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    I am new here, have been reading these posts, still having a hard time how to follow by the current dates... I am posting to you Robert as your name seems to be one of the most consistant, but please anyone...... respond if you like... I need help........................ all have inspired me and I have , as of yesterday, started my journey to kick vics. Dont know if i should taper, or CT. Any advice? I don't know how to read the rx, all I know is I take ( have been to now) up to 20 ( 10/500) per day, now I've tapered to 12 per day, and like I said just starting. I have both shoulders that one day will need complete replacement, but I have had it with the vics, I hate the anticipation, the counting, and to be honest, I think I take them more just because I'm so use to it now. at the moment I feel ok..... Not sick, just tired all the time, desperate, scared. I want OFF !! Help?

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    Hi Gigi,

    Robert has not been around much for the past couple of weeks and i'm not when he will see this. There are others here that are more than willing and capable to help and support you through this.

    Could you please provide your history with vics and any other pain Rx to date? dosage and timeline is a good start.

    Relax, take some deep consistent breaths, and smile!

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    HI nomoMOMO... Thank you so much for answering my plea....I was wondering if I was doing this right.. Still not even sure I will find this to get back to it...LOL... Well, as for my history, it started with my shoulder, such pain, went to a specialist, he told me both rotator cups were in real bad shape, I guess from missuse, and or artheritus..... They put me on vicodin right off ( about 5 years ago now) started on ( i think 3/375) 1 to 2 every six hours. they upped that dose after maybe a year as it just wasn't working. So, up to now I have been on the (10/500) same amount per day.... 1 to 2 every 6 hours . ( Of course that didn't last, I got , like I mentioned, up to 20 a day. Not always that much, never more, but mosty 15 to 20 per day. I am now on day 2, cut down to 3vics, every 6 hours, then I did as someone here suggested... time off 15 minutes, ask myself, do I need them now"? Then I go till the answer is either, I need them, or , I want them. But, I am honestly at NO MORE than 12 a day, ... This is my attempt at my own tapering... Not sure if it's a good way to go, but I feel ok. When it gets close to the "little blue pill time", I start to feel jittery, and a little nervous. Might very well be emotional as well as the pain in my shoulders. But like I said, I have HAD it with them, as I know it has become more I WANT them... I don't want this to go on any more. I will find a better ( hopefully) way to control the pain, but I am just SO TIRED of relying on these pills for whatever the reason... They have me, and I want OUT!! I do have a heart condition, controlled very well with Cartia xt..... I have HBP, also controlled well.... I have Gerd, blech, so that is also controlled... I am ok with all of this, it is the Vics I just do not want to continue depending on... I am 58, I could lose about 10 pounds, so otherwise I'm ok.. I am just so tired of thinking about the vics all day, all the time. They have taken over my brain as I just count the hours to my next dose, ya know? Ok I guess that's my story , very summerized.. Thank you so much for reading. I will look for your responce, ( I hope I can find it) I've just book marked this page so I guess I will be able to. LOL Bless you....

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    ps, for some reason it is showing i am off line..im not ..im here...LOL....

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    Hi Gigi, I can't give you any advice on tapering but I want to support you and let you know that you are not alone. I am in recovery from a serious opioid addiction and just got clean this past month. I was not using for chronic pain but because they "made me feel better". Got in over my head real quick. I will pray for you tonight and it's going to be ok Melissa

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    Hello Melissa,
    Thank you so much for caring. I had no idea the other night when I accidentally found this site, that anything would come of it. I was simply surfing for info in withdrawals from getting off vics on my own, So I just found this forum where I stayed up literally all night reading countless threads with all kinds of people, with very similar problems /stories as I.. I didn't feel alone, so I put on my gloves and hit the keys attempting to reach out for help, guidance, and support... So thank you so very much for doing just that. I will keep on coming back. I wish you well also... bless you and yours, Gigi
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    Thanks for the info Gigi,

    1st off we don't need to go in to detail if it doesn't assist in a proper taper but do you see a cardiologist regularly? Did you tell him about your plan to taper? i'm glad to hear it is under control with the help of an Rx but with any irregularity it would make sense to keep him abreast of your plan, right? also, consider taking your time and just maintaining progress rather than being too aggressive.

    im going to take your word that you can't read the Rx :P and assume you were on 5mg for the 1st year just because they would have more than tripled your dose right away from 24mg>80. regardless, it is not the important info about your history.

    You have been on max:

    20mg/day 1 yr

    about 15 x 10mg for a couple years

    about 17 x 10mg daily for the past 2+ years

    and when did you begin to drop?

    how long at 12 x 10mg a day? 2 days?

    please correct any wrong info, the last year or so and taper info is really only important ones....then we get the facts understood and begin to discuss the real purpose of asking for help, cheer up, you will be fine. i understand exactly what you are thinking, feeling. you are not alone and there are some extremely knowledgeable and caring people that are willing to help and support you through this. i can promise you that they know more than your Dr. that thought it a good idea to just keep upping your vic dose for years w/o properly advising you on the inevitable outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiGiLee58 View Post
    HI nomoMOMO... Thank you so much for answering my plea....I was wondering if I was doing this right.. Still not even sure I will find this to get back to it I will look for your responce, ( I hope I can find it) I've just book marked this page so I guess I will be able to. LOL Bless you....
    you can always just click on your name or "my profile" tab/link to find your most recent posts/threads. your thread is in a fine forum location for what you are looking for...it has been pretty quiet very recently.

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    Hey Nomo Momo,
    Yes I see a cardiologist regularly, but not have yet told him I am tapering off my vics, as I just finally came to that decision a few days ago. I've been battling when to actually start, as I have been afraid if I went CT, i would just keel over... So, I will do as you say, get his advice on tapering, I am still feeling ok, not tired, that's odd, actually at this hour and full of energy. I think I am just happy that I am finally doing something to get off these. I hate the dependence , plus obviously I have been abusing for some time. OK, True I dont completely understand those numbers.... like I just learned today the 10 part of the 10/500 , is the mg? Yes? so, with that I was taking up to what, 20 pills. 200 mg a day? and I have just started the taper so now I am down to 12 per day so far, that's 120 mg,? is that too fast? Not fast enough? I am keeping a ledger of how I am feeling, when I take my meds, the time, all the right stuff I hope. I could eat more, never had a big appetite, and I should take multivitamins I know. What should I do other than this.... Should I stay on 12 a day for a while then taper? That's the thing, I don't know how long to stay on any particular dose, then taper down. I hope I don't sound stupid, I do feel ignorant for sure. Thanks again Momo.... I will keep posting, it sure helps to feel a hand on the other end of this struggle. I feel like I have friends that completely understand what this feels like. And not doing it alone, truly helps. It's a blessing for me to unload, and have people like yourself, to talk with. You have no idea... Thank you again... bless you... Gigi

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    ps to MOMO... thanks for the directions on how to find my threads and help... ) Tomorrow.. Day 3... feeling slightly nervous, but I'm gonna try to sleep.....Hope to catch up with you again soon...

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    pps..... the heart condition I have is not a serious one, and has been handled well for a year now with cartia xt... it's called SVT, superventriculartachacardia... whew, hope I spelled that right..... I was having panic attacks, which involved rapid heart beats, which happened fairly irregularly, meaning, not often... but when it did, I knew something was up , so had a few tests, was quickly diagnosed, and have felt so much better with no more "episodes" as I call them...Now just this last hurdle... sorry for ranting, Just can't shut down my brain..... lol.....might be nerves setting in, I get real chatty when I am scared and nervous

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    yeah so max you were doing 200mg/day, not a lot, not a little, pretty common amount around here....some would say on the low side....the crazy part is 5000mg acetaminophen

    i would stick with 12 for right now or until stable, if you are feeling good still middle-end of next week i would try to drop a little more, maybe to 10 (or 2.5 every six hours). Will you be able to speak with your cardiologist in the next week? ask him if he has any advice on the best way to taper off of the vics......ask what he thinks about suboxone or subutex and about any potential interaction(s) to be concerned about. No matter what he says or when you speak with the Dr., the tapering can only be good if steady and stable.
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    Hey MoMo, and any one who answered or is following.....
    OK... Progress report... got to my 2nd day, I miss calculated as I started this whole thing way late at night so had my days mixed up. Any way, I got to that 6th hour, time for next dose, and fell asleep. Ha! Good . I lasted 3 hours, woke up feeling a bit jittery, took my 3 vics, and now I am just gonna rest a little. Till I don't feel as jittery. It's not really bad , I just pray it does't get real bad. Tapering slowly like you said. AND WOW< I was shocked at how much acitametaphin I've been taking with all that vicodin. Thank goodness my liver is still in good shape, as I have complete bloodwork once or twice a year, because of the SVT, and blood pressure, and just to keep on top of my health. Sounds hipocritical huh, that I do care about my overall health, yet I abuse my self with vics. Well, all I know is I am on the road to recovery as far as being addicted to these darn things. I HATE just having my "next dose" on my mind, all day long from one dose to the next, and obviously that "one or two inbetween".... Well, I'm gonna stay the course till mid/end of next week on 12 as you suggested Momo, I cannot thank you enough for being on the other side of this with me. Not so scary this way.... I have no one here that would really understand. Stay in touch, as will I, bless you and yours, Gigi

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    oh, meant to say, I will be calling my cardio first part of this week, so he will know my plan, and be on top of what I will be doing. I do see him at the end of this month anyway... it's my one year anniversary of my diagnosis os SVT, so he wants to put me back on that treadmill, check my heart.. I do the treadmill every day , not as much as I want, but I have to build up. Right now I do about a mile or 2... Works up a sweat, which is the goal so they say. Hope you are well..... Gigi You know, just unloading here helps me, I get to write out my feelings, and fears, and gladly I was heard... Thanks again..I will be back with more progress... Gigi

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    Not having the best day... not so much the pain, more I just want to take "just one" in between" how weak am I..... I know I can do this, I'm not trying to spew out excuses, but I vow to be honest, and with people I know care, but I don't personally know, is easier. Does that make sence"? You understand as we all are or have gone through this cycle of either detox, withdrawal, ct , tapering, which ever route we take, I'm not keeping anything from this board, for some reason it helps me so much just to write it down on this thread, seems to make me more culpable. I know I'm not perfect, I'm gonna keep on keeping on... My brain is all a mush, and my body is weak, at least that is what I feel right now... but one thing's for sure, I'm NOT giving up.... gonna get off this stuff...... Just staying up tp date... Gigi
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    I think you know that you will not have "best days" always while getting off a powerful drug like opiates. You also know that you dont always have "best days" while addicted to these either....hence why so many are here to get their lives back.

    Through my taper so far, i basically have 2 pretty good days then 2 not so good but i can honestly say that i feel better overall and many aspects of my life have improved in the short time i have been working at it. I have a ways to go myself but savor the good days and make sure i make the most of it and keep thinking about my future with MY LIFE back and the tremendous direct and indirect benefits of clean and healthy living.

    Don't take that "just one", i really think you are doing fine. Everything you mention is "normal" and yo will be so much happier and proud when you make progress by not giving in....i promise, it's powerful stuff. and btw, you won't know if you can "make it" unless yo give it a shot, right? Don't you want to know?

    Stick with the 3x10 4x/day until stable for about 5 days and ofc after you speak to the cardiologist. I won't suger-coat anything, you will be ok but it will require work, sometimes hard work....with work come the rewards....."success only comes before work in the dictionary".

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    Momo----- I agree, I like that quote, and I'm not afraid of the work I know I will/am doing to get off the vics. Funny what you said earlier about Drs prescribing and not really explaining to you the possibilities of addiction, pisses me off though as I'm grown up enough to have done more research, which I didn't do until I was/am hooked.. Grrrr!!! Of course I went into this mainly 1. sick and tired of being so hooked and washed OUT.. 2. No strength, no motivation, just thinking thinking thinking all day "is it time yet?" Sometimes not even waiting, as I told you.... That makes me angrier at myself because I feel like this is a "self inflicted addiction" I knew better, just allowed myself to get in way too deep. I get on my knees though, and thank God that it's not deeper than it already is. This is not all that much fun, now, only on day 2, I am hyper,( well, that's mainly my personality, just heightened---) don't really sleep all that well, ( but then again, I never did sleep an 8 hour night), starting to be a bit more jittery the closer I get to each "next dose time".... BTW< I didn't know you were early on in your taper, if I understood right. That means more to me that you are taking the time to go back and forth with me. I encourage you as well, I feel slightly hypocritical saying that as I'm an addict, but we are both on the road to recovery so, that's what is important eh? When you said --- "I have a ways to go myself but savor the good days and make sure i make the most of it and keep thinking about my future with MY LIFE back and the tremendous direct and indirect benefits of clean and healthy living.," I had tears in my eyes, I couldn't have said that better myself. I miss the old ME.. She loves to bake, garden, go out to concerts, play with my kids and grandkids, spend quality "chat time"with my hubby, Just plain get OUT OF THIS HOUSE AND LIVE MY LIFE !!! I miss just feeling Normal! I know it's in my future if I "stay the course" Your helping hand helps more than I can say.. Also, I couldn't ask for more than your UP FRONT HONESTY... No sugar coating is needed here... LOL Tell it like it is !! (ps what is OFC) Don't know all the acronyms yet. :P
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    I think i had it a little off but thank the legendary american football coach Vince Lombardi on that one. Im pretty sure Quincy Jones tried to steal it a few years ago but hey im pretty sure he's a selfish human anyway...talented in his own right but that can be equally harmful when talent meets power.

    Don't be angry at yourself, regardless of how you got here, it doesn't need to affect where you go. Robert will tell you that you/we will always be a "pickle" but some pickle's are just better than others.

    As far as my taper and history, i have only one thread created and its all in there. Robert_325 set me on my way and is a tremendous resource and simply a great person!...or "godsend" if you like that better, i know he will.

    ofc = of course

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    So glad you also are on your own true course of recovery. Nothing like sharing with fellow addicts. I'm not only a Pickle, I am IN one. LOL Well, my day 2 went ok, except for the " just one in between "boo boo. Tomorrow is another day. I do try not to get angry when I mess up, but It's my nature, I am always , and have always been ,my own worst enemy. So, just your opinion, when this is all said and done, no more vics, do you know of any other good pain meds, ( as I will definatley still be in pain with my shoulders until I get the operation, which my Dr feels I'm not really ready for, I'm not close to being incapacitated) that are NOT addictive? Actually, things like Ibuprofen never come close to helping ease the pain. Looking forward to day 3 actually. Staying positive. Spent day 2 jittery at times, watching TV, and reading here. That's a huge motivator. ! Best wishes on your journey Momo!

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    HELLO FOLKS............ coming up on day 3, feeling ok, just can't sleep at all. No nausea, I was excepting that from what I've read, but not complaining, I was wondering, am I at a post where all can see? I was reading several other posts, want to be able to just write one thread, post, whatever it's called,to everyone I am following.... Feeling pretty alone in the world, likely most people are doing what I should be, and wish I could, SLEEPING
    Anyway, feeling very wide awake, a little jittery, thirsty, but I am drinking lots of water. Feeling more pain that the last several days, guess that's to be expected, but I'm gonna stick it out. It helps to read the posts here, gives me encouragement, and keeps my mind off the pain, and the vics.

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    Hi, I'm Shannon and I just wanted to give you a little insight, inspiration and hope in dealing with detox from opiates. I am an on again/off again >>>>>> (and various other opiates) addict. I'm off right now, thank goodness. I would suggest to you, what I did years ago to kick a prescription opiate addiction. You're lucky that you haven't graduated to using needles, as that makes the detox 100 times worse. I recommend doing a quick run on Suboxone, short term. My doctor, at the time, did a 14-day rapid detox with me. She started me at 8mg/day for 2 days, then half of that/day (4mg) for 2 days, 2mg/day for the next 2 days, then 1mg the next day, skipped a day (suboxone has a pretty long half-life so didn't feel too terrible,) the following day I broke a tiny piece off (about 1/2 mg) and did that every other day for the next 5 days. I can't recommend this, as I am not a doctor, but it worked for me. I also can't say there wasn't any discomfort coming off of the Suboxone, but it wasn't nearly as bad as it could of been had I not used it at all. Drink TONS of water. There's a yoga position to do, that drains all of the toxins into your heart so it can pump it out quickly. Find a wall, lay in an L-position with your legs in the air flat against a wall - do that for as long as you can, every day. We carry tons of toxins in our feet and giving them a quick route to your heart, speeds up the detoxification process. I also took Maca supplements. They promote a happy mood and reduce a bit of the anxiety. It's going to be incredibly difficult to sleep, but it is of the utmost importance while detoxing, so I kept a bottle of children's liquid Benadryl by the bed and sipped it through out the night. My doc also gave me Trazadone 200mg, but I wouldn't recommend doing both at the same time. Maybe try one each night and see which works best for you. Drink Pedialyte to restore your electrolytes and keep you hydrated. And as much as it seems impossible, exercise. It will make all the difference in the world for your detox. Besides, staying hydrated, it's probably the most important thing you need to do. Even walking a couple blocks is better than nothing. And be careful of your doctor trying to keep you on Suboxone for an extended period of time - they tend to do that, for monetary reasons, obviously. You do NOT want to deal with a detox after being on it for an extended period of time. Suck on any kind of hard candy (Jolly Ranchers are great) to help with the cravings. Try to get to some AA or NA meetings, as it will help to hear some experience, strength & hope from others who have been in your position. Stay abstinent from ALL drugs, including alcohol. Anything you put in your body, will not only more than likely lead you back to active addiction, but it will CANCEL any of the progress your brain and body has made in your detox process. Good luck to you, I hope this has helped. Love&Light.
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    Oh, opps, i didn't see that you were already 3 days in to your detox. Keep up the good work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShannonLA27 View Post
    Oh, opps, i didn't see that you were already 3 days in to your detox. Keep up the good work!
    It appears you did not read anything in this thread....Gigi is not detoxing but rather just beginning to taper down on the vics....she also has a heart condition and if subs turn out to be a viable option for her, she will make that decision and work with Robert on the induction. I know you are trying to be helpful with good intentions however there is a lot of harmful info being given out around here that only counteracts the amazing and knowledgeable members that spend there personal time helping others and saving lives.

    Have a Great Day!
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    First off, Shannon, thank you so very much for caring, while it is true as Momo says, I am only on day 3 of tapering off of vicodin, alot of what you said I do. Drink lots of fluids, I exercise, I even meditate, I TRY to eat 3 squares, but mostly I'm a nibbler. Any way, I also wish you all the best in your life, I'm so sorry it got to heavy drugs, so I will keep you in my prayers to get/stay clean. The journey helps with good people on the other end as Momo has been with me since day 1. I don't think this could be going as comfortably had I not found this sight. I come here and dump quite often, as you may find if you go back and read my threads. LOL The more scared/nervous. anticipatory I get, the more I write.(DUMP) Any way, thank you so much for your advice, and care. I am going to look out for an NA meeting, just for the In My Face people to chat with, although this is pretty close to the best comfort, and advice/caring I have found.

    Good morning Momo, Had a fairly good night, I actually lasted 14 hours, ( that's more than 2wice as long as my prescribed dosage time every 6 hours) till my next dose, ( of course most of that time I was asleep. Ahhhh, sleep. I SLEPT!! That helped, and although I woke up VERY jittery in my tummy, ( I seem to always get that nervous bubble feeling, hard to explain, in my tummy, when I know it's time to take a dose, when I woke up after 9 hours, I counted down " several 15 minute increments", till I couldn't stand it..... this morning, till my stomach was at the height of nerves, and took my 3. ( Another 2 hours nodding in and out of sleep, so a total of 14 hours between doses from 9 pm last night. ) Funny that the uncomfortable feeling I get in my tummy, ( it's not nausea, it's more just very very nervous, uncomfortable, jumpy, slightly queezy, major moths, feeling) and it's less that I need it for pain., although no doubt that is there too. I just can't stand that overly nervous, "somethings in my tummy floating around feeling". I know I probably sound crazy, as I can never quite explain that feeling right! !! Anyway, so day 3, here I go.... Beautiful day out. so I'm gonna grab my daughter and go for a walk, watch some tv, do my " 3 day sink pile up of dishes" lol, and go from there... I'll be back, ofc.... Thanks again Momo. You will never know, ( or you probably do) how much having someone to bounce my progress/feelings/ nerves, off with means. Have a wonderful day.

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    Well, day 3 was ok, battled a headache most of the day, bleh, tired but not sleepy, I know that means a night of up and down, wake and sleep, off and on all night. Feeling somewhat depressed today too. Don't feel like doing much of anything. Gonna lay down, watch tv, and try to at least rest, and get rid of this headache. more later. Sort of feeling like a pity party , and that's really not me. Don't tell me that comes with the territory. Still can't seem to shut my brain down with the exception of last night. Sleep was good. I pray for more tonight, but I'm not optimistic with the way I'm feeling now. I'll be back. Probably in the wee hours just to dump here. oh well!

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    ya know? there's a veryyy special person here..
    his name is caughtagain/reid.. he was, i think, the first to say:

    "... this too, shall pass..."

    gigi.. sleep will come.. take care of you!

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    tbh, it all sounds pretty normal for dropping approx 1/3 of your opiate dose just a few days ago and i figured it would take you 5 or so to stabilize on 12/day. ofc it isn't fun but you are doing great!, i promise. stay the course and remember it didnt take a day/week/month to get here and it won't take a day/week/month to get out....but progress makes perfect!

    If it makes you feel any better i am tired and a bit irritated as well and i've been working all day......actually a good thing(work) and keeps my mind off watching the clock and my symptoms.

    be thankful for the sleep, take a walk, listen to some music, and some more music, and another walk....hey maybe you can even walk with an ipod or somthing ....worry about sleeping when its time....savor the good! don't dwell on the not so good!

    and if you only take one thing from my post......just rember......

    ....it comes with the territory

    enjoy the rest of your day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiGiLee58 View Post
    That helped, and although I woke up VERY jittery in my tummy, ( I seem to always get that nervous bubble feeling, hard to explain, in my tummy, when I know it's time to take a dose, when I woke up after 9 hours, I counted down " several 15 minute increments", till I couldn't stand it..... this morning, till my stomach was at the height of nerves, and took my 3. ( Another 2 hours nodding in and out of sleep, so a total of 14 hours between doses from 9 pm last night. ) Funny that the uncomfortable feeling I get in my tummy, ( it's not nausea, it's more just very very nervous, uncomfortable, jumpy, slightly queezy, major moths, feeling) and it's less that I need it for pain., although no doubt that is there too. I just can't stand that overly nervous, "somethings in my tummy floating around feeling". I know I probably sound crazy, as I can never quite explain that feeling right! !! Anyway, so day 3, here I go.... Beautiful day out. so I'm gonna grab my daughter and go for a walk, watch some tv, do my " 3 day sink pile up of dishes" lol, and go from there... I'll be back, ofc.... Thanks again Momo. You will never know, ( or you probably do) how much having someone to bounce my progress/feelings/ nerves, off with means. Have a wonderful day.

    oh yeah and that nervous bubble feeling, not quite nauseous, anxious indusing feeling.......i know exactly what you mean, exactly.

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    Hi GiGi - This is my first. I just got signed up last night but I saw your post and wanted to let you know I am
    new also so won't be of help on how to navigate this site. I am on fentanyl patch and lortab for pain after
    three back surgerys started in 2000. I would love to be free of the patches but don't know what I would do
    for pain. I am on 75mcg every 48 hr. and lortab 7.5-500 tab. one every 8 hrs. if needed and I really don't
    exceed lortab. I just wish I could be free of patches because I am so afraid of not having them and I even worry if something happened to our government and we could not get our meds what would we do - how
    crazy is that? I Pray you can get rid of your vics and you pray for me, Please.

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    Hi GiGi - This is my first. I just got signed up last night but I saw your post and wanted to let you know I am
    new also so won't be of help on how to navigate this site. I am on fentanyl patch and lortab for pain after
    three back surgerys started in 2000. I would love to be free of the patches but don't know what I would do
    for pain. I am on 75mcg every 48 hr. and lortab 7.5-500 tab. one every 8 hrs. if needed and I really don't
    exceed lortab. I just wish I could be free of patches because I am so afraid of not having them and I even worry if something happened to our government and we could not get our meds what would we do - how
    crazy is that? I Pray you can get rid of your vics and you pray for me, Please.

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