that he has traded one drug for another... hes been on the 8 mg of subs now for months ,, we are in marriage counselling and it has all came out ,, I need him to stop already so starting ( since I have his subs) I have him on 6 mg a day ,,, robert, i hope you will be willling to help me again I know this has been a long process for you just as it has been for me,,,, thanks for your help.... K ~

[TTTDogs]

Hello,

Glad you made the step to post - and it looks like you need Robert - the best way to reach him is to post on the Suboxene - Robert 325 thread - there are 2 of them - hope that helps and good luck!

TTT

or does anyone have any advice ?

[TTTDogs]

Hello,

You might want to try Roberts new thread " I am not blowing anyone off" - he is tied up with medical issues - another suggestio is to look for RUBYDEAN - he seems to know alot about subs as well

Hope that helps,

HUGS TTT

[RubyDean]

alycas, it sounds to me like your husband really wants to make things better. going to marriage counseling and coming clean about being on suboxone syas a lot about his character. you helping him, and being in charge of his meds will work wonders for his recovery. just keep being supportive and you will get thru any hard days. recovery, marriage, family, work, and our relationships can really shake a mans pride, but when we keep doing the next right thing it all seems to work out. having a strong loving partner has saved my life. i know robert will help you, but i know he has been struggling with his knee and his life is real busy lately. he somehow manages to still check in on us, and share his grace and guidance, even on the hard days. it sounds like you know what to do, so keep it up! he is more than ready to drop to 6mg, and see how it goes for the next 4 days. When he is ready drop it to 4mg, or 4.5 if need be. I like the round easy numbers when dosing. It seems to work fine at the higher doses.

[Freedom4me]

Alycas,
The way Robert does it, and I know there are other ways like Ruby says, is to stay at a dose for 4 days and then drop it by 25%. You then stay there for 4 days and then drop by 25% and so on. As he gets lower he may have a few clitches that you can seek Robert out for. Sometimes, after hearing all the symptoms, he will tell him to take a tiny sliver or remain at the dose an extra day or two but sometimes he will say to push through and stick it out. I will message him and ask him to check on your thread. I know it will be very helpful if you give him as many details on your husbands previous drug use (what drug, how much a day, how long was he using) as well as a detailed history on his sub use ( how much he was inducted on, how he got to the level he is at, how long he has been at that level). There is no one I would trust more to taper me down off the subs. If you follow what he says to the letter it should be smooth sailing. Keep posting and remember to put your husbands history up so Robert can advise. He may be busy since he is having health issues of his own but he will post, I promise. I have never seen him let anyone down who was sincere and committed. I will message him right now.

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by alycas

that he has traded one drug for another... hes been on the 8 mg of subs now for months ,, we are in marriage counselling and it has all came out ,, I need him to stop already so starting ( since I have his subs) I have him on 6 mg a day ,,, robert, i hope you will be willling to help me again I know this has been a long process for you just as it has been for me,,,, thanks for your help.... K ~

Even when a person is on subs for an extended period of time 8mg is WAY too high of a dose considering I often induct people at half that dose. He's using the subs to get high would be my first suspicion.

Going down to 6mg is fine. That is a 25% reduction which is exactly what we suggest. He shouldn't have any problems there and should be fine dropping to 4mg while he's at this high dose like RubyDean said. 4.5mg is actually a 25% reduction but at this high of a dose he should be able to do that just fine instead of dealing with the extra .5mg added into the picture.

I will never turn my back on anyone as long as they will shoot straight with me and follow the instructions. After all we are dealing with people who have an addiction problem. Between you and me working together to help him we should be able to be successful if he is willing to work with us. We can't hardly force him into this. The ultimate decision has to be his regardless of how hard we try to help him.

Keep me posted what is going on and you know I would hope that I'll be here for you guys. Just let me know what his status is as we move forward. Keep me posted what I can do to help. We can use this thread right here for our personal communications regarding him between us. Post all over the place but keep yours and my posts right here so I have all the info in one thread so it's easier to follow along and keep up with what is happening as I get so many questions each day. It really helps me to do it this way. God bless.

thanks everyone,,,, so i should reduce him to 4mg ? These pills are not easy to cut, they crumble very easily,,, yes my husband is trying, i see it and i dont seem to be as mad at him anymore, I realize i need to let go of alot of things with him. i cant keep throwing stuff in his face and expect him to change i guess its just one day at a time,for now...,,,

[Freedom4me]

Alycas,
You are a good wife for sticking with him. He needs your support. The many people here are a testiment to the fact that it can be done. One thing, make sure how ever much he is taking for the day, you split it in half and he takes one dose in the morning and one dose in the evening. 2 doeses at the per day is important and try to have him take them around the same time every day. Keep posting to Robert and he will get you both there. Best of luck.