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Old 11-08-2008, 02:56 PM
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Question I dont understand what i read..

Ok so [Robert i am typing in normal fonts for you lol] it says that1000 mgs of aceitaminiphen is the max dose for the day, Yet the darvocets and other opiates have 650 PER PILL and it even says by Dr's recommendations to take one or 2 every 4 hours..so that would be wayyy beyond what is the max dose..i'm confused?!
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Old 11-08-2008, 03:34 PM
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Ok so [Robert i am typing in normal fonts for you lol] it says that1000 mgs of aceitaminiphen is the max dose for the day, Yet the darvocets and other opiates have 650 PER PILL and it even says by Dr's recommendations to take one or 2 every 4 hours..so that would be wayyy beyond what is the max dose..i'm confused?!


Your right about the dosing instructions and the 1000mg max for apap per dose. When drs RX pain meds with acetaminophen IF the patient will be taking two at a time they should give the patient nothing higher than 500mgs of apap. Very few drs will EVER tell a patient to take two lorcets for example which are 10/650. And the dosing instructions usually say 1 -2 AS NEEDED every 4-6 hours. That doesn't mean that you are being ordered to take two. It means that if its absolutely necessary you can.

No one would tell you that if you take two lorcets or two of anything with 650mg of apap that you will destroy your liver. It's when you do it repeatedly that it becomes a major concern. One lorcet will take care of a lot of pain if a person is not abusing them. Seldom should you require two pain pills in reality.

Thanks for remembering this old man's eyes with the font change. God bless.
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Old 11-08-2008, 03:43 PM
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I don't know where u read about 1000 being the max but on a regular bottle of 500mg tylenol it says don't take more than 8 tablets in a 24hr period
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I don't know where u read about 1000 being the max but on a regular bottle of 500mg tylenol it says don't take more than 8 tablets in a 24hr period



1000mg is the maximum dose for a single use. The bottle says a maximum of 8 in a day because 4000mg is the maximum for an entire day. God bless.
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Old 11-08-2008, 04:32 PM
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i actually read it on here.. lol. i've taken 6 today + 2 klonopins so i'm very sleepy..the thing with me is i should've explained..i have clinical depression, but more important to what i'm saying is anxiety/panic disorder and OCD..so i think just about EVERYTHING is gonna make me ''die'' or ''OD'' unless ppl repeadly reassure me..Please remember i AM trying to stop and cut down and eventually never take one again..but for the time being please dont judge me for not being able to do it right away and yes i need to ask for reassurance..i know that No ones going to encourage me to go ahead and take more..but when/if i do..please help..i am home alone and dont want to send myself into a psych trip out! And its so confusing, Robert you said 4000 is the max? Wow i take 650 per pill and was taking 13-15 a day..i really surpassed that limit. What the Dr's in the ER said was it wont kill you most likely at all..but its not good for your liver..How do so many ppl od and go way beyond the max dose by many mgs and not die?
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Old 11-08-2008, 04:55 PM
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i actually read it on here.. lol. i've taken 6 today + 2 klonopins so i'm very sleepy..the thing with me is i should've explained..i have clinical depression, but more important to what i'm saying is anxiety/panic disorder and OCD..so i think just about EVERYTHING is gonna make me ''die'' or ''OD'' unless ppl repeadly reassure me..Please remember i AM trying to stop and cut down and eventually never take one again..but for the time being please dont judge me for not being able to do it right away and yes i need to ask for reassurance..i know that No ones going to encourage me to go ahead and take more..but when/if i do..please help..i am home alone and dont want to send myself into a psych trip out! And its so confusing, Robert you said 4000 is the max? Wow i take 650 per pill and was taking 13-15 a day..i really surpassed that limit. What the Dr's in the ER said was it wont kill you most likely at all..but its not good for your liver..How do so many ppl od and go way beyond the max dose by many mgs and not die?



Jenna ... when I used to take lorcets which are 10/650 I would take at least 40 a day. Add that up ... it totals 26,000mg of acetaminophen a day. That is over six times the daily maximum. My liver counts were so high the drs were really worried about me. And I almost DID kill myself. My heart stopped, I have held a gun to my head, everything you can imagine. Some of us have bodies and organs that hold up better than others.

13-15 pills a day that you have taken is way too many. But remember that your liver is very resilient plus you are very young. Turn things around now and you will be just fine. The liver is good about making a strong comeback when we recover and stop using.

Jenna let me suggest one thing for you. I know you are trying and you get upset when you feel like anyone is judging. Remember that everyone here just about is or was a drug abuser. That is the truth. So if someone says something that may sound like they are directing judgement at you just blow it off. I don't think anyone is judging or has judged. Sometimes we just joke with each other and are a little sarcastic at times. Try to not take things people say here personally. No one intends it that way OK??? God bless.
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Jenna ... when I used to take lorcets which are 10/650 I would take at least 40 a day. Add that up ... it totals 26,000mg of acetaminophen a day. That is over six times the daily maximum. My liver counts were so high the drs were really worried about me. And I almost DID kill myself. My heart stopped, I have held a gun to my head, everything you can imagine. Some of us have bodies and organs that hold up better than others.

13-15 pills a day that you have taken is way too many. But remember that your liver is very resilient plus you are very young. Turn things around now and you will be just fine. The liver is good about making a strong comeback when we recover and stop using.

Jenna let me suggest one thing for you. I know you are trying and you get upset when you feel like anyone is judging. Remember that everyone here just about is or was a drug abuser. That is the truth. So if someone says something that may sound like they are directing judgement at you just blow it off. I don't think anyone is judging or has judged. Sometimes we just joke with each other and are a little sarcastic at times. Try to not take things people say here personally. No one intends it that way OK??? God bless.
Yeah i am a little sensitive, but very grateful i found this board and all of you..i have found myself posting more and more. =] Wow my jaw dropped when i read 26,000 mgs..i would thank god too. In one day!? What were you thinking or did you not think at the time? Also i have had ''unusual'' behaviors when i o'd like seeing a knife next to me and thinking in my head ''i think i'm dead anyways i could stab myself'' of course i wasn't dead and some part of me knew that, but it was like while i was on that bad trip i had no inhabitions..do you know what i mean?
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Old 11-09-2008, 09:21 AM
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Jenna,

When i got clean after ten years of use ( wayyyyyyy over 4000 grams EVERY DAY of tylenol) I went and had liver tests done. I was fine.

You will be too. Relax, and just dont worry about all that. You concentrate on taking as few as possible.

Usually, I tell people to go cold turkey, but I really don't think you should. I suffer froom bad GAD mysef, and I know how you are feeling. I think going cold could be very very scary for you so this is what I want you to do, ok?

Each time you take a dose, take a half less. Just a half a pill less for right now, say the next couple days. Melinda can help you with this too. She weened herself off a BIG BIG drug habit.

Right now, just do that. You need to feel comfortable. I want you to feel like youu can trust us and post all this stuff thats rattling around in your head.

It takes longer to stop that way, but right now that may be best.

Also, DO NOT SKIP YOUR KLONOPIN DOSES. Dont raise them, but DO NOT cut them back either. ok? Those you will need right now.
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Old 11-09-2008, 09:49 AM
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Jenna,

When i got clean after ten years of use ( wayyyyyyy over 4000 grams EVERY DAY of tylenol) I went and had liver tests done. I was fine.

You will be too. Relax, and just dont worry about all that. You concentrate on taking as few as possible.

Usually, I tell people to go cold turkey, but I really don't think you should. I suffer froom bad GAD mysef, and I know how you are feeling. I think going cold could be very very scary for you so this is what I want you to do, ok?

Each time you take a dose, take a half less. Just a half a pill less for right now, say the next couple days. Melinda can help you with this too. She weened herself off a BIG BIG drug habit.

Right now, just do that. You need to feel comfortable. I want you to feel like youu can trust us and post all this stuff thats rattling around in your head.

It takes longer to stop that way, but right now that may be best.

Also, DO NOT SKIP YOUR KLONOPIN DOSES. Dont raise them, but DO NOT cut them back either. ok? Those you will need right now.
Hi money_chick
That was funny!!! made me laugh...the way you said BIG BIG drug habbit.
I happy for you,I'm so glad you made it.you are a sweetie...
Talk to you soon, Melinda
P.S. It was pretty BIG...LOL
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Old 11-09-2008, 10:07 AM
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Mel-

It was BIG! LOL.... coming from me that says alot!
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