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09-24-2008, 10:50 AM
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| | a million threads of this, SUBOXONE, new patient i was put on this yesterday round 330-430 pm and did 2 doses in the docs office, well first dose i felt a lil dif, second dose half hour later i felt pretty messed up, it was as if i took 4 percs at once, although the most i took was 1 1/2 and once, but besides the point i was sober for say 24 hours before i was put on these to get off opiods, i been on them for 7 years, the hardest stuff was oxycontins 40mg maybe a total of 15 a year ago, then 6-12 a day, daily, so back to the point, im now supposed to take suboxone and its been makeing me feel dizzy/nausea, last night i puked for the first time ever, and have felt a lil better but since i awoke this morning i have felt light headed, i havent taken my 2nd days dose, was goin to wait till round 330 or 430, unless im supposed to take again in morning, the doc told me to take a 1/2 last night if the effect didnt seem like it was there, but i felt pretty messed up so i didnt do it.
any advice would be welcome and appreciated
thanks jw | 
09-24-2008, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by cuningluns i was put on this yesterday round 330-430 pm and did 2 doses in the docs office, well first dose i felt a lil dif, second dose half hour later i felt pretty messed up, it was as if i took 4 percs at once, although the most i took was 1 1/2 and once, but besides the point i was sober for say 24 hours before i was put on these to get off opiods, i been on them for 7 years, the hardest stuff was oxycontins 40mg maybe a total of 15 a year ago, then 6-12 a day, daily, so back to the point, im now supposed to take suboxone and its been makeing me feel dizzy/nausea, last night i puked for the first time ever, and have felt a lil better but since i awoke this morning i have felt light headed, i havent taken my 2nd days dose, was goin to wait till round 330 or 430, unless im supposed to take again in morning, the doc told me to take a 1/2 last night if the effect didnt seem like it was there, but i felt pretty messed up so i didnt do it.
any advice would be welcome and appreciated
thanks jw | Your post is a little confusing.In one sentence you say the most you ever took at one time was 1 1/2 percs...In another sentence you say you took oxy 40s...What was your current habit before you started the Suboxone....What was your daily opiate intake? | 
09-24-2008, 11:08 AM
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| | basically what im saying is, the hardest drug i did was oxy 40's about a year ago, but recently i been doing perc 10's daily for the past year, along with vic 5's 7.5's and 10's but again recently was perc10s, so thats what im saying. i never did morphine or heroin or any of the other stuff, besides methadone 4 years ago, and that was a trial thingy, like 1-3 pills total.
sorry for the confusion.
jw | 
09-24-2008, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by cuningluns basically what im saying is, the hardest drug i did was oxy 40's about a year ago, but recently i been doing perc 10's daily for the past year, along with vic 5's 7.5's and 10's but again recently was perc10s, so thats what im saying. i never did morphine or heroin or any of the other stuff, besides methadone 4 years ago, and that was a trial thingy, like 1-3 pills total.
sorry for the confusion.
jw | Hom many percs a day ? Were you suffering from withdrawal when you took your first suboxone? | 
09-24-2008, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cuningluns basically what im saying is, the hardest drug i did was oxy 40's about a year ago, but recently i been doing perc 10's daily for the past year, along with vic 5's 7.5's and 10's but again recently was perc10s, so thats what im saying. i never did morphine or heroin or any of the other stuff, besides methadone 4 years ago, and that was a trial thingy, like 1-3 pills total.
sorry for the confusion.
jw |
I think musicman is trying to determine if you were actually in severe w/d when you started the suboxone. If you weren't then you could have started the suboxone too quickly and should have waited longer. Suboxone should not make you ill. We are wondering if you are possibly in precipitated w/ds brought on by beginning the suboxone before you were in severe w/ds like you are supposed to be. What was your specific drug consumption amount per day prior to using and how long from your last dose did you go before starting the suboxone? How were you feeling as far as w/d symptoms go when you took the initial dose of suboxone? This is very important to know to give you the right advice. God bless. | 
09-24-2008, 02:15 PM
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I think musicman is trying to determine if you were actually in severe w/d when you started the suboxone. If you weren't then you could have started the suboxone too quickly and should have waited longer. Suboxone should not make you ill. We are wondering if you are possibly in precipitated w/ds brought on by beginning the suboxone before you were in severe w/ds like you are supposed to be. What was your specific drug consumption amount per day prior to using Quote: | i was doing id say 3-4 per day before i quit 3 days ago, and i was given 2 doses of a total of 4 mgs at the dr office, so i was about 36 hours in the wd stage, this would be the 3rd time quitting but the first time with suboxone, so i know the wds blow, i had the aniexaty, i was pretty bored at work although i had a poopload to do, i couldnt stay still in the psychaitrist office, had the good ole runny nose and constant yawning. | and how long from your last dose did you go before starting the suboxone? around 36 hours How were you feeling as far as w/d symptoms go when you took the initial dose of suboxone? This is very important to know to give you the right advice. God bless
| since taking the intial dose and puking in the bathroom, i feel better as with the wd symptoms, now i took another dose today, its an 8mg dose, i havent taken the 2nd one, and i feel light headed, as if i did some pills, in reallity i havent touched them since,monday around 11am, that was the last time i did them. and that was a percocet 10mg or a 10/325 quanity 1. again i feel really i guess nauseated, or light headed after taking that disolved pill under my tongue about 40 mins ago. any help would be appreciated.
also reading your post robert, i seen some pretty darned good advice, and that is another reason why i registered and posted my exp, my doctor told me to call thurs am to report whats happening, and i think im going to report sooner... thoughts?
jw | 
09-24-2008, 03:06 PM
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| | robert,
ok after taking that 8 mg pill i puked every bit of it back up 10 min ago, called my doctor, left message with receptionist, she agreed it didnt seem right, waiting for the dr to call back, after each time before i puke i had something sweet.
yesterday i dosed on empty stomach, then had white castles after,
today i ate mcds rib sandwich then puked again,
so any ideas?
jw | 
09-24-2008, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cuningluns robert,
ok after taking that 8 mg pill i puked every bit of it back up 10 min ago, called my doctor, left message with receptionist, she agreed it didnt seem right, waiting for the dr to call back, after each time before i puke i had something sweet.
yesterday i dosed on empty stomach, then had white castles after,
today i ate mcds rib sandwich then puked again,
so any ideas?
jw  |
I don't really like the way they have you taking the medication for one thing. If I understand correctly you took two doses yesterday totalling 4mg for the day. Then today you took 8mg and threw up, now you are still supposed to take another 8mg yet? Is that correct. (You don't just automatically take a patient from 4mg to 16mg.) Because if it is that is not the correct way to take suboxone. Also some people react to the naloxone that is in the suboxone but do better with subutex which is buprenorphine (same as suboxone) but without the naloxone.
I am thinking you need to switch to subutex first of all and stop the suboxone. If the dr argues do what you like, but I know what I am talking about. The naloxone is ONLY to keep IV drug users from injecting the suboxone. They will get sick. If you don't shoot drugs you should be on the subutex anyway. That is a fact.
Let me know that I understand correctly how you are taking the suboxone. It sounds like you waited long enough to not be in precipitated w/d. You need to switch to subutex and start over again. 4mg is not enough and 16mg is too much. I don't like the way this is being done at all. God bless. |  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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