[Mario84]

Hello again!

I was on here in the beginning of the year and got great help from everyone on here. I did a SUB program in Feb and got off in 2 months and everything went great after that! Until I got into a serious car accident in august, had major leg surgery due to the accident. I did not take anything from the doctor at first and he told me that I was crazy because I was in SERIOUS pain. I held out as long as possible but I started to take this ******** again and here we are at the end of October and I am ADDICTED once again! I feel like such a piece of ******** because I was off of this ******** and here I am back on!! Should I just do a SUB program again? or is there a way I can do this myself? I got received great support from all of you guys/gals last time...

Overall I just feel like such an a$$hole because I am back on these Fing pills and I was off for 4 months strong and then I had to get into a serious accident, I got hit by a 89yr old guy that should not be driving!!!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME AGAIN! I do not know what to do and I am depressed and ready to make the next step AGAIN!!! I know I can do it, I did it once before!!

I am taking approx 80-100mg/day oxycodone... WHAT CAN I DO MYSELF???

Thanks in advance!
Mario

[Freedom4me]

Mario,
If you did the subs before and it worked for you then I would go for it again. Don't beat yourself up. You know you can get off the drugs. You have done it before so there is nothing to fear, no unknown. Best of luck to you. Keep posting!!

[Mario84]

I know I can do it again!! I feel like I am a failure though... I want to go back to the same sub doctor that I went to before... just a little reluctant to do so, I was doing GREAT until that old guy destroyed my new car and my leg, I had 6 surgeries on my leg and its still not right... I am dealing with the pain, I just want OFF again!!!!! How can I detox myself?

[Robert_325]

Hi Mario ..... Hey dude! Good to hear from you again. Remember my friend that BS happens every day. You can't let yourself feel like a failure anytime you happen to get involved in an accident. But I think that I would try the Thomas Recipe being as you haven't been doing this that long. I wouldn't go off into the subs again after such a short time. You can do this I know you can.

Do YOU have the necessary confidence in yourself to do this without the subs? Do you want to go through all that again for two months when you can be totally clean in a week or so? You're the one who has to make the call on this deal. I'm here for you regardless of which decision you make. But I would be lots more enthused for you if we did this using the Thomas Recipe. I think that's the smartest route for you to take.

Let me know what you think. Tell me how I can help you and we'll work this out. Just don't freak out over this .... it was an accident. You just have to decide which way you're going to do this and then we do what is required for you to be successful. Just stay focused and make up your mind that you're going to be successful regardless of which way you go.

Let me know what you think and I'll be around in the morning. Think about this tonight and make a decision by morning. Then we'll get started and you'll end up clean again just like before. Have some confidence in yourself. You know about setting goals or you would never sell a car. Let me know. God bless.

[melinda7.5]

Hi Mario
I don't know if you remember me, but I followed your thread the last time...
I have been clean for over a year, in July I had to go in for surgery it was suppose to be an easy fix, but they messed up on me so I had to take pain pills for a couple months, so just like you I got addicted again...but I made it
and things are back to normal...so don't beat yourself up things happen...
let us know what your going to do...
Talk to you soon, Melinda

[percashawn]

Originally Posted by Mario84

I know I can do it again!! I feel like I am a failure though... I want to go back to the same sub doctor that I went to before... just a little reluctant to do so, I was doing GREAT until that old guy destroyed my new car and my leg, I had 6 surgeries on my leg and its still not right... I am dealing with the pain, I just want OFF again!!!!! How can I detox myself?

Hello, my Friend; You want to talk about being an a$$. I lied to my Dr. to get stuff. Perc 10/325's. Its been about 2 yrs. now and I am trying tapering. The meds are made for a reason. Pain. You were in pain. That is what they are there for. Don't be hard on yourself. You KNOW you can do it. Done it b4. This may sound strange but I did self-hypnosis with a CD on my I-POD. It took the 'crutch' thinking away. The feeling that I had to have a pill if I was going to a meeting, fishing trip, appointments ect.. was gone after just one secsion. ( my spelling sucks. ) I typed my whole experiance on TTTDogs thread about the morphine. She is wonderful!!! Read it as it may help. It was a few days ago. I was no longer watching the clock. I let the symptoms be my clock. ( shoulders, jerks and stuff. ) Then I would take a half and it would relieve the symptoms. B4 I knew it, I was down to 2 pills a day. I freaked out and started laughing which turned into crying thinking " Maybe this really IS possible!" I was on 5 per day and still get 120 pills per month plus 90 Somas.
This is my 4th day of doing 2 a day with really no discomfort. I am new here and have never been on any forums in my life but it sounds like you already have friends here. Good for you. I'm am on Opee's thread a lot. I don't have my own cause I don't even know how to do that yet. Opee is Awsome too. He has been a lot of help for me and has a great sence of humor which is good for me because I seem to offend a lot of people with mine.
You Da Man!
Shawn

[Mario84]

EVERYONE THANK YOU!!!! I would like to gt off this ASAP... Lets go with the Thomas Recipe!!! What do I need to do? Will I feel the withdrawl? LETS GET THIS GOING!!! I want to start NOW!!

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by Mario84

EVERYONE THANK YOU!!!! I would like to gt off this ASAP... Lets go with the Thomas Recipe!!! What do I need to do? Will I feel the withdrawl? LETS GET THIS GOING!!! I want to start NOW!!

Good for you Mario. You've made the right decision I'm very confident considering the short time you've been relapsed. The subs would just string you out for way longer than what is necessary for you to be successful.

This won't be a "symptom-free" process but it won't last long. I always suggest getting the supplements in your system and working to help you a couple days prior to actually beginning the detox. That will help you keep the w/d symptoms to as much of a minimum as possible. Hey you're strong, you can do this and it will only last a minimal number of days.

Here is a link to the Thomas Recipe. I would start the supplements a couple days prior to starting your detox to give them time to be working in your system. So you could work your busy Friday and Saturday (AND SELL A BUNCH OF CARS!!!) and then begin the actual detox.

You know that I'm here to help you any way that I can. Just let me know what I can do to help you buddy. God bless.

http://www.drugs.com/forum/featured-...wal-35169.html

[Mario84]

Thanks Robert!!! I am going to start this on Sunday... I already have most of the supplements. After I finished the SUB program the last time I started to hit the gym hard and got myself into great "beach body" shape ;-) So i have a lot of this stuff in my system already which I think will help me even more!! I will let you know how everything is moving along!! ONCE AGAIN....THANK YOU!!! Everyone on here is great and I appreciate everyones input!!
-Mario

[Mario84]

AHHHH!!! I feel like ******** right now! Day 1 of withdrawl! I cant wait to leave here and take some k-pins. I started everything this morning and i am not feeling well at ALL! Tmo is going to be worse, but I am stronger than the drugs!! I will talk to you all tmo! Hope everyone is doing well!!!!!
Mario

[mottam]

Originally Posted by Mario84

AHHHH!!! I feel like ******** right now! Day 1 of withdrawl! I cant wait to leave here and take some k-pins. I started everything this morning and i am not feeling well at ALL! Tmo is going to be worse, but I am stronger than the drugs!! I will talk to you all tmo! Hope everyone is doing well!!!!!
Mario

Mario:
Great job - stay tough!
I went through w/d, at work, using a "variation" of the thomas recipe.
And, I was using at your level, ~ 100 mg of oxy.
Just a few days of commitment, Mario. I know you feel like ******** right now - it will be OK. Just ~ 1 week and you OWN your life again.

If there is anything I can do, any input you need - just shout.
We are definitely here to support you.

Stay strong - STAY CLEAN. Freedom is just a week away!

Kindest Regards
mottam