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11-09-2009, 01:57 PM
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| | Prescription filling question, Kind of a STRANGE circumstance... long story short, my mom gets 3 written scrips for adderal at a time. after getting her last one filled october 12th, i took her next months one and got it filled november 2nd.. the pharmacy had told me it was too early and it could not be filled untill the 9th at the earliest... i told them she was getting it filled early because she was going out of town for awhile and didnt mind paying for it without insurance. so they filled it. its about time for her to refill it but obviously cant find the written perscription and thinks she misplaced it. so my question is, If she asked her doctor to write a new one would the doctor know it had already been filled ? and if a new one was written and taken to a pharmacy different then the one i took her scrip to the when i got it filled on the 2nd, would that pharmacy know it had been filled so recently ?? would the insurance company know and would they still pay for it ? | 
11-09-2009, 05:23 PM
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| | Hi,
I have a scrip for Adderall and also get 3 months at a time. DO NOT f*** around with this, OK? The Dr.'s write them 1 month in advance and they have a 5 day expiration. Mine will write for 10-13-09, 11-13-09, and 12-13-09. I am real surprised the pharmacy filled it early. I tried it once and it was made VERY clear that is not acceptable. Same goes with Xanax or Klonopin refills. Your insurance company tracks everything (as well there is a master database all pharmacies are connected to). You might think you're being slick (not to be derogative - I felt the same way) but it will catch up to you in a few months. When that happens: best case - they cut you off. Worst case - they call the cops. This is a lose/lose situation my friend. If you get the generic (and I do) it asys Amphetamine right on the bottle. This is a closely watched drug, OK? Switching up pharmacies does nothing. You could pay cash at a different pharmacy, you may geT away with it, you may not. I would highly advise you and your Mom to be content with what your Dr. is giving you and not to push it or try and get cute.
I got popped Dr. shopping in March and it was not cool at all. Only thing that saved my a$$ was that is was my family Dr. from when I was a kid so they just made it clear I would not be receiving ANY MORE pain medication. Ever. It was not said but pretty much implied that I was no longer welcome there as a patient. One of the lowest moments I've had as an addict, I mean my Mom got me in there and I had to tell her what happened. Talk about feeling like a piece of s***.
Best of luck. if I were in your shoes, I would consider myself lucky it worked once. Police trouble isn't worth a handful of pills.
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11-09-2009, 07:07 PM
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| | im not sure if u understand what im trying to say exactly... first of all, i took her scrip and got it filled without her knowing about it. when i got it filled it was without any partial payment from her insurance. so what im asking since i know my moms dr. is cool and will write her another one if she says she lost it which she believes she did, if she takes that new scrip to any other pharmacy will they know i filled her scrip ? cuz im thinking that maybe since the insurance wasnt used when i filled it that she would be able to get it filled with her insurance paying most of it as if i never did a thing... so basically the situation is, she will have a new written scrip from her dr and the insurance company hasnt had to pay theyre part of her perscription for the month of november. and what im wondering is if she will be able to get it filled without any problems or will i have to come clean about taking her scrip and filling it? | 
11-09-2009, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by highoffyour$ im not sure if u understand what im trying to say exactly... first of all, i took her scrip and got it filled without her knowing about it. when i got it filled it was without any partial payment from her insurance. so what im asking since i know my moms dr. is cool and will write her another one if she says she lost it which she believes she did, if she takes that new scrip to any other pharmacy will they know i filled her scrip ? cuz im thinking that maybe since the insurance wasnt used when i filled it that she would be able to get it filled with her insurance paying most of it as if i never did a thing... so basically the situation is, she will have a new written scrip from her dr and the insurance company hasnt had to pay theyre part of her perscription for the month of november. and what im wondering is if she will be able to get it filled without any problems or will i have to come clean about taking her scrip and filling it? |
OK, gotcha. This is my thought on it, and I may be wrong (but I do not think I am): Since it was not through insurance, they won't know anything. However, all pharmacies are linked with a master database. It is 2009, there is very little you can do that is not tracked by computer, especially when a controlled asubstance is involved. It may take a month or 2 (it did with me when I got popped using multiple pharmacies and Dr.'s.) but it will show up that a prescription that is supposed to be filled once per month was filled twice. You may get away with it, I don't know. I, too, didn't run my other painkiller scrip thru insurance, I went to CVS (where I never go) and thought I was slick as could be. For 2 months. It may take a bit for the information to update/correlate whatever, but I'm pretty sure it will. Maybe it will fall thru the cracks, I can't say for certain. What I can say for certain is that you can get into more trouble than it's worth. The insurance company isn't the issue, I understand, it's the pharmacy that is the issue. Things like narcotics (perc's, vic's, norco'c, etc) stimulants (Adderall, Ritalin, etc), benzo's (Klonopin, Xanax) are pretty well regulated and monitored.
My advice is not to play with fire. I did and got burned (well, singed actually as I didn't get turned in). I'm not going to tell you what to do (with my past I don't feel I have the right) but my suggestion would be to come clean with your mom.
Anybody else have any feedback?
I'm real surprised this pharmacy 1) let YOU pick up her scrip and 2) filled it early. That is a big No-No. Walgreen's knows me well, they have chided me many times. I mean, they address me by name every time, but the people at my bank have no idea who I am. That tells you a little about the frequency of my calls and visits across the street to Walgreen's. Good luck, keep yourself out of trouble, my friend!
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11-10-2009, 03:01 PM
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| | You stole your mom's script? What a piece of s.h.i.t you are, you get no help from me. | 
11-10-2009, 06:13 PM
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| | highoffyour$ ...... so you stole your own mother's prescription and you have the balls to post here for advice how to get away with it? My advice is similar to Cats Meow only I won't be as kind as she was in her reply. I would take it one step farther than Cats. I would suggest that you stick your head in the oven and shut the door with the gas turned up all the way! You're a worthless scumbag stealing medication from your own mother.
I just flew across the country to celebrate my mom's 82nd birthday tomorrow with her because she is getting to the age where I don't know how many more birthdays I will have with her. I don't know what I will do when I lose my mom as I love her dearly and would do anything for her. If anyone did anything to my mother I wouldn't even blink when I took the few seconds it would take to put that miserable excuse for a human being out of their misery.
How you could rip off your own mother for a freaking script is beyond me, but then to come here thinking you will get sympathy is lower than pathetic. I personally hope that the authorities nail your ass to a cross and let you hang out in the sun until you dry up. You're a worthless piece of trash. You need to get off this forum as surely no one else here when they really think about what you did will offer you any advice or pity. You deserve whatever you get Chit head!
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11-11-2009, 02:40 AM
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| | Wow... after reading Cats Meow's and Roberts replies I had to go re-read your post.
I agree with them. 1.) Horrid thing to do (2) MANY TIMES WORSE asking here for advice...
wow............sad................
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11-11-2009, 07:26 AM
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| | I am guessing you are an addict...many people here have done bad stuff due to addiction. Although what you did is not nice, I am not going to judge you...just hope you find the strength to be honest with yourself and get the help you need...then I am sure people here would open up their hearts to you regardless of what you have done in the past. Good luck.
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11-11-2009, 01:48 PM
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| | wow...i can't believe some of the responses here Okay, first of all, I know I am new to this board. But i am not new to using. I have a very prestigious medical background along with the first-hand experience of knowing what it is like to use, abuse, lie and manipulate to get my hands on certain things - like amphetamines, benzos, opiates, you name it. i have to point that out so you maybe realize that i know what i'm talking about. i have been clean for over a year, never got caught and never ever ever was under the "influence" while working. and i was an addict for many years. I can't believe you told this kid to stick his head in an oven. don't you realize that a comment like that could push someone over the edge???!! we don't know his history, what he's been on, his mental state at the time of the post. i don't agree with what he has done; it was horrible, ok? but haven't YOU done horrible things to get a fix??? it's not like he sold his 13 year old daughter for 40 bucks worth of crack. for God's sake, he stole a script from his mom. not that doing that is acceptable at all, but don't be a freakin' hypocrite and claim self-righteousness when it comes to "shaming" and belittling someone who posts on here. i thought that was one of your rules. wtf. that was completely uncalled for. stick your head in the oven with the gas on high you piece of "chit"? wow. you have no idea what you could have done with that response. he wasn't looking for sympathy. he asked a question. and opee answered it just fine.
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11-11-2009, 02:29 PM
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| | Iphigenia .... "wow...i can't believe some of the responses here"
I didn't make a reply here to seek out your approval. And he isn't going to stick his head in an oven.  Get real! He's totally selfish and wouldn't do that to himself. This is a DRUG ABUSE FORUM. We don't pat people sweetly on the back and tell them, "IT's okay honey. You made a little boo boo but you didn't do anything bad." WE deal with reality here.
If you don't like my replies change the channel.  I have worked with as many addicts helping them get clean as you have over the years so don't try to impress people with your "credentials" here. Ask around the forum about me if you question my methods. I've been doing this for 35 years.
You don't know my history and I'm not going to waste my time getting into it. Deal with your patients the way you choose. But this isn't your office. Most psych/drug abuse drs aren't thought of that highly here as it's those drs who put most of the members here in the first place by over-prescribing your medications. Opee is a great guy. I'm happy that you approved of his reply. Opee and I are friends too. Ask Opee if I ever hurt him.
Lighten up dude! Stick to treating your patients in your office as you choose. But leave us alone as no one is seeking you out for counsel here. Cats Meow who posted prior to me and myself have almost 15,000 posts and YEARS of our time helping addicts on this forum. Our records speak for themselves.
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11-11-2009, 04:02 PM
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| | Wow...uhm, I didn't mean to set off a firestorm here. Looking back, perhaps I was pretty easy on this kid, but I would be a bald-faced liar if I said I never lied, cheated, stole from people I care about and/or otherwise destroyed numerous relationships over the course of 2 decades of drug use. I have stolen pills from MY mother, lied to her to get pills, etc. I feel like a piece of $hit for it and I still carry that burden today. I always will. It is one of many burdens I carry around as a 20 year addict.
In re-reading my posts (a few times - and I don't feel like I'm defending myself or that I have the NEED to defend myself) I never condoned this kid's actions (nor did anyone ever say I did). I didn't tell him how to beat the system (I never figured it out), simply shared a similar experience and offered advice (as I have done with most folks): I would not try and do this again. You will get caught and get into trouble and it isn't worth it.
What he did is awful, it is, but in looking at my own past actions, it is difficult for me to be hard on someone who has done similar things that I have done. I never actually stole a scrip from my mom and got it filled, but I sure as hell stole pills out of her bottle more times than I can count.
Drug abuse is nasty business and it changes the way we think, at least for me. It makes you rationalize things and do things you wouldn't normally do.
Robert, you ARE a friend and, no, you've never hurt me in the past, always helped me. I credit you with alot. I think you are a great guy, too, but you know that.
My opinion is that, yes, some harsh words were said. Harsh words that were not undeserving, but I can see everyone's point of view here.
I only respond to posts that I have some experience in (which is why you have never seen me post on a Subs thread - aside form the cost I know very little) and I have had some experience in this particular area.
Again, looking back, I could have responded in a different manner, but I'm OK with my responses. They were real and they were from me. Everybody has a different take on things.
Opee
P.S. For the record, if there is ONE thing I could take back from the last 20 years, it would definitely be putting my Mom through what I did. Pretending to have a headache when I didn't because I wanted a handful of Darvocet. Or driving to their house 30 miles away when I knew they would be gone so I could raid her drawer for Darvocet. I sure as hell don't condone it, but I sure as hell did it. And for that, I remain ashamed. | 
11-11-2009, 04:05 PM
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| | Robert, it was not my intention to claim that I knew more than you or anyone else on this forum. I don't know your credentials and you don't know mine. I have been very impressed with all of the help you have provided to people and I truly believe you would never lead anyone astray. I was just caught off-guard with your response to this person, end of story. I'm sure doctors or nurses or anyone in that capacity are not welcome on this forum, but what about a career soldier who has "been there, done that, watched people die, saved lives..." We are all doing that in some capacity. I imagine you have saved/changed many lives yourself in this forum. That takes alot of selflessness and a true compassion for your fellow person. I respect you for that. I have personally witnessed how your words and this forum have transformed others. Thank you. I will leave it at that. | 
11-11-2009, 05:02 PM
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| | Thanks for that. I appreciate your willingness to not pursue this negatively any further and I apologize as well if I was insulting or hurt anyone's feelings.
I think we're both on the same page here wanting to see people get well. It's very serious business and I can see you know the graveness of addiction just as I do. I'm SOOO glad this didn't turn into a battle as helping people live through their errors in judgement is so much more important than you and I fussing over who knows more. That is so insignificant in looking at the big picture.
Welcome to the forum and I look forward to us talking about more positive subjects in the future. Have a great day! God bless.
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11-11-2009, 05:40 PM
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| | Thank you as well, Robert. And may God Bless You also. Iphi | 
11-11-2009, 06:08 PM
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| | highoffyour$
From what I have learned on here, there is a prescription database with the DEA that tracks "narcotic medications." If I were you, I would not chance it, just to get high. It is bad enough that you stole your mom's prescription. But this is serious. You do not want to get your mom investigated by the DEA because you are messing around with her meds.
I would suggest trying to get some help with kicking an addiction rather than coming here to get people to help you lie and steal from your mom and committing a crime! | 
11-11-2009, 09:10 PM
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| | One of the rules here that I always try and follow is "don't give people advice on abusing drugs", but sometimes there's gray area, but when somebody has the audacity to steal not just a few pills, but a whole script from their own mother and then ask for advice, I draw the line, and consider them fair game and declare hunting season open, he has a bullseye painted on him from now on as far as I'm concerned. The only way I'll help this person is to help him into a set of handcuffs, and if I could he would be sitting in jail right now, in the hole no less.
I like Robert's comment, and know he only said it out of frustration, frustration because he can't personally wrap his hands around the OP's throat and shake some sense into him. Addiction is no excuse for stealing from friends or relatives, if you do, you get no-quarter from me, and I didn't hear one word of contrite from that fool, he needs to stick his head in the toilet and flush it a few times and send his fecal brains down the drain.
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11-12-2009, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cats Meow One of the rules here that I always try and follow is "don't give people advice on abusing drugs", but sometimes there's gray area, but when somebody has the audacity to steal not just a few pills, but a whole script from their own mother and then ask for advice, I draw the line, and consider them fair game and declare hunting season open, he has a bullseye painted on him from now on as far as I'm concerned. The only way I'll help this person is to help him into a set of handcuffs, and if I could he would be sitting in jail right now, in the hole no less.
I like Robert's comment, and know he only said it out of frustration, frustration because he can't personally wrap his hands around the OP's throat and shake some sense into him. Addiction is no excuse for stealing from friends or relatives, if you do, you get no-quarter from me, and I didn't hear one word of contrite from that fool, he needs to stick his head in the toilet and flush it a few times and send his fecal brains down the drain.
Cats |
What does the term "OP" stand for? That's a new one on me.
Opee | 
11-12-2009, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Opee What does the term "OP" stand for? That's a new one on me.
Opee | Hey Opee ...... "OP" stands for the original poster, or the person who started the thread. The guy here who stole from his mother is the OP.
We sure haven't heard much of anything even resembling any kind of remorse from that person since they posted.  After all the replies including mine, Cats', etc you would think this OP would at least feel some kind of guilt over stealing from his own mother. All he ever posted about was getting the stupid drugs refilled. That is really sad.
I got to go out to dinner last night with my mom to celebrate her 82nd birthday. I can't even imagine what I would do to anyone that did anything to my mother. Talk about going NUTSO on someone! I would totally lose it if ANYONE took from my mother.  Guess it takes all kinds to make up the world. Whatever ......
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11-12-2009, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert_325 highoffyour$ ...... so you stole your own mother's prescription and you have the balls to post here for advice how to get away with it? My advice is similar to Cats Meow only I won't be as kind as she was in her reply. I would take it one step farther than Cats. I would suggest that you stick your head in the oven and shut the door with the gas turned up all the way! You're a worthless scumbag stealing medication from your own mother.
I just flew across the country to celebrate my mom's 82nd birthday tomorrow with her because she is getting to the age where I don't know how many more birthdays I will have with her. I don't know what I will do when I lose my mom as I love her dearly and would do anything for her. If anyone did anything to my mother I wouldn't even blink when I took the few seconds it would take to put that miserable excuse for a human being out of their misery.
How you could rip off your own mother for a freaking script is beyond me, but then to come here thinking you will get sympathy is lower than pathetic. I personally hope that the authorities nail your ass to a cross and let you hang out in the sun until you dry up. You're a worthless piece of trash. You need to get off this forum as surely no one else here when they really think about what you did will offer you any advice or pity. You deserve whatever you get Chit head!  | robert havent you told us that you were the worst scumbag around, and hurt your father, and lots of other stuff like that, yet your christian nature can turn around real quick and condemn this guy. i know hes done wrong, but that was a bit of a harsh reply in my opinion. least now he is being honest, wow, yes i know stealing from your mother is low, i stole my uncles cancer meds when he was dying, thats the point, addicts do scummy stuff, because they are addicts.
i think the temporary narcotics you are on for your knee have clouded your bless me mentality and you got a bit angry.
a worthless piece of trash you call this guy. wow thats real nice.
you seem to have a double personality, sometimes real nice, sometimes a real arrrrsehole.
i know as usual i will get in trouble for this, but c'mon, i thought the rules of the forum where not to abuse others. and thats downright abuse.
we have all done sh!tty things during our addiction, and for someone who has supposedly been there done that, i think you over stepped the mark.
check yourself.
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11-12-2009, 11:09 PM
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| | Addiction might not be an "excuse" to steal from family or friends, but it is something that addicts do all the time. I, like many addicts, live with alot of guilt and thank God I made amends to my parents before they died. I agree with everything Opee said. I never stole a script but did steal pills and cash and jewelry on occasion when I needed to get my drugs. I was an addict and thats the nature of addiction. Most of us have done things similar to this person and live with regret. No one should judge lest they want to be judged themselves. I think what this kid did was horrible and dispicable but addicts do crummy things and thats a fact. My adivce would be come clean to your mom so she doesnt get in trouble trying to cash a duplicate script, get yourself some help because you are a drug abuser whether you realize it or not and never do something like that again. | 
11-13-2009, 01:40 AM
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| | Cheekysod, why don't you direct your vitriol to someone who deserves it (like the OP) instead of Robert - who's on this site night and day helping people? You know what? We don't candy coat everything, sometimes we shoot straight from the hip - when we need to, and this is a great example of a person who deserves it. I see no reason to turn his religious beliefs against him, and your vile attack is uncalled for. Maybe to you its some kind of code of honor for fellow brethren of low life thieving addicts? I don't blame the drugs or the addiction, its a character flaw, I don't care how bad an addict needs a fix, a person of conscience doesn't steal from their own mother (a whole script anyway), a decent person has a line they never cross, I would have more respect for him had he robbed a liquor store.
Back to Robert, you saying "wow that's nice" about him calling him a "worthless piece of trash", HE WASN"T TRYING TO BE NICE, just because he's a Christian he always has to be nice? Get Out. The truth isn't always nice, now get off his ass. You made me bare my claws mister, watch out for the fangs!
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11-13-2009, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cheekysod robert havent you told us that you were the worst scumbag around, and hurt your father, and lots of other stuff like that, yet your christian nature can turn around real quick and condemn this guy. i know hes done wrong, but that was a bit of a harsh reply in my opinion. least now he is being honest, wow, yes i know stealing from your mother is low, i stole my uncles cancer meds when he was dying, thats the point, addicts do scummy stuff, because they are addicts.
i think the temporary narcotics you are on for your knee have clouded your bless me mentality and you got a bit angry.
a worthless piece of trash you call this guy. wow thats real nice.
you seem to have a double personality, sometimes real nice, sometimes a real arrrrsehole.
i know as usual i will get in trouble for this, but c'mon, i thought the rules of the forum where not to abuse others. and thats downright abuse.
we have all done sh!tty things during our addiction, and for someone who has supposedly been there done that, i think you over stepped the mark.
check yourself.
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I don't have to justify myself to YOU cheekysod ... or whatever/whoever your name is. When I hurt my father it was an emotional thing. I don't owe you an explanation of anything between my father and myself. Let's hear instead about your mother and father. How many times have you stolen from them or hurt them physically/emotionally? You probably don't like that question do you? S CREw you for talking about my deceased father. Anything beyond what I offered about my parents is none of your business. And that goes to show that every post I make here is judged/scrutinized by the likes of you. I bet no one on the forum can recall ANY of your posts as they are all posts of such little or NO importance.
I NEVER stole from my mother, in fact while I was at my lowest at one time in my life I always still made enough money to not have to steal anything unless you pi$$ed me off and then maybe I would take what was YOURS just to make you mad. I still might in your case just because of your attitude. How dare you judge me!  What have you spent about 20 hours total on this forum? Go mess with someone else, your opinion doesn't interest me and it's of little significance on this forum to hardly anyone else.
I don't like to judge anyone for what they post but you make it difficult to adhere to that code of ethics. I'm a Christian so I'm not allowed to ever be angry in my life? If doesn't work like that. I won't mention the specific places in the Bible where Christ himself had fits of anger as I doubt you've read any of them anyways. Some people love to search out a way to criticize the legitimacy of another person's Christian beliefs. I expect to be criticized for my beliefs, your attack does nothing to shake my Christian faith I assure you. It means nothing to me except sadness for you.
For what it's worth I'm not some wuss who can't deal with my pain without narcotics. I don't take any narcotics and bite me over you judging my present health conditions. I took a couple pain pills for about three days, not that I have to explain to you. You would have been crying like a baby being in the pain I was in. You have no idea what I go through physically on a daily basis and I'm still helping on this forum regardless of people like you being on here. If it was only people like you here I wouldn't bother I promise you.
You don't even know what pain is compared to what some of the others here including myself have been through. I don't have to justify a damn thing to your a$$. If you don't like what you're reading change the freakin station. I actually THOUGHT you had a triple-digit IQ before I read this last post. This will be my LAST reply to you. That you can count on. And I will still pray for your blessings you as you surely need it. I will continue to include you in my prayers as I do everyone on this forum, even the guy who steals his mother's entire prescription .... yes, I pray for him too even though I would like to slap him. Feeling anger has nothing to do with being a Christian. God bless.
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11-13-2009, 03:25 PM
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| | yep i knew i would get a nasty reaction, and it came of course.
but i also know robert, you do not know me, and what i have done during my addictions, all i know is this place is supposedly non judgemental,
ive been told off for being too straight up, and you cant handle it.
then you try and belittle me, typical,
as for MY parents, i have NEVER stolen from them. like i did say in the post, i stole some of my uncles pain pills while he was dying of cancer, so i am able to be honest, just like the OP.
all i was trying to say is we are all drug addicts, we have all done stuff we were ashamed of. unless now you are changing your mind.
oh and to try and say you THOUGHT i had a triple digit IQ, you still dont know that, but any attack at this time will do ay bro. yeh right.
cats, i actually agreed with you on your comment, yes the op needs to fess up to his mom, but as for robert attacking him and calling him a worthless piece of trash etc etc.
so its ok for robert to abuse people, just because hes spent hundreds of hours on here.
oh and methinks me opinion must be important, it got you all riled up.
yes you are a christian, and yes you can get angry, but an active user of drugs posted on here, and you abused the ******** out of him.
its not your place. as is its not mine.
i know you have helped a lot of people, i also know the minute anyone dares to disagree you get all aggro and holier than thou. ive been reading longer than you know pal,
oh and you might take something of mine now to pi$$ me off, because of my attitude. pleeeeeease, bring it on baby..
TO THE ORIGINAL POSTER, GO TELL YA MOM, FESS UP. NEVER MIND ALL THESE BULLIES. GO GET SOME HELP. | 
11-14-2009, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Cats Meow Cheekysod, why don't you direct your vitriol to someone who deserves it (like the OP) instead of Robert - who's on this site night and day helping people? You know what? We don't candy coat everything, sometimes we shoot straight from the hip - when we need to, and this is a great example of a person who deserves it. I see no reason to turn his religious beliefs against him, and your vile attack is uncalled for. Maybe to you its some kind of code of honor for fellow brethren of low life thieving addicts? I don't blame the drugs or the addiction, its a character flaw, I don't care how bad an addict needs a fix, a person of conscience doesn't steal from their own mother (a whole script anyway), a decent person has a line they never cross, I would have more respect for him had he robbed a liquor store.
Back to Robert, you saying "wow that's nice" about him calling him a "worthless piece of trash", HE WASN"T TRYING TO BE NICE, just because he's a Christian he always has to be nice? Get Out. The truth isn't always nice, now get off his ass. You made me bare my claws mister, watch out for the fangs!
Meow | Cat's I cant agree with you more...I am so thankful for you, you help so many people on here and you know just what to say and when to say it.
My hat is off to you girl...
Many thanks. Melinda | 
11-14-2009, 04:17 PM
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Posts: 178
| | You know, this whole thing has been bothering me. I freely admitted to stealing pills from my mother. Cat's, would you lump me into the same category and call me a piece of $hit?
Can you honestly say you never did anything crummy to get your fix? You never took advantage of someone close to you?
I doubt any of us can. I have been on here a long time and I feel I have done some good (for myself and others).
However, after this latest string, I can't help but question if this is the right place for me. 3 days ago I would have said "yes, definitely." Today, I am not so sure. I'm more than a little disappointed in some of the remarks on here.
Now, there was never a direct attack focused on me, but I can read between the lines. I can't help but feel as if I've been called a peice of $hit.
I'm 16 days clean and have it together. I credit this site with quite a bit of that. However, I think this string goes against the core principles that this site was built on.
Now, before anyone responds with how many more posts they've had or how many more hours logged, it doesn't matter. What matters is that the first time I logged on, the first thing I read was "Constructive Advice Only." I don't feel this string is constructive. In fact, the more I think about it, I feel it is "destructive."
I seriously doubt I'm the only one out there who feels the same way.
I need to reevaluate my role and participation in this site.
I sincerely wish everyone the best of luck on their sobriety. I know I've got mine.
Respectfully,
Opee | 
11-14-2009, 04:38 PM
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| | Dear Opee,
Please reconsider your decision as far as what your role on this site will be. In following your posts for some time now, I see that you have many many friends here. Most of them haven't participated in this thread at all. I, like you and cheekysod, realize that this kid was exhibiting addict behavior, just like most of us have. I never stole a script from my mom, but I did steal pills as well as money and objects. I would NEVER have done that if not for my addiction and would never dream of doing it now, but for drugs, well, the brain doesn't function in a normal way and most of us have done bad things. No one who has watched your struggles would call you a piece of shxt. But the fact is, NO ONE should be called a piece of shxt here no matter what they've done. My advice to the kid was come clean to mom and get yourself some help. My advice to you is as long as youre getting something out of coming here and giving back in return which you are, as long as you have so many friends and advocates, don't let one post or thread change that for you.
NYG | 
11-14-2009, 05:27 PM
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| | You're a class act, Yorkie. | 
11-14-2009, 05:40 PM
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Posts: 186
| | Thanks Opee.... And you're a funny and smart guy with much to offer. So don't sweat the small stuff and stick around -- as long as you are getting something out of it or feel you have something to offer others....
NYG | 
11-14-2009, 08:26 PM
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Posts: 156
| | Guys,
I'm not an addict, but I do come to this website to offer help and hope to people who are seeking it. It seems that everyone got off the topic by taking sides and attacking one another...that's not what this board is for. I hope everyone can be grown up enough and set aside their differences and get back to what we all have come here to do---help others! C'mon folks, everyone plays a vital role here and we need to get back to taking care of business. Have a nice day. | 
11-15-2009, 03:07 AM
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Posts: 6,164
| | Opee, Newyorkgal, and anybody else, no I wasn't talking about anybody other then the OP, I know addicts do crummy things, but like I already said "there's a line that decent people never cross", and if you cross it yeah, you're not very decent in my book, but I'm not going to say redemption is not possible. Oh, I guess I did make a rather snide comment to Cheekysod about "the code of honor among brethren", which is a statement I will not retract, because I don't tolerate that type of mentality, there's no excusing it, what the OP did is in-defendable, but I was mostly only angry at Cheekysod for jumping down Robert's throat because he didn't deserve it and it was a personal attack for no good reason.
Opee, you asked about me, Idk what gave you the impression I was an addict? I have some CP, and at one point in time I was dependant on pain meds, I never abused them, I got to the point that they made my pain worse, so I quit, I went through w/d's,and learned a lot of things along the way, and no I never did crummy things. You obviously regret stealing your mom's pills, no I don't think you're a POS for doing it, that's the difference between you and the OP, I like your posts and hope you stick around. I work this site because I like helping people, making a difference when I can, and educating myself and others, I say what has to be said, some like it, some don't, take it or leave it, but that's how I am, and will continue to be. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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