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Old 01-20-2009, 01:51 PM
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Unhappy Suboxone isnt working for me.

My husband recently got clean from a lortab and oxycontin addiction and is doing great so it made me want to break my addiction from lortab as well.I wouldnt say my addiction was incredibly terrible because i was only taking 4-6 but my doctor was prescribing 4 a day.It was getting worse by the day.

So heres my problem.I stopped taking the lortab for set amount of days and i went into withdrawls started taking the suboxone and it made me feel okay (not great) the first day.(ive taken it for about a week now) Well as days go by im getting sicker and sicker.Yesterday i felt really messed up and disoriented. I have to lay down every 30 minutes or so because i get such a bad headache but when i lay down for like 10 minutes and im alright.Im nauseous alot and i break out in a sweat and sometimes feel like a zombie.

I wake up in the morning and im great, where as when i was talking lortab i had to wake up and take something and wait 30 minutes.But i take the soboxone and feel like ********.

I thought i was taking to much at first (i took half of an 8/5 every 4 hours) so ive been taking quarters of it every four hours but im still feeling sick.

Why is this making me feel terrible when its making my husband feel great?

If soboxone is making me feel this terrible id rather go back to taking the 4-6 lortabs a day because atleast then i could get out of bed and take care of my kids.
Im so frustrated!
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Old 01-20-2009, 02:50 PM
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My husband recently got clean from a lortab and oxycontin addiction and is doing great so it made me want to break my addiction from lortab as well.I wouldnt say my addiction was incredibly terrible because i was only taking 4-6 but my doctor was prescribing 4 a day.It was getting worse by the day.

So heres my problem.I stopped taking the lortab for set amount of days and i went into withdrawls started taking the suboxone and it made me feel okay (not great) the first day.(ive taken it for about a week now) Well as days go by im getting sicker and sicker.Yesterday i felt really messed up and disoriented. I have to lay down every 30 minutes or so because i get such a bad headache but when i lay down for like 10 minutes and im alright.Im nauseous alot and i break out in a sweat and sometimes feel like a zombie.

I wake up in the morning and im great, where as when i was talking lortab i had to wake up and take something and wait 30 minutes.But i take the soboxone and feel like ********.

I thought i was taking to much at first (i took half of an 8/5 every 4 hours) so ive been taking quarters of it every four hours but im still feeling sick.

Why is this making me feel terrible when its making my husband feel great?

If soboxone is making me feel this terrible id rather go back to taking the 4-6 lortabs a day because atleast then i could get out of bed and take care of my kids.
Im so frustrated!
I would have recommended a cold turkey detox instead of suboxone for your addiction.Sub is a powerful drug.Suboxone also stays in your system a long time because of its long half life.You have a lot of it in your system now.I think you are still taking way too much.2mg every 4 hours = 10 to 12 mg a day.If I were you I would stop dosing every four hours.You really only need to dose twice a day.I am not sure if you are asking for advice or not but here is my 2 cents.Starting tomorrow cut back to 3mg in the morning and 3 mg in the evening and see if this helps.If you have a cooperative Dr maybe you could talk him in to giving you subutex instead of suboxone.Some people have bad reactions to the nalaxone in suboone.I think you are just taking too much.Especially when you were only taking 6 lortabs a day.Good luck and I hope you start feeling better soon.MM
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Old 01-20-2009, 03:12 PM
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My husband recently got clean from a lortab and oxycontin addiction and is doing great so it made me want to break my addiction from lortab as well.I wouldnt say my addiction was incredibly terrible because i was only taking 4-6 but my doctor was prescribing 4 a day.It was getting worse by the day.

So heres my problem.I stopped taking the lortab for set amount of days and i went into withdrawls started taking the suboxone and it made me feel okay (not great) the first day.(ive taken it for about a week now) Well as days go by im getting sicker and sicker.Yesterday i felt really messed up and disoriented. I have to lay down every 30 minutes or so because i get such a bad headache but when i lay down for like 10 minutes and im alright.Im nauseous alot and i break out in a sweat and sometimes feel like a zombie.

I wake up in the morning and im great, where as when i was talking lortab i had to wake up and take something and wait 30 minutes.But i take the soboxone and feel like ********.

I thought i was taking to much at first (i took half of an 8/5 every 4 hours) so ive been taking quarters of it every four hours but im still feeling sick.

Why is this making me feel terrible when its making my husband feel great?

If soboxone is making me feel this terrible id rather go back to taking the 4-6 lortabs a day because atleast then i could get out of bed and take care of my kids.
Im so frustrated!
Musicman is right. You're probably taking too much for your using history. Everyone is different. Just because a certain amount worked for your husband doesn't mean that same amount would be right for you. This is why there are so many people on this forum with suboxone questions. God bless.
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Old 01-20-2009, 06:27 PM
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Thanks for the input guys.Reading my last post i could tell i was a little messed up but my head is a bit clearer now.
I didnt want to do cold turkey because i had been on them for close to 3 years now.I was scared of the full blown withdrawls and with 2 small children and a husband that works full time i really didnt have the time to go through that.

I eventually want to be off of everything but i guess i want to use this as a step down.

I will start tomarrow taking a dose in the morning and a dose in the evening.The more and more im reading these posts the more im thinking ive just got too much in my system and its likely i dont need much at all.

Since taking suboxone ive had no withdrawl symptoms so i know its somewhat working.Now if i could just feel better.

Thanks again.
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Old 01-20-2009, 06:58 PM
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missfortune .... I would imagine that based on your history you've probably been taking twice what you need. Musicman gave you a good suggestion taking 3mg twice a day.

Cut an 8mg pill into quarters or 2mg pieces. Then half one of the 2mg pieces. Now you have 2mg and 1mg pieces. Take 3mg when you get up, take another 3mg very early evening. Do it the same time each day and let us know how you feel in a day or two. Follow those suggestions and I bet you feel much better before the weekend. Good lucka and God bless.
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Old 01-22-2009, 03:08 AM
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I just wanted to let you guys know how i was feeling and i must say its working so much better just taking 3mg twice a day.I was able to wake up at 5 am and didnt have to take the first dose until close to 9am.Which is amazing, i was so used to having to wait 30-45 minutes after taking 2 lortabs to even be able to move around.The first dose though is still making me feel a bit sick to my stomach but i laid down today for about 45 minutes or so and when i got up i was good to go.(am thinking about taking the last dose a little earlier in the evening so the next morning dose wont make me as sick.)I had plenty of energy to run around with my monsters and clean house and its such a relief not to have to glance at the clock to see when i can have my next dose of lortabs because im hurting so bad.

All in all im very glad i posted here, my doctor is obviously too busy to return phone calls (still no call). Thanks for anwsering my post!
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Old 01-22-2009, 09:44 AM
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I just wanted to let you guys know how i was feeling and i must say its working so much better just taking 3mg twice a day.I was able to wake up at 5 am and didnt have to take the first dose until close to 9am.Which is amazing, i was so used to having to wait 30-45 minutes after taking 2 lortabs to even be able to move around.The first dose though is still making me feel a bit sick to my stomach but i laid down today for about 45 minutes or so and when i got up i was good to go.(am thinking about taking the last dose a little earlier in the evening so the next morning dose wont make me as sick.)I had plenty of energy to run around with my monsters and clean house and its such a relief not to have to glance at the clock to see when i can have my next dose of lortabs because im hurting so bad.

All in all im very glad i posted here, my doctor is obviously too busy to return phone calls (still no call). Thanks for anwsering my post!
Glad you are feeling better.My guess is that you will feel even better tomorrow.Good luck!
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Old 02-01-2009, 10:10 AM
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I would have recommended a cold turkey detox instead of suboxone for your addiction.Sub is a powerful drug.Suboxone also stays in your system a long time because of its long half life.You have a lot of it in your system now.I think you are still taking way too much.2mg every 4 hours = 10 to 12 mg a day.If I were you I would stop dosing every four hours.You really only need to dose twice a day.I am not sure if you are asking for advice or not but here is my 2 cents.Starting tomorrow cut back to 3mg in the morning and 3 mg in the evening and see if this helps.If you have a cooperative Dr maybe you could talk him in to giving you subutex instead of suboxone.Some people have bad reactions to the nalaxone in suboone.I think you are just taking too much.Especially when you were only taking 6 lortabs a day.Good luck and I hope you start feeling better soon.MM
Yes, I agree suboxone is a powerful drug it can make you addict..
Suboxone can cause death from overdose, especially if it is injected with a tranquilizer. Use Suboxone exactly as directed by your doctor.
Suboxone can cause drug dependence. This means that withdrawal symptoms may occur if you stop using Suboxone too quickly. Withdrawal symptoms may also occur at the start of treatment due to dependence on another drug. Suboxone is not for occasional ("as needed") use. Do not stop taking Suboxone without first talking to your doctor. Your doctor may want to gradually reduce the dose to avoid or minimize withdrawal symptoms.

In an emergency, have family members tell emergency room staff that you are taking Suboxone and that you are dependent on opioids.
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Old 02-08-2009, 02:21 AM
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NOOOOO i feel like i gotta step in here and tell you. you sound like youre starting to enter the honey moon phase. im telling you you should quit this ******** as fast as you can. dont get addicted to this ********. read around, suboxone is a way worse kick than lortabs. youre gonna wish you had spend the 4-5 days kicking than kicking for weeks and months sometimes. seriously, you need to taper that ******** before you get addicted.
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Old 02-08-2009, 04:08 AM
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What do you think of a slow taper after 3 weeks of use ? I went from 12 down to 2 and I have read on here the best thing is a slow taper from2 to .5. since Suboxone is opiot replacement arent we more or less addicted when we transfer from our drug of choice to Suboxone?
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:04 AM
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What do you think of a slow taper after 3 weeks of use ? I went from 12 down to 2 and I have read on here the best thing is a slow taper from2 to .5. since Suboxone is opiot replacement arent we more or less addicted when we transfer from our drug of choice to Suboxone?



You've done just fine going from 12mg to 2mg in a few weeks. Follow the taper as we suggest from where you are and you'll be off the suboxone in no time. You're doing just fine. You won't become addicted in a few weeks time at all. The taper plan we recommend works for everyone that uses it properly. God bless.
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Old 02-08-2009, 02:51 PM
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Not everyone feels the same way you feel batss and it just seems like you are running around to every sub topic to talk badly about it.

This medication is working great for both me and my husband.Sure neither one of us needs a very much but our body tells us our limits.Yes, i eventually want to get off completly but my husband has terrible back problems and he will need to stay on something and sub will probably be it.

Your snatching away hope to everyone else, im sure your expirence with sub wasnt so good but its working wonders for other people, we dont need something else to be worried about when were getting our lives back in order.
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Old 02-08-2009, 03:27 PM
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Not everyone feels the same way you feel batss and it just seems like you are running around to every sub topic to talk badly about it.

This medication is working great for both me and my husband.Sure neither one of us needs a very much but our body tells us our limits.Yes, i eventually want to get off completly but my husband has terrible back problems and he will need to stay on something and sub will probably be it.

Your snatching away hope to everyone else, im sure your expirence with sub wasnt so good but its working wonders for other people, we dont need something else to be worried about when were getting our lives back in order.



I agree with you Missfortune. Just continue to do what is working best for you. You're doing fine the way you've tapered down.

You have to understand there will always be people who want to bad mouth something they didn't like. You don't hear from all the people who've been successful doing this, just ones that are suffering usually because they use the subs wrong. The people who had good experiences have moved on with their lives and don't usually post on forums. They're enjoying their lives.

Just keep doing what you're doing and ignore other people's comments that don't help you. God bless.
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Robert is right! Most people that bad mouth ORT (Opaite Replacement Therapy) are just ignorant or they try a few pills from their local dealer who doesn't know anything either. Whats important is that you follow a detox program. A 3 year hydrocodone addiction is enough to change brain chemistry. What ORT does is allows the brain and body to revert back to a normal state or as close as it is capable of doing. So hang in there and stick to your program.....Dave
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