[Noeydoves]

I am desperately seeking info about these two drugs. I was injured during a Hysterectomy, my left ureter was injured and ultimately my left kidney shut down. I had immediate left flank pain after hysterectomy, but DR'S would not listen!!!! It took me 4 years to get the DR'S to do the RIGHT tests to find out what was wrong. They finally found the SEVERE HYDRONEPHROSIS and the Left Kidney had finally shut down. I was then brutalized by another less than ethical nor compenant Urologist. I had an OPEN PYELOPLASTY to fix the ureter. MY life has never been the same since that first fateful surgery. I have been damaged beyond belief, and the constant chronic pain has turned my life into a living NIGHTMARE, with no ESCAPE. My question is does or can Morphine make you spasm??? I remember when I had Gallstones and the DRs would not give me Morphine because of the spasming potential. Now my Pain Management and Primary(they work together on this) want to put me back on MS Contin and MSIR. I had a terrible time with it before, did not seem to work. I also had an awlful time with the Morphine when I had second surgery, was in terrible pain when they stopped epidural, 1mg morphine in my vein every 15 to 20 minutes from 2:00pm until 11:00pm, then the Drs finally got the pain under control. I do not believe Morphine works for me. Does anyone know if Demerol may work better??? Can the Morphine cause spasms??? I am in need of help and advice. I am scheduled on March 22nd to see my Neurologist to decide about trying either the spinal cord stimulator or the intra-thecal pump, of course I am not happy about allowing another DR to do any surgery, but this life in pain is not a life.. Please Help,
P.S when they were giving me all that morphine they also were giving me ativan, benydril, and anything else they thought might knock me out, NONE OF IT DID. I was still sreaming in pain, and was up walking, pacing the floor. Noeydoves

[sydbean]

I am so sorry to hear that you are in so much pain. I now have chronic pain due to poor care by my physician and eventual (much too late) surgery to "correct" things. I can fully understand your worry and frustration. I can only speak from my experience and for me...well, I will put it how the nurse did to me (it was the first good laugh I had in weeks) she said that giving me morphine was like "pissin' in the wind". LOL!! She went right to my head dr. at the time and told him that she had been my nurse for the last 24-48 hours and morphine was NOT the ticket. It was such a relief to put down that little cord with the red button that I could press and DID press every 15minutes night and day. This was while I still had a partial spinal block going on...I can't imagine if she didn't speak up for me and they still had me on the morphine when the block was out 100%.


Anyway, yes it is 100 percent likely that you are someone that morphine is not going to work for. And I have heard that over and over from other chronic pain patients. Demerol and NSAIDS together I believe were the ticket for me while I was still in the hospital. So, if that is what you are looking at I would say Demerol for sure as for care as an outpatient I went through all the regular meds without much sucess and finally found at least some relief with Methadone. BUT...that is the big 'ol double edge sword because now I am wanting to get off of it and it is a long slow process and I have said more than once that had I known going in what I know now I might have stayed away.....but hindsight is 20/20 and when I started on the Methadone I would have done anything just to sleep two or three hours in a row without waking up screaming.....


I don't know if my rambling is at all helpful but I hope so....Good luck and just make sure you speak up. Don't let them tell YOU what is best for your pain. You really need to advocate for yourself!! Or if you are not going to be with it enough to do that bring a family member to speak up for you!!!!

[Noeydoves]

Thank-You Syd for your response, and I so sorry for your pain as well. As a fellow "WALKING WOUNDED" I truly know your suffering and Nightmare. If we could only get others to understand and have the compassion we so desperately need and more than deserve. I have been on Methadone for almost a year, unfortunately, I also have had a rare side effect occur from the start of this medicine, it has affected my blood pressure and has caused it to increase and get to where it is totally unacceptable. I also have had terrible sweating with this med, and I can only take a certain brand of it, because as we all know there are huge differences between brands. I was taken off methadone and covered by MSIR, then after 2 weeks would be back at my DRS to figure out what I would need for MS CONTIN.The MSIR is not taking care of the pain. I was in ER last night, and luckily for me I was able to contact my DR after hours. We spoke, and she is switching me off MSIR not starting MS Contin and going to try Demerol, at my suggestion. I know from past with my gall bladder, and what was used during attacks. NO MORPHINE because of spasming. I see my Pain Specialist on Thursday, Today is Tuesday I only have to get through 2 more days. I know I can do this because this is what my life is now about, Trying to stay out of pain. I sometimes wonder if I would have been better off and not had the Hysterectomy, and taken my chances with the cancer, Thats how bad the bad is when it gets out of control, which is at least a couple of times a day. I cannot imagine anyone ever having an elective surgery, The price you pay for a mistake is far to high. Well I have said enough, it is making me cry thinking about what has happened to me, and I cannot tense up, I have to relax and it is time for medicine again(every 2 hours) Please know you are in my prayers, and I hope for you some relief,
Take Care,
Noelle (Noeydoves)