End of day two being Suboxone free

[SNTD]

Hello all, I have been taking Subs now for almost 11 months and I HATE taking them. I have discovered new pains since I started this med. Like in my finger joints as well as other areas.

Regardless this is not the reason I am posting this message today but more so for the fact that I am desperately trying to kick the Suboxone with as Little W/D as possible. I use to take 4 4mg per day and I weaned myself down to 1 tiny quarter every other day.

Tonight I am soooo restless as I am attempting to go a third day without any sub. My legs ache, I feel sharp stabbing pains all over from time to time varying from the upper and lower spine, also in my fingers, elbows, arms and even the legs. My legs are shaking uncontrollably and nothing at this point has a chance in the world to make me happy as I feel so restless and yet all I want to do is lay down.

I'm not going to sleep well tonight, I just know it. I should take one tomorrow but I don't want to. In fact the reason I am determined to quit is because I need surgery and the anesthesiologist wants me off suboxone at least 2 months prior to my procedure.

I'm in a very lonely place right now and I just want the semi W/D to stop. It upsets me so much that we people who know what opiate w/d feels like are given a drug that not only is an opiate it's self but makes you W/D also. I feel no different than I did w/d from opiates.

Any words of wisdom? Help me please, I don't want to take pills anymore

[Robert_325]

Hello all, I have been taking Subs now for almost 11 months and I HATE taking them. I have discovered new pains since I started this med. Like in my finger joints as well as other areas.

Regardless this is not the reason I am posting this message today but more so for the fact that I am desperately trying to kick the Suboxone with as Little W/D as possible. I use to take 4 4mg per day and I weaned myself down to 1 tiny quarter every other day.

Tonight I am soooo restless as I am attempting to go a third day without any sub. My legs ache, I feel sharp stabbing pains all over from time to time varying from the upper and lower spine, also in my fingers, elbows, arms and even the legs. My legs are shaking uncontrollably and nothing at this point has a chance in the world to make me happy as I feel so restless and yet all I want to do is lay down.

I'm not going to sleep well tonight, I just know it. I should take one tomorrow but I don't want to. In fact the reason I am determined to quit is because I need surgery and the anesthesiologist wants me off suboxone at least 2 months prior to my procedure.

I'm in a very lonely place right now and I just want the semi W/D to stop. It upsets me so much that we people who know what opiate w/d feels like are given a drug that not only is an opiate it's self but makes you W/D also. I feel no different than I did w/d from opiates.

Any words of wisdom? Help me please, I don't want to take pills anymore

It's not that the suboxone is bad, you just used it for 11 months and you have to taper off correctly to avoid the w/d symptoms. I don't know how you tapered down to the low dose, but that doesn't matter now. The good thing about suboxone is that you can end that w/d with a tiny sliver. I try to help people detox from suboxone all the time. I always tell them when they get down to a dose like you are taking to skip one day, then take a sliver, then skip two days, then take a sliver, then skip three days and so on through the fourth day. Suboxone has a very long half life and this is the way we have to do the taper. I would take a sliver and start over again tomorrow if it's bothering you that badly. Why go through w/d from suboxone when you used it to not have w/d? Doesn't make sense. This is not a failure, just part of the process. Take a sliver and start over skipping three days again tomorrow, but go for four this time. And if you make it three days and this happens again, then take a little sliver and start it over again. You will make it through great if you do it like I suggest.
Good luck.

[SNTD]

It's not that the suboxone is bad, you just used it for 11 months and you have to taper off correctly to avoid the w/d symptoms. I don't know how you tapered down to the low dose, but that doesn't matter now. The good thing about suboxone is that you can end that w/d with a tiny sliver. I try to help people detox from suboxone all the time. I always tell them when they get down to a dose like you are taking to skip one day, then take a sliver, then skip two days, then take a sliver, then skip three days and so on through the fourth day. Suboxone has a very long half life and this is the way we have to do the taper. I would take a sliver and start over again tomorrow if it's bothering you that badly. Why go through w/d from suboxone when you used it to not have w/d? Doesn't make sense. This is not a failure, just part of the process. Take a sliver and start over skipping three days again tomorrow, but go for four this time. And if you make it three days and this happens again, then take a little sliver and start it over again. You will make it through great if you do it like I suggest.
Good luck.

Thank you for your reply. I am trying to quite the Suboxone for myself as I no longer want to have to rely on popping anything to get through a day. I miss the old clean me. Another reason I am trying to taper off and willing to suffer the w/d is because I have been told I have to be 2 months clean from taking Sub in order to go through a surgery that I have been waiting for the past two years in which I saved for every penny for. I had the date set but it was the anesthesiologist that warned me that unless I am 2 months clean I can not have the procedure. I suppose I will try a sliver tomorrow and so forth every third day til I think I can stop alltogether. every day I am on this though is another day that prolongs my surgery date.

Thank you kindly for your response again

[Robert_325]

I don't know what type of surgery you are having and it doesn't really matter I don't think ....

I have never heard anything about needing to be off suboxone for two months prior to a surgery of any kind.

The reason for stopping the suboxone is so the opiate pain meds will be effective again. That is pretty simple and obvious. In my case opiates worked again in just a matter of days after stopping subs. I don't wish to be argumentative with a doctor but this kind of bothers me. I am not sure your anesthesiologist is totally accurate about this subject. I know I would not agree with him.

I have never talked to a single person that said they had to be off opiates for two months prior to surgery. They usually make us stop certain meds for a week maybe prior to surgery, even heart meds. I think your anesth. just wants to make sure his meds are working so he is making 100% sure by telling you 60 days. You could always do a little test under the care of the dr by taking a medicinal opiate dose after being off the suboxone for about 4 days. Then you would know for sure.

You have waited for this surgery for a good while. I'm sure you will work all this out. Good luck and God bless.