[pbs8218]

Thank all of you for your prayers and support. I woke at 9am this morning and its about 3:30 this afternoon after just watching the BUCKEYES win!!

I am absolutely stunned that I feel nothing other than being tired. It's been 17 1/2 hours without, i can't wait til im talking in days instead of hours, but that's the longest ever. I am so proud of myself i could burst.

My question is, when does withdrawal start? Normally if i go a couple hours after my last dose, I'm ready to shred and flatten everyone and everything in my way. It was the first thing I thought of when I got up in the morning, I would have those pills in my mouth before I even poured something to drink. On a normal day, I would take up to 10 vics/percs a day, on occasion, a time-release morphine. I seriously could not function without taking something. How pathetic my life would be that actually cleaning the kitchen over the course of a whole day was an accomplishment that I would be proud of and brag about. What a sad state of a life I had.

But back to withdrawal, is it possible that I was so at peace and ready for this that I'll escape the horrors of withdrawal to some level? All I am is a little sore and tired. No rage, which was my biggest fear, and the first thing to start. Nothing.

The only surprise so far of the day was my husbands reaction, he too uses, but has been waiting for me to stop. All week Ive been saying, please don't antagonize me, he gets the brunt of my rage, please make sure I take ibuprofen, tylenol, etc. and first thing this morning hes been crabby and picking at me. I almost get the feeling he's disappointed that I'm not having trouble. Hes the one always running and getting what we need for the day, he's the one always rounding up money for it, I would think he would be proud and happy ive gotten to this point. It's been very hurtful and painful to see the lack of support. Thank you all, if I didn't have all of your comments, advice, chearleading, and prayers, I'd be lost. I told him how sad that I have to turn to strangers on the internet for support than my own husband sitting in my home.

But it wont get the best of me. Im doing this for me. with or without him. I wonder if he feels that he cant control me if i quit? Any comments?

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by pbs8218

Thank all of you for your prayers and support. I woke at 9am this morning and its about 3:30 this afternoon after just watching the BUCKEYES win!!

I am absolutely stunned that I feel nothing other than being tired. It's been 17 1/2 hours without, i can't wait til im talking in days instead of hours, but that's the longest ever. I am so proud of myself i could burst.

My question is, when does withdrawal start? Normally if i go a couple hours after my last dose, I'm ready to shred and flatten everyone and everything in my way. It was the first thing I thought of when I got up in the morning, I would have those pills in my mouth before I even poured something to drink. On a normal day, I would take up to 10 vics/percs a day, on occasion, a time-release morphine. I seriously could not function without taking something. How pathetic my life would be that actually cleaning the kitchen over the course of a whole day was an accomplishment that I would be proud of and brag about. What a sad state of a life I had.

But back to withdrawal, is it possible that I was so at peace and ready for this that I'll escape the horrors of withdrawal to some level? All I am is a little sore and tired. No rage, which was my biggest fear, and the first thing to start. Nothing.

The only surprise so far of the day was my husbands reaction, he too uses, but has been waiting for me to stop. All week Ive been saying, please don't antagonize me, he gets the brunt of my rage, please make sure I take ibuprofen, tylenol, etc. and first thing this morning hes been crabby and picking at me. I almost get the feeling he's disappointed that I'm not having trouble. Hes the one always running and getting what we need for the day, he's the one always rounding up money for it, I would think he would be proud and happy ive gotten to this point. It's been very hurtful and painful to see the lack of support. Thank you all, if I didn't have all of your comments, advice, chearleading, and prayers, I'd be lost. I told him how sad that I have to turn to strangers on the internet for support than my own husband sitting in my home.

But it wont get the best of me. Im doing this for me. with or without him. I wonder if he feels that he cant control me if i quit? Any comments?

I don't know your husband but I have seen many times over the years that when we get clean people suddenly appear to feel almost threatened by us. It's just as you say that sometimes I think they are happier deep down inside when they are able to hold us down like they did while we were using. You have to do this for yourself and not anyone else if you are going to get clean. This is for you and no one else. That is the only way that most people can be successful. God bless.

[OXYmom]

Dear PBS- I just wanted to give you some encouragement. I am on my 4th day without oxys. I used heavily for the past 2 years and on and off for about 8 years. I was up to about 120mg/day. I could not function without my pills. Or so I thought. I have been on suboxone for 4 days now and I have nothing but wonderful things to say about cleaning up my life. You are in the right place to get help. Robert has been watching out for so many on here. Just listen to him and he will help you. Good luck and God bless you. You can do this and you will be so happy with yourself. I will pray for you. I will be back on here tomorrow and I will see how you are doing. Hang in there. We will be here for you!

[pbs8218]

Originally Posted by pbs8218

Thank all of you for your prayers and support. I woke at 9am this morning and its about 3:30 this afternoon after just watching the BUCKEYES win!!

I am absolutely stunned that I feel nothing other than being tired. It's been 17 1/2 hours without, i can't wait til im talking in days instead of hours, but that's the longest ever. I am so proud of myself i could burst.

My question is, when does withdrawal start? Normally if i go a couple hours after my last dose, I'm ready to shred and flatten everyone and everything in my way. It was the first thing I thought of when I got up in the morning, I would have those pills in my mouth before I even poured something to drink. On a normal day, I would take up to 10 vics/percs a day, on occasion, a time-release morphine. I seriously could not function without taking something. How pathetic my life would be that actually cleaning the kitchen over the course of a whole day was an accomplishment that I would be proud of and brag about. What a sad state of a life I had.

But back to withdrawal, is it possible that I was so at peace and ready for this that I'll escape the horrors of withdrawal to some level? All I am is a little sore and tired. No rage, which was my biggest fear, and the first thing to start. Nothing.

The only surprise so far of the day was my husbands reaction, he too uses, but has been waiting for me to stop. All week Ive been saying, please don't antagonize me, he gets the brunt of my rage, please make sure I take ibuprofen, tylenol, etc. and first thing this morning hes been crabby and picking at me. I almost get the feeling he's disappointed that I'm not having trouble. Hes the one always running and getting what we need for the day, he's the one always rounding up money for it, I would think he would be proud and happy ive gotten to this point. It's been very hurtful and painful to see the lack of support. Thank you all, if I didn't have all of your comments, advice, chearleading, and prayers, I'd be lost. I told him how sad that I have to turn to strangers on the internet for support than my own husband sitting in my home.

But it wont get the best of me. Im doing this for me. with or without him. I wonder if he feels that he cant control me if i quit? Any comments?

robert325- i really wanted to ask you some questions. I appreciate your support. I am 19 hours clean! 19 hours! That is so huge for me. I couldnt have done without all of this forums input. I did read thomas's recipe, i have tried something similar, and it must be working. I am taking vit b-12 losenges, vit c-1000 mgs, tylenol arthritis, aleve, and a half a blue chlonopin. Im a fanatic coffee drinker so Im making sure i stay up on that because i dont want to go through caffeine withdrawal on top of the other.

my question is- why am I not having any symptoms other than mildly tired, not even the tired you feel after coming down off pills, mildly achy, but my body always aches, and i don't even feel as depressed as i have been, mentally i feel good. am i in a "newlywed" stage? is the worse to come? should i be prepared? i keep waiting, but nothing.

I used to be a pot addict, from the time i got up til bedtime, all i thought of, for 5 years. one day i said enough of this and stopped. now i know its not as serious as pills, but i never had any bad effects and never touched again. i was ready to quit this time with the same frame of mind as that, could it be that i just was ready? or am i fooling myself and the worst is yet to come. Just so you know, this is the longest i have ever been without any pills in about 8 years, give or take.

[Robert_325]

I obviously can't say for sure what you can expect with your detox. I can only share what usually happens. The supplements mentioned on the Thomas Recipe have a great history of working well along with using a benzo like it suggests(valium). Klonopin is about as close to a valium as there is considering half life and what not. Clonidine also helps as our blood pressure often spikes during opiate detox.

Quite honestly I would be shocked if you didn't feel some w/d symptoms. Using as long as you have on a daily basis I just don't see any way that you won't have w/d symptoms. Who knows? Perhaps God has decided to spare you for some reason. I guess it's possible however unlikely.

I think it would be overly optimistic to expect that you won't get hit anytime now with w/d symptoms. I don't want to be a doomsayer but that is what I would expect. I honestly hope I am wrong. Please keep us posted how this goes with you. It sure would be interesting if you got through this with no significant symptoms at all. Please keep us updated and good luck. God bless.

[pbs8218]

Originally Posted by Robert_325

I obviously can't say for sure what you can expect with your detox. I can only share what usually happens. The supplements mentioned on the Thomas Recipe have a great history of working well along with using a benzo like it suggests(valium). Klonopin is about as close to a valium as there is considering half life and what not. Clonidine also helps as our blood pressure often spikes during opiate detox.

Quite honestly I would be shocked if you didn't feel some w/d symptoms. Using as long as you have on a daily basis I just don't see any way that you won't have w/d symptoms. Who knows? Perhaps God has decided to spare you for some reason. I guess it's possible however unlikely.

I think it would be overly optimistic to expect that you won't get hit anytime now with w/d symptoms. I don't want to be a doomsayer but that is what I would expect. I honestly hope I am wrong. Please keep us posted how this goes with you. It sure would be interesting if you got through this with no significant symptoms at all. Please keep us updated and good luck. God bless.

Thank you for your quick reply. i have no one else being that my husband has decided to opt out with his support.

[Robert_325]

Sometimes its difficult to understand why our family members react the way that they do when we decide to get clean. Sometimes for those who are like me we have made promises in the past to get clean but didn't keep the promises. Not saying that applies to you but rather me. Just do your best and stay focused on doing this for you. This has to be for you or it likely won't last anyway. And please keep us updated on how the w/d symptoms appear or don't. I obviously hope you get through this with no symptoms. God bless.

[cagirl]

Hi Pbs....thats great I hope for the best for you, tomorrow might not be as easy just expect the worst then it wont be so bad.....We all hope. Everything Robert said is right.I think your husband may feel threatened and scared because you are quitting and hes not...Look out for Number 1 (thats u)....Keep Posting....Take Care!!!!!

[pbs8218]

Originally Posted by cagirl

Hi Pbs....thats great I hope for the best for you, tomorrow might not be as easy just expect the worst then it wont be so bad.....We all hope. Everything Robert said is right.I think your husband may feel threatened and scared because you are quitting and hes not...Look out for Number 1 (thats u)....Keep Posting....Take Care!!!!!

thanks for you all. Im sorry if im being a bugger. first i want to say hes not a bad person. thinking all day about it, i think maybe he didn't believe i could do, he's been there when we didn't have the money to get anything, or just couldn't find anything. I would be a psycho!! I think he's just kind of dumbfounded and waiting for the shoe to drop.

I have been preparing this all week. This is the FIRST TIME i make the choice to quit. We've been through hell, been very selfish, we lost our home to foreclosure, went bankrupt, and just recently moved into a very nice home with a very affordable rent. I have a senior "A" student in Otterbein college, a freshman "A" student at Columbus State, 15 yr old A student in high school, a 2nd grader doing wonderful, and we care for our almost 3 yr old grandson, thanks to my selfish stepdaughter. But you know, things could be worse. we could have a brood of losers, we could be homeless, but we don't. After looking at all this over the last week, I thought, god, what if i didn't use? we make good money, i don't have to work, what the h*** am I doing? My husband laughed at me getting ready for saturday morning saying I was over doing getting ready for saturday, but i needed to go through these steps as a commitment to myself.

Last night i went to bed and asked my best friends, my grandmother and grandfather who have passed to hold me up today, i know it sounds corny. But I feel it. I KNOW they are right here doing just that. I miss them so horribly at times i wish i was with them. today i realized i am with them.

[Robert_325]

See your reply here makes more sense what you are saying about your husband. Like you said he isn't a bad guy he has just seen unsuccessful attempts at this before and thinks you are overdoing it. Whatever his feelings are you stick to your guns and concentrate on doing this for yourself. You have to look at it like that if you are going to be successful. You've got a great family and lots to live for. You are acting responsibly and you should be proud of yourself.

I don't care what anyone says there is nothing corny about saying a prayer and asking those who preceded us in joining our Heavenly Father to lift us up when we need them. That is the type of attitude that has helped me get to the place I am at today. I think that attitude is great for whatever it's worth. Hang in there. God bless.

[lilbri]

My name is Brian I did the thomas recipe, I was the same as you up to about 24 hours then it started to hit me. I had valium that help the best, then I blasted myself with wide spectum of vitiams, amodium, milk thistle, b6 and l-tyrosine it helped alot. I used melatonin to help me sleep. Oh and B12

Goodluck I wish you well Brian

[pbs8218]

Originally Posted by lilbri

My name is Brian I did the thomas recipe, I was the same as you up to about 24 hours then it started to hit me. I had valium that help the best, then I blasted myself with wide spectum of vitiams, amodium, milk thistle, b6 and l-tyrosine it helped alot. I used melatonin to help me sleep. Oh and B12

Goodluck I wish you well Brian

To all of you, thank you, getting a little nuerotic there. I will post in the morning, if i can get out of bed, ha ha, and let you all know how im doing. I WILL continue what im doing, no matter what anyone says, if what im doing is working so far, thats what Im going to do.

You all are a godsend. my fear of quitting was always the unknown. How long is detox, how long withdrawals, then you hear it can be fatal withdrawing. Getting on this site gave me a plan, the desire, the information and the backing to do this, as long as i live, and i hope will be long and pill free, i will always thank you and pray for all of you and all that are to come here in the future. I will post tomorrow and let you all know my SECOND day! Yeah, no more hours! days!!!!! good night and god bless

[melinda7.5]

Originally Posted by pbs8218

Thank all of you for your prayers and support. I woke at 9am this morning and its about 3:30 this afternoon after just watching the BUCKEYES win!!

I am absolutely stunned that I feel nothing other than being tired. It's been 17 1/2 hours without, i can't wait til im talking in days instead of hours, but that's the longest ever. I am so proud of myself i could burst.

My question is, when does withdrawal start? Normally if i go a couple hours after my last dose, I'm ready to shred and flatten everyone and everything in my way. It was the first thing I thought of when I got up in the morning, I would have those pills in my mouth before I even poured something to drink. On a normal day, I would take up to 10 vics/percs a day, on occasion, a time-release morphine. I seriously could not function without taking something. How pathetic my life would be that actually cleaning the kitchen over the course of a whole day was an accomplishment that I would be proud of and brag about. What a sad state of a life I had.

But back to withdrawal, is it possible that I was so at peace and ready for this that I'll escape the horrors of withdrawal to some level? All I am is a little sore and tired. No rage, which was my biggest fear, and the first thing to start. Nothing.

The only surprise so far of the day was my husbands reaction, he too uses, but has been waiting for me to stop. All week Ive been saying, please don't antagonize me, he gets the brunt of my rage, please make sure I take ibuprofen, tylenol, etc. and first thing this morning hes been crabby and picking at me. I almost get the feeling he's disappointed that I'm not having trouble. Hes the one always running and getting what we need for the day, he's the one always rounding up money for it, I would think he would be proud and happy ive gotten to this point. It's been very hurtful and painful to see the lack of support. Thank you all, if I didn't have all of your comments, advice, chearleading, and prayers, I'd be lost. I told him how sad that I have to turn to strangers on the internet for support than my own husband sitting in my home.

But it wont get the best of me. Im doing this for me. with or without him. I wonder if he feels that he cant control me if i quit? Any comments?

Hi pbs8218
Oh, girl friend have I got stories for you.when I got clean everyone around me changed...
But lets get you through this first,You made it through your first day YEAAAA !!!!!
The days will just start to fly by..and then your going to have weeks and months behind you...
I hope you are very proud of yourself,we are really proud you...
Keep up the good work...
Talk to you soon , Melinda

[pbs8218]

Originally Posted by lilbri

My name is Brian I did the thomas recipe, I was the same as you up to about 24 hours then it started to hit me. I had valium that help the best, then I blasted myself with wide spectum of vitiams, amodium, milk thistle, b6 and l-tyrosine it helped alot. I used melatonin to help me sleep. Oh and B12

Goodluck I wish you well Brian

brian, can you explain what milk thistle and I-tyrosine is. Is it expensive? and can it be gotten at vitamin stores? Peggy

[money_chick]

I dont know if you read my reply to your other post, but the first thing I say as someone terrified of wds herself, is relax. Focus your mind. Dont let yourself sit and think, oh God its gonna get so much worse! Dont do that.

Keep yourself positive, that you can get through it and you will. I was where you are just about 2 months ago. I could quit for a few days and be miserable, but when I made the decision on 9/23 to just freakin stop, I suffered very, very, very few withdrawls. I even called Robert and asked him what was wrong with me?!

After such long term heavy use, I thought it woud be bad. It wasnt. It was my easiest withdrawl I ever had.

Just chill out, take each symptom as it comes and do NOT freak yourself out reading stories. WDS isnt fatal from opiates and you will be fine.

As for your husband, let him see you succeed a while, then judge his reaction.

Much love!

[lilbri]

Peggy
Milk thistle is anti toxin for the liver and l-tyrosine is helps in the management of stress. You can get it at the drug stores and it is not expensive. Hope that helps Brian.

[pbs8218]

Originally Posted by lilbri

Peggy
Milk thistle is anti toxin for the liver and l-tyrosine is helps in the management of stress. You can get it at the drug stores and it is not expensive. Hope that helps Brian.

Brian, what is your story? What were you on? Is the difference between b12 and b6 just the strength? How long have you been clean? How long the mental thing hang on? Im at 3 days and 18 hours and its as bad as it seems to have gotten, just the mental. Physically i seem ok. My email is PBS8218@gmail.com Anyone of you feel free to send advice please. its all i have Thank you

[lilbri]

Peggy i was taking about 3 40es of oxy's and mabey 10 perc's a day. The mental lasted about one week but physically i was down for about a mounth. but i am 53 year's old. The l-tyrosine you take with the b-6. Hope i could help you. brian