hello! My little brother has opened up to me, he has told me that he has been taking 1 oxycodone 30mg a day for the past month, sometimes he takes 2 but he says he rarley does. Before oxy he was taking vicoden. He wants to stop I told him I would help him , meaning "buy" whatever it is i need to buy...
Can he does this Cold Turkey? He also has a full time job.. will he be out of work? Any replies would really be appriciated!!! Thank you:

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by diordiamonds

hello! My little brother has opened up to me, he has told me that he has been taking 1 oxycodone 30mg a day for the past month, sometimes he takes 2 but he says he rarley does. Before oxy he was taking vicoden. He wants to stop I told him I would help him , meaning "buy" whatever it is i need to buy...
Can he does this Cold Turkey? He also has a full time job.. will he be out of work? Any replies would really be appriciated!!! Thank you:

Man I am happy you are helping him while he's young and the dose isn't HUGE yet, although it's high for a young person for sure. Here is a link to the Thomas Recipe. He can follow this like lots of others have and he'll feel like a new person within days. Let us know how we can help you further. Your little brother is lucky to have you. God bless.

http://www.drugs.com/forum/featured-...wal-35169.html

[TURBO TIME]

diamond

you need to listen to words of the pro's (not me) robert started me on the thomas recipe on thursday10-8 , i was taking 300 + 10 mg perc's a mo for 1 1/2yrs was not sure i had it in me to kick, but the thomas recipe has taking me 4-5 days clean it's not easy ,but it's do'able read around ! vitamins fruits exercise walking many hot baths, in just 4 days im functional and making new life plans

good reads* freedom-caughtagain-intelmetal and so many more i hope i can give back what they have given to me !in such prayers and encouragement

best wishes from someone just about thru to the other side

Thanks for being the only person to write me back, I have been checking back for hours. I have been reading allot on this site and see that you are a BIG help...Do you think he will be able to go to work? I am keeping tabs on him all throughout the day. . He also hasent taken a oxy 30mg since 6pm last night, he says he feels fine right now... He also told me he eats one pill at about 6:30pm everynight. - This isint allot but yes he is only 22.So I am guessing he will not be able to sleep tongght at all! I am worried that he will have withdrawls so bad that he could die.=(Thanks robert

TURBO TIME. --Hi thanks for your reply. He was eating Vicoden 750? then started on the ocycodone 30? What is the diffrence? Thanks

[RubyDean]

dior, he will not die from his withdrawals, so please do not worry about that.

he most likely will not sleep at all, and feel bad for a few days. his habit is relatively small and should do more than fine using the thomas recipe, or whatever you can give him.
he just has to want to do this, there is nothing you can do to stop him from using, but it sounds like he is ready to stop. all the will.

[mottam]

diamonds:
He can go c/t from this point - he will need some solid support, though.
W/d lasts ~ 7 to 10 days, with days 3 - 6 usually being the worst.

I am sorry I did not see your post earlier - I have been helping a friend go through his opiate addiction nightmare.

Post back as often as you need. Even though it may seem like people are not responding - people will. Posting, just getting it out - makes you feel better.
I know you are looking for advice now, however.
He cannot use - that is it. It will be a struggle, but many of us have done it.

He is lucky to have you - he can do this with HIS strength and your support.

Kindest Regards
mottam

The good news is you caught this habit early before he started increasing quantities and over time that would eventually start to happen. Since this is very minor only about 1 or 2 a day I would be willing to bet the withdrawls will be very minimal perhaps a day or two of jitters nothing major. Mos of us like myself had a very heavy habit 12-15 a day or more for a year or more when through hell withdrawing that probably won't be the case here. Feel free to read my story at Veteran Vicodin Addict.
Keep us posted and start the cold turkey asap and get it over with the anticipation will probably be worst than the actual in this case.

Best Wishes and Stay Strong !

AFSGTSAM aka Eric

Originally Posted by Robert_325

Man I am happy you are helping him while he's young and the dose isn't HUGE yet, although it's high for a young person for sure. Here is a link to the Thomas Recipe. He can follow this like lots of others have and he'll feel like a new person within days. Let us know how we can help you further. Your little brother is lucky to have you. God bless.

http://www.drugs.com/forum/featured-...wal-35169.html

Hi , Well I am back , I am now quite sure how to use this site? weather to "quote" or reply back what someone has written me.. I wrote you back and one more other person. Okay SO I went to the CVS and bought everything I needed that you gave me for the Thomas Recipe.. I went home. Brother came over. .. He is doing a breast Cancer walk with me on Saturday , he also has a HUGE test for work this friday coming up. . Should he keep taking them till saturday so he is not really sick? He needs to pass this exam , and is doing the breast cancer walk with his employer. I am confused on what to tell him...Again he is only taking 1 blue 30 oxy around 6:30pm .. He used to take Vicoden 750 this has been going on for like 9 months , and it has NOT been faithfully everyday. What is the diffrence between the two drugs?? is Oxy wayyyyy more powerfull? I know other people on her are much worse, but he is only 22 and really truly wants to stop. he has no pain .. just doing it for fun.And I am his angel and with this site's help we all can be. Thanks~!!

[caughtagain]

They are both opiates, however, OxyCODONE is stronger. How much Vicodin was he taking for 9 months... Either way he will not feel his best for about a week. Keep up the posting and we will guide you through this. You should be commended for sticking it out with your brother.... CA

[Robert_325]

diordiamonds ...... Vics are a schedule III narcotic and oxycodone is a schedule II narcotic, a much more serious RX drug and it's stronger than vics. You can't even get a script with a refill on schedule II medications, they have to be hand written by the dr.

I think it's great that you're committed to helping him. The one comment though that he is "ONLY taking 1 blue 30 oxy" concerns me a little. You need to realize that this is really serious. Most all of us started out taking a small amount of medication, and we ended up where we needed this place to get clean. Don't underestimate the severity of what he is doing or he won't stop.

You're his "ace in the hole" and you've got to remain focused on helping him now so he doesn't end up like so many others of us. None of began taking 30 pills a day, it's a progressive thing. He's got this chance with you helping to change his life while he is still very young.

Doing either the vics or oxys for 9 months will cause a dependency to either drug, especially the oxy. He can start this on Saturday if he HAS to do things that are too important. I just want to emphasize how critical this really is for him. You have the chance here to help him change his life for the better before his dependency becomes overwhelming.

The fact that you went and got the ingredients for the Thomas Recipe proves you are wanting to help him. I just want to really emphasize that him taking that one pill "just for fun" is not cool at all. This is a serious matter, please don't minimize it and let him see any doubt about this in your mind.

I'm here to help you any way that I can. Anything I can do to help a young person get clean is a TOP priority to me. Let me know how I can help you. I'm always available for you guys. God bless.

Originally Posted by Robert_325

diordiamonds ...... Vics are a schedule III narcotic and oxycodone is a schedule II narcotic, a much more serious RX drug and it's stronger than vics. You can't even get a script with a refill on schedule II medications, they have to be hand written by the dr.

I think it's great that you're committed to helping him. The one comment though that he is "ONLY taking 1 blue 30 oxy" concerns me a little. You need to realize that this is really serious. Most all of us started out taking a small amount of medication, and we ended up where we needed this place to get clean. Don't underestimate the severity of what he is doing or he won't stop.

You're his "ace in the hole" and you've got to remain focused on helping him now so he doesn't end up like so many others of us. None of began taking 30 pills a day, it's a progressive thing. He's got this chance with you helping to change his life while he is still very young.

Doing either the vics or oxys for 9 months will cause a dependency to either drug, especially the oxy. He can start this on Saturday if he HAS to do things that are too important. I just want to emphasize how critical this really is for him. You have the chance here to help him change his life for the better before his dependency becomes overwhelming.

The fact that you went and got the ingredients for the Thomas Recipe proves you are wanting to help him. I just want to really emphasize that him taking that one pill "just for fun" is not cool at all. This is a serious matter, please don't minimize it and let him see any doubt about this in your mind.

I'm here to help you any way that I can. Anything I can do to help a young person get clean is a TOP priority to me. Let me know how I can help you. I'm always available for you guys. God bless.

Thanks Robert. Who are you? You are so amazing. I need someone like you around all the time, you are an angel . I care about my brother so much that I will do anything for him.Yes I know I said " only one" but your right it does not matter. Okay so Saturday will be the best for him, he HAS to do this exam and walk . . He is an amazing, smart , talented person. . He says the pill gives him energy! I told him "drink a redbull?" ... I know he is ready to stop. He hates even saying the word "pill". And I also am coachinghim though that this is not fun,eventually he WILL need more to feel the way he wants and it will take over his entire life. Reading everyones story on this site, makes me realize how big of a problem this is in America. I live in Fl and I know sooooooooo many people doing this.. excpessialy oxy's.Its an epidenmic.<-Like crack or herion? wow I hope to get him thru this and let everyone jknow how little brother bobby is doing. And I want to help and coach people too. I used to eat vicoden but recrationally and man will it get addicting QUICK. I stopped with no withdrawl at all ,got married and I am a changed girl . Thanks everyone I will keep you posted. God Bless~!!!!!!!

[mottam]

diamond:
Keep us posted once Saturday hits.
However, as stated, do not let down your guard from today until Saturday.
I am and oxy addict. It progressed over time. If allowed to go unchecked, it can and will take over and eventually ruin (if not take) a life. I do not state this to scare you, just to make sure you understand that when you play in water, you are going to get wet.

You are a great sister. I am happy he has someone so loving and kind to help him. Be caring, but be strong and firm. Addiction kills. The quicker you end this the better.

At any age, it is devastating. He is young. Let's get him through this issue, so he can pursue his dreams and live the life God has laid out for him.

Best of luck.

Kindest Regards

mottam

[Robert_325]

diordiamonds ......I am nobody. I am just a very grateful person that survived my addiction, have stayed clean for years and managed to do it ultimately by finding and accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour. He made the real difference for me when I became a Christian and I simply try to give back when I'm able.

It's always been amazing to me how our so-called "friends" come and go in our lives, but people like our sisters, brothers, parents, etc will be there for us as long as we are alive. At least that's true if we allow them to help us.

I don't even know how to express the gratitude I have for my sister. Even though she was my "little sister" she never turned her back on me and was always there for me. When I was at my worst my sister was always there to either support me or kick me in the a$$ if that was what I needed at the time.

Family will allow us to break their hearts over and again, but they usually stick it out and keep coming back for more if that is what we need. That's the way it was for me at least and I realize that I was very fortunate.

TOM is absolutely correct that you're being a great sister. One day you and your brother will look back on this and your brother will always remember how his sister was there for him and helped him save his life. Take that from someone who will never forget my sister's repeated efforts to help me only because she loved me, not because of an obligation. God bless.

[ARTIST658]

Just wanted to add a little to the discussion here... there are certain "behaviors" that go along with the disease of addiction, as most of us here know. It's a disease that causes us to do things that we never thought we'd do - crossing values and boundaries we never thought we'd cross. Our disease will justify doing so.

I just wanted to mention that... it is POSSIBLE... that your brother is not being completely honest with you about how much he is using. I say that NOT because your brother is a dishonest person or wants to be deceitful, but because that is the nature of this disease. We minimize our drug use - period. We actually try to convince ourselves that "it's not that bad" - so we come to believe our own lies.

So just stay aware - this may be more of a problem than you realize. If he is "chewing" pills and has been doing that for some time, it sounds like his problem is serious. That chewing gives him all the time-released medication at once. Chances are, if he wants that big buzz from chewing, it would be awfully hard for him to resist taking another one, a little later on. Just my humble opinion.

If you see more of a withdrawal than you expect, that could be the case.

God bless,
Ruth

[TTTDogs]

Diamonds - hey just checking in to throw my support your way - what a great sister - he is lucky to have you ...........I am on DAY 6 of a cold turkey 10 year morhine / percocet addiction - feel free to read my thread - Escaping this morphine prison" I have to admit it was tough but doable - it is important to set yourselves up for success - this is kinda an equipment sport - sounds like you have all the Thomas ingredients - constant access to a hot bath and shower - planty of dry towels - prepared comfort food - clothes/shoes ready for walks exercise outdoors - for me my weakest moments were when I was idle I found that moving was key to warding off the worse symptoms - from bed to bath - to computer to a power walk outside - to bath - to computer etc., etc, etc, literally every 15 minutes I would change my location - it was exhausting - but kept me physically and mentally busy - If one is idle - you start to focis on the discomfort - and that will drive you crazy - easy to tell yourself you just cannot take anymore -
\I hope and do not believe your brothers wd will be as bad but I would listen to ARTIST (she has been HUGE in my recovery) that he amay be taking more than you think - so even if he has and the detox is harder than anticipated - know YOU CAN get thru it - I am proof and will follow your posts should you need a fresh cold turkey perspective - I have all sorts of tips - that I will share thru the process - I am here to hold your hand - and help you help you brother - The real painful option is not quitting!

Hugs, TTT

Originally Posted by TTTDogs

Diamonds - hey just checking in to throw my support your way - what a great sister - he is lucky to have you ...........I am on DAY 6 of a cold turkey 10 year morhine / percocet addiction - feel free to read my thread - Escaping this morphine prison" I have to admit it was tough but doable - it is important to set yourselves up for success - this is kinda an equipment sport - sounds like you have all the Thomas ingredients - constant access to a hot bath and shower - planty of dry towels - prepared comfort food - clothes/shoes ready for walks exercise outdoors - for me my weakest moments were when I was idle I found that moving was key to warding off the worse symptoms - from bed to bath - to computer to a power walk outside - to bath - to computer etc., etc, etc, literally every 15 minutes I would change my location - it was exhausting - but kept me physically and mentally busy - If one is idle - you start to focis on the discomfort - and that will drive you crazy - easy to tell yourself you just cannot take anymore -
\I hope and do not believe your brothers wd will be as bad but I would listen to ARTIST (she has been HUGE in my recovery) that he amay be taking more than you think - so even if he has and the detox is harder than anticipated - know YOU CAN get thru it - I am proof and will follow your posts should you need a fresh cold turkey perspective - I have all sorts of tips - that I will share thru the process - I am here to hold your hand - and help you help you brother - The real painful option is not quitting!

Hugs, TTT

Hello all, this weekend was quite interesting. My brother stayed with me and will stay with me for about the next week or so, unitl he thinks he is ready. Saturday was his last night... he woke up sunday morning, and was in a little panic. . I told him to just calm down and we went to the mall and went to lunch, then walked , watched football for the rest of the day. About 10:00pm I gave him a 0.5 zanax. He feel asleep - this morning he told me he was sweating allot last night and he woke up about 3am and could not go back to sleep -he said he eventually just woke up about 6:45am - he took a short walk ate breakfast and went to work.So tonight will be hard for him I think. . I will stay with him and make sure he does not go get more and keep a close eye on him, know these thoughts are running though his head... he said so Sunday morning when he had a little "panic"..thanks so much everyone for listening and giving me their support!! I will post everyday is progress....-If withdraw is worse than expected than I will be sure he was taking more than he was telling me... but I really do belieive him, because he told me in the first place which was the hardest thing he ever had to do -

Thanks
Jess

[mottam]

diordiamonds:
Sounds like he is experiencing what he "should" be experiencing during opiate w/ds - anxiety, sweating/chills, etc. Everyone’s experience is unique.
This is day 2 now, correct? He may/probably have a few more days of physical discomfort.
He is lucky to have you with him.

Stay strong, and definitely keep us posted on his progress.

Best of luck!

Kindest Regards
mottam

Originally Posted by mottam

diordiamonds:
Sounds like he is experiencing what he "should" be experiencing during opiate w/ds - anxiety, sweating/chills, etc. Everyone’s experience is unique.
This is day 2 now, correct? He may/probably have a few more days of physical discomfort.
He is lucky to have you with him.

Stay strong, and definitely keep us posted on his progress.

Best of luck!

Kindest Regards
mottam

Okay,he kind of felt a little anxiety last night, and not really much of an appetite. At work he said he was okay , but he was feeling a little cold all day and tired, he did not get any sleep the night before....He also just wanted to keep busy so he wouldn't think about doing any pills. We ate dinner.. He did not eat much , but he ate. Then I gave him another zanax before bed, he did not sleep much at all . But he says he feels a little better when he does wake up? that was strange to me... He says that sometimes when he would wake up he felt his chest was heavy .. and he did not feel that way... I do believe him about how much he was taking. This is early morning of day 2.... Will see how the rest of the day goes. Any advice on how to keep him positive, when he gets cravings?-
Thanks!

Originally Posted by diordiamonds

Okay,he kind of felt a little anxiety last night, and not really much of an appetite. At work he said he was okay , but he was feeling a little cold all day and tired, he did not get any sleep the night before....He also just wanted to keep busy so he wouldn't think about doing any pills. We ate dinner.. He did not eat much , but he ate. Then I gave him another zanax before bed, he did not sleep much at all . But he says he feels a little better when he does wake up? that was strange to me... He says that sometimes when he would wake up he felt his chest was heavy .. and he did not feel that way... I do believe him about how much he was taking. This is early morning of day 2.... Will see how the rest of the day goes. Any advice on how to keep him positive, when he gets cravings?-
Thanks!

I have not been on bevause my computer has been down with a Virus. Any who my brother is doing great , however is urges are still there... He explains to me that all day that's all he thinks about.. He also called someone and asked to get him some , then hurried and called back and said never mind .. he had come so far. I am worried he will relapse ..He still cant sleep that well and sweats allot when he is sleeping, he tries not to eat ativan , but as he lays in bed at night his anxiety gets so bad that he has to take one...he started to get muscle pains after day3, and could barley eat. His appetite should come back soon right, its day 8 I believe...His eating habits have not gotten better at all.......Maybe he was eating more than I though after all....=(