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[MetalDuckMFC]

Your mind is completely made up then, Nobby. We're ALL unhelpful assholes, and FORCED Peter to leave, and you CLEARLY know him better than the rest of us, so we are all worthless, awful people. Nothing comes from this forum, because none of us care, right?

Whatever, done with this thread. In all actuality, you have no clue what you're talking about.

[ARTIST658]

There are cliques, there always are and I don't mean that in a bad way. I must have hit a nerve to get such a nasty response on a board that is supposed to help people. Clearly the post by Artist was playing into exactly what peter wanted and then the posts after that were by others who think the same way. Artist was frustrated and I pointed that out because I thought it wasn't a very constructive post and I got bashed all over for saying it. So again I must have hit a huge nerve and now I am being asshole? I don't think so. I think my post could have been worded better as not to upset those who wrote long posts bashing me. I posted a simple little paragraph and I got huge long posts bashing me for my simple little paragraph. I don't find that comforting at all in a forum like this. Those posts bashing me were unneeded and totally over the top with assumptions against my character based on a simple little paragraph. I don't get it at all

Nobby - You come to this thread/conversation with Peter mid-stream, interrupt a serious discussion between people you don't know, who have a long history between them - and decide to make a snap judgement and spew a few barbs. Then, after, when folks react to your judgements and bashing - you come back with the "I'm so innocent and I meant nothing by it" attitude. "I posted a simple little paragraph" ??? And you wonder why folks react? You can't fire a gun - then back off and sweetly say, "Oh I didn't mean it quite like thaaatt..." with a shy, innocent little smile... it doesn't wash.

You were needlessly rude and presumptuous, not ever-so-innocently suggesting I ignore Peter and let it go. You presumed behaviors that were completely untrue - claiming I was "baiting and frustrated with him..." You also referred to me as "a frustrated addiction specialist (or whatever Ruth is, I am not sure)." You came on strong, you came on judgemental and when confronted, you backed off from the heat of your comments, minimizing how ever-so-innocent and simple your li'l post had been.

Besides, the length of my response was a reaction to the entire thread's blow-up because I stood up to Peter and confronted his behavior. Someone else had already made a post that slammed me - and was deleted, so i couldn't very well address them. But I was addressing the entire stream of critiques and criticisms from folks who didn't appreciate the history involved.

You said, "Those posts bashing me were unneeded and totally over the top with assumptions against my character based on a simple little paragraph. I don't get it at all." I certainly never said a thing about your character; it was you who engaged in the personal bashing of my line of work, presuming I had ulterior motives and deceitful tactics to target someone. In fact, there was nothing in my lengthy post that insulted you at all.

And you wonder, after that choice of words about me, why it took me a number of paragraphs to respond?

[Ken 09]

I have read the entire thread and would like to offer my opinion. The theme for the thread seems to have changed from the op (peter) to an evaluation and critique of the tone, style, motive, and methodology of communication on the board. In general, I think there's nothing wrong with that, i think it can be a healthy endeavor to self examine methods and agendas. But let us not lose sight of the the big picture, the reason you're all here, its not just to help Peter, its to help ALL the Peters. All the people who are reading this thread and learning and identifying. The people at the beginning of the journey, like sponges soaking up information, but to scared to raise their hands. These folks should be thought of as well. These folks, me, cannot begin or properly express the gratitude that we (I) have for the Ruth's and Robert's, et al who share their time, wisdom, and unwavering compassion. So, while some may think the words being spoke here are falling on deaf ears, I disagree, I think there's a lot of people listening to every word. Obviously, the posters here have a genuine concern for Peter, as well as?other sick and suffering, and i think they're entitled to express some human emotions every now and then.

[MaisieC]

Peter,

I think Cheeky is right and that you're probably still lurking and reading this thread. If so, I think it would be the decent thing for you to do to come back on and post your support of Ruth, in light of the hijacking of this thread. She's done a lot for you, and you've said often how much you appreciate it. It would be nice for you to do something for her and put this thing to rest.

Hope you're doing OK.

Thanks,
Maisie

[shadowwally]

I have read the entire thread and would like to offer my opinion. The theme for the thread seems to have changed from the op (peter) to an evaluation and critique of the tone, style, motive, and methodology of communication on the board. In general, I think there's nothing wrong with that, i think it can be a healthy endeavor to self examine methods and agendas. But let us not lose sight of the the big picture, the reason you're all here, its not just to help Peter, its to help ALL the Peters. All the people who are reading this thread and learning and identifying. The people at the beginning of the journey, like sponges soaking up information, but to scared to raise their hands. These folks should be thought of as well. These folks, me, cannot begin or properly express the gratitude that we (I) have for the Ruth's and Robert's, et al who share their time, wisdom, and unwavering compassion. So, while some may think the words being spoke here are falling on deaf ears, I disagree, I think there's a lot of people listening to every word. Obviously, the posters here have a genuine concern for Peter, as well as?other sick and suffering, and i think they're entitled to express some human emotions every now and then.

Ken....
You are very correct in realizing how wonderful the people on this forum are!
I also know I avidly read all threads through the endless nights of no sleep.
I'd like to add to what Cheeky mentioned about pain levels.
Now that I'm off fent patches for several months, I have LESS pain than ever.
It was here, in this forum, that I learned opiates cause pain.
Just thought I'd mention that. I know many others have found this true as well.
Pain is so often the start of addiction, but pain relief is certainly not what you end up with in the end for many.
Marian

[Justjules]

I've read a bit of Peters posts. What exactly did he lie about that made him feel he needed to leave this group? You sound like a intelligent group of people and I'm sure you all know that drug addiction and the shame of it causes some to be less than truthful. He seemed like such a nice guy. My understanding of his situation was he was a cronic pain patient/addict who was maintaining on 10mg methadone a day. Was that a problem he felt he needed to lie about? I don't understand why he left. I enjoyed his writing style.
J

[caughtagain]

Is this Peter? what is "your story"... or did you just come on to an addiction website for giggles.... Sorry, but that lil bunny rabbit Peter Pi$$ed many off. How can we help you... When I saw Peter's thread come up, my first response was gutteral. All my best, Reid

[ComingHome]

Sometimes it's best to let sleeping dogs lie.

I'll leave it at that.

[caughtagain]

or, in this case, Rabbits

[ARTIST658]

JustJules - why Peter left is an question only Peter can answer. It was Peter's decision. No one made him leave. If you're that curious, you can certainly go through the history of Peter's posts - and read through the details of the lengthy saga.

I find it, um, remarkable that you stumbled across a thread from nearly a year ago... then found reason to sign up for this site and make this one post. Peter's done the same before. That's what we suspect that "JustJules" is JUST Peter - again.

[Robert_325]

Ruth, Reid, et al ... I pray it isn't Peter being someone else again. I don't think I could stand it, I would have to sign off for the day! I've had about all the whining and complaining on here for one week that I can handle.

Thank God I have church tomorrow, even teaching a Bible study class before church now! That always makes me feel so much better after listening to so much nonsense like we've seen the last few days! God bless.

[MaisieC]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

[caughtagain]

@Robert..... Word