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Day 20 of my withdraw plan
I really need some help from people in here who have done this before.
I had a back injury 5 years ago, I started taking Hydrocodone and eventually went from one a day to more than 10 a day.
I finally decided that its not worth it anymore to be addicted to this stuff.
In the last 20 days, I have been using the slow withdraw method. I went from 10 a day to down to 1 pill a day. But for some reason I just can't stop with the one a day. My body hurts, I have a constant headaches, my bones hurt. I just can't make that final step. I know it's going to be painful, but for how long? Has anyone else done it this way? How do I make that final step?
Wow you did one fast taper. I think that's why you've had a tough time of it but in the end, you're at 1 pill a day. YAY. I can only imagine that you're thinking, wtf, I got my dose this low and I can't let go and fell like ????? Again, wtf??? I think (because tapering was never my strong point...I so admire those who can taper!) that you're feeling the way you do because you've tapered so quickly. The good news is that you've tapered a looonnnng way and you're almost done. I promise you, stop that pill. You've lived a nightmare of withdrawal for 20 days and if you resist that last pill you have 5 (or less) to go and you'll begin to feel a whole lot better. That last pill is keeping your mind and body demanding more.
I'm going to start a thread that is your own. You will get more responses just for you. Don't lose touch with this Forum. If it weren't for this Forum, who knows where I'd be right now. This Forum and its members became my best friends and confidant. The only place I let me be me and be totally honest, essential for getting clean and staying that way.
Watch for your thread and post there. We'll be checking on you.
That really is amazing, Hank. To have that kind of willpower. I know I didn't. I had to cold turkey from a relatively high dose of Oxy, and it was HELL! But I am 5 months clean now, and couldn't be happier. Once you make it past this final hurdle, you will understand what I mean.
You did a VERY good job with that taper by yourself. I also suggest what Denny is suggesting. Also, when you get to about 1/4 of a pill, if you still struggle, you can try the day skipping method. Where you dose 1 day, skip the next, dose again, skip 2 days, dose again, skip 3 days, etc. until it is fully out of your system. That should help minimize the withdrawals even further.
God bless, and good luck.
I have been on hydrocodone now since my knee surgery in Oct 2011. I was taking 8 tabs a day(5-325) at t first and got down to 4 tabs a day. I received a new job offer but need to take a drug test first. Spoke with ortho surgeon about going cold turkey. he said that the first 3-4 will be VERY rough. So far I have been on day 2!/2 now with the following results. Running nose, yawning all the time,teary eyes, diarrhea, nausea,headache and no appetite.
Doc said the worse will be day 3 after that the withdrawal will get better. He said MOST people will feel much better after day 5. We will see.
Taking vitamin and motrin for my knee pain now. No leg cramps.
Originally Posted by alicecooper6
Alicecooper, you are commenting on an old thread. If you want more feedback, I'd suggest starting your own, new thread.
As far as your withdrawals go, you will be just fine. I am on day 13 of cold turkey, and my intake was three times yours, for years.I felt worlds better after day 5!!!
You can do it! Remember lots of vitamins and healthy food! Try to get some exercise! All of this will help. If you need anything, I am here!
Thank YOU....hate Hydrocodone!!! Trying to get off..help!
Hi, I"m an oldie, but determined! I'm 67 yrs. young and married for 43 yrs to a man that I'm in love with everyday of my life! Lucky...you bet. Raised and educated 4 children - all with Masters Degree's and have 8 gorgeous grandchildren. I was a social worker and was doing an assessment of an abused child just recently. Afterwards, I went out of the trailer/shanty home and started down about 9 wooden steps of which all collapsed and I went straight down on my tail bone. I have been on Hydrocodone for nearly 2 years at various strengths.
Just recently on Jan. 4 2012 I was able to have through WC a spinal fusion with lumbar 4 and 5. A few days after surgery I had horrid pain while in the hospital, and nothing....nothing stopped the pain. On Jan.10th they finally checked me in a MRI and Cat-scan and found out that all the screws and titanium bars had come out as the manufacturer of the screws gave the physician the wrong ones, and I was bleeding. That's another story. I had on Jan.10th, 2012 the exact same surgery again, only this time they put in a "H" bracket with screws. My body went into "shock" after this surgery and my salt count was down to 113. I was rushed to ICU and my body tried to shut down, from high blood pressure, to low, lost potassium, had high sugar count, then low sugar count etc etc etc.
I ended up staying in hospital for 28 days. I then was transferred to a Physical Therapy Hospital as my L leg was not working right.
Needless to say, I said ALL that "stuff" to say that I had every kind of pain narcotic they have. They encouraged the Oxy's, which I did not like at all. They even OD'd me on pain meds and I was passed out. Horrible, horrible.
In the PT place they monitored me every second and they started me back on the Oxycodone again. This time a much milder does of it, but if I needed could take 2 pills (yuck!). By the time I had gotten home from PT, which I did gain the use of the L leg but its very weak and hip still is dropping somewhat (time and lots of walking), I KNEW the first thing I wanted to do was GET OFF the pain meds.and muscle relaxer Baclofen (sp?).
Baclofen was no problem as I hadn't been on it for very long. However....the HydroC was another thing. I weened down to 1 pill a day and then totally off it.
I had NO CLUE what hit me. I ached, had back spasms....and anxiety, and the worst is the horrid stomach pains and intestinal pains...the rumbling...that never stops and the running to bathroom constantly. I had such a bad runny nose, and stuffed head and headache. This is my 3rd day and it might have lessened a bit, but not that much.
My biggest question is can I take other over the counter meds? Like Tylenol X-strength? Advil? Motrin? Asperin? Excedrin? Which are best??? ALSO can I take immodium for the diarreaha or nothing at all to let it all come out? I am drinking a lot of water and ginger ale as stomach is so upset and I have absolutely NO appetite whatsoever. Its like I don't have taste buds anymore??? I ache all over, like the flu, and am dead tired as I can't sleep at night at all. Lie in bed, eyes wide open. I have NEVER had that happen to me.
I read all your posts I think, I am so sorry any of you have had to go through this as well. Congrats to all of you that have made it through. Do you think this ol lady can make it through??? I surely DO NOT EVER want to take narcotic pain meds EVER again. How long can this last before any relief????
I force myself, with the help of dear H to walk twice daily as far as I can with a rolling walker. THAT helps alot!
Help and I'm so frustrated. Suzzy B.
Hi Suzzy, you may want to start your own thread to get more responses, as this is an old one.
Wow, I'm so sorry for all that you have gone through. Since all of your medication came from your Dr., and as a result of your injuries, have you talked to your Dr. about this? All that you are describing are indeed classic withdrawel symptoms. Everyone gets different ones to varying degrees, but that's basically it. Yes, take Immodium for the stomach issues, and advil can't hurt for the aches and pains. Other than that keep drinking plenty of water and if you can try to take a walk or get in some sort of exercise everyday. It really helps with mood, gives you a little energy lift (even when you really feel like you can't do it), and it will speed everything along. Whatever kind of music you like, listen to it ALOT, it does wonders.
Not sure what dosage you were on, but the physical symptoms of withdrawel usually take about 5 days to pass, more or less. I'm on Day 5 right now myself. The very worst of the physical is over....although oddly I had more energy yesterday than I do today?? Starting to realize though that normal people have varying degrees of energy everyday, and it's not normal to be hyped up all day from pills.
From your post it sounds like you are physically dependent on the drugs, but not so much mentally...am I right about that? If so, just keep getting through each day and keep the faith that you'll start feeling better very soon. For a lot of us, that's when the mental fight really begins though.
Yes, please do take some advil for your pains. Immodium is an excellent treatment for the upset stomach. Search on this forum for the "Thomas Recipe" it will help for sure. Just make sure you take plenty of vitamins drink water and get exercise if possible. Did you mention how you will treat the pain? Are you in chronic pain currently?
Hi I'm new here and just recently decided to stop taking pain meds....I am really struggling and its only been about 36 hours....I kno this is the right thing to do because of my job and more importantly my family. I have had a lot of problems with my teeth and that has caused me to become reliant on hydrocodone mostly....I'm only 25 and unfortunately my line of work allows me to see the havoc that pain meds have on people and their families and that scares me to death but for some odd reason doesn't stop me from using them. Worst of all I find myself looking around for more pain pills in my house because my dad has a standing prescription. I am ashamed of myself and disappointed....mainly I am just so tired. I already have anxiety and insomnia so I kno this going to be rough..... please I need help any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.....
hey strugglin, im glad to see you have posted and came to the realization you have a problem. This is where you should be, you will find all kinds of support and advice. Start your own thread and it will be the best way to get you through the early withdrawls, and see your progress. Hang in there buddy, im 127 days clean and It's a whole new world, worth living.
Clean as of 5.29.2014
"Do you have another day 1 in you?"
How do I start my own thread
at the top left of the need to talk section there is blue button saying post new thread.....
Originally Posted by strugglin32
Last edited by Anonymous; 06-09-2012 at 09:22 PM.
Stugglin, don't ever be afraid to post; just name your new thread carefully. I , without thinking started a new thread: Day 3.... etc. Hope it does not continue to be "Day 3" !!! With some trepidation I started one called simply Thalia. All the posts that have gone before are easy to find.
Originally Posted by strugglin32
I will watch for your new thread! There is a lot of help here, and something you can keep as a "longtime" journal is best.
BTW, the "treasure hunt" is something I have done a number of times; at least my pockets have no lint!
All best, Thalia
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Hi. I really need some help. I had my gallbladder removed on the 6th of Aug. and for about three weeks I was taking Hydroco. I didn't know it was very addicting til I was getting very overheated and I talked to my Dr. that did the surgery and he said that I was addicted.. I stopped taking the night before I was shaking nausea and overheated badly.. I thought that it wasn't and I could get more. I thought it was from the surgery and I wasnt healed.... I am 19 yrs old and it's been 4 days since i've been off and it isn't easing up. I've read some of the post and you guys are saying on day 5 i'll be better or should... I throw up this morning and i'm tired and overheated still (badly)... I really want to sleep... so my boyfriend can also get some sleep.. Is there anything to help with the overheated? Anything at all? I'm using just a wash cloth right now... I feel really sick too.. I'm tired of this pain.. I kinda just want to take the pill so I can sleep and eat some food.. I have pretty much lost 11 lb from not eating and stuff. So if anyone can respond so I would love it... I want to feel better and sleep and maybe be able to go someplace with my boyfriend.... So plz help..
Maybe I can help someone coming off hydrocodone, I was taking 7-9 watson 540's or the M363 per day and anyone with an adiction knows what those are, if you don't then I would not say your addicted to hydrocodone. I also took the 932 perks maybe 6 a day when I ran out of hydros, or the 933 or the 512s what ever I could get for two years. I ran out of money trying to support my habit. So I said to hell with this I want my life back, I also took the op80s or 40s or the blue 15s from time to time, and my son looked at me and said I looked out of it and I needed to go to rehab. That was the realazation for me that I had a problem. So I went cold turkey and it was horrible I can't describe how bad I felt, even taking advil, tylonal and benidril and the imodium helped, but by the end of the 4th day starting my 5th day things really started feeling way better at that point I knew I could do it. I do not know if your religious but I called a pastor to talk to and I honestly believe its the devil trying to get you with these drugs. Well I knuckeled down and by the 6th day I feel almost as good as I did taking the drugs. Its hard to see hope the first two to three days of withdrawal from these drugs, but trust me it gets better and better, if your on your 1st, 2nd or third day stay with it your almost over the worst you will be over it soon. Now if your on methadone I think its much worse and I have no experience with that. But if your having a problem getting off hydros then your a fool to try methadone because if you do you will be on that for the rest of your life, because its way harder and worse to come off of.
cold turkey I encurage you to stay with it, things are going to get better I promise, its hard to see right now but I promise it gets better soon.
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Hello I'm not sure how to start my own thread so I'm tagging onto this one. I also have been taking hydrocodone for prolly 5 years recreationally. Something that started so innocently surely snow balled to taking 10 to 12 10mg a day. I am now on 36 hours after taking my last pill and of course have all the symptoms listed. Tried zzquill last night to sleep I slept an hour and a half. My legs are not as bothersome today which could be due to eating bananas. I have an appointment today at 2:30 with a sub dr and honestly I'm scared of substituting one thing for another. After reading a lot on suboxone I'm scared of it and thinking I should just continue cold turkey. Right now my sleep is the worst part and not sure of the next few days. Just looking for any input or support. Thanks
I need help. Where can I share my story?
lostbutready, this forum is the right place to begin and you can start a thread here. I am not sure if you need to have posted a few times to do that, but someone will be along who can better inform you; I just wanted to welcome you to the site.
I'm only 20 years old, and I'm addicted to hydrocodone. I've been reading on this forum for about 6 months now, and just recently joined. I'm ready to share my story. My habit started early in the year of 2012 when I have a very difficult breakup. I used the pills to try and get my mind off of it, and I started off taking small doses (1 10mg) just to feel good, well that soon escalated to taking anywhere from 9- 10/325 norcos in a days time to sometimes 20 or 30 in one day. I am not perscribed them. I have went C/T many times, and always relapsed. I'm ready to get rid of this nasty devil taking over my life. My days revolve around how full my pill bottle is, and I don't want to live like this anymore. I'm ready to kick the nasty opiate. I'm willing to do it this time. I have a wonderful boyfriend, family, and bestfriend. Only my best friend knows what's going on, and I just recently told him everything tonight. I just need some support. I will start C/T tomorrow. I tried to say but ended up taking 3 7.5 hydro, one 5mg hydro and a half of a 5mg. They were spread out throughout the day. Although, I will tell you this is the worst I've ever felt today. I didn't get a buzz, and they didn't even help, really. I don't get the "buzz" anymore. I take them to feel "normal". I've done horrible things to buy them, and I'm even in debt at only 20 years old. Any advice, encouragement, or reply will help. Thanks for reading.
Hey Lost but ready,
The way to start a new thread is to go to the main page of the "Need to Talk" forum here: http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk/
Then use the button for "Post New Thread" and go from there.
What you've done is added to an old thread, so it is less likely to be seen by others here. You're better off with your own new thread. You can start it any time.
The first thing you need to do when you stop is to get rid of ANY and ALL pills you have. And you need to cut off any access to more pills. Seriously, this disease of addiction can't afford the luxury of a "safety net" - because we'll find some excuse for more. Set yourself up to succeed.
Also - get yourself to some NA or AA meetings - the sooner, the better. That's where you'll find the support and guidance you need. This forum is a great supplement to a 12-step program, but can't take the place of it. You can find local meetings through the NA.org or AA.org websites.
Feel free to post on your thread as often as you need to. If you ever need to find me or have a question, you can post to me on my thread at http://www.drugs.com/forum/need-talk...658-63459.html.
God bless - you can do this!
You will know the truth - and only the truth can set you free.
Wow. I'm brand new here and really don't know how to start a new thread.
After searching the internet for answers about hydrocodone and effects and duration of withdrawal I found this and hope someone can help.
I really don't have that many questions after reading all of the posts and all are quite encouraging and hopeful in regards to support which is what I'm hoping for.
I've been taking hydro since Nov. 2014 for a broken hip and am currently waiting for my 2nd round of phys. therapy now that I can start bearing weight on my left foot.
Being in recovery for alcoholism since '93 and battling THAT for years I have become comfortable with my recovery but now that I have THIS in my life I know that I am in GREAT danger of addiction in any form especially narcotics.
I have decided that I need to either slow down on the hydro or cut it out altogether but in my addictive brain, I'm scared as hell to "Let go" of the pill due to pain AND my now behavior and attitude when not sedated in that way. I'm not HORRIBLY addicted as of yet (in my mind I am) but I can already feel the effects of withdrawal physically to an extent but even more so in my attitude. Small things (even TV noise) is incredibly irritating (as well as my sig. other) and am nauseated,shaky,and have no energy and crying like an idiot so I know great danger is in store if I don't seek some kind of support and QUICKLY.
My dilemma...having a past with addiction in my relationship,and being away from my support group and not able to make meetings because I'm housebound...I'm horribly ashamed of myself for letting this happen to me (I've been taking pills when not really needed) and scared to let my "partner" or AA group members know what I'm experiencing and about to go through as far as withdrawal symptoms. I'm also scared to tell my doctor for fear he may cut me off completely and make me really on simple Advil while going through with my phys.therapy. Which I MIGHT be able to do. It's too soon to tell yet.
Tomorrow will be my first day of abstinence 1/28/15 as I've already taken a dose (10mg.) this afternoon.
I don't expect it to take a very long time to taper off (IF I have the strength to do that) but I need some sort of support while doing so just to "talk" and get it out of my head. This may not be the proper place to do so, I don't know,but it's the first step(in my mind) and may help tremendously in succeeding not taking this any more.
I'm not one to reach out,whine,complain nor feel sorry for myself which is why it took SO damned long for my success as far as alcoholism.
I also want to thank those who've been down this path and your words of success with symptoms and eventual freedom have been quite helpful already.
Maybe I've caught this early enough.
Thanks in advance to everyone.
Hi there. Welcome.
Originally Posted by Renbeaux
You can start a new thread here on the Need to Talk board clicking the back button. That will take you back to the list of threads. At the top left, click on "start new thread".
You really shouldn't be afraid to go to AA. Everyone there understands and has been there, done that.
All the best,
Click on "Need to Talk" and there is a button on the left that says "Post new thread". But I'll reply here.
I recently went back to oxycodone which is stronger than hydrocodone by the end of November like you and last weekend I got off it, and it was nothing, just about nothing. YOU CAN DO THIS. The anxiety and mental fear is the big thing. The physical withdrawals will be minimal. Now, yes, they will mess with your head. If you aren't careful they'll have you reaching for a pill and you need to keep in mind that it's not going to get as bad as your anxiety is trying to make you believe.
I recommend having Immodium on hand if you get the runs for a day or two. This time around I did not have any nausea but did have some tummy cramping and headache and emotional spells. But it was really pretty easy. My highest amount was 30 mg per day but most days of that two months I took less. If you have taken no more than prescribed amounts you should undergo nothing worse than I did. Today is day 5 for me and it is all over, I am COMPLETELY back to normal. I think you will be too, so be encouraged. You do not have a years long habit which takes longer to recover from.
Your problem might be physical pain from your hip. Don't be discouraged the first day or two or three if you have a lot of pain. This should diminish. Before you decide you need to go back on the pills give it at least 5 days. Your brain's own natural endorphins may kick in.
Since you have a medical need you may want to keep the pills but since you have an addiction history you may know yourself and know that you will not stay away from them if you keep them. An option is buying a small office safe or lockbox, lock it away and give your partner the key. Or just put the key somewhere inconvenient and that might be enough to keep you from getting a pill, you might say, ah well, I'd just as soon sit here than go crawl under the house or whatever.
I can't tell you about how to deal with your doctor but only what I would do, in this environment it's getting hard to find good doctors and you have a broken hip, are you older? Don't know your location but in the U.S. many docs are rejecting Medicare patients, what I would do if it was me is to not bring anything up with the doctor until you know where you are going to be with this in a few weeks. If you get past it successfully and don't go back to the pills, no need to rock the boat but use your judgment. Hard core addicts have their docs put "no opiates" in their record but if you've been clean off alcohol many years this might be a new situation of old age and new needs. Again I apologize if I am assuming you are elderly but most broken hips are in the elderly and if you have not drank since '93, if it were me, I'd approach this as a clean slate.... maintaining a lot of honesty with yourself!
Edit, whoops, Kat is right, back button. Also agree, go back to AA good idea.
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I quit after 10 years and tried ALL...and I mean ALL the above, nothing worked as we wanted. What worked for me and saved me? Ani-dirrahea lopermaide. Buy it anywhere. I did some research and the exact same drug: lopermaide was a Control III drug. It has opiates in it but so-so-so low of dose. It took me 12 days of taking it. Did I get stopped up? Yes, very much so 'but' it worked. Your body will tell you to >>>> even though you are taking lopermaide. The amount of lopermaide I think kinda scares poeple. I started at 15 pills a day. 5 X 3. It sounds crazy as crazy can get, but it worked. Other sites (maybe this one too) will say it will do damage to your body etc. It didn't for me. Is it hard to do? Sure, look what you are going through. 10 years of heavy habit. 120mg daily of roxi's. My fav was Norco, I would go through a bottle of 150 in a week no problem. Doctor's careless when it comes to money. That train stopped by me, I had too. Family and wanting to live, go on vacation with out worrying about the next supply of freggin pills. 3 year annv is today so I decided to browse the internet and find other stories. I can 101% relate to you all. Do I struggle? at times as the craving kicks every 3-5 months but I avoid it at all costs. Think of your family, kids, etc. Pill is a priority #1 (you might not think that, but it is)