting to get sick....Oh and if you Dr. seems like a "scammer" at all(trust me there are sub Dr.s in it just for the money) then I'd just to there once and find a new Dr.....
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:50 PM
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Thanks, the dr. came recomended by another dr. friend of mine I think she is good. Wont know until I get there..feeling really bad today tempted to tale a ultram.....no matter what im still going to be in withdrawls tommorow afternoon..
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