[-runzwithscissors-]

Hey I just wanted to know about some long term effects of taking painkillers. Ive been doing them for almost two years (I had no idea that its been that long!!)I take short breaks in between periods of usage. but lately ive noticed that when im speaking I mess up my sentances alot and I cant talk right. I have to concentrate much harder on things I am trying to say and I was wondering if this could be from taking pills for such a long time. I know Im lucky that I dont get sick when I take breaks and I should just quit while im ahead but its not that easy for me, I was clean for two days, until today and all I could think about was finding some, I felt really anxiouse and it was driving me insane not being able to find any and not being able to get my mind off of it. the thought of never doing them again makes me feel like crying. idk.. I really DO want to stop and never ever do it again but I dont know what to do or where to turn I cannot tell my family.
Thanks for your time,
Kate.

[jeannielynn]

hi runz/wscissors
i have been on pain killers for on and off 10 yr. it sounds like you are going through withdrawl,it sounds like you are at the brink, even though that you dont seem to have much prolems when you take breaks {maybe because you know that the break is only for a short time until you have more} today probably told you something ,that maybe its time to stop before it gets worse. I havent told my family either. When you are ready to stop, try weening yourself down, then hopfully off for good . but you have to want to do it for yourself.
this is why we are here is to listen and give you the support you need to get yor life back.
jeannie

[mpvt]

The longterm effects of opiates is addiction for sure.The opiate itself is actually pretty safe as far as the major orgins in the body are concerned.What you have to watch out for is the tylenol in some of the quick release pills like vic's or percocet,these can cause liver and kidney damage with prolonged use and abuse.The quicker you get off these pills the better or at least switch to a long acting painkiller like ms contin (sustained release morphine).....Dave

[-runzwithscissors-]

i have 30mg morphine pills but im scared to take them because my friend took one and was throwing up, but maybe that could be bc she doesnt take painkillers the way I do. Im worried that if I do take one it will make me sick, is it commen for peope to get sick from those morphine pills? what about people who use painkillers on a regular basis?

[mpvt]

Yes,if your opiate tolerant then you won't get sick but if you rarely do opiates then your likely going to throw up.If you want to avoid this then take a gravol with the pill and you won't get sick.....Dave

[Cats Meow]

If on a regular basis and it's way stronger then what you usually take, it'll sedate you, some people get really jacked from them too. It may make you feel too good and that may be a problem for you, it may be a feeling you'll try and chase and get yourself in trouble over.

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[-runzwithscissors-]

quote:Originally posted by mpvt

Yes,if your opiate tolerant then you won't get sick but if you rarely do opiates then your likely going to throw up.If you want to avoid this then take a gravol with the pill and you won't get sick.....Dave

[-runzwithscissors-]

So it is ok to take the morphine pill with the gravol? and u guys dont think I will get sick? I have been doing 20mgs of codiene everytime I take the pills and this is a 30mg morphine pill.. is that going to be too strong for me?

[sweetchikk05]

no I dont think that it will be too strong for you, zi think if youve been poppin pills for 2 years youll be alright

Liz ann

[Cats Meow]

Runz, morphine is 10 times stronger the codeine, so doing the math, taking one 30mg morphine pill would be equal to you taking 15 20mg codeine pills (btw tylenol #3 are 30mg codeine), and you can expect it to last for 5 hours. Obviously if you only take codeine, it's going to hit you [u]HARD</u>, plus you're on the small side. You're not going to stay awake long enough to enjoy it, so why bother? Bad idea

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[Rscprincess1]

Cripes Ive said it before and Ill say it again and again.... some people never cease to amaze me......

runz get some help...

I Donot Guarentee Any Information Provided But Will Be As Accurate As I Can.

[hemi the hedge]

hey there im sorry bout not knowing what thats like but im hooked on pot and ciggarettes and having trouble sleeping wondering if diazepam/valium will screw me up
cheers hemi

[need_help_plz]

HELLO everyone. My name is Alex.
Well to begin with, i guess i need to tell u how long ive been using. Somewhere in the range of 10 years+/-. Have been clean on 3 occasions(twice on my own, once jail detox).
Ive been on Subutex for 5 months, and started to ween off of it until i got to one 8mg pill lasting a week, so i've decided it was time. I've contacted my doctor and got a script for clonidine 0.2 mg to help with sleep and hot/cold flashes. So now its been four days since i took my last piece of buprenorhine(subutex), but i just relapsed and used heroin today(duh! i hate myself for that)
My serious question is this: im planning on NOT going back on subutex, and hoping to wheather this storm on my own. Last time ive used heroin before this was 4 month ago. And i just need to know if it is going to be REALLY TOUGH to go through WD to the point that i need to go back on Bupes( and i dont want to go through that withdrawal again, since i think it might be milder, but last longer then one dose of heroin(probably0.1 gram))
Do you think it is going to be possible to go through THIS withdrawal on my own with no Bupe help? And how long should i expect the withdrawals to last this time, since i did not have any heroin in my system by now?
thanx, Alex

PS. for the last 2 months, while tapering off, ive been taking DAILY:
1. centrum multivitamins(1 pill)
2.magnesium(2 pills)
3.potassium(2pills)
4.zinc(2pills)
5. vitamin b-6(3 times a day)

and prescription clonidine(as needed, 0.2-0.4 mg a day, for sleep)

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by need_help_plz

HELLO everyone. My name is Alex.
Well to begin with, i guess i need to tell u how long ive been using. Somewhere in the range of 10 years+/-. Have been clean on 3 occasions(twice on my own, once jail detox).
Ive been on Subutex for 5 months, and started to ween off of it until i got to one 8mg pill lasting a week, so i've decided it was time. I've contacted my doctor and got a script for clonidine 0.2 mg to help with sleep and hot/cold flashes. So now its been four days since i took my last piece of buprenorhine(subutex), but i just relapsed and used heroin today(duh! i hate myself for that.)
My serious question is this: im planning on NOT going back on subutex, and hoping to wheather this storm on my own. Last time ive used heroin before this was 4 month ago. And i just need to know if it is going to be REALLY TOUGH to go through WD to the point that i need to go back on Bupes( and i dont want to go through that withdrawal again, since i think it might be milder, but last longer then one dose of heroin(probably0.1 gram))
Do you think it is going to be possible to go through THIS withdrawal on my own with no Bupe help? And how long should i expect the withdrawals to last this time, since i did not have any heroin in my system by now?
thanx, Alex

PS. for the last 2 months, while tapering off, ive been taking DAILY:
1. centrum multivitamins(1 pill)
2.magnesium(2 pills)
3.potassium(2pills)
4.zinc(2pills)
5. vitamin b-6(3 times a day)

and prescription clonidine(as needed, 0.2-0.4 mg a day, for sleep)

Alex ..... you didn't give me all this info on your other thread. You don't need magnesium for an opiate detox as that will act as a laxative. You'll be better off doing this like I'm talking with you about on the other thread and leave those POINTS ALONE!!! Not judging you, just trying to help! God bless.

[need_help_plz]

Originally Posted by Robert_325

Alex ..... you didn't give me all this info on your other thread. You don't need magnesium for an opiate detox as that will act as a laxative. You'll be better off doing this like I'm talking with you about on the other thread and leave those POINTS ALONE!!! Not judging you, just trying to help! God bless.

Its just that i had really bad, all body cramps in the past, especially after serious exertion, and even then, i still get them, for instance after only working 3-4 hours with my hands, such as twisting on a wire nuts on electrical wires i would start getting bad cramps in my hands, and thats a no no when working with live power, so magnesium and potassium helped a lot since i started taking them. Althouh not sure if its potassium OR magnesium that helped more, but im not taking chances, and i do not feel any laxative like effects, so....why not

[Robert_325]

I think it's likely the Potassium that is helping you but if you want to take the Magnesium and don't have any adverse side effects that is your call. Along with the vitamin B-6 add some L-Tyrosine as that will also help with energy. It comes in 500mg caps and you should be fine at 1000mg at your size. If it doesn't help you as big as you are take up to 1500mg, but try the 1000mg first. Hope that helps as it surely should.

[need_help_plz]

Originally Posted by Robert_325

I think it's likely the Potassium that is helping you but if you want to take the Magnesium and don't have any adverse side effects that is your call. Along with the vitamin B-6 add some L-Tyrosine as that will also help with energy. It comes in 500mg caps and you should be fine at 1000mg at your size. If it doesn't help you as big as you are take up to 1500mg, but try the 1000mg first. Hope that helps as it surely should.

thx ill try L-Tyrosine as well, as i heard so much about this miracle amino acid for energy generation, so far, its been 5hr energy for my e-boost, but will likely to switch to L-Tyrosine as its way cheaper in the long run