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    VORDER is offline New Member
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    Exclamation Confused- Pain Meds

    See lots of different forums on this site. Mostly everyone is seeking ways to downsize or get off the meds. Trying to understand the total logic of doing that if you have a chronic pain problem that not likely to go away. I have been going to a pain mgmt center for over 6 years and it's been all over the place with prescribed meds. Needless to say. When the pain "spikes" so does my control to not exceed the script directions. Have had the epidural shots & whatever else they use, cortisone, etc as often as allowed on a yearly basis has little or minimum bennifit either, but still get them for hope of maybe this will be the time they really help.I don't like taking the meds but I dislike dealing with pain even more. True, the meds seldom give complete relief if ever and at times it's useless to just take more as nothing can seem to ease it up. Ice, heat, showers, exercise, walking nothing helps, I've about worn out the pages in my prayer book, tried mediation,self hypnosis, whatever.

    Many times I do back off on the mg(s) taken, and sometimes that effort works but then it seems like I go through a binge stage after. My point of writing all this is desperation. Tired of, pain, tired of taking meds, just about to give up. Some people say just tough it out and get on with life which I think most pain suffer)s) do to some point.


    Sorry for all the negativity here . Agree With all the bad things constant taking meds do but don!t see another way out.
    Have been tempted many times to go to street drugs but realize that's just a quicker way to add other problems, legally an otherwise. Anybody out there got any magic bullets or other remedy please share.

    Thank you

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    toni.s. is offline Senior Member
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    hey now.
    seem so down..just want to let u know there is hope.
    there are a lot of success stories here..i'm sure u've read them.
    and there's a lot of ppl that end up saying that the pain isn't as bad once off of the meds..

    u say ur desperate,
    and about to give up..

    have u tried getting off of the meds entirely?

    no magic bullets here.
    but i am giving u another option to atleast TRY...
    and seems like u've tried everything else BUT this.

    i don't have chronic pain so i don't feel entirely comfortable giving this suggestion though..

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    can we get a little feedback here from those with a similar experience?
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    Hi there :-)
    Ok, I don't have this problem myself, but I was very, very close to a friend here who did, and I've read basically the same thing on this forum and others: sometimes these meds, after long usage, CAUSE the pain you're feeling. My friend and the others I speak of got off the opiates and were amazed at how much the pain was less and how they are now capable of dealing with it in alternative ways.
    Again, not my personal experience, just information I'd like to pass on to you.
    I'm so sorry you feel this bad.
    And yes, it looks like you tried almost everything. Almost, because you do have one more option: stop the opiates. They honestly could be causing your pain to be a lot more than it actually is.
    I hope someone comes along who has personally been through this and puts their two cents in.
    Good luck, and please always know there ARE options.
    All the best.

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    Hi Vorder! I'm sorry you're having a tough time. I just wanted to let you know that we're here for you. I realize it's not more medicine that you want . . . but have you thought about perhaps asking you doctor about adding an antidepressant? People with chronic pain issues often benefit. I'm thinking about you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VORDER View Post
    See lots of different forums on this site. Mostly everyone is seeking ways to downsize or get off the meds. Trying to understand the total logic of doing that if you have a chronic pain problem that not likely to go away. I have been going to a pain mgmt center for over 6 years and it's been all over the place with prescribed meds. Needless to say. When the pain "spikes" so does my control to not exceed the script directions. Have had the epidural shots & whatever else they use, cortisone, etc as often as allowed on a yearly basis has little or minimum bennifit either, but still get them for hope of maybe this will be the time they really help.I don't like taking the meds but I dislike dealing with pain even more. True, the meds seldom give complete relief if ever and at times it's useless to just take more as nothing can seem to ease it up. Ice, heat, showers, exercise, walking nothing helps, I've about worn out the pages in my prayer book, tried mediation,self hypnosis, whatever.

    Many times I do back off on the mg(s) taken, and sometimes that effort works but then it seems like I go through a binge stage after. My point of writing all this is desperation. Tired of, pain, tired of taking meds, just about to give up. Some people say just tough it out and get on with life which I think most pain suffer)s) do to some point.


    Sorry for all the negativity here . Agree With all the bad things constant taking meds do but don!t see another way out.
    Have been tempted many times to go to street drugs but realize that's just a quicker way to add other problems, legally an otherwise. Anybody out there got any magic bullets or other remedy please share.

    Thank you
    Dear Vorder,

    I became addicted to legitimate prescription narcotics as a result of legitimate, chronic pain. I'd endured decades (literally) of chronic migraines - almost daily - and when I knew I had to stop the pills, I was terrified of the pain I'd have remaining.

    After years of using narcotics, their effectiveness was very limited. My tolerance had increased, which is inevitable with long-term use. So I needed more and more of the drug, to gain any relief. Ultimately, that blossomed into addiction - and made me into an emotional/mental/physical mess. Pain or not, I had to stop.

    I am one of those people the others speak of - whose pain actually lessened significantly, after I stopped the narcotics and got into recovery. And now, working in the substance abuse field, I see this kind of thing quite often.

    Best I can describe what I see (and experienced) is this. Back when I was abusing the narcotics, sure I tried a number of alternative treatments - but the addict within me subconsciously didn't want to give those alternative methods much credit. My attempts were half-hearted; basically, I was jumping through hoops to pacify the doctor. All the while, my addiction wanted to keep with the pills. I wasn't conscious of what was going on within me. This is what I've come to see long after the pills are history.

    When I reached the point that I was steadfast in my recovery - was working a strong 12-step program and, above all, wanting to stay clean, my mindset completely changed within. I knew in my gut that pills were NOT an option. So I HAD to find some other ways to treat the pain. That switch in attitude changed everything.

    I went to a team of specialists in my area of need (chronic migraines), and they set about trying each and every alternative treatment in the book, to help me with my pain. Things I had tried before (and not worked, while still using narcotics) were now offering some relief. NSAID drugs - that I insisted were absolutely pointless for my pain - were now helping. Meditation and biofeedback now made a difference. (After all, what chance did mind-over-matter treatments have, if there were narcotics influencing my mind?) Heck, I even practiced meditation to the extent that I participated in walking over red-hot coals once... just wondering... is there any real truth to this "mind-over-matter"? Crazy as that was, I'm glad I did it - I learned that my mind truly does have the ability to control its experience of pain.

    As I've "exercised" these different therapies - with the positive attitude that was essential to my success - my ability to manage and control my pain increased. Preventative medication therapies also helped. Today, I still have some of the pain - but it is lessened by about 90%. What remains is manageable with non-narcotic meds and other techniques.

    It is very difficult to forecast what will happen with you pain after you stop the narcotics. But I can tell you what I've seen, working with newly clean/sober women. In the end, the addictive pain meds were generally increasing their pain - either physically or psychologically. In recovery, there was pain reduction by just about all of them.

    As we work a 12-step recovery program, we change and grow from within. We develop stronger coping skills and healthier attitudes. These skills have been vital to reducing my physical pain. As I dealt with the underlying emotional pain, the outward (physical) pain, lessened.

    So much of what we can or can not do is powerfully influenced by our attitude. Whether there is a physiological reason for our pain or not, our attitude can dramatically affect our perception of the pain.

    God bless,
    Ruth


    You will know the truth - and only the truth can set you free.

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    Ruth, thank you for the very helpful response to my call for help and my thanks to all the others who replied as well. Being what I feel is the end of the line your suggestions give hope.I have a little fear of going to programs because my family doesn't know how bad things are and there will surely be someone there who knows us. I will just have to deal with that when it happens. One of the reasons I locked into for continuing to take the meds, regardless of the amount and result was that soon I will be 80 yrs old and being dependent or addicted has no
    real meaning to me but It would be great to finish out whatever days or yrs that remain with some comfort & enjoyment of life itself. Thanks again for the advise. I guess my first step will be to start detoxing myself by
    Taking less of the meds in a steady downgrade. I did it once a few yrs ago and felt really good about it for a short while but life being life more physical things happened & got right back on the old program. Up, up & up!
    Didn't mean to make this so long and will end here. Thanks again to all & God Bless

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