[worryboy]

Hi all,

Does anyone know how ice addicts perceives the world? My partner, assuming is constantly, or perhaps taking ice quite frequently, really needs help(apologies I want to keep my partner annoymous to every extend including disclosing my partner's gender). Well to my assumption I think my partner does. This person is insecure, emotionally instable and steals money. However for one thing I know that this person had a very happy nature, and can be caring, and loves me alot, and in return I love my partner too. When he trys this relationship flourishes. But when something happens my partner shuts down and become a selfless, defensive, a shut down person.

How it all started was when my partner was cheated by the ex. Since then my partner changed to become very suicidal and went into drugs. pills, coke, k and now ice. My partner told me that the reason of taking ice is to "mellow down", which I do believe, my partner doesnt seem to take reality and stress very well. When I say we care, love and willing to support my partner and says anything to encourage, my partner shuts down and gets defensive (most of the time he just shuts up).

I think I know everyone will say "break up and move on", and by reading previous threads only the addicts can fix himself up. I totally agree but is there really nothing I can do to help? What exactly is going on in my partner's mind?

Please help... thank you!

[Robert_325]

Ice is bad news. So are all the other drugs you mentioned. But ice is like in a category with only a few other drugs in my opinion. Break ups are just the result of another problem ...

This person needs some professional help if they don't stop this behavior immediately. They will lie, steal, cheat and whatever else they have to do to keep some "control" over their life, or what they perceive control to be. That is the drug working. The addict doesn't realize they continue to go down dragging down everyone around them and all of their relationships too. That includes friends, family and all they come in contact with. I know .. I have been there as have most all the others posting here.

You want to help him? Get him to stop now or get into treatment. Don't go down the tubes with him over ice. You need to insist this actoin stop immediately. N/A uses the phrase " ... jails, institutions, and death " when describing an addict's life and its inevitable outcome. Ice is serious. I would draw the line in the sand now. You can only help someone take their first step. They have to step up to the plate after that.

[mpvt]

I agree,professional help is the only way to go with a methamphetamine addiction.If your partner keeps going you will begin to see a sad decline in their personal appearance and overall health.Escuses like a last relationship or the loss of someone has made them an addict is bs and just more lies from an addict.It is a terrible thing for the addict to go through and unfortunately addiction is not just limitted to the addict.It effects all the people who know the addict and it can really hurt alot of people.
So for your own sake you need to do your best to get this person into therapy of some sort or they likely won't be around to get another chance.....Good luck to you......Dave

[worryboy]

gosh.. robert quoting from what you just said that cheating, lying etc is their form of control? That is really scary? So there is no way of talking them out?
i was searching through the net and apparently it says ice will make someone agressive. My partner doesnt display any agreesive behavior. It quite the opposite to be honest. He just bottled things up, no talk about it, sleep, hide. Which lead to the reason to my question what really goes on in ice addicts (ie my partner's) mind? If my partner doesnt open up problems cant be solved.

Yes therapy is something my partner's parents reckons is the only solution.

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by worryboy

...... cheating, lying etc ...... So there is no way of talking them out?
i was searching through the net and apparently it says ice will make someone agressive. My partner doesnt display any agreesive behavior. It quite the opposite to be honest. He just bottled things up, no talk about it, sleep, hide. Which lead to the reason to my question what really goes on in ice addicts (ie my partner's) mind? If my partner doesnt open up problems cant be solved.

I am not an ice addict nor have I ever been one. I have been around lots of speed freaks over my whole life. They will eventually go nutso ... 100% of the time eventually. I don't know when that will be for your friend. Everyone is different. I would not wait for that to happen. He needs professional help now if he will not stop now. I don't even want to know what is going through their minds and makes them tick. I don't want to be there nor do you really. Only thing I can tell you is that it's the speed. You can't put that in story form. Bottom line is you can't understand them. Another speed addict can hardly understand them. This is what we have professionals for, doctors, phsyciatrists, etc for, to work with them. He needs help if it has been for very long at all. You can't do it yourself. END OF STORY. Good luck.

[skbeany]

what goes on in an ice addicts mind can be so different for everyone. but from what i know is that you really dont think about anybody but yourself. you think your invisible that reality is something so different.you stay up for days. the first few days are great your so nice to everyone even people you dont like then when you have been up for days you change and dont really care about anything. you embarrass yourself your family and friends. it will kill every relationship with everyone around you.and you usually change the group of people you hang with when you do ice.