Suboxone

[pcaulder]

Robert Suggested I post this in the forum. I thought maybe I could handle the jump, but after doing some research I think I may have made a big mistake. It's been three days without the 12 mgs of sub, and I don't feel too bad, but I don't feel that great either. I'm think I am going to get back on my medicine and maybe since being off for three days, I can do a lower dose. Anyway, I just posted a copy of the email I sent Robert, instead of retyping everything over again. Thanks for all your help in advance.

Hey Robert,

I know you don't know me and I don't know you, but from browsing over the forums, you seem to be very knowledgeable about sub. Well let me explain my predicament.

I transfered to sub from 70 mgs of methadone about 7-8 months ago. Went through the precip wds, and it was god awful. I started off taking 32 mg which I thought was way too much to begin with, but I took it anyway. Now I am down to 12 mgs a day for the past two months. About a week and a half ago, I started waking up feeling sick in the mornings, and starting to feel sick throughout the day. I know this can't be right because of the long half life. Well, as of friday I decided I was tired of it all and just quit taking it. The first three days have not been that bad but I know I have to go work tomorrow, and I feel like it will probably really turn worse tomorrow. I still have all my sub, and I am considering going back on a lower dose, and trying your taper plan. What would suggest I do? Thanks in advance for your help.

[Robert_325]

You should go back to at least 10mg for a few days. Then we can begin tapering you down properly. I'm on and off the forum for a few days. My fiance is in the hospital so do the 10mg each day for the next few days. Split it into two equal doses each day.

The sub w/d haven't been that noticeable due to the very long half life. You lucked out getting on here and posting your situation. I'll talk to you during the next few days. Just understand I'll be gone some while I'm at the hospital. God bless.

[purpledog]

i started subs yesterday morning, i unfortunately didnt wait long enough till i was properly in withdrawl and did the precipitated withdrawl, oh my god, its horrible. been in bed for 2 days but got up this evening and feel a bit better now. im on 10mg now had 12 yesterday, i have read up tons on this great forum, and boy i know i lucked out to find it alright. i think i will try for 8 tomorrow, and see how i go for a few days. i notice the quicker you get off the better coz after being addicted to methadone for a number of years i dont want to change to another drug of dependence no matter how much of a miracle everyone says it is.
robert and melinda are great people and im lucky to have found them, you fullas are my main support system right now, and the clinic, but they havent actually been thru it.
apparently i will fell a lot better tomorrow, day 3, and day 5 off methadone. and i must admit if i didnt have the subs on board doing their thing i would be a wriggling mess in bed, not being able to sit still for longer than 2 minutes. i do not want to go thru withdrawls again, ive done it before but got back into drugs. so this time the subs might just give me the assistance i need, cant take time off work, had 2 days luckily, they think i am having a "procedure" and im not lying when i say i was bloody sick.
so good luck to everyone else, yesterday i thought id done the wrong thing by jumping off the methadone over to subs and i was reallly sorry for myself coz i pigged out in the last few days and i reallly really paid for it with the precipitated withdrawl. i thought id waited long enough but no, methadone stays in the system for a long time.
so do the subs im told, but im gonna try and make it the 6 to 8 week taper as robert suggests.
good on him, thanks robert.
kiwi

[intelmetal]

Kiwi, Read my thread " Intelmetals own thread ". I think you might find some helpful info there. I was on methadone for over 7 years, up to 360mgs I started subs back in May, and am tapering with great success. I just dropped my dose from .5mgs to .25mgs yesterday. You can do this, you just have to want it bad enough. I am here for you if you have any questions.
IWANTOUT

to live my life and to be free !

[pcaulder]

Thanks for all the reply's everyone. Actually, I decided to take it yesterday afternoon and took 4 mg, and that held me for the rest of the day. Today I took 4 mg this morning and 4 mg this afternoon, and so far I feel great. I'm going to try the 8 mg a least for a few more days to see how it works instead of going back up anymore. I was just on prednisone and avalox for a bad sinus infection, and I think getting over that probably had something to do with the overall yucky feeling I have been feeling the past few weeks. Thanks for everyone for responding.

Purpledog

I know exactly how you feel with the precipitated wds. I made my jump from 70mgs of methadone, and I don't think my doctor was too informed about that aspect of it. Needless to say it was pure hell but 5-6 days I was feeling better but after the third day it really started easing up for me. so hang in there.

Intelmetal

Just reading what you posted here has given me some inspiration, I only spent about 3 years chasing the oc's, and I have been on methadone and suboxone for the last 2 years. So just knowing someone else is doing it with success is good to know. I will definitely read over your thread.

Robert

Should i go ahead and move back up to 10mg or try the 8mg for a few days. I had already taken 8mg today before I was able to read your post.

Thanks and God Bless

[purpledog]

thank you all, wot a great site this aye, i am feeling a lot better today day 3, had 10mgs, feeling fine, no hangs and dont feel like going out to score at all. it did me wonders yesterday reading lots on this forum, from past til now.
it is so good to communicate with people who know what ive been feeling not some doc who has read about it. im gonna stay on 10 for another couple of days and then try 8 and see how i go. called into a mates place today, old mates and they want to see how i do before they might give it a go. so lucky i never seen them on monday or i wouldve said hell dont do it. but thats only my fault coz i was a bit of a pig with the done in the last week, and had heaps. tut tut. but i got well caught out didnt i.
oh well thanks to you guys i hung in there and yep i do feel a lot better day 3 on subs. day 5 without any methadone in my system, i dont really feel stoned, but i feel ok, and i certainly aint hangin out, coz we know how suck that it. cool to talk to you guys, the time difference is pretty major, im 1.20 in the afternooon on wed, so dunno what time it is where you guys are.
awesome and go hard you guys, i guess we can bloody do it aye.
wicked cool
thanks again
kiwi

[Robert_325]

Thanks for all the reply's everyone. Actually, I decided to take it yesterday afternoon and took 4 mg, and that held me for the rest of the day. Today I took 4 mg this morning and 4 mg this afternoon, and so far I feel great. I'm going to try the 8 mg a least for a few more days to see how it works instead of going back up anymore. I was just on prednisone and avalox for a bad sinus infection, and I think getting over that probably had something to do with the overall yucky feeling I have been feeling the past few weeks. Thanks for everyone for responding.

Purpledog

I know exactly how you feel with the precipitated wds. I made my jump from 70mgs of methadone, and I don't think my doctor was too informed about that aspect of it. Needless to say it was pure hell but 5-6 days I was feeling better but after the third day it really started easing up for me. so hang in there.

Intelmetal

Just reading what you posted here has given me some inspiration, I only spent about 3 years chasing the oc's, and I have been on methadone and suboxone for the last 2 years. So just knowing someone else is doing it with success is good to know. I will definitely read over your thread.

Robert

Should i go ahead and move back up to 10mg or try the 8mg for a few days. I had already taken 8mg today before I was able to read your post.

Thanks and God Bless

You can try the 8mg. If you start feeling poorly bump it up to 10mg. No reason to go any higher than you have to. But hold it at that dose for a few days. Let's see how you feel after about Thursday evening or so. Need to go slowly after you stopped like you did. We'll have you back on track and tapering down correctly where it won't be so painful to do. This is too serious to do a cold turkey. You'll be okay. You're obviously willing to follow instructions so you will do well. Hang in there. God bless.

[pcaulder]

Just wanted to post an update

I have been taking 4 mg twice a day, and so far it has been working ok. I feel a little ********py when I wake up in the morning, but that could be because I have to get up at 4:30-5:00 am

[Robert_325]

Just wanted to post an update

I have been taking 4 mg twice a day, and so far it has been working ok. I feel a little ********py when I wake up in the morning, but that could be because I have to get up at 4:30-5:00 am

That could be the case or it could just be that you're ready for the morning dose by the time you take it. Either way it's not anything that is going to mess up your recovery.

It was on the 15th when we decided for you to go with two 4mg doses or 8mg for the day. So you're doing very well. To be honest with you I think you'll be ready to pick up on the taper down pretty quickly now. I want you to be good and stable first but unless the morning thing is more severe than it appears I would not worry about that. Sometimes you can just push the afternoon/evening dose back a couple hours and that will fix it. You have to be the judge on how you feel in the morning as I don't know obviously.

I would take it easy through the weekend at 8mg just like you're doing it. Then come first of the week (as long as you're up to it) I think you should start the taper down by 25%. We'll talk between now and then but just relax and get geared up to start the taper. God bless.

[intelmetal]

Nawny, take your advertising elsewhere, or pay for it like everyone else. You have a lot of nerve coming on here and telling us what we already know, just so you can take advantage of people who are suffering ! Your post was an insult !
IWANTOUT

to live my life and to be free !