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Help with Oxycodone Withdrawl
Help with Oxycodone Withdrawl
I need some advice, help, etc.... I have been taking (1) 15 mg oxycodone pill with (2) Lortab 7.5/500 every 5 hours, 3x a day for about 4 months. The well has run dry on the oxycodone. I was getting those from a friend. The lortab is prescribed to me by my doctor. It has been 8 days now since I have had any oxycodone. To substitute for the oxy I have been taking 3-4 or the lortab every 4-5 hours. It only seems to take the edge off. No high at all. I am experiencing the worst feelings of my life. I am irritable and a real asshole. My wife and kids are noticing a change in my mood, for the worse. I know that I need to ween myself down to the prescribed doseage of the Lortab, 4 pills a day. HOW? How long does the withdrawl from the oxycodone last? Am I doomed to be this bad mood asshole forever now? I hate how I feel and I would do almost anything at this point for some more oxy. I need to feel good again. When will this end? Help Help Help
Honestly just start reading the posts on here...We have helped answer this type of question soo many times that its numbing...All you have to do is loook..Not trying to be a d**k just stating what I wish some people would do because we have answered opiate w/d so many times...
I've been reading. It's hard to concentrate with the W/D. Just wanted a quick, clear answer. It takes all my energy to stay focused on the work that I am supposed to be doing with this computer in front of me. I am a Landscape & Irrigation designer. Currently I don't give a $@*_ about my work. That's not good. Too much longer like this and I may not have a job to complain about.
Ok TK-I know how you feel...I can help you on here later or just email me,and I'll talk you through things Hitinthc1@aol.com
The amount of acetaminophen you're currently taking daily in the Lortab is about 5 times the maximum recommended dose per day (or 10 times the max dose of 2G when used long term) That much acetaminophen is toxic, and your liver is overloaded. That's contributing a lot to the general misery of your withdrawal.
(I'm new here, sorry if I'm doing this quote wrong)
>>To substitute for the oxy I have been taking 3-4 or the lortab every 4-5 hours. It only seems to take the edge off. No high at all. <<
Doesn't your doctor prescribe Lortab for pain? Were you taking the Oxy to control pain or to get high? The fuzzyheaded "high" is not what controls pain. It's a side effect that should go away after a couple days. The correct dose of pain med controls pain (doesn't make it go away) but has no more "high" than an asprin.
I can't tell whether you were taking the Oxy because you were undermedicated for pain, or because you like the high. The fact that you took one 15mg Oxy at intervals throughout the day (rather than a few all at once) makes me think you were using it to control pain. But I dunno....
In either case, if you're brave, go see your regular doctor and explain the situation. If you're genuinely in pain, maybe he'll refer you to a Pain Specialist.
I've voluntarily withdrawn from extended release opiates twice. Both times, I felt like I had the flu for a week, until I adjusted to a lower dose (of short acting Hydrocodone 10/325). It also took a week or two to relearn methods of controlling the increased level of pain that returned.
While I was sick, I took it easy, distracted myself with inane tv shows (couldn't follow a movie or anything good), slept as much as possible, drank Gatorade to combat dehydration from the runs and ate lightly when my appetite returned.
I was adding the oxycodone for both pain and high. The lortab just wasn't doing it for me.
I understand the acetaminophin thing. However, when I asked my doc about it he said that the media overexaggerates the issue. He said he has patients that take up to 5000 mg of it daily and are fine. So I know that I am getting close to the top end of the limit with what I am taking. I am trying to cut it down to (6) Lortabs a day. 3 pills , 2x daily. I just took 3 pills about 45 minutes ago and for the first time in 8 days I actually feel it!!! I am very surprised by this. I will assume that this means that the oxy is finally getting out of my system. I hope to ween myself down to the dose that I am supposed to be taking (4 pills a day). If I make it today it will only be 6. Not so bad in my opinion.
As far as taking the pills for a high versus pain.....I am somewhere in the middle. Before taking them for the first time I had no idea that they made you high. When my doc prescribed them I used them as directed and also learned how good they can make you feel. Thats where it all began. Now I think I self medicate to deal with anxiety from my high stress job. I would love to get a med for the anxiety rather than use the Lortab for it.
Okay, I'm sorry. The line I quoted up there (3-4 Lortab every 4-5 hours) added up in my head to between 9,000 and 12,000 mg.) Multiple friends with chronic Hepatitis have told me they feel deathly ill if they take more than 1,000 mg per dose, so I was passing along the info just in case it might be a factor in your misery. Glad to hear you're not taking that much!
The max doses for acetaminophen I quote aren't from "the media", tho. They're from my last two Pain Specialists. The max dose for "long-term, daily use by patients taking pain meds containing acetaminophen" was decreased from 4G (4,000mg) to 2G (2,000mg) several years ago, but to be honest, I don't know what source my doctor got that info from. Maybe I should Google it before I say stuff like that.
Oh, and congrats on getting down to 6 per day. I know it's tough, sorry if I sound critical. No one should have to live with pain, but on the other hand, the people who misuse pain meds make it really tough for those of us with legitimate pain who use our meds as prescribed.
For instance, the Powers That Be are now making my PainDoc prove that his patients are not "diverting" their meds. What that means is that I have to give a urine sample when I go in to see him, so he can prove I'm really taking the meds he's prescribing. Was kinda wondering if maybe that's why your friend isn't giving you his Oxy anymore?
I have a Dr. appointment this morning with a new Dr. My old one retired a few weeks ago. I plan on asking for something for the pain that has very little acetominaphin.
As for my friend not giving up the oxy's anymore. She has had a turn for the worse on her health and is in the hospital.....more than likely for the last time if you know what I mean. She has terminal cancer.
Thanks for your responses....I do agree about long term usage of acetominaphin, that is why I plan on asking for something different today. Perhaps Norco. Or maybe moving on to extended release oxy?
Something. My pain is ligitamate and will likely continue the rest of my life so I need something to deal with it if I want to keep my active lifestyle.
Been there done that. Oxycodone withdrawals last up to 1 week.
Sorry to hear your friend is terminal. That's life, though... as a former mentor of mine, who died in 1995, used to say, "Life is a sexual transmitted disease with a %100 mortality rate."
Norco has 325mg of acet, 10mg of hydrocodone. The maximum per day is still only 6, to stay under the acet maximum.
Getting adequate pain control via legitimate channels is a good idea. It makes a huge difference in quality of life and your ability to function. But... If you do ask for a long acting, sustained release med, your regular doctor will most likely refer you to Pain Management. Although the family docs can and do Rx pain meds, they just get too much hassle when they start prescribing it long term, at least to non-cancer patients. (Until 1977, doctors could get in trouble for Rxing high doses of narcotic meds to terminal cancer patients, so we've come a long, long way.)
If you do get into Pain Management, take the attitude that you're in it for the long run. Know that you will be expected to jump through hoops like you can't believe, especially when the government is cracking down on Pain Doctors (the War on Drugs is lots easier if they go after the guys who aren't armed when they need to get their numbers up.) If you take meds as directed and follow the rules, you'll do fine, and you'll really appreciate being able to control pain.
But if you use it recreationally, you'll be asking for dose increases too frequently and will end up coping with your pain with no meds. Most Pain specialists have some version of a contract that specifies, among other things, that if in their judgement, you are abusing you meds, they can put you in rehab. Now that you know what its like to withdraw, maybe you'll remember to use them, and not misuse or abuse them?
I've been on the med I take for about 8 years now, and have only had dose increases in my sustained release med twice (both times at my own request, and agreed to by my doctors because they'd come to know and trust me.) I also have regular breakthrough meds, as well as some stronger meds for acute breakthough pain that I use only when I really, really need them, as well as Valium for acute muscle spasms (I hate the stuff, but it sure does take care of the ones that used to send me to the ER.)
Methadone has been mentioned a lot on this board, I know. I tried it, and it's very good for chronic pain, as it has a long half-life, so you get an even level of pain control around the clock. Unfortunately, it gave me horrible headaches after a week, even at the lowest dose. If you tolerate it, that might be one to try.
Hope you get your pain controlled one way or another. Also hope you've learned something from the withdrawal experience and aren't tempted to repeat it!
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I have been doing about 50 mg of oxy for about as year. I started taking Suboxone and I feel like a champ. That stuff really works and I totally would recomend it to anyone wanting to get off of Oxy. It is hell doing it with out it and since I been on it, no mood swings, I sleep like a baby, and have no need nor the urge to relapse. Use it! It works.
You should not mix pills unless your doctor tells you that it's ok. I take hydrocodene for my migraines which I heard it's like Oxycodone, but I cut them in pieces and take when needed, and they work for me. I wish you good luck in all. Take care.
Last edited by ddcmod; 01-08-2014 at 06:42 PM.
I was taking percocet 10/325 for three years along with Oxy 10 mg than was changed to diladin 2 mg with the percocet, I had my back surgery on Jan 06 the surgery was a success, I threw the percocet away, against the advise of my doctor, now I am starting the withdrawals symptoms, what will happen and how long does it take to complete all symptons?
You will have lower back pain, hot flashes, chills, diarrhea, possibly vomiting, lethargy, depression, anxiety and feel hopeless. It will last between 7-10 days possibly 14.
I stopped cold turkey too... off oxy 120mgs/day. I have all of the above symptoms, that's very accurate.
How are you doing now??