[xxJennaLovexx]

I honestly dont even know how something like this could happen to me and spiral so far out of control. I'm only 26 yrs old, never done drugs, i dont drink..i'm what you call a ''good girl''.. Anyways about 8 months ago my husband got something called darvacet for his tooth/back pain instead of the hydrocodine. I took one, and it made my head feel completely blank..i hated it! i was like ''ok, this is def not the same affect as hydro's, i dont even want them''..A few days later i tried it again..i got a slight high..*Let me mention i suffer from severe clinical depression and anxiety disorder/panic attacks* it eased it..after the next week of taking it i was like on a perma high. Nothing bothered me, i was sooo happy. My depression eased dramatically & my panic attacks dissappeared..but the high, omg..i could be happy staying in my room for hr's doing nothing. Now it's changed my life..i've ran out of Dr's to give me the pills, i lied & made excuses about losing them. I've got soooo angry begged my husband to go in for me to stop my suffering. He tried yesterday, & couldn't get them..when i woke up and asked for my ''pills'' and found out i screamed, kicked, and threw things.. my withdrawl symptoms are so damn severe..i sweat, have hot and cold flashes, restless, insomnia, restless legs, i swing my body around, i feel like i'm crawling out of my skin..please help.

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by xxJennaLovexx

I honestly dont even know how something like this could happen to me and spiral so far out of control. I'm only 26 yrs old, never done drugs, i dont drink..i'm what you call a ''good girl''.. Anyways about 8 months ago my husband got something called darvacet for his tooth/back pain instead of the hydrocodine. I took one, and it made my head feel completely blank..i hated it! i was like ''ok, this is def not the same affect as hydro's, i dont even want them''..A few days later i tried it again..i got a slight high..*Let me mention i suffer from severe clinical depression and anxiety disorder/panic attacks* it eased it..after the next week of taking it i was like on a perma high. Nothing bothered me, i was sooo happy. My depression eased dramatically & my panic attacks dissappeared..but the high, omg..i could be happy staying in my room for hr's doing nothing. Now it's changed my life..i've ran out of Dr's to give me the pills, i lied & made excuses about losing them. I've got soooo angry begged my husband to go in for me to stop my suffering. He tried yesterday, & couldn't get them..when i woke up and asked for my ''pills'' and found out i screamed, kicked, and threw things.. my withdrawl symptoms are so damn severe..i sweat, have hot and cold flashes, restless, insomnia, restless legs, i swing my body around, i feel like i'm crawling out of my skin..please help.

jenna ... you are really lucky that you are smart enough to realize you need help after such a short time of this. It took me 40 years. It takes most people a long time. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you. You may not like my suggestion, but your life is at stake. Some people have much more of an addictive personality than others. Even though you have not used drugs before, and even though this has gone on for only a short time, I believe you are prone to this behavior, should you keep this up it would be devasting for you and your family. After such a short time of abusing opiates this will not last for that long for you if you stick it out. In a weeks time you will be feeling like your old self again. The first several days will be a drag, but please hang in there. I can suggest a few things that will help. Hot baths or showers will help some with the restlessness. You can try some benedryl ... it could help you rest a little. Go for a good long walk or exercise some. It will also help your body feel better. Don't go to bed and lay there and toss and turn as that is miserable. Post on the forum, let us know how you are doing. If you find yourself running to the bathroom, take Immodium. It has an opiate base. It won't hurt your recovery but will help with trips to the bathroom. Gatorade is good for dehydration as it's full of electrolytes. Drink lots of it. Just don't take another opiate ... give yourself a little time and this will all pass. You will be glad you did. Hang in there and keep us posted. Good luck and God bless.

[xxJennaLovexx]

Originally Posted by Robert_325

jenna ... you are really lucky that you are smart enough to realize you need help after such a short time of this. It took me 40 years. It takes most people a long time. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you. You may not like my suggestion, but your life is at stake. Some people have much more of an addictive personality than others. Even though you have not used drugs before, and even though this has gone on for only a short time, I believe you are prone to this behavior, should you keep this up it would be devasting for you and your family. After such a short time of abusing opiates this will not last for that long for you if you stick it out. In a weeks time you will be feeling like your old self again. The first several days will be a drag, but please hang in there. I can suggest a few things that will help. Hot baths or showers will help some with the restlessness. You can try some benedryl ... it could help you rest a little. Go for a good long walk or exercise some. It will also help your body feel better. Don't go to bed and lay there and toss and turn as that is miserable. Post on the forum, let us know how you are doing. If you find yourself running to the bathroom, take Immodium. It has an opiate base. It won't hurt your recovery but will help with trips to the bathroom. Gatorade is good for dehydration as it's full of electrolytes. Drink lots of it. Just don't take another opiate ... give yourself a little time and this will all pass. You will be glad you did. Hang in there and keep us posted. Good luck and God bless.

Oh, i dont take offense to that at all..i am prone to addiction w/this. I think alot of it stems from my depression and the need to feel happiness, even if an artificial one. I have been taking TylenolPM and some clarinxed-d..it helped me sleep SOMEWHAT last night..Now i'm awake again and struggling..my problem is i do lay there in bed for long periods of time tossing & turning simply because i dont know what else to do with myself..i read that intense boredom is a symptom..i cant handle it! Nothing appeals to me but sleep. I am drinking alot of water tho and am lucky enough to have a massage chair..I have this deep fear that if i do stop taking opiates, the withdrawl symptoms will NEVER go away..it has to, right? i guess in the state of mind i'm in my brain isn't working normally. I'm also VERY VERY worried i already have liver damage..i OCD over it..My hubby says he doesn't think so..And sadly i want to get some more tomm.. thank you for your advice & kind words. -Jenna

[Blessed365]

Jenna,
If you don't mind me asking a few questions...How many days are you without now? Is it just the darvocets you have been taking or have you been taking anything else? Are you on anything for your depression? I too have a very addictive personality and depression problems. Take it from me, don't wait 10 years to stop this like I did. You may think that the pills made you "happy" but honey, it doesn't make it better, it doesn't make it go away...it just sweeps it under the rug for a while. You are very fortunate to have a husband that you aren't having to hide this from, he'll be there for you through the withdrawals. For the restless leg, or it sounds like what you have is restless body...I have found that Melatonin works. You can find it at Wal Mart. You can take it at night for insomnia. The tylenol pm always made it worse for me. I guess it has something to do with mixing the acetaminophen & benadryl, it just made it worse. NyQuil works good too around the clock, if you aren't having to work. No matter how bad you want to take something again, don't. It is just going to start all over again when you run out. It is so not worth it. Good luck to you. My thoughts & prayers are with you!

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by xxJennaLovexx

Oh, i dont take offense to that at all..i am prone to addiction w/this. I think alot of it stems from my depression and the need to feel happiness, even if an artificial one. I have been taking TylenolPM and some clarinxed-d..it helped me sleep SOMEWHAT last night..Now i'm awake again and struggling..my problem is i do lay there in bed for long periods of time tossing & turning simply because i dont know what else to do with myself..i read that intense boredom is a symptom..i cant handle it! Nothing appeals to me but sleep. I am drinking alot of water tho and am lucky enough to have a massage chair..I have this deep fear that if i do stop taking opiates, the withdrawl symptoms will NEVER go away..it has to, right? i guess in the state of mind i'm in my brain isn't working normally. I'm also VERY VERY worried i already have liver damage..i OCD over it..My hubby says he doesn't think so..And sadly i want to get some more tomm.. thank you for your advice & kind words. -Jenna

Jenna ... while you do not have liver damage from a short time of opiate abuse, potentially a very serious situation exists here. You are at a crossroads where life exists at one turn and hell exists at the other. PLEASE don't get more opiates tomorrow. You will have another day clean by then and will throw this out the window if you re-up and obtain more. Take a klonopin or a valium if you must, just today to get past this for your OCD problems, but don't get more opiates tomorrow. In just a matter of days you can have this all behind you and your life will be heading in the right direction again. Please give yourself a chance. God bless.

[xxJennaLovexx]

Originally Posted by Robert_325

Jenna ... while you do not have liver damage from a short time of opiate abuse, potentially a very serious situation exists here. You are at a crossroads where life exists at one turn and hell exists at the other. PLEASE don't get more opiates tomorrow. You will have another day clean by then and will throw this out the window if you re-up and obtain more. Take a klonopin or a valium if you must, just today to get past this for your OCD problems, but don't get more opiates tomorrow. In just a matter of days you can have this all behind you and your life will be heading in the right direction again. Please give yourself a chance. God bless.

i completely understand what your saying..it's getting thru it..actually i have been on Klonopin for 8 years now, and have been abusing them a bit to get thru my panic attacks and try to calm my body and mind and sleep.

[xxJennaLovexx]

Originally Posted by Blessed365

Jenna,
If you don't mind me asking a few questions...How many days are you without now? Is it just the darvocets you have been taking or have you been taking anything else? Are you on anything for your depression? I too have a very addictive personality and depression problems. Take it from me, don't wait 10 years to stop this like I did. You may think that the pills made you "happy" but honey, it doesn't make it better, it doesn't make it go away...it just sweeps it under the rug for a while. You are very fortunate to have a husband that you aren't having to hide this from, he'll be there for you through the withdrawals. For the restless leg, or it sounds like what you have is restless body...I have found that Melatonin works. You can find it at Wal Mart. You can take it at night for insomnia. The tylenol pm always made it worse for me. I guess it has something to do with mixing the acetaminophen & benadryl, it just made it worse. NyQuil works good too around the clock, if you aren't having to work. No matter how bad you want to take something again, don't. It is just going to start all over again when you run out. It is so not worth it. Good luck to you. My thoughts & prayers are with you!

Hi..This is my second day without and its HELL..I do indeed have an extremely supportive husband that Loves me so much he just doesn't know what to do anymore..But i would never have to hide anything from him, in that i am truely blessed to have him. Yes, it is just the darvocets. I have no idea why, but last summer i was on hydro's everyday and this never happened to me..i guess every opiate works differently for ppl's brains. Darvocet makes me extremely happy, albiet what i'm going thru now. I took melatonin yrs ago, my mom used to buy it..i wasn't aware they still made that? Nyquil is GREAT and i too have found that although Tylenolpm works, it tends to make my body more restless when i do wake up and i dont stay asleep as long. I am on anti-depressants and benzo's.. Celexa and klonopin. Thanks to both of you for your thoughts and prayers, their greatly appreciated.

[Blessed365]

Girl if you've got the Klonopin & you are this far into it...don't go back!! Tomorrow will be better, you always hear that after the 3 day you are home free, you still aren't going to feel 100% but it will start getting better. I know it's bad, but think about the first day & how bad it was. Do you want to relive that? Count your blessings that its Darvocet & not oc's. Congrats honey, it's almost over! I'm here if you need me! Don't stop the Celexa, no matter what & if you think it's not working go back to the dr & tell him! I tried to numb myself with pills for 10 years...10years later I still have had to deal with why I started in the first place. Depression & addiction go hand in hand, but they mix about as well as beer before liquor! YUCK! If you ever need to talk you can email me at blessed.24-7@hotmail.com Hang in there!

[vduda]

Jenna,

Robert and Blessed have given you some great advice. Darvocet (propoxyphene) actually is a derivative of Methadone in combination with acetomenophen. But it is a relatively weak opiate compared to hydrocodone. It's strange that you had no problem getting off hydrocodone and the propoxyphene has you in it's grib. No matter, I guess people react differently to meds. You are taking the right steps...so don't go backwards. In a couple of days you will feel so much better. To tell you the truth if you ever have to come off the benzos and SSRI or SSNR's it will make this opiate withdrawal look like child's play. I have an anxiety disorder and have been on benzos pretty much for 20 years. However, the last 10 yrs as I took unbelievable amounts of opiates my benzo intake got out of control. I was taking 40 to 50 mg of Xanax a day. When I went cold turkey over 9 months ago I almost died. The klonopin should really be helping, especially with the anxiety and sleep. You just need a few more days and you will feel much better...I guarantee it. But if you ever come off your antidepressants and benzo I would seek professional help because benzo withdrawals can kill you. But if you take it medicinally then there should not be a problem. But like you said you have started to abuse them. Just be careful. With God nothing is impossible. God Bless.

VJ

[xxJennaLovexx]

So my klonopins are doing absolutely nothing for me, i took 9 of them yesterday and got some sleep aid. it said to take 25mg, so thruout the day i ended up taking 100 and still couldn't sleep for more than 2 hours. This is never going to go away! Is it suppossed to get worse before it gets better? My hubby said the first 3-5 days are the hardest. I'm on my 3rd day now and suffering so much worse than the first.. why?

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by xxJennaLovexx

So my klonopins are doing absolutely nothing for me, i took 9 of them yesterday and got some sleep aid. it said to take 25mg, so thruout the day i ended up taking 100 and still couldn't sleep for more than 2 hours. This is never going to go away! Is it suppossed to get worse before it gets better? My hubby said the first 3-5 days are the hardest. I'm on my 3rd day now and suffering so much worse than the first.. why?

Jenna ... you are getting close to the turning point. Your husband is pretty right on. The third day is a really tough one. Sorry. The fourth day can still be kind of hard, for some it starts getting a little better here. The fifth day should be some better. After the fifth day you will start seeing marked improvements. You are down to having only a couple more really crummy days. Hang in there. You're so close now.

I don't like to sound corny but at this point I found myself so upset that this was when I asked Jesus Christ to help me. I mean I hit my knees and begged. It was a pretty good while back, several years ago, but when I truly humbled myself and was sincere, He took my illness away from me and stopped my W/Ds. I had been taking 30 30mg OC a day plus other stuff. It took several times of sincere prayer but finally He rescued me. My life has not been the same since. There are others on this forum who have had the same experience I promise you. I don't know your beliefs, but God will not turn His back on you. The scriptures say it simply,"Ask and you shall receive." You just have to really mean it. You have nothing to lose but your W/D symptoms and your addictions. You might go to a quiet place in your home and try. I will pray for you too. I know He answers my prayers. Hang in there. Good luck and God bless.

[me717]

Hi Jenna, I wanted to chime in...I went through w/d 2 weeks ago. I am a mother of 2 and work full time but I did it. I know it is so hard but I am now in week 2 and life is better please believe me. I have noticed you haven't posted in a few days...plz let us know how you are.

[tnjcap1]

i have been reading the posts and ya'll have some really good advice. I have been on tramadol for about 3 years from a bad car accident and tried cold turkey to get off of them. That was really bad so I gave up and kept taking them. I have switched to Vicodin ES cause it seems to help better with the pain but don't want to take it everyday. Only when I really need it. I am a mother of 2 and am wondering is it easier tapering the meds or going cold turkey. I still need to be able to function with my kids and not just lay around in bed with the withdrawls. Tramadol made me sweat, moody, my body hurt etc. I've tried a few times with the vicodin but honestly am scared. Thanks for any help

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by tnjcap1

i have been reading the posts and ya'll have some really good advice. I have been on tramadol for about 3 years from a bad car accident and tried cold turkey to get off of them. That was really bad so I gave up and kept taking them. I have switched to Vicodin ES cause it seems to help better with the pain but don't want to take it everyday. Only when I really need it. I am a mother of 2 and am wondering is it easier tapering the meds or going cold turkey. I still need to be able to function with my kids and not just lay around in bed with the withdrawls. Tramadol made me sweat, moody, my body hurt etc. I've tried a few times with the vicodin but honestly am scared. Thanks for any help

Congratulations on deciding to stop! That's a huge step forward. I can only share my personal experience with stopping cold vs. tapering. I had a very hard time with stopping. If I had the drugs I would take them ... very simple. When I finally decided it was time to change I tried numerous times to taper off them. I would decide that tomorrow was the day. But tomorrow never seemed to get here for me. I would start to pour out my meds in the morning and might be successful with that dose, but I would take the next dose earlier than I was supposed to or take more the next time or always something to compensate for the little bit I might have tapered. I even had a few successful days of tapering only to go nuts with them the next day. In short I just couldn't do it. And I think that is how most real addicts are. We have the best of intentions but it just doesn't seem to work the way we meant for it to. We try but seem to fail repeatedly.

I am not going to minimize the negative side of a cold-turkey detox that you are facing. But there are a lot of ladies here that have done this while having small children. Several will be posting shortly I promise. Ask yourself what you would do if you had a really bad case of the flu. It would be a major inconvenience, but both you and your children would survive. Think about what a HUGE benefit you will be giving to your children by stopping the drugs. Words can't even describe the obvious upside of giving them their mother back for the rest of their lives. I guess what I am saying is that it's worth whatever it costs ... no question period. Try to look at this like you have a bad case of the flu and you will be sick for a week or ten days. That will cover it for sure.

It isn't easy to do this, but the rewards are worth every minute of it. It's normal to be scared, but that is what this forum is for. Everyone posting here has done this and will help you through the tough days and nights. You will have 4-5 days of hell just as you described above ... sweating, body aches, being depressed, probably running to the bathroom, the list goes on. But there are things you can do that will help some. We will all give you suggestions as we've done this before. You just have to make the commitment to yourself to do this and then follow through. Keep focusing on what you are doing for the kids. I hope you decide to move forward with this immediately while it's in your head. You will be amazed how much support you will receive. Good luck and God bless.

[D4Ta]

Originally Posted by Robert_325

Congratulations on deciding to stop! That's a huge step forward. I can only share my personal experience with stopping cold vs. tapering. I had a very hard time with stopping. If I had the drugs I would take them ... very simple. When I finally decided it was time to change I tried numerous times to taper off them. I would decide that tomorrow was the day. But tomorrow never seemed to get here for me. I would start to pour out my meds in the morning and might be successful with that dose, but I would take the next dose earlier than I was supposed to or take more the next time or always something to compensate for the little bit I might have tapered. I even had a few successful days of tapering only to go nuts with them the next day. In short I just couldn't do it. And I think that is how most real addicts are. We have the best of intentions but it just doesn't seem to work the way we meant for it to. We try but seem to fail repeatedly.

I am not going to minimize the negative side of a cold-turkey detox that you are facing. But there are a lot of ladies here that have done this while having small children. Several will be posting shortly I promise. Ask yourself what you would do if you had a really bad case of the flu. It would be a major inconvenience, but both you and your children would survive. Think about what a HUGE benefit you will be giving to your children by stopping the drugs. Words can't even describe the obvious upside of giving them their mother back for the rest of their lives. I guess what I am saying is that it's worth whatever it costs ... no question period. Try to look at this like you have a bad case of the flu and you will be sick for a week or ten days. That will cover it for sure.

It isn't easy to do this, but the rewards are worth every minute of it. It's normal to be scared, but that is what this forum is for. Everyone posting here has done this and will help you through the tough days and nights. You will have 4-5 days of hell just as you described above ... sweating, body aches, being depressed, probably running to the bathroom, the list goes on. But there are things you can do that will help some. We will all give you suggestions as we've done this before. You just have to make the commitment to yourself to do this and then follow through. Keep focusing on what you are doing for the kids. I hope you decide to move forward with this immediately while it's in your head. You will be amazed how much support you will receive. Good luck and God bless.

Jenna, you are doing so great! - Im ob day 39 of oxycontin w/ds, and I will agree, day 3-5 were the worst for me, not sure why, but they were, and I will tell you, Robert and a few others, were right here with me, while I went thru this, and were a god send. - I quit cold turkey knowing I have pills to pickup at the pharmacy, and to my knowlege, are still avail. but Im not getting them, and going thru all that hell again, one pill is all it takes, you will do this, anything that I can help with, or suggest, plse, let me know. email if you need to, and keep posting here,, good luck!~

[hopefulgirl]

Jenna

You can do it, I am on 2 weeks now off of vicodin & i did not think i could make it through the withdrawals either, but by day 4 i was good, then on day 5 all i had was little bit of depression, u've came this far, keep going & it will get better. I never thought i'd feel normal again, but i do, just keep posting & praying & u can make it.....

[cmarino]

i wish i had the wisdom to stop before everything got totally out of contol. if it's any consolation i'm pretty much in the same position -- my first week of detox. i've done this enough times to know that no matter what you're detoxing from, it's no fun.