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Old 05-05-2009, 11:28 AM
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Default Day 10 and all is well... what to do now?

I'm relieved to hear you're still getting through this Fedup! It's nice that you thought about other's reactions to your postings of aches and pains... hopefully they won't let that scare them off. Especially if they keep reading, they will learn that the meds seem to eventually start causing aches and pains for those who don't obey whatever Tramadol tells them to do, such as 'take more of me', or how it will 'turn' on people who thought it was working wonders for them.

I was actually glad to read about the horrible effects so that I wasn't caught off guard by anything unexpected. For some reason it just helped me to know what I needed to watch out for and be ready for it. I set my mind and got geared up for the worst case scenario. I didn't keep a journal but I wonder if that would've been a better idea so that I could look back and see my progress each day... and to express what I'm going through. I guess I sort of used this forum for that instead because it really helped me when others posted, so I wanted to do the same for them.

Maisie... thank you for being here and responding whenever someone posts and needs someone to listen to them. It's really wonderful of you to take the time to share your insights with everyone! At one point my WD's were getting so bad and I was losing so much sleep and growing more and more frustrated that my husband thought it might be good to seek out the care of a doctor. I guess I have many reasons for why I didn't want their help. One is that they told me this substance isn't addictive. What type of help can I expect from them if that is their view on it? Another reason is the label that I may be given from someone who doesn't understand what this medicine does. Ending up asking for WD meds and explaining what you're going through and you can easily be labeled as some sort of junky and treated differently, or even be dropped by the doctors! I have read plenty of horror stories like that one. It's not that easy to find a doc who understands. That is why this site and others were such a great benefit to me because I really felt alone in this and it was great to be able to read and respond here and that helped me through it.

I did read one good experience with a detox program... AFTER this poor person was dropped by ALL of her doctors... even her primary care physician dropped her when she needed help the most. Her only medication was the Tramadol and they treated her like street riff-raff and denied care to her, pretty much just labeling her as a drug seeker because she became addicted to it. She did find a caring doctor after that to help her with the Tramadol problem and give her counceling and different short-term meds to assist her in quitting. I wish everyone could find a doc like that one!

What I'm trying to figure out now is what to do next. I think my horror with this med is pretty much over. Woke up at around 6am this morning starting to kick around again... but thankfully it didn't last long and I was able to go back to sleep for a short while longer, so the symptoms are definately dying down. But now that I'm feeling better I don't really want to just forget what I went through and get on with things... even though that's tempting to do, I feel like a have some sort of responsibility to get the word out on this medication. I'm just not sure what the next step is. Do I just let the doctor who wrote me the prescription know what happened? How will he react? Will he think I'm crazy? Is it enough to just tell him, or do I need to get the word out through other avenues? Do any of you have any ideas? I think some people are taking the time to write to the FDA which may be helpful. I think all of us with a horror story to tell need to tell it to someone who can affect change. I'm open for suggestions and ideas!
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Old 05-05-2009, 04:12 PM
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Hey guys,

I am going to be off the site for a while, not sure how long. My mom is in late-stage Alzheimer's and has an acute infection, so I have to go and be with her. Not sure how much computer time I will have.

If anyone wants to get in touch with me, just click on my name and you can send me an email. I promise I will respond to you! Please don't hesitate, because what you're doing is important and I want to help as much as I can.

Hang in there, and keep up the good work!

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Old 05-05-2009, 04:44 PM
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Thanks Maisie... sorry to hear about your mother. Take care of what's important for your family, I am sure everyone here will be ok. Good luck to you!
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Old 05-12-2009, 02:33 PM
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Hi All - I hope someone still reads this thread. I've been on 200 - 300mg/day of Tram for about 4 years now. I have slight fibromyalgia, and this was my "miracle drug." Now, I'm three months away from trying for my first child and need to get off of this stuff pronto. I've noticed I can handle WD during the day easier than night, so I tend to take doses closer to bedtime that my body is used to (usually one at 9pm).

I am, of course, scared out of my mind that the WDs will be awful. It seems worse than other drugs, which I've never really had experience with. I had the flu for a week coming off of Vicodin years ago, but it wasn't sleepless as it seems this will be.

My plan is to taper to 4 50mg tabs a day within a week from 6. I am also going to begin some children's benadryl before bed to ease RLS symptoms (which I've already experienced when cutting back in the past). I'm beginning pre-natal vitamins, but if others have specific suggestions, I'd appreciate hearing them. I just need to get off of this stuff and move on with my life. None of us should have ever started these seemingly innocent meds! I hate tramadol after reading about all of your amazingly brave stories. They gave me hope that I can do this! Thanks everyone for talking through this!

I guess I'm looking for others who have gone through, or are going through, this. I will post back with my progress to keep this thread going no matter, but it would be nice to know someone is "out there."
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Old 05-12-2009, 11:26 PM
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Hi Rosy
You can allways find me on here...I think your taper plan sounds great...
Keep up the good work and keep posting and let us know how you are doing...
Talk to you later,Melinda
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:32 AM
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Default Thanks Melinda

Thanks so much for letting me know you're around.

Today I took the first step of telling some close friends and family what I'm up against. Trying to keep myself accountable...

I waited to take my second 50 until 2 pm (usually by 10 am) and it went well. Just some random aches in my body and tingles, but manageable. I took my fourth just a few minutes ago (it's almost 11 pm) and also took some children's benadryl (suggested by my new dr) and a multi-v. I am hoping to be able to keep it at 4 a day, but won't beat myself up if I can't jump down by two suddenly. I guess I'm testing myself a bit.

May I ask your story? It would be great to stay in touch.

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Old 05-16-2009, 12:39 PM
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Hi All,

Just want to give an update. I've managed to get down to 250 per day without trouble. I'm going to wait a week or so and bump down to 200. I really think tapering is essential for this medication.

My ex husband was taking them for a few years due to a bad back injury at work. He was one of the lucky few who had no noticeable withdrawals from this medication. It's possible to have any range of wds, so be prepared, but don't give up trying to quit because some can get through it easier than others. It's worth it in any case - this stuff is from hell..
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Old 05-16-2009, 12:45 PM
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Hi rosey
I just seen your post...I would be happy to tell you my story.
I will put it on the next post...I'm kind of slow at typing...LOL
I first wanted to tell you that Im really proud of you OH man look at you go !!!
OK be right back...
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Old 05-16-2009, 01:18 PM
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Hi Rosey

I have fibro and starting using pain pills to help me get thru the day.I have my own business and I work hard physically...LOL So that was my justification for using them...My doctor started me out on Vic's and them I needed perc's and after a little while OH yes I needed ocycontin...and I never took them like I was suppose to...I really got myself in a big mess...I was buying pills to get by till my script could be filled...then my Rx was only lasting me a week if I was lucky...so I knew it was time to quit...I stopped taking my oxycontin and did a taper with vic's...I had to do about 20 tens a day just to get by...It took me a few months but every time i got myself stable I would drop a bit more...this August I will be clean for a year...It feels really good...

you really are doing great !!! some people have to take it nice and slow while others can go a little faster...
Just as long as we get there !!!

Talk to you soon, Melinda
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Old 05-16-2009, 03:53 PM
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Hi Melinda,

Thank you SO much for writing and sharing your history. Congrats on your year of being off of pills!! That is so excellent! I look forward to pill-free days so much.

I really appreciate you being on here - I feel so alone at times with this addiction (as that's what it is - no more denying it) and "talking" to others who have made it through helps me mentally so much.

I also have my own business - it's been a blessing that I don't have to work 8 hours a day in an office. On the other hand, it's difficult to get my motivation up when I'm in such pain. I'm currently looking at herbal remedies to keep my anxiety under control (and get rid of the small dose of benzos I've been taking) and am considering finally paying for weekly massage and physical therapy. I used to make the excuse that I couldn't afford it, but the truth is that my pain pills cost me MORE in the long run because they haven't solved anything.

How were your wds when you finally stopped? I'm having some rls already (even at such a small decrease in dosage) and sweats, nausea, shooting pains. It's sometimes hard to tell what is the FMS and what is just wd.

Thanks so much!
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Old 05-16-2009, 05:05 PM
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Hi Rosey

when I was in my w/d I posted saying I don't know if I'm in pain from w/d or fibro...it was my w/d... the fibro pain is much different...I know now...

Rosey, it is so nice now, I wont tell you I don't hurt any more but it's so much better.
I run a mile a day now and that is my saving grace...I also do my 8 min abs that really helps my back...

I think your really smart for doing this the way you are...I know it's hard, but with the tramadol I think it's the only way...keep me posted on how you are feeling...
and it really helps other people when they come after you and read what you have said...
Talk to you soon, Melinda
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Old 05-17-2009, 10:24 PM
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Hi Melinda (and anyone who reads this)

I was able to make it through the first few days of 5 50mg (one day it was 4) and am feeling okay. Yay! I figured I'd be a wreck by now - my mood is a bit off, but I'm attributing it to the wd.
I think you're right, Melinda. The pains are likely from the slight wd I've had, as they consist of more sweating and rls. The rls wakes me up earlier than usual, but it's tolerable since I can take one 50 when I wake up and have it disappear for the rest of the day.

It's now 7pm and I've only had 3x50mg today so far - my last dose being around 2pm. I'm going to wait until 9pm to take the 4th so that I can get some sleep before work tomorrow. I'm quite excited at how this is going. The key for me so far has been to wait as long as possibly during the day without taking any, and then taking one at night to ensure less rls. I also like the idea of messing with my body's expectation of the meds, as I've been doing.

I think I can officially cut back to 200mg starting today. I know I'll have to taper more slowly as I get down to 100 or so, but for now I'm happy to push myself a little bit and experience light wds if necessary.

Thank you so much for the support and reassurance. I find keeping busy helps a lot, and I'll begin a more strict exercise regimen this week. I love that you've been able to get in so much exercise - a mile a day keeps the endorphins going, I bet! I hear that exercise and vitamins are key components to a successful taper.

I'll continue to update as I get away from this med. I am so appreciative that those who have gotten past this are willing to lend an ear and suggestions.

THANKS SO MUCH!
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Old 05-17-2009, 11:26 PM
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Hi Rosey
OH girl, you just made my day...Im so proud of you...you are doing soooo good...slow and steady ...
when I stopped my drugs my hands were always sweaty for a couple of months.
Oh and I didn't start running at a mile a day...LOL...
I started on the tread mill and I could only do 2 minutes a day...LOL
but I kept working at it...I still get lazy sometimes and purposely forget to go...it really does help tho...I can be feeling bad and I go for a run and everything doesn't seem so bad...

your doing the taper just like I did mine I waited in between as long as I could.even if it was that last ten minutes...

Thanks for keeping me updated...I was wondering how you are doing...
Talk to you tomorrow, Melinda
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:20 PM
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Thanks Melinda - I hope you're well, too.

Going for a small run (2 blocks! LOL) sounds very good right about now. I went down to 175 last night with tylenol pm and was able to sleep fairly well. Today, I've been an emotional lug. I'm just DOWN. If my eyes weren't so red and dry from crying, I'd totally go let the wind blow in them with a run outside. I've been playing with my dogs to get out into the sunshine - it helps SO much.

I am up at 225 today. I decided to see how I would feel if I doubled one dose after these few days. The pain isn't any better - I actually have more symptoms! Imagine that! I'm starting to see this stuff as poison AS I take it to remind myself. I've decided that I'm never ever ever taking two at once ever again as I felt awful after doing so today - jittery and a bit more anxious, and a crier suddenly! This might just go along with the territory and not be the dose thing, so I figure I'm already on my way - might as well work through it at this point .

My dogs are actually helping me through this a lot already. They're so loyal and warm, and they get me outside. The depression isn't as low because I see them as my kids, basically. I have to be strong for them so that they have a quality life and get to play and such.

I'm going to return to 200 tomorrow, spacing it out like you did. I'm beginning to think this downish feeling is here to stay until I'm really off the medication. I'll definitely keep posting.

Thanks so much.
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Old 05-20-2009, 12:01 AM
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Hi Rosey
I know it's hard to see right now, but the feeling you get when you get off the meds is amazing. So don't give up...just keep pushing thru this...
And two blocks of running is great, like I said, I could only do two minutes of walking on the treadmill at first...

I was emotional when I was doing my taper...it just plane sucks

Try to put your taper plan down on paper...That way you can know for sure when your going to be done with this...
That will be exciting for you...

Talk to you soon, Melinda
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:51 AM
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Hi All -

Just wanted to jump in and first of all tell you that I've been following this thread for several weeks now! Weaning off Tramadol at the same time as others has been really helpful!

I've been using a weaning schedule I found online - decreasing my dosage by 10% every day - and it's been shockingly easy! I've been taking 300-500mg per day for the past several months (I know, I know - you're only supposed to take 300 max!) and was really only continuing to take it because of the horrible withdrawal symptoms whenever I tried to stop. I was refilling my 60-pill prescription every Wednesday... but since I started weaning using this schedule, I've been on the same bottle of pills for the past two weeks! Yeah!

Here's the schedule I'm using:
http://www.doctorslounge.com/psychia...pic-21878.html

At the time I started, I had already begun slowly tapering off of my usual 300-500mg, so when I started the schedule I used 300mg as my starting point. Even taking that much per day, I will be able to completely wean off the meds within TWELVE DAYS. I'm on day 6 today - down to three pills versus six. Every day I take one-half less of a pill.

And let me tell you - I am feeling GREAT!! I feel like I could stop cold turkey right now and be fine, but I'm not going to risk it. Going slow and steady has been working perfectly, so I'm not going to mess with something that's working great!

I *really* recommend this weaning schedule - I've been taking Tramadol daily for almost a year and have never been successful cutting down on it 'til now. Within another week I'll be completely Tramadol-free and I can't tell you how excited that makes me!!

(Cutting down/off the Vicodin is another story, unfortunately... baby steps! That's next!)

Thanks for continuing to post your stories - you've really inspired me to finally quit this poison once and for all. Hope my experience can help some of you, too!!

~Steph
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:56 AM
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I went back and was reading Melinda's response to Rosey having a rough time on Day 4 and wanted to chime in - YES! Write your weaning schedule down!! I typed mine up, printed it, and taped it next to the computer (since I spend 99% of my day right here - ha!) and it's been really inspiring!

Just in case you were interested, here's what MY taper schedule looks like. I have had an amazingly easy time of it - especially considering I've tried weaning off of Tramadol at least three times before and have always given up within 2-3 days because the WDs were so bad. I have not had A SINGLE negative effect on this schedule - no cold sweats, no restless legs, no insomnia... nothing but smooth sailing!!

Steph's Typical Schedule - 6 pills/day (300mg)

Steph's Weaning schedule -

Day 1 - 5.5 pills (275mg) - Friday, May 15
Day 2 - 5 pills (250mg) - Saturday, May 16
Day 3 - 4.5 pills (225mg) - Sunday, May 17
Day 4 - 4 pills (200mg) - Monday, May 18
Day 5 - 3.5 pills (175mg) - Tuesday, May 19
Day 6 - 3 pills (150mg) - Wednesday, May 20
Day 7 - 2.5 pills (125mg) - Thursday, May 21
Day 8 - 2 pills (100mg) - Friday, May 22
Day 9 - 1.5 pills (75mg) - Saturday, May 23
Day 10 - 1 pill (50mg) - Sunday, May 24
Day 11 - .5 pill (25mg) - Monday, May 25
Day 12 - DONE! CELEBRATE!! - Tuesday, May 26

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Old 05-20-2009, 11:14 AM
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Hi 21 months (steph )
Welcome and thank for your schedule that's a big help.
I think your right on slow and steady.
Are taking vic's now...if so,,, I was the master at tapering off of these...LOL
I'm glad you posted
Talk to you soon, Melinda
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:54 PM
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Hi Melinda and Steph,

The past few days have been a bit strange, but overall very positive.

On my 3rd day at 175, I began getting "chills" that move up from my neck to the top of my head! Such a strange feeling... I also had a gruesome nightmare the other night that was Frankenstein-like. Other than that, weepy and moody here and there.

Melinda - I completely agree with you that I will feel better. I went through a brief fog, but came out of it feeling better than I have in a while. Mind you, I've still got some work to do, but I can't ever go back to my old dose - it scares me to realize how drugged I've been feeling over the last few years. Thanks so much for the support!!

21 - Thanks so much for joining in! It's great to hear that we've been on the same dose for long and that you feel well on that schedule! Congratulations on making such good progress Good luck with the vics - It's good that you are taking it one step at a time!!

I'm cutting back by 1/2 tomorrow (yay for the weekend!) and will likely stay there until next Thursday (one week) to be safe. I want to feel like I've mastered each level..lol. I will keep updating, though!

Best to Everyone!
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Hi Rosey
Thanks for letting me know I just cant tell you how excited i am for you...
I know how hard it is , but it is so worth it...
Keep us posted on how your doing...
and me to YEA for the weekend

Talk to you soon, Melinda
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Rosey .... I've been following your posts here for a while and I wanted to make a suggestion. You're making yourself miserable reducing by 1/2 pill a week. I promise you can taper by 50mg every 3-4 days and you'll do fine. I just hate to see you hovering at 175mg -225mg. That has to be so frustrating for you. If you will knock off 50mg even every four days you won't have anymore difficulty than reducing 1/2 pill each week. All that will happen is that you'll get his behind you. This 1/2 pill a week thing is in your mind, you can go faster than that and not suffer. God bless.
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Old 05-22-2009, 12:32 PM
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Melinda - Thanks again! I'm feeling very optimistic about this weekend. I'll try to stretch my dosing out more and let you know how it goes!

Robert - I appreciate the suggestion. I'm sure you're right about 3-4 days being enough. I already feel like I've climbed a mountain dropping below 200. I'll try cutting back sooner as you're saying and will let you know how it goes.

Today I'll only be taking 150!
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Rosey .... That's good news. You'll be off in no time at all dropping 50mg every three days. With where you are now it's two weeks or so dropping 50mg at a time. That would be awesome for you.

I would do that and if you did happen to feel uncomfortable by chance you can back it up to four days. It's so easy to do like that with no pressure really. Good luck and God bless.
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Thanks for the support, Robert. I don't know what I would do without this forum right now! It's so therapeutic to talk about what I'm going through.
I don't really have another outlet.

I'm at only 75 mgs today so far and it's going okay. A bit down, but I think I can handle that. I might take another 25 in an hour or so.

Oh - and GOOD news. I've really had no trouble sleeping yet. I'm sure this will come on at some point, but so far I can take my last dose at 3pm and not have trouble falling asleep. I do take a quick sip of childrens benadryl before bed every other night.

Will check in soon - thanks again for the support!
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I had a kind of rough day today myself! After feeling so great the first several days of the weaning process, I accidentally-on-purpose forgot my evening dose of tramadol last night (it would have been 2 pills, 100mg) and figured I'd see how long I could go and remain feeling great. I really didn't think I was still having any sort of dependency on the drug at all, I guess, since I felt so good and it was so easy? But I know I woke up at some point around 4:00 AM this morning with the withdrawal insomnia - the restless leg syndrome thing and such, you know? And by the time my alarm went off at 7:30 I was feeling like I'd been hit by a truck and wasn't sure how I was going to summon the energy to get out of bed. Took 2 pills with breakfast and started feeling "normal" again after about an hour.... So that was disappointing.

But! That weaning schedule thus far has been working really great, decreasing around 10% each day. As long as I take it at the same time daily! So it'll be interesting to see (now that I'm back on the schedule - decided to "redo" Day 8 so am now just one day behind) how I feel at the end of this weaning schedule that would have me completely weaned totally off tramadol in just under two weeks. It's hard to believe but here I am at Day 9, taking just 100mg/day after spending the last several months taking 300-500mg/day so there must be something to this schedule!!

Have a great holiday weekend everyone!
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hi 21months
I was talking to robert about tapering off of tranadol and this is what we came up with...so you could just jump in where you are at and take it from there...let us know what you think,''
Talk to you soon ,Melinda

Day 1--225 mg (4 1/2 pills)
Day 2--200 mg (4 pills)
Day 3--175 mg (3 1/2 pills)
Day 4--150 mg (3 pills)
Day 5--125 mg (2 1/2 pills)
Day 6--100 mg (2 pills)
Day 7--75 mg (1 1/2 pills)
Day 8--50 mg (1 pill)
Day 9--25 mg (1/2 pill)
Day 10--0 mg and all done.
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Hi All - Happy Saturday.

Hey 21 - Sorry you had the RLS. It's the worst! I'm so glad you've cut back by so much though. Your body is already dispelling the toxins of this med as you cut back - you're doing what is SO good for your body (and so am I!). I have to remind myself to think about the discomfort as a cleansing that can take a few days.

It's really hard to be around other people through this - especially my boyfriend. He has little interest in my wd symptoms, and hasn't been too supportive of my efforts. We were thinking about starting a family in the fall, but I'm having serious doubts. When I'm around him right now, my thoughts are about wanting to be alone. I don't miss him when I'm away anymore - this might be depressive, but I have a feeling it's more the lack of support that he's showing. He takes tramadol for a very messed up digestive tract, so that could be why it's hard for him. When we tried to cut back together, he ended up in an awful mood and angry with me for just about nothing.

Anyone else feel the need to be completely alone? I would take my dogs up to the mountain and camp if I didn't have so much to do.

I made it through yesterday on 175 again, taking the last 1/2 right before bed and sleeping soundly. I thought I could cut back more, but, again, it's hard being around another grumpy person. Did any of you take leave of a relationship, or even break up after you realized your fog was tricking you into settling? I know this is a new subject, sort of, but I'm very curious because I feel like a different person right now.

Thanks so much for listening. I think my 150 taper will officially happen today, as I'm READY to be freeee.

Rosey
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Rosey .... Lots of people realize their drug-induced relationships were just that ... something that was drug-induced, not something to build on.

Some people turn everything in their life around but what you're dealing with is very common especially when one partner gets clean but the other one doesn't. How can someone stay clean when their partner is abusing drugs? They don't go together well.

Focus on yourself. Boyfriends will come and go, you only get one shot at life. Live it to its fullest and do the next right thing for yourself. God bless.
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Old 05-23-2009, 02:43 PM
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Hi Rosy
I have to agee with Robert when i got clean I changed my whole life...even threw away all of my clothes I used to where...
Do what ever you have to do to stay clean...

Melinda
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:52 AM
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Default I quit Heroin 6 times

I am a member of a 12 step program. I have been clean/sober for a little over 6 years. I was in and out of rehab as a teenager and went through a total of 6 detox ( some in clinics some at home ). I am normally a very good advocate at my doctors about not taking ANYTHING mood alterning/addicting. I had a hip surgery in Jan 09' for a torn labrum and was scared to death to take narcotics but I did understand that taken for a short time period I would not have as much as an effect as taking low doses for a long length of time. I took Vicotin for 3 days after the operation and did not go through any sort of withdrawl and have an euphoric experiences.

Fast foward to April 09'. I have been dealing with chronic neck, spine, and back pain (i am 27yr female) and have done physical therapy, accupuncture, Reiki, yoga, a long list of muscle relaxors that did not work so my doctor suggested Ultram.

Now lets back up for a second. I had heard about tramadol it once while I was in my second year of rehab, I had been in the E.R. for a sprained ankle and the leading addiction Phyiscian at my center had to clear ALL perscriptions for approval. I told the docs in the E.R. I can't have any narcotics so they perscribed me Ultracet. When I gave it to the Dr. She said "HELL NO" and tore it up.

I am married and live in Arizona now. The chronic pain started to occur last July as I tappered off of Effexor. I was put on this when I got sober because it is assumed that you are depressed if you do heroin. Weening off of effexor was almost as bad as getting off or Heroin but with much longer lasting withdrawl.

I have been in so much pain and have been to so many specialist and all test come back negative. Been to an Endocronlogist, Physiatrist, Psychiatrist, D.O. Pain specialist, and an orthopedic surgeon. Blood test have been run for Lupus, R.A., genetic disorders and countless others. The last specialist I was at was a Rheumatologist and he said I have Fibromyalgia, BULLS**T. I don't know why I gave in but since they kept pushing that it was a NON NARCOTIC and NON ADDICTIVE it would be safe. I was on 50mg 2x a day. I took it for about 25 days. It worked great for about a week then stoped. I meet with my doc on Tuesday and he said just stop taking it. Well yesterday I started feeling achy, then I had trouble sleeping...... then it all came back. I am in full blown withdraw. Been clean for 6 YEARS and I am detoxing AGAIN??? I'm graduating with a B.S. in Psychology in Dec and seriously considering going back to get a law degree so I can actually do something to the people that have caused me so much unnesissary pain. It has now been a full 48 hours and although I am not puking yellow bile and excreting the same ( the joys of heroin withdrawl) I do have the achy, bone pain, lower back pain, insomnia that is very similar. I experienced a lot of restless leg with heroin withdrawl but THANK GOD have not so far with the tramadol. Out of all of the symptoms that is by far the most frustrating. Plain and simple I just don't and can't trust doctors anymore. Unless they have taken the pill themselves I will not belive that it has NO SIDE EFFECTS!

I will continue to hunt for a cure for the rest of my pain. Today I had steroid injection into the muscles in my back and I pray that it will work and I never have to take another pill.

This now being my 7th withdrawl off of a lets face it OPIATE I encurage you to stick with it. The symptoms will go away. AT least you don't have a habit of sticking a needle in your arm. It is tempting to just take another pill to make it all go away but you will just be back in this situation again at a later date. Good Luck and God Bless!
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