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Old 11-28-2008, 05:29 PM
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from low back pain that has travelled to my groin and hip area as well as to my thigh. I am in quite a lot of pain. I have given up going to my Dr. as she only prescribes non narcotic pain relief. I don't know if this is because she is taking into consideration that I am on the methadone program (As I write this I realize what an idiotic thing to say,of course she must be taking this into consideration.My real concern is does she suspect that I am displaying 'drug seeking behavior?') I feel I must emphasize that I most definitely am not looking for a way to get high. I am in a great deal of pain. Enough to wake me up every night for the last 3 nights. I have tried several non narcotic meds but nothing is having any effect. I am currently trying to manage the greater part of the pain with, believe it or not,Advil. The bottle says don't take more that 3 or 4 a day but,I have to take 2 500 mg. at a time for any effect and that lasts at most, 4 hours. I wait until I absolutely cannot stand the pain before I take another set because I know eventually these pills won't have any effect at all. The only reason they are working at all is because I haven't taken them for quite a while. Any ways, my question is, why doesn't the methadone minimize or get rid of my pain? Because I have been taking it for a while? And also, what can I take? I was in so much pain before I started the advil I stole some pain meds prescribed for my dog.(they didn't work even 'tho it is Tramadol) I feel very discouraged. I would like to go to my GP and get taken seriously as well as get some relief. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 11-28-2008, 06:11 PM
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from low back pain that has travelled to my groin and hip area as well as to my thigh. I am in quite a lot of pain. I have given up going to my Dr. as she only prescribes non narcotic pain relief. I don't know if this is because she is taking into consideration that I am on the methadone program (As I write this I realize what an idiotic thing to say,of course she must be taking this into consideration.My real concern is does she suspect that I am displaying 'drug seeking behavior?') I feel I must emphasize that I most definitely am not looking for a way to get high. I am in a great deal of pain. Enough to wake me up every night for the last 3 nights. I have tried several non narcotic meds but nothing is having any effect. I am currently trying to manage the greater part of the pain with, believe it or not,Advil. The bottle says don't take more that 3 or 4 a day but,I have to take 2 500 mg. at a time for any effect and that lasts at most, 4 hours. I wait until I absolutely cannot stand the pain before I take another set because I know eventually these pills won't have any effect at all. The only reason they are working at all is because I haven't taken them for quite a while. Any ways, my question is, why doesn't the methadone minimize or get rid of my pain? Because I have been taking it for a while? And also, what can I take? I was in so much pain before I started the advil I stole some pain meds prescribed for my dog.(they didn't work even 'tho it is Tramadol) I feel very discouraged. I would like to go to my GP and get taken seriously as well as get some relief. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
if you are already on methadone you will need to go to a pain management clinic or dr. I know you probably dont want to hear that cause I believe you need a refferal with most ins. companys but it is the best solution nobody without experience with methadone will take you seriously atleast that is my personal experience. also just a warning go to a GI dr atleast once a year while on methadone it covers GI problems well or causes them I dont know for sure but I have had a time with my stomache since getting off it. Good Luck I hope someone takes you seriuosly I know after the 1st year or so most of the acute pain relief properties of methadone are gone something is needed if you have breakthrough pain...be careful
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Old 11-29-2008, 02:36 AM
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from low back pain that has travelled to my groin and hip area as well as to my thigh. I am in quite a lot of pain. I have given up going to my Dr. as she only prescribes non narcotic pain relief. I don't know if this is because she is taking into consideration that I am on the methadone program (As I write this I realize what an idiotic thing to say,of course she must be taking this into consideration.My real concern is does she suspect that I am displaying 'drug seeking behavior?') I feel I must emphasize that I most definitely am not looking for a way to get high. I am in a great deal of pain. Enough to wake me up every night for the last 3 nights. I have tried several non narcotic meds but nothing is having any effect. I am currently trying to manage the greater part of the pain with, believe it or not,Advil. The bottle says don't take more that 3 or 4 a day but,I have to take 2 500 mg. at a time for any effect and that lasts at most, 4 hours. I wait until I absolutely cannot stand the pain before I take another set because I know eventually these pills won't have any effect at all. The only reason they are working at all is because I haven't taken them for quite a while. Any ways, my question is, why doesn't the methadone minimize or get rid of my pain? Because I have been taking it for a while? And also, what can I take? I was in so much pain before I started the advil I stole some pain meds prescribed for my dog.(they didn't work even 'tho it is Tramadol) I feel very discouraged. I would like to go to my GP and get taken seriously as well as get some relief. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.




If the advil is working SOME when you take 1000mg that is good. Get off the OTC advil though and get the dr to RX Ibuprofen 800mg. She won't have a problem with that I can't imagine. You can take three per day easily with no problems. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis, degenerative disc disease, had five knee operations, have several moderate/severe chronic pain problems. Back when I was taking handfulls of oxy every day the ibuprofen didn't help me, but after I got clean it was amazing how much the ibuprofen helped. So its a good sign if the advil are helping.

Have they determined what is causing your pain? That would be my biggest concern. I was asking about the cause as meds work best for specific types of problems. I was curious if your pain was due to nerve-related problems. Sounds like it's possible based on what you shared. Some people are having luck with Lyrica and it's not a narcotic. You might ask about it if you haven't used it before.

If they know the cause of the pain how long do they expect it to last? If it's a long term issue that's one thing. If it's a short acute problem sometimes it's almost as easy to bite the bullet and deal with it if it's not going to last too long. You mentioned the advil helped some. If you were RXd the 800mg and that helped you at all, well that would seem to be better at least and tolerable perhaps for a short time. Perhaps some physical therapy would help some if you haven't been doing any?

I don't know your current methadone dose, how long you've been on it, if it's RXd for pain or if it's due to opiate addiction, etc and none of that is my business. But they are all factors that could explain the reason for the dr's attitude. Sounds like she's doing what she thinks is best. But is she a specialist of some kind or a GP?

Let us know what happens. I hope you try to make it work with the ibuprofen, perhaps some exercise/therapy, something other than narcotics. If you've got to have them so be it, just be careful. God bless.
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:00 AM
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Hi. I just wanted to let you know how i got rid of the chronic back pain i suffered from for 10yrs. i was in a car accident, and i had one minor surgery to repair a ruptured disc. 8 yrs later, i was diagnosed with degenerative disc disease, and also an autoimmune disease. i was on oxy for yrs to help with the pain. i saw an acupuncture guy that helped a little, but was still having problems. i would suggest that you find a good doctor that can find the root of your problem. just taking pain pills or any other pills for that matter is not going to solve your problem. i finally had a lumbar fusion last december, and although my disease is degenerative, it can be managed without medication. i had the surgery, and i see an acupuncturist twice a month. it has been almost a yr since my surgery, and i havent had to take ANY pills for pain! it has been amazing. i never knew i could feel this good without pain pills. again, i urge you to find the root of the problem, and not just cover it up with pain meds. i really hope you can find some relief! God bless u
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:01 AM
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Hi Limsan:
I to am on methadone and have had 3 lower lumbar surgeries. It sounds to me as though you are suffering from siatica pain. Opiates aren't much good for this type of pain but a relatively new drug is very successfull and that is Lyrica!!

The other option you have to raise your 15-20mgs but as I said opiates aren't much good for sciatic pain. Ask your doctor to order you Lyrica and give it a few days to work. I have a friend and she's on methadone and she also suffers from mild sciatica and fibromylagia. She had tried everything even Fentynal patches. Nothing was really working until they put her on Lyrica. It amazes her how well this drug works. A ton of fibro patients are benifiting from this drug. Well, that's my 2 cents worth. Let me know if you have any luck??........Dave
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:21 PM
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As with any drug there have been some people post on this forum about having some problems with lyrica but I have to agree with Dave. I think lyrica is the best bet here until proven wrong. Good luck.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:14 AM
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As with any drug there have been some people post on this forum about having some problems with lyrica but I have to agree with Dave. I think lyrica is the best bet here until proven wrong. Good luck.
I used Lyrica and then stopped taking it. I gained a lot of weight while on it. I have been off it for several months while taking all the oxys that I could get my doc to prescribe. Now I am on suboxone and my sub doc is worried about the pain I have in my knees and hips. So she put me on Gabapentin, generic for Neurontin. Believe it or not, I can tell a HUGE difference in the pain. I just wanted to share this information with you.

P.S. I Thought I was the only one who stole my poor puppies' pain meds! How desperate I was and the stupid tramadol didn't do anything to me!

Whatever you do, please be careful with your meds and your body. GOod luck to you. Please let us know how things turn out.
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