Help with Hydrocodone WD

[chucknice]

Been doing up to 200mg a day for approximately 3.5 years. Went CT 24 hours ago. I felt horrible today. Did talk doctor into Clonazapam just talking about anxiety. Doing Thomas... This is really hard. Especially knowing I can get more on Wednesday.

I want to stop, but I do need a bit of support. No one I can tell do to personal reasons. I have maintained friendships and employment throughout addiction.

I have been reading, but how much worse will it get. I normally keep the house at 75. Now, it is 82, just to keep from shivering. Back and forth to the bathroom, even with the immodium.

Advice, suggestions, & words of wisdome would be appreciated.

[Kauf]

Been doing up to 200mg a day for approximately 3.5 years. Went CT 24 hours ago. I felt horrible today. Did talk doctor into Clonazapam just talking about anxiety. Doing Thomas... This is really hard. Especially knowing I can get more on Wednesday.

I want to stop, but I do need a bit of support. No one I can tell do to personal reasons. I have maintained friendships and employment throughout addiction.

I have been reading, but how much worse will it get. I normally keep the house at 75. Now, it is 82, just to keep from shivering. Back and forth to the bathroom, even with the immodium.

Advice, suggestions, & words of wisdome would be appreciated.

Wow I feel ya it is very hard but you took the biggest step and that is knowing it is a prob, hot baths help a lot and reading this board helped me, but I'm on suboxone I just started it 5 days ago, it really helps to get your life back in order. Hope you stick it out and not suffer just to get more wed that would be worthless sense you will be at day 3 and only have a day or 2 more till the worse is over. Good luck

[staysober10]

Been doing up to 200mg a day for approximately 3.5 years. Went CT 24 hours ago. I felt horrible today. Did talk doctor into Clonazapam just talking about anxiety. Doing Thomas... This is really hard. Especially knowing I can get more on Wednesday.

I want to stop, but I do need a bit of support. No one I can tell do to personal reasons. I have maintained friendships and employment throughout addiction.

I have been reading, but how much worse will it get. I normally keep the house at 75. Now, it is 82, just to keep from shivering. Back and forth to the bathroom, even with the immodium.

Advice, suggestions, & words of wisdome would be appreciated.

Chucknice,

Hang in there bro, its not an easy ride but everyone on here says it only lasts 5-7 days then your gradually start to feel better. I am only a couple days clean. I have intense cravings, the runs, anxiety, rsl, and stomach pains. I have been trying to stop for a year a half now. I've tried to stop a million times only to fall off the wagon again but I always get back on.

You came to the right place, it is a little bit late right now but people will read your thread and they will reply and offer you guidance and support. If I were you, I would forget about Wednesday. You would be going on day 3 or 4 and almost through with the worst of it, why go back to day 1 again only to feel high for 15-20 minutes.

Bro, I get it, its the hardest thing in the world to quit. I dont even know if I can say no if someone called me right now but deep down inside I want to stop and end this madness. I am sick of being sick and tired and having no money and no energy. This isn't a game, this is real life. Just put an end to the madness bro, read peoples stories on here, share how you are feeling and thinking on here even if its every hour.

Just dont give in to the demon, never surrender to those pills. Remember, there will always be a part of your brain that wants them but the negatives far outweigh the positives. Keep posting my friend and I hope you make the decision to stay sober.

- SS

[chucknice]

Wow I feel ya it is very hard but you took the biggest step and that is knowing it is a prob, hot baths help a lot and reading this board helped me, but I'm on suboxone I just started it 5 days ago, it really helps to get your life back in order. Hope you stick it out and not suffer just to get more wed that would be worthless sense you will be at day 3 and only have a day or 2 more till the worse is over. Good luck

That's what I'm thinking... Stupid to get halfway through the worst part just to restart the cycle. I think I just needed someone else to tell me that. Funny how the mind works.

I have been reading a lot of threads on here and it seems that if I can make it to day 5, I should be through the worst of it. I would appreciated any advice from other CT quitters.

[staysober10]

That's what I'm thinking... Stupid to get halfway through the worst part just to restart the cycle. I think I just needed someone else to tell me that. Funny how the mind works.

I have been reading a lot of threads on here and it seems that if I can make it to day 5, I should be through the worst of it. I would appreciated any advice from other CT quitters.

Feel free to read my story, its called "I'd like my life back..." its on page 1, Ive been through what your going through and I am still going through it. We can lean on each other if you want, whatever it takes not to use again.

[caughtagain]

Nice... Welcome to the forum. You have been given good advice by Kauf and SS.. They no the drill well. But here is something to add and will guide you.. YOU HAVE TO WANT IT... If so, just realize that for 5 days or so, you are going to feel like A$$. no two ways around it. Get mad at the symptoms and convince yourself that YOU are going to complete this 5 days and go from there... Treat the symptoms right now, that is, take what you need to feel better.. Google the Thomas Recipe..When I did this (story is on here) 2 years 7 months ago, I did it without the Benzo's. I also worked about 60 hours a week and told no one... I just posted a ton and just took it second by second.. I was convinced I did not want to feel numb anymore... You can do it chuck, we are rooting for you. Let us know what we can do to help... All my Best, Reid

[Catrina]

Hi Chuck and Welcome to the Forum,

All wonderful advice above, of course...that's what you'll find here. Reid was 7 months clean when I joined the Forum 2 yrs ago (my anniversary is today!). I absolutely couldn't agree with Reid's advice and it's the same I offer up all the time. I call it the "switch" in my brain that I just had to find a way to shut it the hell off! And I did. In the beginning, where you are, I would quite literally look at the clock and tell myself that I could make it 15 more minutes and then if I couldn't take it anymore, I'd make a call. Then I would repeat that over and over and over. By the time I was able to get 3 days into it, even though my symptoms were peaking, I was telling myself, "I'll make it until noon" then I can make it until 5pm, then I would agonize because I knew if I waited too much longer I would HAVE to make it thru the night because it'd be too late to make the call, that would be around 8 or 9 pm. Once it became too late, I'd be able to let the day go and tell myself I could make the call in the morning. I never made the call. Two years later and my daily ritual STILL includes a hot shower and looking myself square into what are now clear bright eyes (I love that!) and tell myself that I won't use today. That's it. No promise beyond that.

I abused for 20 yrs! I had countless relapses and am quite the expert at cold turkey. It was only by taking detox one minute at a time that I was able to find that switch and to fully understand the one day at a time concept. By Day 5, it was like magic! Like I'd been visited by an angel who removed all the ugly symptoms and I was left with feeling a bit weak kneed but the tummy issues just about all gone and the RLS (the worst for me!) gone! I mean completely gone. I stretched to test them afraid it would create an unset of that awful feeling but they were gone!

Get thru this. Every single small commitment you make will be and ought to be a triumph for you. Do you have what it takes to speak with your doctor frankly and tell him/her what you are doing? I promise he/she will only help you and support you. Most doctors respect efforts to get clean and once you cut that option off you can stop that battle in your head to "refill or not???". Can you get that refill cancelled? I'll bet you can get your doctor's office to do it for you. That would be HUGE. I remember talking to my doctor and telling him I had to stop the madness. He was wonderful! I left the office with some anxiety about taking that step knowing that I had turned a corner. Turns out it was but one of the best things I did for myself. Think about it, OK?

Keep reading and posting. It's unbelievably therapeutic!

Peace,

Cat

[caughtagain]

Wow!!!! Congrats CAT!!!! So proud of you! hugs (cyber) Reid

[chucknice]

Hi Chuck and Welcome to the Forum,

All wonderful advice above, of course...that's what you'll find here. Reid was 7 months clean when I joined the Forum 2 yrs ago (my anniversary is today!). I absolutely couldn't agree with Reid's advice and it's the same I offer up all the time. I call it the "switch" in my brain that I just had to find a way to shut it the hell off! And I did. In the beginning, where you are, I would quite literally look at the clock and tell myself that I could make it 15 more minutes and then if I couldn't take it anymore, I'd make a call. Then I would repeat that over and over and over. By the time I was able to get 3 days into it, even though my symptoms were peaking, I was telling myself, "I'll make it until noon" then I can make it until 5pm, then I would agonize because I knew if I waited too much longer I would HAVE to make it thru the night because it'd be too late to make the call, that would be around 8 or 9 pm. Once it became too late, I'd be able to let the day go and tell myself I could make the call in the morning. I never made the call. Two years later and my daily ritual STILL includes a hot shower and looking myself square into what are now clear bright eyes (I love that!) and tell myself that I won't use today. That's it. No promise beyond that.

I abused for 20 yrs! I had countless relapses and am quite the expert at cold turkey. It was only by taking detox one minute at a time that I was able to find that switch and to fully understand the one day at a time concept. By Day 5, it was like magic! Like I'd been visited by an angel who removed all the ugly symptoms and I was left with feeling a bit weak kneed but the tummy issues just about all gone and the RLS (the worst for me!) gone! I mean completely gone. I stretched to test them afraid it would create an unset of that awful feeling but they were gone!

Get thru this. Every single small commitment you make will be and ought to be a triumph for you. Do you have what it takes to speak with your doctor frankly and tell him/her what you are doing? I promise he/she will only help you and support you. Most doctors respect efforts to get clean and once you cut that option off you can stop that battle in your head to "refill or not???". Can you get that refill cancelled? I'll bet you can get your doctor's office to do it for you. That would be HUGE. I remember talking to my doctor and telling him I had to stop the madness. He was wonderful! I left the office with some anxiety about taking that step knowing that I had turned a corner. Turns out it was but one of the best things I did for myself. Think about it, OK?

Keep reading and posting. It's unbelievably therapeutic!

Peace,

Cat

It's not a refill... It's 'my guy'. I had a very rough night last night, but even today on Day 2, I forced a shave & shower and got dressed. Probably going to run into the office for a bit instead of just sitting at home in misery.

Keep the support coming. It is needed.

[staysober10]

It's not a refill... It's 'my guy'. I had a very rough night last night, but even today on Day 2, I forced a shave & shower and got dressed. Probably going to run into the office for a bit instead of just sitting at home in misery.

Keep the support coming. It is needed.

Hey Chucknice,

We are about the same as far as WD time goes. I have to go to work soon as well, dreading it! I have been addicted for a year and a half. I stayed sober the entire month of september through the middle of october. I then came across some pills and I havent been able to stop.

Please bro, no matter how bad you feel dont get those pills tomorrow. I guarantee you, once you take them you are going to regret it. You will mask the pain for a few days until you run out and then your going to go through day 1 all over again. Just stop now, you have a couple more days maybe 3 more days of feeling like poop but it will get better.

Just keep posting bro. Thats all I have been doing, just trying not to think about pills. I havent been truly been tested yet so when that time comes I hope I pass. Your test is coming up tomorrow and I hope you make the right call to say "NO THANKS, AND PLEASE DONT CONTACT ME ANYMORE, I AM TRYING TO QUIT." That will be the hardest thing you will ever have to do but its the right one.

In a month when your still sober and the fog clears and thing are more clearer to you, you will thank yourself for making the decision to stay sober. Good luck bro, im gonna keep checking on ya.

[cryin out]

Congratulations Catrina...woo hoo

Stay strong ChuckNice. I am on day 7 We just gotta hang in here!!!

[Bren6]

Hang in there, the worst is almost over. It takes time. Every day it gets better. I am 15 days clean from vics and I could have called in a legitimate prescription since last Tuesday but I do not want to do this anymore. I have an appointment with my doc tomorrow to tell him all about it. Oh yeah, I also told my "contact" I was stopping the extra ones.

[chucknice]

Thanks all... I needed to hear some of that. I was so restless last night. Ambien at midnight and 3AM, still barely no sleep. This is a tough one...

[flatsman444]

Stay with it . I am seven years addicted now. I hate not being free. So if you can pull this off , thats the prize . FREEDOM . I was on the other side seven years ago. Clear headed , not dependant. Keep going one day at a time in no more then seven days you will be on the other side. Its your choice , Seven Days or Seven Years . It wont stop until you stop it. This forum is spectacular for all of us. Peace

[flatsman444]

Chucknice , so you wont think I am a hipocrat . I am in day two of cold turkey. This is the 4th or 5th time in the last seven years. So my words are of encouragement , not advice.

[chucknice]

Chucknice , so you wont think I am a hipocrat . I am in day two of cold turkey. This is the 4th or 5th time in the last seven years. So my words are of encouragement , not advice.

No problem... I've made it past this before, but by Day 7, everything I had asked for had come in and I started the cycle all over again.

This is my second time trying to stop.

[chucknice]

Wide awake tonight... Clonopin did nothing. What to do? Watching Netflix at the moment.

[chucknice]

Well, I am halfway through Day 3... I prefer to go by days... I FINALLY (at like 4:30AM), got 3 hours of sleep after taking a second Ambien (Doc said that was okay for me to do for no more than 5 days, otherwise I would have bad rebound insomnia).

Got about 4 hours of sleep and I must say I feel a 'little' better today. Those first two days are killers. I suppose I see the light at the end of the tunnel now... Cancelled my 'order' for today, so I am in for the long term... Too much wasted $.

Please, all of you, keep the positive words coming. It helps me so much.

[cryin out]

I know it is tough right now but hold on Chuck. HAve you read Texas Girl Katies thread? Man that girl flew right through withdrawals with dignity like only I wish I had. I still freak out a bit. I saw your comment on my thread about emotions, and yes to the kiddo's but I found that I was pretty disconnected in a way staying way to busy (of course it was holiday season my busiest and I work alone) but it has been great slowin down and talking more with them. I hope your time with family helps encourage you too

[flatsman444]

Hey Chucknice . Just read your thread and you are in day three , right? Same as me but my dose was 15mg / daily . If I read you correctly you said you were useing 200 mg. daily. I have a horrible time when I cold turkey off hydrocodone even at 15 mg. I have so much respect for people like you that can stop the cycle even at such doses. You are the man . Just keep thinking about the prize. Remember when you were clean and didnt spend a minuet of your day thinking about drugs. Remember when you had a clear mind . Remember when your feelings were your own and not some drug induced feeling. The place I am inspiring you to go to is the place you were when you were FREE. We are not free when narcotics rule are daily life. Robert325 once told me , " imagine there was no more narcotics on the planet " . We would survive and not only survive , we would be free. Thats the prize Chucknice, lets both of us get FREE.

[chucknice]

Thanks all... I found your thread, flats...

A little encouragement goes a long way. I got out today and bought groceries, came home and did some office work remotely. I am almost to the beginning of Day 4... Should get better. That's what I am telling myself. I know getting out of this house helped A LOT.

[lilguy101]

I was not on such a high dose for so long, as you. I was on 70-90mg for 8 months. That's maxing it out....the two things that helped me the most were supplements/vitamins and exercise.

The first few days I took like 8-16 immodium throughout the day/night. I sware it took away like 75% of w/d. Also supplemented with a product called lumiday which has a bunch of herbs to promote well being, relaxation, and feeling good. Took that first thing every morning, still am, on an empty stomach. I tool l-theanine when the anxiety would strike a few times a day. Also a ton of water, fiber, and multi vitamin.

Excersize literally Would take away 100% of my w/d for a few hours then it'd creep back, but was worth it...On day 7-8-9-10 I did p90x, which is intense! But you feel sooo good after with your endorphins working.

I am on day 10-11 and feel 0 w/d other than rls at
Night. My sleeping isnt great, but never was. I am so happy now it's un f'n real! I know everyone says it but PUSH THROUGH!

Oh and have sex as much as u can. I went from lasting 45 minutes while using to lasting 45 seconds while w/ding. My stamina is getting back now at day 10-11 but still a two pump chump. Haha, but it feels good.

Best of luck....I work at a vitamin store and took a few other herbs I can help u w if you have any ?'s

[flatsman444]

Hi Chucknice, hey man day four . Congrats to you and me too. We are both in day 4 of WD. But I want to remind you again of the PRIZE. The prize is your freedom. Free to experience life and family without the fog of painkillers. Its easy for me to give good solid advice but its so hard for me to follow it. But at least we know what we have to do. There are many out there that have not even accepted that they are in trouble with narcotics. We at least know its got to stop and we are trying real hard to beat this. Good luck Bro and keep in touch.

[chucknice]

Yes, Day 4 it is... I did get a little sleep last night, with a dose of Nyquil with my Ambien. Dried up my runny nose a bit too.

Gonna keep on keeping on today. Plan on running up to the gym and at least sitting in the dry sauna for 15-20 minutes and maybe a little on the treadmill. Too cold to do anything outside.

[flatsman444]

Hi Chuck. Hope your doing ok . I am hanging in there and dont want to take any hydro. I feel strong right now. Not strong enough to flush but strong enough to know I really need to. You are pretty amazing Chuck , your more than halfway home. Dont give up the prize. ( freedom )

[chucknice]

You too, flats... I'm here for you if you need me. We are on the verge of a great freedom. Today, I laughed naturally a few times. It felt really good. If you have Netflix, I highly recommend watching something funny. Tonight at 10PM Central, I start Day 5.

[flatsman444]

DAY 5 Chuck. Me too. I feel pretty good , still think about the pills but dont want them. It will take some time to stop thinking about them. My personality just cant accept me using. I need to stop so I can feel good about myself. Day 5 makes me feel pretty good and it should you too. Just think about how hopeless you felt when you were in the throws of 200 mg. / daily use. Now you are 5 days free of Hydrocodone. Most of it is out of our systems Chuck. Now be patient as it takes some time to get the brain to do its thing on its own. The pills mess up the natural production of endorphin's in the brain . They will return , but for me it takes a few weeks. But getting better gradually day by day. Its a slow process Down and its a slow process back. But We , my man are 5 days into the process of coming BACK. Congrats Chuck. Peace

[chucknice]

Congrats to you as well, my friend.

[chucknice]

Not so bad of a day today...

If you are browsing this board wondering if you can do this... YES YOU CAN

[flatsman444]

Hey Chuck. day 5 went pretty good. I flushed all my pills a couple hours ago. Will be turning in soon . I hope Day 6 gives me a few of those clear head moments. They are always needed. Keep in touch.