[bellabarbara]

easy does it, but do it!!!!
goodnite sweet linda

[melinda7.5]

Hi Barbara
I just wanted to check in on you to see how your day went...
Hope you had a good one...
Talk to you soon, Melinda

[bellabarbara]

i aggravated robert
i had an on-line breakdown
i'm better now
love ya

[melinda7.5]

Originally Posted by bellabarbara

i aggravated robert
i had an on-line breakdown
i'm better now
love ya

Hi Barb
No you didnt...he was getting your attention...LOL...
If you need to have another on line break down just call on me......
your going to do just fine...
talk to you later, Melinda

[tired2]

Hi Barb...Yor fine take a few deep breaths and don't worry about what will or won't happen b/c you can only control that...you have to be calm it truely helps and stay busy .....I see you took my advice and took a walk so just find thing to do ...I painted my family room 3x b/c I didn't like it but my mind was else were and not on Subs...we all had are moments of freaking out but we learned to control them and stay calm trust me it only makes you feel worse ...so stay positive and busy....take those walks...I believe you said something about a pool so go swimming you stay cool and get exercise but most of all you mind stays focuse on the good things...I hope this helps
Pam

This is for Linda... I see you made added a name to that tortise ....I know who hehehe...that's cool I actually like it...
Pam

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by bellabarbara

i aggravated robert
i had an on-line breakdown
i'm better now
love ya

You didn't aggravate me Barbara ... really you didn't. I just get frustrated sometimes when I'm trying to help someone and it seems like it's not helping at all. I just want you to be successful. I had to say or do something to get your attention, this is SOOO important!

Do what you've got to do. Take any steps that are necessary to guarantee you will come out on top in this deal. God bless.

barb...
I have been communicating with Robert in here for a while now...if he sounds harsh or gives stern advice it is because he cares. When I was in the military there were times that I had to yell and get firm with young airmen in my unit, I didnt do that because I like to or because I hate that individual it was done to help that person, to correct a problem. While that may not be a fair comparison with your case he really wants to help you, I want him to help you too we all want to see you recover in here. I think you understand and want to get well and I know you can do it.
You can breakdown or scream all you want i did, we all did, it is part of the detox process.
I think you will make it and I wish you nothing but success....

Keep us posted.

Eric

[bellabarbara]

thanks for caring eric
i am so sure that robert is really a buddha-like teddy bear and everything he says comes from total compassion! even when i am Queen Baby!
love to you, b

I do care, this forum helped me a lot when I went through all my troubles I feel that I must pay it back 10 fold. I would love to see everyone in here recover like I did.
How is the taper routine working for you I am really curious about your progress.

Eric

Hi- This is Linda SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE. Stay at 12mg., no more, only do what you need for today and don't worry about tomorrow, keep putting one foot in front of the other and your eyes on the finish line.

[bellabarbara]

i am slow and steady at 16 until sunday........i screwed up alot on the suboxone with the migraines and vomiting. this is what i can handle today......so glad he gave me the subutex..im starting to feel stablized somewhat...going to a meeting tonite....thanks for your support..............so....................much!

I am glad to hear you are stable now I know with your determination and Roberts help you will get this horrible time in your life well behind you.

We are here to listen and support you !!
Keep us posted...

Eric

[bellabarbara]

hi m
i'm not having a breakdown today====just severe malaise....one of the vitamins i bought is making me nauseous....my car's not working....i'm stuck here with my 88 yr old mom who is borderline personality & abusive.......send me prayer please....i'm so sick & tired of being sick & tired.......love you m....thanks for listening! b

[tired2]

Hi Barb ....Sounds like you are doing better...I can't take vitamins without getting nausea's make sure you eat it will help...I would even take at bedtime.
Sorry to hear about your car...I'm with you on the sick of being sick and tired...make sure you take a walk or something so you are not stuck in all day...
Pam

[melinda7.5]

Hi Barb
I just sending some prayers your way...
I know what you mean about being sick and tired of being sick and tired...oh man...
Your getting there tho...

Sorry about your mom...just remember to tell yourself she is just old and sick so don't take it personal...
remember it's her not you...

Have a good day
I will talk to you soon, Melinda

[bellabarbara]

robert
it's going so slow for me
i do not feel stable at 16 i have some hellish periods of withdrawal and i feel like some kind of freak....i want 4 days of stability i'll write again tomorrow i am not giving up

Originally Posted by bellabarbara

robert
it's going so slow for me
i do not feel stable at 16 i have some hellish periods of withdrawal and i feel like some kind of freak....i want 4 days of stability i'll write again tomorrow i am not giving up

Hi- this is Linda and I just want you to hang in there no matter what, and please stay on schedule . Don't take any more as it won't make you feel any better. You have alot of other things going on in your life that are effecting how you feel. Post about those, maybe someone has a similar situation and could help or lend support.

barb,

It is hard to know what to say to you, in some respects we were all there. I hit a low point in my life right after I quit using vic. I know how bad the w/ds can be and the toll it takes on you and your family all I can ask is that you hang in there.
I know you have the strength to make it...someday in the future I just know you will be clean and have a nice new car to drive. Happiness will come to you just fight for it !!
Vent all you want in here we will listen.

Best wishes and prayers...keep it up...no steps back !!

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by bellabarbara

robert
it's going so slow for me
i do not feel stable at 16 i have some hellish periods of withdrawal and i feel like some kind of freak....i want 4 days of stability i'll write again tomorrow i am not giving up

Barbara ... If I was there I would give you two 6mg pieces of suboxone each day and that is all you would get. I would give you 6mg in the morning and 6mg in the afternoon. Plain and simple I would tell you to tough it out. In a few days you would get acclimated to that dose and then you would be ready to reduce again to 8mg. I know for a fact that you would be successful doing it like that.

I'm not there. I can't control what you take. You have to be strong enough to NOT take more than what you've been asked to take. I have no control over this nor does anyone else but you. If you continue to take more than what you should there is nothing I can do. You've got to get a grip on doing this or else you should be prepared to stay on RX opiates forever. It's going to be one or the other. You can't do this forever like you're doing it.

I hope you will do as I've suggested. If you don't there is nothing I can do to help you. You've got to have some self-control to be successful. Suboxone isn't a miracle, it's just a RX drug. You either take it right and benefit from it or take it wrong and it's not good for you the same as other RX meds. I'm hoping you will follow the suggestions and be successful. God bless.

[bellabarbara]

i'm not giving up
i'm in tears most of the day
i started taking l-tyrosine i thougt it made me feel better i cannot get a clear answer regading taking it with my prozac & wellbutrin.....i guess i'll let that go for now
i've never felt more like a failure
i pray i pray i pray i journal i read meditation books somewhere there is that strength i need deep inside me
i love you all
i'm not giving up
rob, i'm not christian...i was adopted jewish and my Higher Power has always leaned towards eastern hindu, etc i do love Jesus also...if you can give me a special prayer to Him, I will use it.
not giving up

[bellabarbara]

love you linda
i wish i could say i feel better
please don't stop praying

[bellabarbara]

i know you didn't give up on me
please send prayer

[Robert_325]

Barbara .... so tell me how much suboxone you've been taking each day. Are you sticking to the plan? God bless.

Originally Posted by bellabarbara

love you linda
i wish i could say i feel better
please don't stop praying

Hi Barbara aka. The Tortise
Of course I didn't give up on you and I was praying for you last night and will again in a little while. Tell me, how are you doing? I know you say you feel bad but, what are your symptoms? mental, physical or both? Are you staying on schedule? How much Suboxone are you on now? Let me and others know so maybe we could help with some advice. It's hard to when you say you wish you were better. I know everyone here is pulling for you and more than willing to help, just give some specifics. I will say a prayer for you now and please post back when you can or I will worry. Linda

[bellabarbara]

i took 4 mgs this morn.

[bellabarbara]

robert dearest
i took 4 mgs this morn.
5 mgs afternoon
3 mgs evening
i feel ok to go to sleep
God helped me do this

[bellabarbara]

hi robert
i believe i am finishing up my second day at 12 mgs. hope you're still with me even though i behaved like a lunatic junkie. i think its a good idea for me to be accountable for each day= so i am checking in nightly to this taper. thank you r, Blessings, b

[Robert_325]

I'm here and I look at the posts every day. So all you have to do is post right here and I'll see it. I couldn't agree more that you need daily accountability. This thread is it.

I hope to see you put four days together at 12 mg per day so you'll be able to reduce down to 8mg. Then you'll be taking a more reasonable dose.

Just do the next right thing. God bless.

[bellabarbara]

does anyone know if you can take l-tyrosine with prozac or wellbutrin?????????????

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by bellabarbara

does anyone know if you can take l-tyrosine with prozac or wellbutrin?????????????

Barbara .... do you honestly think that it's something to worry about? L-Tyrosine is just a supplement. We use it to help with opiate detox.

After people snort pain pills, even snort their suboxone, do you really think that it would be a "bad" thing to do after all that? People take all kinds of drugs, abuse them snort and inject them, then they wonder if it's bad to take a supplement. I wouldn't worry about it. God bless.