[angela3roses]

angela3roses@hotmail.com

[dktsaidhey]

Originally Posted by mpvt

What people don't understand about drugs like buprenorphene(subutex,suboxone) and methadone is that they are not just switching one addictive opiate to another.These drugs stop the addictive behaviour such as drug seeking,stealing,taking handfuls of opiates ect.
Once a patient is stabilized then they stop all the addictive behaviour,no withdrawls and no cravings.This allows them to work on getting their lives back on track while at the same time educating themselves on their addiction.Once they and the doctor decide that they are ready to wean off the drug then a very slow taper is started.This usually takes up to a year as coming off to quickly almost always leads to relapse.
This method is the proven gold standard and is the way of the future as more and more meds are being developed with less side effects.......Dave

Now I finally read something on here that I can agree with. Taking suboxene by a physician is legal and you don't have to lie, cheat, steal or spend your families savings on drug seeking. You don't have to be a pin cushion either, and decrease the risk of disease. Yes there are side effects and the w/d can be difficult but this drug was very helpful for me. Everyone is different and process meds differently I will agree. This certainly was better than trying to kick the opiates on my own. PS: I am not a drug or rehab salesperson either.

[alibi]

Originally Posted by TKeith

Hello,
I was addicted to Ultram for seven years. The withdrawls were miserable. I tried going "cold turkey" and traditional rehab. Neither worked. I finally went to a detox clnic. That was the only thing that worked for me. I have spoken with many Ultram dependent people as well as others who were dependent on Vicodin, Lortab, and Percocet. It appeared that Ultram withdrawls were more severe and people had a much harder time detoxing from Ultram.

I am throughly confused on why Ultram has not become a controlled substance. I am also puzzled as to why some doctors still view this medication as non-addictive.

On another note, Ultram is a very good medication and works well for some people. It just needs to be more controlled.

Feel free to ask me about my withdrawls and recovery.

Thanks.

I have been reading these posts and saw the reference. I live minutes from there, contacted them and feel it's the first step to kicking a 7 year Ultram habit. THANK YOU!

[xstre001m]

Is it really simple??? I shattered my pelvis back in 98. Three major surgerys, 14 pins and about twelve inches of strap holding it all in place. One year in a wheel chair. I have tried just about everything and in every combination. This is what works best for me: Tramadol and Gabapentin. I have been on these for over six years. I have tried to quit just to see if I really needed them. That was a mistake. It almost took my life. Unfortunately I will be on these the rest of my life. Somewhere I developed RLS [Severe] and the Tramadol is the "only" drug that completly relieve's the symptoms. The Gabapentin is great for nerve damage pain and seems to keep me in the calm...My insurance covers both of these. Otherwise I would be very poor. Neurontin is not cheap at all. I guess too alot of people Tramadol is a bad thing but not to me. They do work for the pain, wakes me up, helps me sleep and dose not give me any bad side effects. Since when is Tramadol a narcotic? It should be on the counter....

[sasquatch69]

Originally Posted by xstre001m

Since when is Tramadol a narcotic? It should be on the counter....

You are wrong. For many users, Tramadol IS a narcotic. A narcotic is any drug that can cause an addiction or dependency, and I know from experience that tramadol can be very addicting and extremely difficult to quit. Diff people react differently to it. I assume you've been reading all these posts about tramadol addiction and withdrawl? For those who still dont believe, tramadol can be VERY addictive and withdrawl can be a nightmare.
When you say "It should be on the counter", did you mean to say it should be sold "over the counter"? If so, then I'm glad you are not a medical professional.

I predict that tramadol will someday be scheduled. As we get more information and experiences with the drug, most bad reports outweigh the good. It has only mild pain relieving effects in most users (not as much as a pure opiate), and these reports of dependence should, hopefully, make the FDA stand up and take notice.

I've been dependent on tramadol for 3 years now. If I do not take it for even one day, my head begins to spin and I get those frustrating "brain zaps", and body shivers, and mild convulsions.
I have leveled out at 150mg in the AM and another 150mg in the PM, and try no to get above that.
I started taking it for pain in the back and legs after a car accident. I know I am dependent and have discussed it with my Dr., although he (like many other docs) knows very little about it and its addictive potential. So he doesnt really understand what I go through when I stop taking it.

A lot of Doctors are uneducated about tramadol withdrawl.

I agree with another poster who postulated that some of the W/D symptoms of tramadol have to do with not only the opioid receptor issue, but also the seretonin and norepinephrine boost. As you quit taking tramadol, the sudden drop in these two chemicals can compound the pain and discomfort during withdrawl.

Many years ago, I took an anti depressant SSRI (I think it was Lexapro or Celexa). I took it for only a month, I was misdiagnosed with depression. After I stopped taking the SSRI (actually it was an SNRI), I had the same "brain zaps" and chronic yawning and tears that Tramadol withdrawl can produce.

So here I am, still taking tramadol. I no longer receive any therapudic help from it, I just take it because I'm dependent. Sort of scared to stop because I've tried to stop before with tremendous w/d symptoms. I want to stop again, but looking for a better way than just cold turkey.

[xstre001m]

Originally Posted by sasquatch69

You are wrong. For many users, Tramadol IS a narcotic. A narcotic is any drug that can cause an addiction or dependency, and I know from experience that tramadol can be very addicting and extremely difficult to quit. Diff people react differently to it. I assume you've been reading all these posts about tramadol addiction and withdrawl? For those who still dont believe, tramadol can be VERY addictive and withdrawl can be a nightmare.
When you say "It should be on the counter", did you mean to say it should be sold "over the counter"? If so, then I'm glad you are not a medical professional.

I predict that tramadol will someday be scheduled. As we get more information and experiences with the drug, most bad reports outweigh the good. It has only mild pain relieving effects in most users (not as much as a pure opiate), and these reports of dependence should, hopefully, make the FDA stand up and take notice.

I've been dependent on tramadol for 3 years now. If I do not take it for even one day, my head begins to spin and I get those frustrating "brain zaps", and body shivers, and mild convulsions.
I have leveled out at 150mg in the AM and another 150mg in the PM, and try no to get above that.
I started taking it for pain in the back and legs after a car accident. I know I am dependent and have discussed it with my Dr., although he (like many other docs) knows very little about it and its addictive potential. So he doesnt really understand what I go through when I stop taking it.

A lot of Doctors are uneducated about tramadol withdrawl.

I agree with another poster who postulated that some of the W/D symptoms of tramadol have to do with not only the opioid receptor issue, but also the seretonin and norepinephrine boost. As you quit taking tramadol, the sudden drop in these two chemicals can compound the pain and discomfort during withdrawl.

Many years ago, I took an anti depressant SSRI (I think it was Lexapro or Celexa). I took it for only a month, I was misdiagnosed with depression. After I stopped taking the SSRI (actually it was an SNRI), I had the same "brain zaps" and chronic yawning and tears that Tramadol withdrawl can produce.

So here I am, still taking tramadol. I no longer receive any therapudic help from it, I just take it because I'm dependent. Sort of scared to stop because I've tried to stop before with tremendous w/d symptoms. I want to stop again, but looking for a better way than just cold turkey.

Keep your fascist remarks to yourself. Apparently you need to go back to elementary school and learn how to read and spell. That's ok. Take another Prozac and you'll be fine.

[ianjonesusa]

As soon as I got my driving license, I hit the road with my new motorcycle. I wanted to overcome all possible limits and drove as fast as I could. The road was slippery and you can probably guess what happened. I crashed into a tree and suffered multiple injuries. I woke up in the hospital, remembering only bits of the accident and discovered I could not talk as I was intubated. It took three days for the doctors to remove the intubation tube and they explained to me all that happened. Tramadol was among the many drugs I was being administered, as pain-relieving medication. The dosage was increased up to 300 mg/day and I was able to recover from the accident. After two months I was released from the hospital and continued to take Tramadol for another six. Feeling nauseous all the time, I returned to the doctor and we discussed about the possibility of stopping the treatment. He advised against abrupt stopping and it took another month for the treatment to be put to an end.

[sasquatch69]

Originally Posted by ianjonesusa

As soon as I got my driving license, I hit the road with my new motorcycle. I wanted to overcome all possible limits and drove as fast as I could. The road was slippery and you can probably guess what happened. I crashed into a tree and suffered multiple injuries. I woke up in the hospital, remembering only bits of the accident and discovered I could not talk as I was intubated. It took three days for the doctors to remove the intubation tube and they explained to me all that happened. Tramadol was among the many drugs I was being administered, as pain-relieving medication. The dosage was increased up to 300 mg/day and I was able to recover from the accident. After two months I was released from the hospital and continued to take Tramadol for another six. Feeling nauseous all the time, I returned to the doctor and we discussed about the possibility of stopping the treatment. He advised against abrupt stopping and it took another month for the treatment to be put to an end.

Did you have any problems stopping? Or are you still taking it?

[ianjonesusa]

Originally Posted by sasquatch69

Did you have any problems stopping? Or are you still taking it?

I didnt, I dont need it anymore...

[mar5060]

I stumbled on this tread by accident and really felt the need to post in hopes of helping someone out there. I am 57 and work at a desk all day. A couple of years ago, also having a nursing licence, I took on part time work in a nursing home. By the end of the day my feet were hurting so bad all I could do was go home and put them up. Someone gave me some Tramadol and it really helped. They gave it to me because they said it was of no use to them - obviously it does work differently on different people. Being a nurse, knowing about drugs, I didn't feel worried about taking it, it was not a narcotic and not even a controlled substance. I only worked on the weekends, only took the Tramadol once a day on the weekends and felt no addictions. On the other hand, along with taking away my pain it improved my mood and gave me energy. It also took away my appetite. It wasn't long before I decided that taking it once a day wouldn't be a bad thing, I was losing weight and feeling good. Remember - this wasn't even prescribed to me by a dr. I got it from family members - and even ordered it on the internet. I had to go into the hospital for a minor procedure so naturally had to quit taking the Tramadol. I was shocked at how bad the withdrawal hit me! I had only been taking 50-100mg a day! I was so dizzy, had no energy, I was miserable - I surely knew I had a problem. I could've kicked it then and there but the Dr gave some Darvocet after the procedure and that took away most, if not all of the Tramadol withdrawl. No way was I going to resort to trying to get narcotics off the internet or beg them from Drs so a short time later I was back taking my small dosage of Tramadol - I had quit nursing again so I had no pain but living under a lot of family related stress and felt a need for the lift the Tramadol was giving me. A couple of time I tried to cut down and or quit and couldn't do it. I did tell my PCP that I had some depression - I've battled depression several times in my life with various antidepressants, never liked taking them. Paxil put 15lbs on me in a month! He gave me Cymbalta, I researched it and found out it was totally contraindicated with Tramadol but I started on it, put the Tramadol away and braced for the worst. Guess what, the worst never happened. I had a few side effects from the Cymbalta for a few days but no withdrawl at all like before from the Tramadol. I am starting to feel better, the Cymbalta is helping me but most importantly, I am only on medications that are prescribed for me by my own doctor. I will never take Tramadol again. It should ruled a controlled substance and more people should be aware of the risks associated with it. I never had a drug or alcohol problem before in my life until the Tramadol!

[creatine]

hi there...I red this topic with your comments....It's real helpful info...Thanks to everybody

[leowd]

I took tramadol after my hip surgery, and because I was seeing (IMHO) a psych who was long overdue for retirement...he kept refilling it...for 3 years.

2 weeks ago, I found out that yes, it does have effects on serotonin and is contraindicated (read: don't take) with other SSRIs like Lexapro. It produces a synergistic effect and can put you into 'serotonergic syndrome'--kind of like ODing on serotonin--not fun. And then you'll have the pleasure of withdrawal as you come down!

So, my humble advice is use caution. And when you see any doc, come prepared; do your research, com with a list of questions. I wish I had more often.

Thanks.

[shannonp71]

here's my deal with ultram....i have MD and suffer cronic pain about everywhere. 6 yrs ago i was put on ultram and told, ''they're non-narcotic and non-addictive''.

they arent narcotics, true, but not addictive? not true. HOWEVER, i dont think the word ''addictive'' is proper. i think the better term is ''dependent''. personally, i dont crave them, look forwards to taking them, and they help my pain in no way.

but, if i dont take them daily i get ill with flu-like symptoms until i take them. at first they helped slightly, then like everything, the ''newness'' wares off so i started taking wayyyyyyyy more. as of three yrs ago, six 50mg every morning seemed to work best....

but after hearing about the liver probs and im sure belly probs as id take them on an empty stomache coz im not a breakfast person, i started weaning off them like 3 yrs ago...and unfortunately im only down to 3 and a half a day. each time i go down a dosage i go down a half a pill, even that small amount screws me up for several weeks....but ill get there.

good luck to you all trying to get off these.....
shannon

[kmoon33]

ok. my girlfriend has been addicted to tramadol for 6-7 months now. she has been taking them from work. it got bad when she started doing 15-20 a day. she had her first seizure at a wendy's. was off alittle but got back on like a week later. after that, she has had 4 more seizures in the past 5-6 months. few nights before she had them, she couldn't sleep well and twitched alot.

She hasn't had a siezure for about month and half now and is down to 1-2 pills a day just to not withdrawl. a few days ago she called out of work and is now pretty much fired. she is out of pills and is right very now is in the middle of her first day without them. We got some maryjane to try and help but she wanted alcohol too. she became to drunk without little to eat and threw up after about an 1 hour from smoking. now she is in bed and tossing and turning all about and jerking around alittle. should i take her to the hospital or is their anything else i can do to ease it. hot green tea or something? please help! email me if you want at keanelp@yahoo.com thanks all!

[sasquatch69]

Originally Posted by kmoon33

ok. my girlfriend has been addicted to tramadol for 6-7 months now. she has been taking them from work. it got bad when she started doing 15-20 a day. she had her first seizure at a wendy's. was off alittle but got back on like a week later. after that, she has had 4 more seizures in the past 5-6 months. few nights before she had them, she couldn't sleep well and twitched alot.

She hasn't had a siezure for about month and half now and is down to 1-2 pills a day just to not withdrawl. a few days ago she called out of work and is now pretty much fired. she is out of pills and is right very now is in the middle of her first day without them. We got some maryjane to try and help but she wanted alcohol too. she became to drunk without little to eat and threw up after about an 1 hour from smoking. now she is in bed and tossing and turning all about and jerking around alittle. should i take her to the hospital or is their anything else i can do to ease it. hot green tea or something? please help! email me if you want at keanelp@yahoo.com thanks all!

You might want to take her to a clinic for detox, at least to get their recommendation about what to do. Proper detox isnt critical, many have kicked it on their own, but detox eases the process if it's done right.
Another thing that can help with the w/d drawls is benadryl. It seems to take the edge off some of the symptoms and can help with sleep.

[ils]

started taking trams about a year ago, recreational-stupid i know,had no idea they were addictive(ofcourse)only knew they made me feel awesome plus theyr cheap here where i live.used to take 3 50mg /day, then increased to 4 when 3 failed to give me the kicks then 5 etc

anyways about 5months ago i was taking arnd 10/day (like 5 in the morning and 5 in the evening)..

somewhere along the line i realised i was addicted and that took the fun so i tried to quit then had real bad withdrawal syndromes i couldnt take it so stay on them blah blah blah u know the story but then..........i got pregnant. so i HAD to quit. anyway we here all know thats not easy. doctor advised to temper off and so i did to about 4/day then 3 then 2 then 1-within the 1st month..then i was on 1 for about wat...a week then tried to get off but i had the pain..tried again a couple times,stil dint work, so i stayed on 1..then b4 u knw it then 1 pill couldnt last me the whole day (not anymore about the 'kicks' u see) i got realy sick in the evenings..so sumhow i was back on 2..now theres no need to judge cause i already hate myself.

so i went back to the doctor and asked for sum sorta sub for the trams...something safe for the baby..he gave me DOLO NEUROIBION ..that was yesterday. so todays my first day on them and off trams and although i am feeling most of the physical pains (got better as the day progressed) i am NOT FREAKING OUT like usual when i try to go without trams-which i always find is the worst of all the withdrawal symptoms...i am in a sumwhat foul mood but once again ppl NOT freaking out.

im at work now so wil have to see l8r how it works out tonight cause usually the withdrawal prevents me from sleeping (cause u see i FREAK OUT) anyway will post again to let you knw whether or not its working cause if it does that b pretty cool cause supposedly these dolo neurobion thingies arent addictive or bad for you in any way cause i think theyre sum sort of vitamins or something (although check with ur doctor or research first) but yeah, will let u knw

good luck everyone (and me!)

[ils]

started taking trams about a year ago, recreational-stupid i know,had no idea they were addictive(ofcourse)only knew they made me feel awesome plus theyr cheap here where i live.used to take 3 50mg /day, then increased to 4 when 3 failed to give me the kicks then 5 etc

anyways about 5months ago i was taking arnd 10/day (like 5 in the morning and 5 in the evening)..

somewhere along the line i realised i was addicted and that took the fun so i tried to quit then had real bad withdrawal syndromes i couldnt take it so stay on them blah blah blah u know the story but then..........i got pregnant. so i HAD to quit. anyway we here all know thats not easy. doctor advised to temper off and so i did to about 4/day then 3 then 2 then 1-within the 1st month..then i was on 1 for about wat...a week then tried to get off but i had the pain..tried again a couple times,stil dint work, so i stayed on 1..then b4 u knw it then 1 pill couldnt last me the whole day (not anymore about the 'kicks' u see) i got realy sick in the evenings..so sumhow i was back on 2..now theres no need to judge cause i already hate myself.

so i went back to the doctor and asked for sum sorta sub for the trams...something safe for the baby..he gave me DOLO NEUROIBION ..that was yesterday. so todays my first day on them and off trams and although i am feeling most of the physical pains (got better as the day progressed) i am NOT FREAKING OUT like usual when i try to go without trams-which i always find is the worst of all the withdrawal symptoms...i am in a sumwhat foul mood but once again ppl NOT freaking out.

im at work now so wil have to see l8r how it works out tonight cause usually the withdrawal prevents me from sleeping (cause u see i FREAK OUT) anyway will post again to let you knw whether or not its working cause if it does that b pretty cool cause supposedly these dolo neurobion thingies arent addictive or bad for you in any way cause i think theyre sum sort of vitamins or something (although check with ur doctor or research first) but yeah, will let u knw

good luck everyone (and me!)

[ils]

Originally Posted by kmoon33

ok. my girlfriend has been addicted to tramadol for 6-7 months now. she has been taking them from work. it got bad when she started doing 15-20 a day. she had her first seizure at a wendy's. was off alittle but got back on like a week later. after that, she has had 4 more seizures in the past 5-6 months. few nights before she had them, she couldn't sleep well and twitched alot.

She hasn't had a siezure for about month and half now and is down to 1-2 pills a day just to not withdrawl. a few days ago she called out of work and is now pretty much fired. she is out of pills and is right very now is in the middle of her first day without them. We got some maryjane to try and help but she wanted alcohol too. she became to drunk without little to eat and threw up after about an 1 hour from smoking. now she is in bed and tossing and turning all about and jerking around alittle. should i take her to the hospital or is their anything else i can do to ease it. hot green tea or something? please help! email me if you want at keanelp@yahoo.com thanks all!

im going through basically the same thing..first day off tramadols..at work rite now...whole body aches but im surprisingly pretty chilled...my doctor gave me dolo neurobion for the withdrawal pain...so far it seems to be helping lots...the trouble sleeping and twitching and jerking-that happens to me too whenever i try to go on without trams (have tried several times) always end up giving up--except once and what happened was i just carried on that way til morning and had to go to work on no sleep

if u have a doctor u can trust (one who wont just give her sumthing that gets her off trams then on something else) mite b a good idea to get professional help.

btw i tried pot and alcohol too but never seemed to work for me.pain from thje withdrawal just too damn strong.alcohol helped with the sleep but then i wake up in the most horrible mood and pot makes me worse.but i guess every1 is diff

[Tasharina]

I used to be a ballerina and have suffered off and on, throughout my life, with leg cramps.

I always keep a supply of Hyland's Leg Cramp with Quinine pills.

Sometimes, when my Tramadol order is delayed and I have to go through those horrible withdrawls, before my order is fixed, I put a few of those pills under my tongue.

They are all natural and they seem to help with the jumpy nerve thing.

To me, that is the most uncomfortable part, making it hard to sit still, think or sleep.

Plus, they don't seem to add any other unwwanted side affects with what I am already experiencing.

They can be searched under Hyland's Leg Cramps with Quinine. And they are suppose to be safe with other drugs.

If you are interested, read up on it.

I can say it does help me some.

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by Tasharina

I used to be a ballerina and have suffered off and on, throughout my life, with leg cramps.

I always keep a supply of Hyland's Leg Cramp with Quinine pills.

Sometimes, when my Tramadol order is delayed and I have to go through those horrible withdrawls, before my order is fixed, I put a few of those pills under my tongue.

They are all natural and they seem to help with the jumpy nerve thing.

To me, that is the most uncomfortable part, making it hard to sit still, think or sleep.

Plus, they don't seem to add any other unwwanted side affects with what I am already experiencing.

They can be searched under Hyland's Leg Cramps with Quinine. And they are suppose to be safe with other drugs.

If you are interested, read up on it.

I can say it does help me some.

I just did some reading on the web site for Hyland's Leg Cramps. Sounded very interesting. I have never heard of this before. If I may ask how long have you used this? Have you had any side effects from the pills at all?

Lots of people who post on this forum especially those going through detox from pain meds experience lots of pain in legs as well as RLS. So I am simply wanting to know anything from you about your personal experience that you wouldn't mind sharing. We know that all companies have cool web sites to promote their products. Credible personal experience means a lot to me.

The company offered free samples from the web site and didn't even require me to pay shipping costs. So naturally I went ahead and accepted their offer. They said the sample would arrive within a couple weeks. Is there anything specific that you can share about your experience with this? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer and also thanks for the web site info.

[Tasharina]

I found this a few years ago, when I started experiencing leg cramps again. It seemed that these cramps could have been restarted from the onset of Menopause. But then, it seems I am able to blame a lot of stuff on that..lol.

When I was looking thru a Natural Remedy Catalog, I spied Hyland's leg Cramp pill and cream. So, I ordered them both.

When I was experiencing the horrible Tramadol w/d twitches, they reminded me of an oncoming leg cramp, of which I am very familiar with. But, since I knew it was w/d, I didn't think of it as a leg cramp at first.

Then, as the discomfort increased, my mind raced around and came to the conclusion that it was very leg cramp like. Then I remembered I had planned for something lilke this and remembered my Hyland's Leg Cramp pills, so I took a few.

The intensity of the muscle spasms reduced within a few minutes and got to the point where they were no longer a major concern for me.

I don't remember how long ago this was exactly, maybe 2 years ago. But, ever since then, the times when my order is messed up longer than I have my saved emergency supply for, I have used them, and they have helped.

I have never experienced any side effects except the helping with the w/d muscle spasms. When my muscles calm down, it helps me to calm down and the whole w/d seems bearable.

During these times, I try to stay as calm as possible, not listening to the news or playing WoW, which gets me worked up. Plus, I meditate and pray. This helps me to keep a good, positive emotional and spiritual outlook, that helps me also.

Since I only take them when the need arises. I can't attest to any effects that long term constant use of the pills would be.

Since, everyone reacts differently to meds, I also can't attest to that these pills will do the same thing for everyone, and would advise people who are on other meds to check to make sure they are safe to take.

When in the middle of Tramadol w/d any relief is greatly appreciated. Therefore, I posted this in hopes to help others.

I hope I answered your questions Robert, and pray you find some relief, if and when you have to go thru this.

PS: If anyone tries these, please post of they helped or not.

[Robert_325]

Thanks for the reply. This really isn't for me. I make some suggestions to people who post on this forum. I was thinking these might help some of them more than myself. But I will keep this in mind. Thanks again.

[Tasharina]

You are welcome Robert. You must be a nice person to want to help others in pain

One other thing I wanted to mention is that the last few times I took them after the symptoms arose.

I wanted to say that I am going thru a mini w/d, as I'm using my emergency supply very sparingling.

This time, I started taking them ahead of time and I haven't experienced any of the leg spasms I usually would have by now.

I don't even want my pain receptors to awaken, because when they do, they are very pissed at me.

[Tasharina]

Well, I made it thru the weekend on one pill a day and with Hyland's Leg Cramp meds. I was able to sleep and eat and feel okay.

Usually, at that amount, I would have been awake the whole weekend unable to eat.

My order came thru, so I don't have to find out how it would be cold turkey with Hyland's.

Also, another thing I do that I think helps.

I regularly put myself thru a mini withdrawl.

When I find myself having to take more and more for the same results, I start weaning myself off for a few weeks.

I don't want my body getting too used to the large amount to where the drug doesn't help with my pain anymore. So, I reduce it to where I am taking less than the prescribed amount and my pain comes back. Then I can restart on the regular amount again and my pain goes away.

I think making my body get used to this also makes the w/d lesser.

I think, the longer i am on a certain amount, the more my body gets used to that and rebels at any change to lessen it. So, I think the more I don't let my body get too used to the same thing, the easier it is for it to adjust to differences.

This is just a theory, and I would hope anyone who reads my suggestions would be careful if applying them to themselves.

If you are fortunate to have a doctor, you should discuss any new meds you take or any changes in dosage.

If you don't have a doctor, research everything thoroughly first.

[weee96]

I have taken Tramadol for 4 years and it helps my pain quite a bit. I also however am physically dependent on it and have tried to not take it several times and just couldn't get through it. My opinion on why its so hard is it affects seratonin like an antidepressant (gives you the AD withdrawal symptoms) AND opiate withdrawal symptoms at the same time which makes it that much harder to not take. I have been dependent on hydrocodone in the past and kicking that was simple compared to this stuff, yet tramadol isnt even controlled and hydrocodone is schedule III. Eventually I hope to not be dependent on it but it DOES help me and my doc seems to think its no big issue so I guess im fine for now.

[medalan]

Last month i had an accident with my car, i had a broke leg and some hits in my hed. Since last week the pain came´s back, my doctor recommended me tramadol, but my father had problems with that medicine in the past ( like allergies ), and maybe i would experiment the same problem.
I hope that someone here give me an answer, like secundary effects in some pacients

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Alan Spencer
MedpillsRx - A Better Care

[thatgirl1971]

Originally Posted by Casey55

lwmol,

Who told you Ultram is an SSRI? The SSRI's are Prozac, Luvox, Paxil, Zoloft, Celexa and Lexapro. When you look up Ultram it says not to take SSRIs with Ultram.

Also, Seratonin Syndrome is not withdrawl of an SSRI, it is a toxic overdose of Seratonin.

Casey

I had two family members, both on SSRI's taking Tramadol (too much of it), and they both started having seizures. The doctors never told them not to take their SSRI with Tramadol.

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by thatgirl1971

I had two family members, both on SSRI's taking Tramadol (too much of it), and they both started having seizures. The doctors never told them not to take their SSRI with Tramadol.

Seizures are a side effect of too high of a tramadol dose. Also really bad news to take large amounts of tramadol with SSRIs. Drs should know better than mixing especially with high doses. That would make me very upset if my dr did that to a family member. How much tramadol were they taking and how much of the ssri?

[thatgirl1971]

Originally Posted by Robert_325

Seizures are a side effect of too high of a tramadol dose. Also really bad news to take large amounts of tramadol with SSRIs. Drs should know better than mixing especially with high doses. That would make me very upset if my dr did that to a family member. How much tramadol were they taking and how much of the ssri?

I'm not real sure, Robert. I can tell you they are both addicts. My uncle would take 300 mg of Zoloft a day and chew up 15 Tramadol along with it. He started having severe seizures. It didn't occur to me until my sister, who is also an addict was on Cymbalta. I was talking to her on the phone, and the next minute, I could only hear her little boy. I was yelling for her son to get on the phone, and he told me that mommy fell down. I drove like a maniac to her house, and she was fine. She had no recollection of the seizure. It happened once more, and I think she gave up abusing the Tramadol.

I was in ER one time, and the doc asked me what meds I was taking. I told him Cymbalta. He was going to prescribe Tramadol, and I told him I heard that wasn't a good idea with the Cymbalta. He said, "Fine, then, I won't write you for anything."

[cleubert]

Originally Posted by kittokat

I just don't get it. I've been on Tramadol for about 5 months now and I don't feel like it does a bloody thing. It doesn't get rid of my pain. My doc even said take it up to 4 times a day. I pop those pills like candy and I don't feel anything. I can't believe other people feel addicted to it, it really surprises me. But it works for others too? It gets rid of your pain????? I got some Darvocet now but still have my Tramadol. I have fibromyalgia and I just want the pain to stop. Docs worry so much about being addicted to a med than they do stopping your pain. Anyway, does Tramadol work? That's my question! I can't believe it works!

Little known fact: Genetically only 50% of people can "feel" anything from taking Tramadol.