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    I have been suffering from lower back pain problems for 20 years now. The past 2 years have been very very hard for me.

    The physically pain has now affected my mental health. I am unable to sit or stand for more than 1 hour at a time. I cannot hold down a job because I can't sit at a desk or be on my feet for extended periods of time.

    My latest MRI says I have

    Left inferior L4-L5 disc extrusion with central Left L5 nerve root impingement.

    Diffuse disc bulge @ L5-S1 causing thecal sac effacement + left lateral L5 nerve root impingement

    I went to see a pain management guy who would not write me up for any opiate.

    I have taken every non opiate pain relief medicine and I've yet to find 1 that stops the pain.

    I think these Dr's are in the pockets of the makers of ULTRAM. To me it's glorified Advil @ $9.00 a pill!! I'm positive the doctors collect a kickback from the drugs manufacturer.


    How do I get a Dr. to perscibe me sufficient medication? I have been buying Internet hydro condone and street Oxy Contin to alleviate my non stop pain and suffering. I am not a criminal. I don't want to break the law. I just want to alleviate my suffering

    I have also been in touch with a treatment center that specializes in spinal laser surgeries. They seem confident they can fix me at a cost of 15 to 30 thousand dollars!!!


    How do I get a pain management Dr. to write me up for the narcotics that relieve my pain? I am at the end of my rope and severely depressed at my current situation.

    Please, I don't need to be told about being addicted and the dangers of NARCOTIC medicines. To me at this point it is the only medicine that helps me until I can raise 20K for the operation that (((may))) take my pain away permanently.


    Peace to all,




    Thanks for any helpful input

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    Quote Originally Posted by opiate_lover View Post
    I have been suffering from lower back pain problems for 20 years now. The past 2 years have been very very hard for me.

    The physically pain has now affected my mental health. I am unable to sit or stand for more than 1 hour at a time. I cannot hold down a job because I can't sit at a desk or be on my feet for extended periods of time.

    My latest MRI says I have

    Left inferior L4-L5 disc extrusion with central Left L5 nerve root impingement.

    Diffuse disc bulge @ L5-S1 causing thecal sac effacement + left lateral L5 nerve root impingement

    I went to see a pain management guy who would not write me up for any opiate.

    I have taken every non opiate pain relief medicine and I've yet to find 1 that stops the pain.

    I think these Dr's are in the pockets of the makers of ULTRAM. To me it's glorified Advil @ $9.00 a pill!! I'm positive the doctors collect a kickback from the drugs manufacturer.


    How do I get a Dr. to perscibe me sufficient medication? I have been buying Internet hydro condone and street Oxy Contin to alleviate my non stop pain and suffering. I am not a criminal. I don't want to break the law. I just want to alleviate my suffering

    I have also been in touch with a treatment center that specializes in spinal laser surgeries. They seem confident they can fix me at a cost of 15 to 30 thousand dollars!!!


    How do I get a pain management Dr. to write me up for the narcotics that relieve my pain? I am at the end of my rope and severely depressed at my current situation.

    Please, I don't need to be told about being addicted and the dangers of NARCOTIC medicines. To me at this point it is the only medicine that helps me until I can raise 20K for the operation that (((may))) take my pain away permanently.


    Peace to all,




    Thanks for any helpful input
    Who ordered the MRI that confirmed that you have back issues? This could help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icandoitin08 View Post
    Who ordered the MRI that confirmed that you have back issues? This could help.
    An orthopedist who sent me to the pain management guy.

    They are in the same medical group. I have a pre existing waiver on my back.

    I am screwed. I can't win

    Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opiate_lover View Post
    An orthopedist who sent me to the pain management guy.

    They are in the same medical group. I have a pre existing waiver on my back.

    I am screwed. I can't win

    Ever.

    Why don't you tell the Orthopedist how much pain you are in so he can prescribe you something stronger? , He has to know you are in pain.

    I wish you much luck,
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    Quote Originally Posted by icandoitin08 View Post
    Why don't you tell the Orthopedist how much pain you are in so he can prescribe you something stronger? , He has to know you are in pain.

    I wish you much luck,
    Cheryl


    I tried

    He is heartless or so it seems

    He won't write anything higher than 5-325 Perc's.

    The kicker is I have an EXCLUSIONARY CLAUSE in my health insurance on any part of my lower back Lumbar area, sciatic ETC.

    IF anyone knows a compassionate pain management professional within 200 miles of Washington DC, PLEASE PLEASE contact me ASAP!!


    I am will to submit to drug tests to prove that I am taking the pills and not selling them. I believe that is the main reason Dr's are not writing scripts for Oxy Contins.

    I've never broken a law in my life with the exception of driving too fast LOL.

    I am now a potential FELON due to my never ending and worsening pain......


    God bless

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    Quote Originally Posted by opiate_lover View Post
    I tried

    He is heartless or so it seems

    He won't write anything higher than 5-325 Perc's.

    The kicker is I have an EXCLUSIONARY CLAUSE in my health insurance on any part of my lower back Lumbar area, sciatic ETC.

    IF anyone knows a compassionate pain management professional within 200 miles of Washington DC, PLEASE PLEASE contact me ASAP!!


    I am will to submit to drug tests to prove that I am taking the pills and not selling them. I believe that is the main reason Dr's are not writing scripts for Oxy Contins.

    I've never broken a law in my life with the exception of driving too fast LOL.

    I am now a potential FELON due to my never ending and worsening pain......


    God bless

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    It is hard for me to give you advice since I aboused pain pills for so long. My mind instantly thinks anyone looking for pain meds is an abuser like me. You could be the exception to my thinking.

    I would suggest finding a new doctor. Someone who is more up to date on your condition.

    Good luck to you!
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    I don't take them to get high.

    I take them to stop the pain that is so fierce it brings me a 46 year old man with no history of any type of drug abuse to tears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opiate_lover View Post
    I don't take them to get high.

    I take them to stop the pain that is so fierce it brings me a 46 year old man with no history of any type of drug abuse to tears.

    I would look for a patiend advocate.
    I wish you all the best and hope you can get some relief.
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    Hi,

    First, I want to start by saying you have an EXCELLENT doctor now. If more doctors practiced in this manner maybe we wouldn't have the epidemic we do now!

    Second, with a screen name like "opiate lover" perhaps he really is doing the best thing for you! Please don't get me wrong, I don't mean to chastize you or make light of your situation, but I too was/am an opiate lover and look what's it got me!

    Third, many pills ago I was a licensed health insurance agent. I don't know if you have, but if not take your policy to a local lawyer, even a couple! I can tell you many policies contain clauses that are not enforceable in many states. Generally, you can get free first consultations from many lawyers, take advantage of it!

    Fourth, 5mg of oxy should provide decent relief for most normal people (or earth persons as Robert referred...lol). The fact that you get no relief makes me worry that you're going in the wrong direction here!

    I can appreciate this probably pi$$ed you off! Like I said I don't mean to make light of your situation and I DO understand what a bltch chronic pain can be. But I really am offering this with the best of intentions for you. Take my word for it, opiates for long-term pain management just isn't an option. Doesn't work and never will, you'll just have to take more and more! Then you will end up as messed up as me and STILL have pain.

    Sincerely,

    Greg - A struggling opiate addict

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    I am an opiate lover because it is THE ONLY MEDS THAT take away my pain.


    Tramadol

    Ultram

    ETC


    I have tried them all.

    It was just a waste of my limited finance's.

    I love opiates because they take away my pain.

    They let me feel like I did 20 years ago when back pain was not part of my EVERYDAY life.

    I am only looking for relief till I come up with $15,000 for this proceduer

    http://www.laserspineinstitute.com/s...rmal_ablation/


    It seems like this may be the cure.

    I am in the process of finding a state supplemented insurance plan but it is a longshot









    Quote Originally Posted by mitchigan View Post
    Hi,

    First, I want to start by saying you have an EXCELLENT doctor now. If more doctors practiced in this manner maybe we wouldn't have the epidemic we do now!

    Second, with a screen name like "opiate lover" perhaps he really is doing the best thing for you! Please don't get me wrong, I don't mean to chastize you or make light of your situation, but I too was/am an opiate lover and look what's it got me!

    Third, many pills ago I was a licensed health insurance agent. I don't know if you have, but if not take your policy to a local lawyer, even a couple! I can tell you many policies contain clauses that are not enforceable in many states. Generally, you can get free first consultations from many lawyers, take advantage of it!

    Fourth, 5mg of oxy should provide decent relief for most normal people (or earth persons as Robert referred...lol). The fact that you get no relief makes me worry that you're going in the wrong direction here!

    I can appreciate this probably pi$$ed you off! Like I said I don't mean to make light of your situation and I DO understand what a bltch chronic pain can be. But I really am offering this with the best of intentions for you. Take my word for it, opiates for long-term pain management just isn't an option. Doesn't work and never will, you'll just have to take more and more! Then you will end up as messed up as me and STILL have pain.

    Sincerely,

    Greg - A struggling opiate addict
    Last edited by opiate_lover; 02-15-2009 at 12:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opiate_lover View Post

    How do I get a Dr. to perscibe me sufficient medication? I have been buying Internet hydro condone and street Oxy Contin to alleviate my non stop pain and suffering. I am not a criminal. I don't want to break the law. I just want to alleviate my suffering



    Thanks for any helpful input
    My heartfelt sympathies for you. I realize that does absolutely nothing to alleviate your pain and for that I am sorry. My husband suffers similar pain every day of his life and there is little help or concern in the medical world for him. They are more concerned he does not become "dependent" although at 60 he has little concern about dependency.

    The silly dribble about dependency is a hold-over from the 1960's and it is also, as you say, a big push to help drug companies. Narcotics were made to help and help they do. The problem is there isn't much profit for the drug companies so they have American's convinced they are evil and the newest designer drug is the best thing that has happened, the cure-all. And not a single designer drug has helped. Period.

    If you are in such pain, I honestly suggest you consider going to a country that will help you. Canada has nationalized health and narcotics are not as difficult to get I have been told. I am considering this move. Once I convince my husband to move, we will research the best place to go, and we will be gone. As much as I love my country, it is a losing battle to make people understand narcotics help. The simple "just say NO" is easier to understand and therefore becomes their bible.

    Until these "just say No" simpletons have to suffer pain as you have, they will never understand. What you and my husband go through is nothing short of torture.

    God bless. My heart is with you and the thousands of others out there suffering this same torture at the hands of our physicians.

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    I can't help you but I do understand, sometimes my pain is so bad I just cry but then we try to hide it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opiate_lover View Post

    Thanks for any helpful input
    Perhaps that will suffice as a designer drug and make your doctor happy to prescribe. You can also get assistance with your co-pay.

    There must be a doctor somewhere in the DC area that can help. Leave the doctor behind that will not assist a person in pain. That person should not be a doctor but I guess just about anyone can get that degree nowadays.

    good luck my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobby02 View Post
    I can't help you but I do understand, sometimes my pain is so bad I just cry but then we try to hide it.
    I watch as my husband does the same. Doctors don't care, the nanny state wants you to hug yourself rather than be pain free.

    Here is a good quote of the pervading attitude out there.

    Today, by contrast, immense energy is devoted by the authorities into persecuting "illicit" narcotic users. Many drug-"abusers" feel well thanks only to the "non-therapeutic" use of opioids. They are stigmatized, pilloried and criminalized in a futile War Against Drugs. In the "Inquisition against pleasure", victims of medically-sanctioned human-rights abuses - e.g. the hundreds of thousands of drug "offenders" incarcerated in the Amerikan gulag - are officially supposed to believe their malaise-ridden drug-naive states were "normal", "natural" and mentally healthy. In the course of our ill-conceived Drug War, vast resources are dissipated by the state-apparatus in an effort to choke off narcotic production and supply.

    This is a good read and you should be well informed if you're going to talk to a doctor about pain relief. Take the time to educate yourself thoroughly, the information is there, research it.

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