got my subs what now?

[dougy]

Thats one thing with My wife.. Family is everything.. You take care of family.. Brothers sisters neice's nephews aunts, uncles parents grandparents.. Doesn't matter If they are family you help them if can.lol
It's nice that they get to go back every year. My wife is going back this year with the kids for the whole summer. I'll go over later in the summer for a few weeks to help on the trip back.. Only set back is it's such a long long long flight.. This is first time she's back home in nearly 8 years. longest time for her..She's really looking forward to it.. I'm looking forward to going back too..
Love the name.. Nova James Patrick..
My Daughters name in Thai.. Boikil ..I think it means green lotus.. I forget my sons. lol.. what ever his name is, it probably means .. BAD in thai. He's a hard one to handle but I love him more then anything though..
Thanks Marian

[cheekysod]

haha dougy wanna know about long flights try livin in new zealand. its 14 hours to hong kong. or 13 to LA and thats only half way to London, and my family are up in scotland.... so its a few days to get there... no bull... we are in the bottom corner of that huge ocean called the pacific... long ways to anywhere for us fullas

but funnily enough tons of us travel and see the world. its a thing with us

helluva trip, but always worth it...

[caughtagain]

OG CA... YOu live in the land of the Hobbit.... Would love to see it some day. A bucketlister for sure.

[shadowwally]

OG CA... YOu live in the land of the Hobbit.... Would love to see it some day. A bucketlister for sure.

I'm all in for that being on my bucket list!

[caughtagain]

I think Azul is a Hobbit... Right now he is Muscle Hobbit I feel a Photoshop coming on... Bazinga

[dougy]

I been looking at tickets for my wife and kids. Most of them are like this ..First flight is from here to Chicago 1hr 20min.. Then Chicago to Tokyo 14hrs. Then from Tokyo to Bangkok.. 6hrs .. Then from Bangkok to Chaig rai .. 2hrs with lay overs and such.. any where from 24 to 36 hours. uggggg. but once your there nothing like it, beauty and the best street food in the world. mmm mmmm. Cheeky you have it right.. Long and nerve racking but once you done it nothing like it. Things you can learn from traveling .. The people you meet and how it seems no matter what or where we come from we are so much a like.. in so many ways.
I all so realize how very good I do have here in the states. I don't take it for granted anymore. Its far from being the best place and can better in many ways, but after seeing places like Laos and Burma{myanmar} --- It's a shame the way some are forced to have to live.

Thanks peeps.. God Bless.

[Anonymous]

Hi, my name is koubis and i been readin all ur threads and i see that robert knows what he is doing. ROBERT! if u can see this please help me! i want to get off heroin so bad. im a 20 year old asian american (i am hmong), and i have a 3 month old daughter, i want my life back. please reply. im new to this site and how it works but i will learn it.

[Anonymous]

glad you are able to take the dose down. You must realize suboxone is (NO JOKE) 50X STRONGER than morphine...Did you know that? I was a gram to two gram a day heroin user and was able to go straight on 1 pill of 8mg suboxone a day with little to no discomfort after only 2 days of introducing the drug into my system. And i've never heard a doctor prescribing THIS much at one time. Be very careful and remember, doctors are not all knowing. After all, its the same doctors who at the turn of the century came up with this miracle drug, HEROIN....which was originally designed to fight morphine addiction...

Hey NHP, i read that you used to be a heroin user, well unfortunately i am a user myself and i have had it with my problem. how did you start tapering yourself off? where did u start off at? i started readin threads on this site and i feel that hopefully someone on here is willing to help me... ROBERT IF U CAN SEE THIS PLEASE REPLY TO ME! HELP IS MUCH NEEDED!

[Robert_325]

I been looking at tickets for my wife and kids. Most of them are like this ..First flight is from here to Chicago 1hr 20min.. Then Chicago to Tokyo 14hrs. Then from Tokyo to Bangkok.. 6hrs .. Then from Bangkok to Chaig rai .. 2hrs with lay overs and such.. any where from 24 to 36 hours. uggggg. but once your there nothing like it, beauty and the best street food in the world. mmm mmmm. Cheeky you have it right.. Long and nerve racking but once you done it nothing like it. Things you can learn from traveling .. The people you meet and how it seems no matter what or where we come from we are so much a like.. in so many ways.
I all so realize how very good I do have here in the states. I don't take it for granted anymore. Its far from being the best place and can better in many ways, but after seeing places like Laos and Burma{myanmar} --- It's a shame the way some are forced to have to live.

Thanks peeps.. God Bless.

Dougy ... how many days have you been at 6mg? Just checking on you and making sure all is well. Can I do anything to help you, I've been away for the most part a few days. God bless.

[dougy]

Today is my 3rd day.. I started on Sunday morning .. Yesterday was busy.. I was off from work, but had to go to the Dr;s and a Friend of mine who passed away late Friday , early Saturday. Had the service's last night and was buried this morning.. He was very good guy lots for friends and family. He suffered for a bit.. He had cancer, I think most people know how that goes..
Well as far as me and the subs.. I"m doing great.. feel better each day.
How much longer should I stay at 6mg? I was just wondering
Thanks for the Concern
God Bless.

[Robert_325]

Today is my 3rd day.. I started on Sunday morning .. Yesterday was busy.. I was off from work, but had to go to the Dr;s and a Friend of mine who passed away late Friday , early Saturday. Had the service's last night and was buried this morning.. He was very good guy lots for friends and family. He suffered for a bit.. He had cancer, I think most people know how that goes..
Well as far as me and the subs.. I"m doing great.. feel better each day.
How much longer should I stay at 6mg? I was just wondering
Thanks for the Concern
God Bless.

You've done so well that I think maybe another day, or two days at the most. Then we can drop to 4mg to keep it simple. It will help keep the future reductions easier for you than reducing to 4.5mg too. I know that I said maybe a week, but you have eaten this up. I think you should do four days and then do the next drop if you feel up to it. Let's get this done! God bless.

[radruss54]

hey Dougy. Day 3, that's awesome. Just wanted say I think what your doing is great. I too think Family is everything. I hope I do as well as you're doing. Take Care

Russ

[dougy]

Sorry for not posting in while. One of Brother's inlaw's has taken very ill. We are all very very close. Between working nigh turn this week and going to the Hospital and all, been very very busy. I Dropped down to 5mg yesterday and today I'm going to take 4mg . 2mg in the morning 2mg in the afternoon.
I'm doing pretty good. Had a strong strong craving yesterday.
I think it had to do with the setting and things that were going on around me. more then anything else. My brother is going through a hard time, He has to help with the hospice and all that goes with that, so I'm trying to help out as much as I can too.
Don't think I'll be posting allot in teh next few days.. I'm off Sunday anb Monday.. Post more then for sure.
I think I'm doing pretty good so far.. I feel normal except for some bouts of sweating witch are very few and far between and that craving at the hosptial yesterday.. I been doing great.
Well thanks everyone and God bless.

[radruss54]

Hang in there. You got this beat. Sorry to here about your brother-in-law. Hope things work out. My prayers are with you.

[dougy]

Well I'm off for a couple of days. Been doing pretty good as far a my subs go.. On 4mg now.. been have some pretty good bouts of sweating here and there,, but been doing pretty good over all.
I been coming down with a pretty good chest cold though. I have been having trouble breathing and coughing seems like it's getting worse instead of better too. My brothers Father in law is in very very poor condition too, probably won't make it through the week.
I'm going to have to go to the Dr.s to get something for this chest cold.. I even woke up this afternoon with a bit of a fever...
I just hope I can get over this chest cold or get something to help me get through the next week or so.
I have a feeling this is going to be stressful week to say the least. I feel so bad about my brothers , father in law.. What a nice man.. He's up there in age but was sharp as tack until his cancer spread, He stopped eating and drinking last night.. Can't hold anything down. Been praying for him..
Well I'm going to get something to eat. Then head to the hospital for a bit..
Everyone take care and God Bless.

[GOLDA55]

How are you doing, have been reading some of your threads and really hope you are keeping up with everything. I went to a detox center after tapering from 150 mg of oxy to 50mg of oxy, they gave me a small amount of methadone to help with withdrawals, and that took me longer to get off of than the 50 of oxy. I feel that getting clean is hard enough, but I think that w/d's are harder off of methadone, or subs, than maybe the origingal addiction. I am not that experienced and whatever works for someone is good. If you read my threads you will see my circumstances. By the way, I did order the herb Posinol to try and see if it helps with my energy,,I am almost 60 days clean of everything..Stay strong..Golda (grandma)

[ClassiqueMom]

Well I'm off for a couple of days. Been doing pretty good as far a my subs go.. On 4mg now.. been have some pretty good bouts of sweating here and there,, but been doing pretty good over all.
I been coming down with a pretty good chest cold though. I have been having trouble breathing and coughing seems like it's getting worse instead of better too. My brothers Father in law is in very very poor condition too, probably won't make it through the week.
I'm going to have to go to the Dr.s to get something for this chest cold.. I even woke up this afternoon with a bit of a fever...
I just hope I can get over this chest cold or get something to help me get through the next week or so.
I have a feeling this is going to be stressful week to say the least. I feel so bad about my brothers , father in law.. What a nice man.. He's up there in age but was sharp as tack until his cancer spread, He stopped eating and drinking last night.. Can't hold anything down. Been praying for him..
Well I'm going to get something to eat. Then head to the hospital for a bit..
Everyone take care and God Bless.

Dougy..

i am sorry for you and your family's sorrow..

i lost my mom this year, and my husband lost his dad..
it's such a sad sad thing to go thru..

take care of you.. and keep praying..

Classique MoM

[radruss54]

Hey Dougy. stay well and take care. God Bless you and your family.

My doc gave clonidine .1mg had no sweats. took up to 3 but you really gotta watch your blood pressure. mine went down only once to 87/67 best guess. I have a wrist bp taker. I ate a good salty ham sandwhich and pinapple for desert w/half a hershey bar and in 2 hours it was normal, thank God!!
So maybe ask doc if its right for you.

God Bless and I'll be here, as i'm sure everyone will, whenever you get back to posting
This is a tough time, stay strong! you're mind does funny things in times of stress,but I think you are a strong person with great willpower.
Russ



I am not a doctor and you should consult your physcian before doing anything in this post

[radruss54]

checkin in bro. U ok?

God Bless
Russ

[need_help_plz]

Hey NHP, i read that you used to be a heroin user, well unfortunately i am a user myself and i have had it with my problem. how did you start tapering yourself off? where did u start off at? i started readin threads on this site and i feel that hopefully someone on here is willing to help me... ROBERT IF U CAN SEE THIS PLEASE REPLY TO ME! HELP IS MUCH NEEDED!

Hey, sorry didnt see this sooner.....I have been H user for 7 years, and to start off i went on subutex to help with minute by minute cravings throughout a day. I started off with 8 mg a day, but like many here can contest to i did also cheat by using heroin again and again(on the weekends) throughout my subutex treatment, but now i just made up my mind and stoped altogether. first tapering off subutex to 1 mg a day, to 1mg every other day, to none in the past 10 days. I still have no sleep watsoever, getting only momentary minutes of rest(not sleep) when im either in a hot bath, or after a large meal.( it takes about 20 min after a sizable meal for me to start to feel all warm and cozy and wanting to drift off...And just when u think u did it u look at the clock and see that only 10 to 15 minutes have past and u still wide awake, only more tired and groggy. BTW i take benadryl to help me sleep, but it doesnt work, just makes you more groggy. I dunno what else to try or do, but since it has been 10 days since my last opiate intake, im sure it will only be maybe a week more at most....At least thats what im hoping for