Freaked out about taper now

[marilynj55]

I made a mistake and spent a couple hours this morning reading (on another forum, actually) about how awful the last bit of a taper from suboxone is, "worst thing in the world," "worse than heroin," etc. Freaked myself out and started thinking, why did I even sign up for suboxone? I could have just as easily tapered off methadone, from what it sounds like.

Henry's been helping me with my taper. I started out fine, then the junkie in me jumped out on two separate occasions when I was down to 2.25 and before I knew it, for days in a row (maybe six, seven) I'd be taking 8 mg. and more of sub. So now I don't even know if I'm a candidate for a taper, since I appear to be a relapser.

However, now that I'm so scared by the horror stories, maybe that is enough to scare me straight this time.

So I'm starting the taper again. Starting at 4 mg.

But WHY do some posters (and I'm not faulting them for being honest) describe the jump off at a very, very low dose as almost unbearable?

Why should I think I can accomplish this, coward and relapser that I am?

I am so discouraged!

I even thought maybe at the end of the sub taper, I could go on a quick methadone detox, like 30 days or something, just so I wouldn't have to go through the sub withdrawal that is supposed to be so awful.

Just rambling thoughts.

Thanks for listening.

[azul diablo]

Don't give in to all the negativity. Who knows, you may just be one of the easy ones! There have been a few highly documented cases on here where they told everything that happened to them in detail and they had little to no problem. Don't poison your mind with negative thoughts, just wait and see! You may very well be pleasantly surprised. I am going to do everyone a favor and bump a thread of an old friend who did it the right way and hardly struggled at all. Her name is Winged Eagle and she was a shining example of what can be done and is still clean to this day. So just don't worry and take things day by day. But please understand, you absolutely have to want this!

[Denny_D]

I made a mistake and spent a couple hours this morning reading (on another forum, actually) about how awful the last bit of a taper from suboxone is, "worst thing in the world," "worse than heroin," etc. Freaked myself out and started thinking, why did I even sign up for suboxone? I could have just as easily tapered off methadone, from what it sounds like.

Henry's been helping me with my taper. I started out fine, then the junkie in me jumped out on two separate occasions when I was down to 2.25 and before I knew it, for days in a row (maybe six, seven) I'd be taking 8 mg. and more of sub. So now I don't even know if I'm a candidate for a taper, since I appear to be a relapser.

However, now that I'm so scared by the horror stories, maybe that is enough to scare me straight this time.

So I'm starting the taper again. Starting at 4 mg.

But WHY do some posters (and I'm not faulting them for being honest) describe the jump off at a very, very low dose as almost unbearable?

Why should I think I can accomplish this, coward and relapser that I am?

I am so discouraged!

I even thought maybe at the end of the sub taper, I could go on a quick methadone detox, like 30 days or something, just so I wouldn't have to go through the sub withdrawal that is supposed to be so awful.

Just rambling thoughts.

Thanks for listening.

Marilyn ..... I was one of the addicts that had no problem at all while I tapered. It really was easy for me to do.

I abused Narcotics, Opiates, and everything else for over 35 years and used Suboxone to get clean. I followed Robert's plan and got clean now for going on nearly 4 months.

Some people really do have problems, but I don't believe it's that terrible. Some that have been on the Subs for 5 years or more may have a more difficult time, but again I don't think it's anything you can't handle.

Just do yourself a favor and continue with your taper and reductions and see for yourself. Then you can report exactly what you find to be true. Just reduce your current dose by 25% every 4 days or so. I'm sure Henry will help you again if you ask him to.

I want to wish you the very best with your efforts to get clean. I'll be here on and off as I'm recovering from a recent surgery. I will help you as much as I can if you wish me to. Just let me know. God Bless....Denny

[freedom11]

Hi Marilyn; just to let you know I am on day 29 following sub taper and honestly it is peanuts compared to going CT and the time it takes gave me opportunity to get my head around being off my drug of choice (heroin).. Went from heroin, to methadone to subs. My big thing when i went cold turkey a few times was the throwing up nothing and months of leaded suit. ALthough had days when lethargic, tired, (but also did on methadone) think i only had about one day leaded suit. People on this site have been brilliant cos they tell you what helped them eg music, exercise, so during the taper you prepare yourself physically and I did. It's been emotionally up and down but that's mainly cos of emotions being submerged for so long cos of opieates and cos of the fallout (chaos) I created from my h habit. ALso it's changing a lifestyle so change in friends etc takes time. Anyway, wanted to give you positive message. I have written lots of detail in my 'diary' which others might not have written; I hope mine isn't one that put you off. I certainly recommend the subs taper alongside the support and friends here ready to cheer lead. Love Jay xx
PS I tried tapering off of meth myself and got down to 4ml a day (couldn't get myself any lower) before going on subs. Meth withdrawal is even worse than heroin and that's bad enough.

[marilynj55]

[QUOTE=freedom11;338903] I hope mine isn't one that put you off. I certainly recommend the subs taper alongside the support and friends here ready to cheer lead. Love Jay xx

Jay, just wanted to let you know yours was one of the ones that cheered me, and I loved ther pseronal touch, "Love Jay XX."

And thank you so much everybody for reminding me there are people every day that do this successfully.

This forum rocks.

Marilyn

[storm1979]

I wanted to jump in and yell u not to listen to the negative commentary about subs. I followed Rivets taper plan and experienced little to Zero effects of coming off subs. Now not everone will experience the exact results. But I van tell u that I was scared too and hesitant to beloved that I could get off subs. With faith and proper instructions I have my life back. You can do this, just be preparied to be confident and determined. God bless