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    Hey, I'm knew here and I need some advice. I have really bad anxiety and panic attacks almost on a daily basis. I'm currently prescribed 15mg Buspirone and have been taking it for several months, with absolutely no effect. In fact, it seems like my anxiety has gotten worse since I've started taking it. I really want to be prescribed xanax or another benzo, because honestly, those are the only things that have ever helped me. The thing is, I'm young, just turned 18, and I was wondering if I even had a shot at a doctor prescribing me xanax, valium, klonopin, ativan, etc. The biggest problem is that I have a history of drug abuse, but have been clean for over 2 and a half years, but still have a terrible anxiety problem that grows worse every day. My current doctor won't prescribe me any benzo, because he knows about my drug problems in the past, but do you guys think any other doctors will? I just want to let you know, I've done a lot of research on xanax, and know all of the side effects and how horribly addicting/how bad the withdrawals are. I've actually gone through really bad alcohol withdrawals when I was younger and never thought I would get over that. But considering all of that, I think I would be better of with xanax, because my anxiety is simply ruining my life. I can hardly leave my house any more it's so bad. I feel like everyone is looking at me funny, I feel so nervous and scared when I do anything. When I'm driving down the street, I'm always afraid that I'm going to have a blowout or another car is going to swerve into my lane and hit me head on. I can't even look people in the eyes anymore I feel so scared. My heart is always pounding, which makes me think im about to have a heart attack, and it feels like there's someone stabbing me in my lungs and I'm scared to even take a breath. It's gotten too bad, that I really just want to die. I don't want to kill my self, but I feel like I'm going crazy with panic, and simply can't cope with it any longer. I don't know what to do. (sorry for such a long post, I just really need some help right now)

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    sorry, does this need to be posted in the "Featured Conditions" forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibreathespears View Post
    sorry, does this need to be posted in the "Featured Conditions" forum?



    Your post is just fine where it is. To be quite honest the reason your dr has prescribed the buspar is that he/she doesn't want you on benzos. You are too young to get off into a benzo addiction. Take it from someone who spent over 25 years there. Buspar is NOT going to affect you like a benzo and you're not supposed to feel the effects of buspar. It never once made me feel a thing when I took it.

    I am not questioning whether or not you are suffering from anxiety. There are other medications besides benzos that you can take for anxiety that are better for an 18 year old. I would talk to a psychiatrist rather than a family dr first of all. Get with the dr who is a specialist in this field.

    I will not recommend you seeing a dr that will RX xanax or any other benzo for you with the information you've provided. If you want something that will help see the right dr. But no way you should go in asking for benzos. Good luck and God bless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert_325 View Post
    Your post is just fine where it is. To be quite honest the reason your dr has prescribed the buspar is that he/she doesn't want you on benzos. You are too young to get off into a benzo addiction. Take it from someone who spent over 25 years there. Buspar is NOT going to affect you like a benzo and you're not supposed to feel the effects of buspar. It never once made me feel a thing when I took it.

    I am not questioning whether or not you are suffering from anxiety. There are other medications besides benzos that you can take for anxiety that are better for an 18 year old. I would talk to a psychiatrist rather than a family dr first of all. Get with the dr who is a specialist in this field.

    I will not recommend you seeing a dr that will RX xanax or any other benzo for you with the information you've provided. If you want something that will help see the right dr. But no way you should go in asking for benzos. Good luck and God bless.
    Ok, thank you for your time. The thing is, I've researched any kind of anti-anxiety medication I can find, and nothing seems to show prominent results, besides benzodiazepines. I no longer want to get "messed up," or anything like that, but I want to feel alright again and I haven't for years. I even noticed a few years ago, when I still had drug abuse problems, my friends would start taking bars to get messed up, and I would take maybe half of a xanax bar or a quarter, just because I felt normal when I did. I honestly never enjoyed taking large amounts of xanax, because I would not remember anything when I did.

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    I was first prescribed celexa and buspar and these meds did not work for me. I was changed to Effexor XR with Imovane for sleeping and it worked for me. My doctor did not want me to go on anything either due to my addictive behaviour patterns. I don't have the answers for you but there are so many meds out there...you must keep talking to your doctor and find something that is right for you for your symptoms taking into account your past addictive behaviour too. There must be something out there that will help you. I wish you the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibreathespears View Post
    Ok, thank you for your time. The thing is, I've researched any kind of anti-anxiety medication I can find, and nothing seems to show prominent results, besides benzodiazepines. I no longer want to get "messed up," or anything like that, but I want to feel alright again and I haven't for years. I even noticed a few years ago, when I still had drug abuse problems, my friends would start taking bars to get messed up, and I would take maybe half of a xanax bar or a quarter, just because I felt normal when I did. I honestly never enjoyed taking large amounts of xanax, because I would not remember anything when I did.


    Kelkat is correct. There are other medications that can be prescribed that would be effective. I understand your dilemna but be grateful you have a dr who seems to care about you rather than just loading you up on something that is probably not what you need. I am not a dr. You should see a specialist in this field as suggested. There are medications that would be appropriate for your condition, age, using history, etc. God bless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkat View Post
    I was first prescribed celexa and buspar and these meds did not work for me. I was changed to Effexor XR with Imovane for sleeping and it worked for me. My doctor did not want me to go on anything either due to my addictive behaviour patterns. I don't have the answers for you but there are so many meds out there...you must keep talking to your doctor and find something that is right for you for your symptoms taking into account your past addictive behaviour too. There must be something out there that will help you. I wish you the best.
    I was actually prescribed Celexa for depression a while back, too. Didn't seem to help anything. I haven't tried Effexor yet, but I will definitely look into it before asking my doctor for benzos. Thanks for your help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert_325 View Post
    Kelkat is correct. There are other medications that can be prescribed that would be effective. I understand your dilemna but be grateful you have a dr who seems to care about you rather than just loading you up on something that is probably not what you need. I am not a dr. You should see a specialist in this field as suggested. There are medications that would be appropriate for your condition, age, using history, etc. God bless.
    Thank you. I'm definitely going to check out my other options before trying to get benzos. I'm just afraid that nothing else will work, because I've gone through a lot of different medications for depression and anxiety, and haven't gotten any good results. But if I do try more medications for my anxiety, and none of them work, do you think I even CAN get prescribed xanax or klonopin or something? I mean considering my age and all. I don't think other doctors will have any ways of knowing my past drug abuse, though. I'm just afraid of living the rest of my life the way it is now, and with the amount of stress I feel every day, it will be a short one.

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    Ibreathespears,
    Robert and kelkat are correct, there are other options. Also, Robert gave you some great advice about going to a specialist for your anxiety. Doctors are great to have around, but you wouldn't go to a general practitioner if you really needed a cardiologist, right? I think you'd be better off going to see specialist because he/she will be better informed about other options. And for the record, Robert also was right about not being dead-set on a med and going in asking for that one specific med if you have a history of drug abuse. I've heard doctors say that is the biggest reason why the won't prescribe that specific med because the patient seems fixated on only a particular one. Good luck to you and welcome to a great place with lots of info and advice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibreathespears View Post
    I was actually prescribed Celexa for depression a while back, too. Didn't seem to help anything. I haven't tried Effexor yet, but I will definitely look into it before asking my doctor for benzos. Thanks for your help
    Hello, O.K. a couple of things here. Everyone is right about not asking for a specific anti-anxiety with your history however, if you ask your doctor if there is an anti-anxiety med better suited to panic (even though you know there is) he may bring it up on his own and prescribe. If you are doubtfull then, you should see a psychologist for med management and they WILL prescribe a benzo! Second, if the primary problem is anxiety/ panic attacks you may not be well served by taking an SNRI such as effexor..SNRI's can be very stimulating to panic sufferers. Personaly, I would stick to an SSRI (omitting zoloft and prozac, they are BAD for panic) or a tryciclic. Third, with a history of drug use I HIGHLY RECCOMEND that you have your TSH levels checked, especially considering your age. It is rather common for people of your age to experience thyroid disfunction after repeated drug use as you are still developing hormonaly. Ask your doctor to check your thyroid. If you have a thyroid disfunction (this is a very common condition) It can mimic mild to extreme anxiety. I personaly know 4 people who were misdiagnosed with panic disorder and later found that their thyroid was overactive which caused the anxiety and panic. It is always a good idea to rule out any other possible cause.....Peace....ERin

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    I dissagree. If nothing else works than regardless of your past drug addiction, I think benzos like Xanax are still a good choice.

    The question is, do you now have your braking system intact?

    Can you stick to less than 2Mgs a day just for your anxiety. The goal with Benzos for anxiety is to just take enough to curb the anxiety and NOT to get high.

    If you can not control yourself then obviously a Benzo is a bad idea.

    Most doctors IMO are way too afrade of this addiction issue. Not because they are concerned about our health or welfare, but simply because they don't want to be liable for addicting anyone. This is just their own self preservation at work, not your best interest.

    My advice would be to dump that narrow minded doctor that doesn't trust you and find one that does. Do yourself a favor and don't mention the past addiction issue with the new doctor.

    I'm sick and tired of doctors that think they know everything. They don't know everything.

    benzos are much less addicting than other drugs that are Opiate based. benzos do not bind to Opiate receptors in the brain.

    This issue with addiction and prescription meds is crazy logic. I take 2 different antidepressant meds that the FDA does not consider "addictive."

    Humm let me see, If I stop them I get horrible mental and strong physical withdrawl symptoms and I will also feel like garbage because my depression will return. Is this not addictive?

    In my book that sounds a hell of a lot like addiction. You can slice it anyway you like, but in the end it just another form of addiction.

    My meds make me feel normal. If for example my antidepressant meds were illigal, would I resort to illigal means to accuire them? Yea, I probably would. Is that not addiction?

    Just look at Tramadol for example. It is Opiate based and has been around since the 70's. The FDA does not have it sanctioned as a controled substance, yet Xanax (alprazolam) is a controled substance.

    The logic is bizzar because everyone know's that Tramadol is way more addictive than Xanax. Don't even get me started on the silly logic that the medical establishment uses to justify what is addictive and what is not.

    Did you know that drug studies around the world state that only 3% of people that use Opiate pain medications are addicts? It's true. Just 3% yet the medical establishment will have you think that anyone that takes a medication like Vicotin or codine is an addict and doomed to addiction.

    Rubbish! In many countries Opiates are used responsibly by millions of people that do not fall pray to addiction. Sheee quiet! The FDA and DEA don't want you to know this info. Opiates and benzos are bad don't you know!

    They are unjustly demonized by our culture because of total ignorance. Not because of real data.

    Hate to tell you dude, but your doctor could give a ******************** about your health or progress. he or she is only interested in protecting his or herself from any potential legal entanglements.

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    Well, benzos are one thing that I never had trouble controlling, considering I never liked to take large amounts, while all of my friends wanted to do exactly that. I can't say the same for most other drugs, but xanax and klonopins helped my anxiety tremendously when I would take smaller doses. I still don't want to jump right into benzos, before I try all of the other options that I can find. I was under the impression that I would be more likely to get prescribed benzos from a regular doctor, rather than going to a psychiatrist, because I would have to tell them my history of drug abuse, and they would more than likely not want to risk their own ass, thinking I would become an addict. If in the future I do decide to go for benzo's, I'm not going to just ask them for xanax or something. But suggest that my friend or someone close to me, was taking klonopin or something similar for anxiety, and it helped him a lot. Is this a bad idea? I also don't have health insurance, so I don't want to have to go from doctor to doctor trying to get prescribed a benzo, when I know all of the other meds won't help (Not saying I know they won't, but everyone I've tried so far has done nothing) I'll also look into that thyroid problem, but the only thing is that I had anxiety when I was really young, before I did any drugs. I just didn't know what anxiety was, I just knew I panicked all of the time about little things and always felt scared for seemingly no reason.

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    Do yourself a huge favor and stay away from benzos. Please.

    I was only on Xanax a short time and I was taking less that 1.00 mg. a day. I am getting over the. rebound now. It stinks. Do not go there.

    Stay away, away, away from benzos.

    Trust me

    I came off pain meds like morphine with less trouble than I'm having with coming off the Xanax. I'm 56 years old, and in 56 years I've never had a worse time than coming off Xanax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoebe_Twayblade View Post
    Do yourself a huge favor and stay away from benzos. Please.

    I was only on Xanax a short time and I was taking less that 1.00 mg. a day. I am getting over the. rebound now. It stinks. Do not go there.

    Stay away, away, away from benzos.

    Trust me

    I came off pain meds like morphine with less trouble than I'm having with coming off the Xanax. I'm 56 years old, and in 56 years I've never had a worse time than coming off Xanax.



    WE are the same age and I spent over 25 years on benzos. I nearly DIED coming off. The problem is that kids are getting advice from other kids here. Erin who posted above has forgot as much about anxiety problems as these kids will ever know. You have been through it, I have been through it. But kids are going to do what they are going to do. I just hope he doesn't turn 50 trying to get off xanax, valium, klonopin all at the same time going through seizures, electric shock syndrome and in a nut house like I did. Believe me it isn't funny and I can guarantee that. Oh yeah benzos are not very addicting and they are good for what ails ya. Give me a freakin break. Good luck kids. God bless. You will likely need it. And stopping pain meds is nothing like benzos. They are for real I promise you.

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    Robert - you are making me shake my head in recognition. I think we have about 100 years between us coming off benzos.

    Young people seem to think benzos are like candy. They are just about the worst drug out there.

    I've seen kids pop Xanax and Valium as if they are jelly beans.

    There is a misconception that this is safe.

    Too soon old, too late smart.

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    it sounds like you are putting yourself in a panic just wanting that one med! I do understand I have had anxiety issues since I was very young starting at 16 and much younger due to abuse but at 16 I was on my own and had to deal then with my issues. I am currently supposed to be taking buspar since I can not take my xanax while on suboxone. It doesnt help at all it makes it worse so I dont take it BUT thats no reason to jump in head first! I was 1st perscribed paxil and it helped alot after a few years it was supplemented with .5mg ativan the dose on ativan went up after a few more years then switched to xanax as a last resort! after ten years my paxil no longer worked this was the reason for the switch to xanax. xanax is the most easily abused benzo out there. quick to hit and short acting so you feel you must take more. you have even thought about dr shopping I think if your DOC was alchol benzos are a horrible Idea as the buzz is similar. You need a theripst and a phyciatrist Yes most dont perscribe benzos easily thats the point though. your not supposed to try them 1st also I would try alternitive medicine along with meds under dr supervision. not enough can be said about deep breathing even though it may sood crazy TRY IT aslo yoga, acupucture, and a good massage are great tools in the fight against anxiety. I am dependant on benzos and right now they arent an option but Im making it work... so can you at least until all other options are exhasted and that should take years.. you sound determined that this is the only thing that will help you and that is not the state of mind to be in it will just cause more anxiety be open to all your options there are many... good luck and think hard before you act your decsion WILL change your life!!!!!!
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    I completely respect all of your opinions about benzos, and can tell Robert and Phoebe know what they are talking about. But believe me, I know about how bad withdrawals can be. Not from xanax, but from alcohol, and I had a seizure when I was withdrawing from alcohol a few years ago. My problems go deeper than just anxiety though. I'm bipolar and schizophrenic, and all of the meds I've gotten for that (such as depakote ER and Geodon 40mg) didn't help much at all. But benzos help that as well. When I take a low dose of xanax, I feel sane again. I feel like I can actually live my life, and my mind doesn't go out of control with crazy, scary thoughts. I understand in a typical case, no person my age should be taking klonopin or xanax, but this isn't a typical case. I feel like I'm going crazier every day, and I can't even go anywhere without most people looking at me funny or trying to avoid walking anywhere near me, because it shows. I'm not some kid looking to get messed up and I am strongly against taking large amounts of benzos, because through the years I've seen people do absolutely crazy things. I just want to feel alright again, and nothing else seems to do that. I would rather take all of the risks of xanax regulary, and be able to live my life, rather than confine myself to my house and lose my mind more and more every day. My auditory and visual halucinations are getting pretty bad. And I'm not going to lie, I'm pretty damn scared right now. Back when I still took xanax recreationally (2 or more years ago) my hallucinations were still pretty bad and all of that would go away when I took benzos and I could still function in every day life. With anti-psychotics on the other hand, I could hardly do anything. Sorry to ramble on, but I just want it to be made clear, I'm not some immature kid, looking to get prescribed something so I can get "high." I'm trying to get a grip on my life again, and it isn't happening the way things are going now. I've talked to a lot of doctors, and even went to a mental institution for a little while, and told them about my hallucinations/anxiety problems, and I'm starting to get sick of being prescribed medicine that doesn't work. Maybe it helps other peoples, but after going through so many medications, none have helped me in the least.

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    I understand how debilitating anxiety. I have has seizures, migraines, suicidal depression and panic attacks so disabling that I have had to be carted away in an ambulance. I have chronic depression and insomnia. There are medications I have to take to remain functional, and my drug usage is closely monitored by medical professionals who understand addiction.

    I am really sorry I ever got involved with benzos. If you can avoid taking them, don't do it. I call Xanax "the devil's chemistry set."

    There are doctors who treat anxiety and depression without using benzos. It is worth the time to find them.

    My hand on a bible, I would not wish benzo withdrawal on my worst enemy.

    Take care of yourself and be well.

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