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03-01-2011, 06:41 AM #1771
I can relate because right now I am on day #6 since I last took suboxone. I tried multiple times to stop and multiple times I failed. This is the longest I have gone without it though and I feel fine surprisingly. I am not going to sit here and tell you that your withdrawal symptoms aren't real because i know how you feel. The week before I stopped, I didn't take it 1 day and it was horrible and i was miserable and it was one day. You must taper down lower than 1 MG. Try going to .5MG every day and then for 1 week do every other day if you can. It is not easy to do but your body will be able to adjust a lot easier.
Originally Posted by SG1290
I know for me I was lying to myself saying that I was takign .5MG at first meanwhile I was taking 1mg half the time because I didn't feel right and was reliant on Suboxone to make me feel better. My anxiety was crazy for 2 or 3 days and I took xanax for those few days when I was feeling really anxious.
As far as sleeping goes... The only real physical withdrawal that I feel is the Restless legs / arms. Requip is doing wonders for me in that department. It makes a world of difference. I have actually been falling asleep earlier but only getting 4 or 5 hours and constantly waking up. It is a good thing for me because now I am getting to work earlier.
YOU MUST BE MENTALLY STRONG AND EXERCISE. The passed few times I tried to quit, I failed because I didn't have the motivation or felt too tired or depressed to work out. It is so important to do...
I don't go to AA or NA but I do see a psychologist. Developing strategies to overcome your mental boundaries is important. Now after day 6 i realize that 90% of suboxone withdrawal is MENTAL. You think that you need it when you don't. We are creatures of habbit. The fear of not knowing how long these withdrawals last scares the ******** out of you. Trust me I KNOW. I seriously considered staying on Suboxone for life. I just wanted to know a time period of how long withdrawals would last but there is no definitive answer out there. My goal was that I would stop for a week and see how I felt. It is day #6 and I feel fine and I think I can say I am a success story. The first 3 days were the toughest for me, now its just like any other day.
Something that really helped me which may or may not be true but I believe it to be true is that you aren't feeling withdrawal symptoms, you are feeling cravings. In my case I think that is what it was. Of course if you try and stop on higher doses, you will feel withdrawal symptoms.
It is also tough when you have tried to stop and failed and fear what you felt during that time. I do not feel like that at all this time around. I believe after Day 5, it gets easier. For me it was after day# 4. I am not going to say this is the same for everyone but this is my experience. Like i said, the only withdrawal symptoms i have now are restless legs/arms but Requip is working wonders.
Your mind is a very powerful thing when used correctly. You can overcome any adversity. It took me 3 and a half years to do this and I finally am able to.
03-01-2011, 02:45 PM #1772
thank you so much for answering my message. Im on day 5 and feeling so-so. Day 4 was actually better for me, which is a little strange. I havent took oxycontin in three years and just cant believe im still going thru this bull****. Ive heard about this Requip, and it sounds great, im guessing you need a prescription? The first three night were horrible for me, when i was on suboxone i used to sleep about 10 hours in a night now i sleep maybe about 5. The restless legs have gone away but the sneezing has stayed. I didnt even know sneezing was apart of withdrawal, i just thought i had the flu lol. i thought just my luck! I am going to take your advice about exercising, i have two small dogs so maybe just taking them out on a walk would do. It is so great hearing these messages and sucess stories. I like you thought I would be on suboxone for the rest of my life. This is and will forever be the last time I ever have to go through this pain again. Im just happy that im not alone and there are so many people that share my story, thank you
03-01-2011, 05:22 PM #1773
03-01-2011, 07:59 PM #1774
Yeah I thought being an alcoholic was bad. Well at least opiates helped me quit drinking but the hell of withdrawal from opiates is so bad that it could seriously break a person if they are not strong. I had a natural social anxiety disorder before so you can immagine how bad it is now. I feel suicidal but can't bring myself to do it cause it would hurt my family. I can only type right now because I took 0.5 mg of Suboxone. I am getting clonidine tomorrow. The only thing you can do is two things. Go on clonidine. And you wont feel like doing this but FORCE yourself to work out like crazy. Buy some heavy weights and do curls and pushups etc. As somebody else said on here, it helps release endorphines and dopamine in your brain which you are lacking. It is part of the "reward" system in you brain. And we were rewarding ourselves with opiates(which release dopamine) before when we should not have been releasing dopamine, so now we pay the price. Every time you workout you will feel better a while after, and can get a little more sleep. The harder you work out the more payback you will get. Just remember that. I wish I could take away ALL of your guys pain. I dont care who you are no one deserves the anxiety and depression of this withdrawal. Just remember if you can get through this you can get through anything. Best of luck, you are in my prayers. W.
03-02-2011, 12:49 PM #1775
I have been on 24 mg a day since 2005. I guess my doc liked my cash because he never talked about me getting off them, the opposite in fact.
In the past 6 - 12 months i weaned to 1mg and thought that a good jump point. OUCH. Day 9 today and had to take a sick day. Too tired,anxious, painful to deal. Thank God i copped to my boss (he was there when i almost died and knows my bad road i would not advise telling any boss ever).
Stupid me i thought by now i would be better. Damn receptors keep yelling at me.
Physically it is so hard to be so weak. Yeah if you start with real injuries wow...forgot that pain. I even now have pain i did not know i ever had.
Anyway I just needed that support that only those who have been there can give. NOBODY else understands.
Sorry, typing on this tiny pad i can only type with 2 fingers so please understand.
hey does anyone know why i am sneezing constantly it is bizzare
i will try and get chlonadine this week if it will help. Widowed mom (guess how he died..no subs for him) gotta keep my job at all costs. But, not the subs they gotta go. So I sit ans sweat etc etc lol you guys know..............
03-02-2011, 01:15 PM #1776
I am not a dr. My statements are based on years of experience and related education. Consult with the professional of your choice regarding matters of concern.
03-02-2011, 02:02 PM #1777
Question for whoever knows the answer. If somone has taken 2mg-4mg of subs for lets say a half a year and then goes back to there Percocet habit, how long until the sub will be out of your system. The reason I ask is if somone wants to now quit cold turkey, will they be feeling ok after the 5th day or will it be like having double dosage of withdrawal symptoms? any advice would be great.
03-02-2011, 02:36 PM #1778
Again I apologize for any typo's this little pad thing is difficult in my state of mind. Tomorrow at work I will type better (I hope)
I trollled a LOT of sub forums today but your honest to God sincerity made me fall in love with you (you know how I mean that
I trust you and I am going to hang in there. I know I can do it, I just really am tired of my family saying (here my elderely mom "why are you wasting all your money on this dumb doctor?) I finally realized that like always........she was right.
I can do this and your support means everything. I hope you truly do realize what you do for us out here.......with no none who understands.
You have really no idea how special you are.
Thank you, Deb
03-02-2011, 04:00 PM #1779
I am sorry, I dont know if there is a PM featuruie here i do not want to clog up this forum.
Thank you - my docs induction existed of wait........then take this...........unfortunately he never told me about the withdrawl part. "So, six hours after taking a 'med' I took the sub. You know what happened,l $500 induction fee youd think a doc would explain.
- ok sounding anxious and paranoid,
I will make it but its nice not to be alone
I love al of you guys.................thanks SOmuch
03-07-2011, 12:33 PM #1780
So I am on Day #12. Everything is going well except the Restless legs have not gone away yet... How long will I have this? Anyone know? Thanks
03-08-2011, 04:55 AM #1781
Another few days and it will be over. It's different for everyone. Mine went away on day 14.
03-08-2011, 07:39 AM #1782
I am on day 11 and RLS is still kickin'. Take more hot baths in epsom salts and try to stay calm THEY WILL disappear soon I can beat my life on that........wishing you the best and keep your sports up!!! You've come along way baby!
03-08-2011, 10:27 AM #1783
Hello everyone. I have been reading some posts over the last week and just wanted to take this opportunity to convey some of my experiences when I stopped taking Suboxone. I started taking subs about 2 years ago and started out on 16mg a day. I was soon up to 24mg a day. I stayed at this dose for about a year and then decided that I would start my taper. I went from 24mg to 8mg overnight with minimal symptoms. From 8mg, I tapered 2mg every month until I got to 2mg. I stayed on 2mg for 2 months and then went to 1mg for a month. I stopped completely after taking 1mg a day. I quit on a Friday, and by Tuesday I was almost back to a normal state. After 5 full days I was completely normal, no restless legs, upset stomach, depression, or any other symptoms. I did take a few over the counter supplements, but can't say whether they worked or if time was the fix. I took magnesium tablets for the restless legs, and something from Walgreens called Hyland's Leg Cramps with Quinine. The restless legs were not completely gone but it was a lot better. I also took a vitamin B & C complex.
I just wanted to post this in case anyone is coming off and needs some support. I've been reading some of the posts on here and it seems that some had a way different experience than what I've had. I just want people to know that there are people that do get off without the weeks of "torture" some complain about.
I would like to also say to the people that are considering taking Hydrocodone or some other opiate to kick Subs, that this WILL NOT work. If you do this you can count on being right back at step 1. Your body will be dependent on what ever it is that you take after only one or two doses.
The mind is a very powerful tool. If you feel that your not ready to get off of Subs then you might want to stay on them for a little longer. When your mind is convinced that your done, it will work wonders for your body. Good luck everyone.
03-10-2011, 08:15 PM #1784
My name is J.D. and for years ive been fighting a losing battle with opiate addiction. Im only 28 years old, and do have an extreme desire to stop using and work more towards achieving respectable life goals. I want to do this for myself, however I also really want to make my family and friends proud. Ive tried quitting several times, and relapsed more times than I can count now. I started about 5 years ago with taking small amounts of vicoden and percocet on and off. Over the years my use would increase and the drugs I was taking progressed to more potent opiates such as oxys and >>>>>>. Ive quit several times throughout the past few years, the longest Ive stayed clean was about 9 months.
From Oct. of last year, up until about 3 weeks ago, I was taking >>>>>> on and off, I weened myself from a 1 gram or more daily habit down to between .1 and .2 of a gram daily. Then just these past 3 weeks I began a suboxone regiment. I started at 8mgs a day, got myself down to between 2mgs and 4mgs per day, depending on the day, and how I feel. The past 2 days Ive successfully gotten through with only 2mgs. Now comes the hard part, Im completely broke, and have no insurance, and im down to my last 6mg piece of suboxone. Ive been purchasing them off the street, but recently theyve become harder to find, and more expensive. I am also completely broke, and have no means of obtaining funds for more suboxone, in the near future. So going to the doctor is out of the question, as I cant afford the $200 office visit, and another $150 for the script. Im going to attempt to come up with at least another ten or twenty dollars and try to obtain another 8mg pill or two off one of my sources, however, if that fails, im basically stuck with 6mg and the desire to stop using drugs.
So, after reading these forums, I was actually inspired by some of the success stories, and by the support and compassion in this community. Ive noticed especially that Robert seems to be very experienced and helpful to numerous others who were struggling with similar experiences to my own. I find the sense of need to help other addicts in this community very uplifting. I was hoping that perhaps Robert or some other experienced and helpful person, may have some advice for me as to how to taper myself from 2-4mgs a day, down to nothing, and to do it as painlessly as possible. Im familiar with withdrawals from full-agonists as well as partial-agonists, so I know what Im in for, however, Im hoping that since my intake of >>>>>> was extremely low before I switched to the subs, and since Ive only been on suboxone for 3 weeks, perhaps I can get through this fairly painlessly with the 6mgs I have left. And also the possibility of maybe obtaining another 8mg suboxone at some point early next week, if I can come up with the funds and the connection. Anyways, any advice and any kind of info or suggestions for tapering off would be greatly appreciated. I sincerely appreciate the efforts of anyone who took the time to read my lengthy post, thank you and God bless you all.
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03-11-2011, 11:46 AM #1785
Hey J.D., I know what your going through and know that if you want to quit you will be successful. I can only share my personal expierience comming off of the suboxone. I didn't use herion before the subs, but did use Vicodin and anything like it, so I'm not sure if that would affect ones withdrawal symptoms. You said that you have 6mg left, so what I would suggest is that you use 1mg per day, either untill you are completly out or you get another pill. If you do get another 8mg's, I would take .5mg for 16 more days, after that you should be able to come off of the subs with some wd's but they shouldn't be anything like kicking before. At least they were not for me. You may feel some wd's while tapering your dose but they should be tolerable.
Just hang in there and you can do it. FYI, my wd's lasted for around 5 days. Some seem to have them last longer. I'll talk to ya later.
03-12-2011, 03:03 PM #1786
Thanks for your advice and support Jason. Its much appreciated. Sounds like a good regiment. I was lucky enough to get 2 more of the 8mg sublingual strips from a friend. Ive been keeping my dose at 2mgs a day, and plan on moving to 1mg tomorrow, and tapering further from there. Hopefully this will all be over soon, and I'll be well on my way back to a healthy and happy lifestyle. Again a sincere thanks for your help, and any other tips or advice are definitely welcome. Take care.
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03-14-2011, 05:02 PM #1787
Just a follow up for anyone that read my first post above. It was recommended to me by a third party to take magnesium tablets for the restless legs. I'v been taking them for about 15 days now and just realized that these pills caused me to have flu like diareah everytime I took them. I called the pharmasist and he agreed that this was a side effect. I would not recommend them to anyone. I was wonderting why all my symptoms were gone but not the upset stomach. Well, now we know.
03-14-2011, 05:03 PM #1788
How is everything going with your taper J.D.?
03-16-2011, 03:29 AM #1789
SUBOXONE Withdrawal Symptoms Journal
4 Month Suboxone use…
16mg to 8 mg – 8 mg to 4 mg- 4 mg to 2mg- 2mg to 1mg…
1th Day-High Sensivity, Anxiety, Cold Sweat, Night Sweat, Anorexia, Insomia
2th Day- Anxiety, Lack of Energy, Cold Sweat, Night Sweat, Anorexia, Insomia
3rd Day-Depression, Anxiety, Lack of Energy, Muscle Kramp, Leg Pain, Cold Sweat, Night Sweat, Diarrhea , Anorexia ,Insomia
4th Day - Depression, Anxiety, Lack of Energy, Muscle Kramp, Leg Pain, Cold Sweat, Night Sweat, Diarrhea, Anorexia ,Insomia
5th Day- Depression, Anxiety, Lack of Energy, Muscle Kramp, Leg Pain, Cold Sweat, Night Sweat, Diarrhea, Anorexia ,Insomia
6th Day- Depression, Anxiety, Lack of Energy, Leg Pain (but lower) , Cold sweat (but lower), Night Sweat, Diarrhea, Anorexia, Insomia
7th Day - Depression, Anxiety, Lack of Energy, Leg Pain (but lower) , Cold sweat (but lower), Night Sweat, Diarrhea, Anorexia, Insomia
8th Day- Depression, Anxiety, Lack of Energy, , Cold sweat (but lower), Night Sweat, Diarrhea , Anorexia, Insomia
9th Day- Depression, Anxiety, Lack of Energy, Cold sweat (but lower), Night Sweat, Diarrhea , Anorexia, Insomia
10th Day - Anxiety, Lack of Energy, , Cold sweat (very low), Diarrhea (very low)
11th Day- Anxiety (but flasbacks time to time), Lack of Energy (but getting beter), Cold Sweat( time to time, not constant)
12th Day- Anxiety (but flasbacks time to time), Lack of Energy (but getting beter)
13th Day- Lack of Energy (but getting much beter)
Personal Wiews: It’s not hard as >>>>>> or other opioid withdrawal but much longer like Methadon. I can say that any kind of symtoms are not hard as >>>>>> (half of it). But period is very long so it’s very very bad.
Try not to use anykind of drugs when withdrawal (like xanax, vicodin v.s) Because buprenorphine has long term of half life and effects fat cells so it stays body much longer. Any kind of sedative drugs can cause withdrawal much longer to 2 weeks or 3 weeks, cause body try detox buprenorphine and other drugs at same time.
Like anykind of opioid withdrawal try to consume lots of liquid specially sport drinks. But don’t drink anykind of liquid which ınclude caffein because it increases cold sweats..
Music helps you very much to deal with depression and anxiety. Best to motivate yourself is to remember that there is nothing permanent everything is temporary. Get well soon to everbody….
03-18-2011, 10:06 PM #1790
I feel for you serd but I do want to remind anyone reading this that EVERYONE is different. The first few times I tried to stop taking suboxone I couldn't last more than 4 days. If you taper down CORRECTLY (NO CHEATING) you will be fine. I firmly believe about 75-80% is mental addiction and it actually can be harder than the physical part. I am on day 20 something... i stopped counting because it doesnt matter anymore, i am free, i feel good, life is good. The first week and a half was the hardest for me because I didn't know what to do with myself. This time i weened down to .5 mg for about a week, skipped a day in there somewhere. Sleeping sucks at first, RLS sucks, REQUIP / Ropinirole works wonders for RLS. Cold sweats didn't happen for me this time around, neither did diaharea. Anxiety was only really bad for 3 or 4 days and I took Xanax but only took it for those few days. I have no addiction to them or want to take them but they did help the first couple days. It is important to know what your triggers are and to avoid them. Break your routine, change things up, and EXCERSIZE. I know it seems like we success stories sound like repeats but it is true. Excesizing is essential. The fear alone scared me away from stopping for 3 and a half years. Don't be afraid, it is only as bad as you think it will be. Keep telling yourslef that it isn't that bad. Think of how you feel in the moment. I feel fine right now, what am i stressing about? It takes a lot of practice and getting used to talking yourself out of the anxiety of not taking it but it will work. What is the worst that happens? You don;t sleep? I didn't sleep well until the last 3 days and now I sleep nromal. Fatigue only really feels like it because Suboxone gives yuo energy and keeps you awake. It is how it feels to be normal! Think of cold sweats as a fever. You are sweating out the bad energy and the sickness in you. I just finally counted. I am on day 23 and have felt fine since day 5. It doesn't last as long as you think unless your coming off higher doses.
03-18-2011, 10:08 PM #1791
You will be amazed of how good you feel after a week. The sense of accomplishment is better than any high I have felt.
03-21-2011, 11:02 AM #1792
Suboxone Withdrawal and Tapering
I agree with what Rich said, about making the decision to really quit, but a friend of mine who isn't me was on Subo's for like 2 years because of the sleazy doctors who wanted more money, and the withdrawal wasn't anything as severe as Roxy withdrawal but it was bad and got worse slowly over a two week period. Sucked balls.
If you are hooked on Subos I think you need to taper really really slow but don't believe me ask your doctor. I made some charts on what my doc was doing for people, suboxone taper charts and what some of the patients were doing and the patients that tapered from 2mg down to zero over a period of at least a month did okay.
The docs look at you like you are an alien if you say you are withdrawing on 2mg well they don't know what it's like. Suboxone is STRONG stuff, if you start it the doc will likley front load you (bigger doses for a day or two, but then if he gives you permission you should be able to quickly get down to 2mg because the other stuff stays in you for LONG time, half life of 37 hours.
Good luck to everyone!
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03-22-2011, 11:46 AM #1793
This chart is a bunch of B.S.!!!! It's things like this that make people expect way more than actually is the case. You know, there are thousands of people out there wanting to quit sub's and imo people that post these day by day symptoms are out of line. This guy or no-one else can tell anyone how they will feel after they quit. My symptoms lasted for 5 days. Thats it! Not 3 weeks, not 4 weeks. It was a cake walk to tell you the truth, so if you want to quit, you should just do it without all these expectations on how other people tell you you will feel. I think what people need is support, not a road-map to failure before they even get started.
Originally Posted by serd.tnt
03-22-2011, 05:31 PM #1794
i just wanted to let everyone out there who is looking up suboxone withdrawl know that you can beat it. i have been on subs since i was 17 and am now 25. given 32mgs/day and stayed on that for the last 6 years or so. i got fed up with it and don't believe MOST sub docs want their patients off. either out of ignorance or fear of relapse. but if you want off you can do it if i am. 32mg is rediculous and also giving it to me the first time i try to stop >>>>>>. i was shooting 6 good NY bags a day. so i guess that's why he allowed me such a dose. over the last year i tapered myself down to .5-1mg a day. anyways i am on day 9 without suboxone. i've tried and failed a couple times to get off. stop reading the horror stories because it will not help you in getting off maintanence drugs. listen to positive music as much as possible. SING ALONG LOUDLY. it'll get your endorphins working. i am not saying it's the easiest thing ever but it is worth it. days 2-6 were the worst and now i am getting a decent amount of sleep. not as much as i used to but it will come back. i can prolly expect the WD too last another 3 weeks but i am over the worst and not looking back. it is manageable. people that usually post about this topic are the ones who are not going to make it anyways. sad but true. if you want it you can get off it. 32mg for 6 years and i am off it. STAY STRONG. i am not saying it's easy by anymeans. but nothing worth doing is. i am proud of myself and would like to help others through this rough patch that will end in being without dependence on what i believe to be an evil drug. Opioid maintanence should be the last resort. not the first. so if you are thinkin about getting on it PLEASE think again.
03-22-2011, 05:37 PM #1795
AGREED. i jsut posted about this same thing kind of. read my post. i was using 32mg/day for 6 years and i am on day 9 without it. the WD went up and now for the last 2 days has been the same. i will prolly feel like this for awhile longer but i was on the drug very long. YOU CAN DO IT PEOPLE.STOP LOOKING FOR ANSWERS ON THE INTERNET. ALL IT DID WAS MAKE THE THOUGH OF GETTING OFF HARDER FOR ME. read my last post if you want. STAY STRONG. "NOW IS THE TIME FOR ME TO RISE TO MY FEET. WIPE THE SPIT FROM MY FACE, WIPE THE TEARS FROM MY EYES. IVE GOT TO TAKE MY LIFE BACK, ONE CHANCE TO MAKE IT RIGHT!."
Originally Posted by 616jason616
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03-26-2011, 09:17 PM #1796
Originally Posted by SubFree
Hello friend. I agree with most everything you say, espcially about docters. Some don't taper well. Some have to get off. Ten yr methadone two years sub. I quit cold turkey 12 days ago at 8 mg. First 3 days I was making fun of it. After day 7 I thought it might be about over. Hah. Days 8 9 10 11 were hell days. I quit without so much as an aspirin. If I would of had something I would have taken it but I let myself get trapped in alone with a cat that needed attention and got too sick to go.
I am also 60 yr old and weigh 300 lbs but I am six three so not as enormous as you might think.. Treadmill was a savior but I had to walk the carpet for days. Even the first setting was too high. Push ups standing deep into another room at the door helped and I happened to play you tube songs from the past. Day 12 and it is breaking my way. I know I still have dues to pay. I have one question if anyone knows. I have not had that deep dark clinical depression that I use to have. Is it coming? I kicked methadone like this twice and depression was the worst.
I feel fine right now on day 12 but I know it is not close to being over yet this has to be hump day somewhat for me. Lost 2 lbs a day so far. Good. Hey If I can do it, anyone can. Utopia is just arround the corner. Get mad and get moving.... My last withdrawal......... so help me God...........................
03-30-2011, 12:40 AM #1797
I am at the end of my tenth day and still experiencing withdrawals. Mine were similar to the person that listed their withdrawals everyday so it's not b.s.! It varies from person to person but the most common length for sub w/d that I hear is 2 weeks. Day 5 for me was the worst and it's getting a little better each day but I still have chills, can't sleep at all, very sore and achy, anxious, and no motivation
03-30-2011, 05:24 AM #1798
Results will very!!
It totally depends on your taper, mental state and support! The Bupinorphine stays in your system longer and that is why it is so good at keeping people off their drug of choice. If you are trying to come off of 8mg a day OR MORE, it will be ruff! You need to taper!!!! Or it can be a month of hell. You need to get down to 1mg a day and then take 1mg not at the same time the next day you need to wait until you feel like ???? you need to have the will power and it's hard I know! You need to then try and go a day and a half before your next 1mg dose. And then fight to go 2 days and then take that 1mg dose. And repeat the 1mg every 2 days for 6 days if possible and then quit! This should be a month long processes. It will cut the withdrawal in half and allow your brain to start working on its own again quicker. And with the depression have you doctor prescribe a anti-depressant, and start taking it 1 week before you totally stop the Soboxone. And for anybody taking 10mg perc's or vicodin, DO NOT USE SOBOXONE!!!! It was designed for >>>>>> users. The withdrawal of Soboxone is way worse! 4yr Soboxone user. Quit twice. Have used >>>>>>. Vic's & Perc's 10mg X 6 to 10 pills daily or more. Withdrawal way less with perc's and vic's then Suboxone! And exercise, drink Gatorade and listen to your favorite music loud!!! Try to cry it releases endorphins! It really help!!! Most of all; STAY BUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03-30-2011, 02:07 PM #1799
Originally Posted by JoshuaG
Buddy I agree with every single thing you said. Kicking at 8 mg has put me through something I could not do again if had known what was coming. Day 15 stil feel like death warmed over. Went to grocery store cause I had to. I smell my underarms after washing wi ivory soap and the stuff is smelling and making me sick before I get dried off. God a mighty. Good news is since day 12 it has let up a little each day. No turning back. Feel so so at the moment but when I catch 15 minutes sleep I wake up nauseated burning and like I almost need to throw up but I just gag. Ten yr methadone two yr sub is quite a ride. Time to pay for my ticket. Stay strong.......Anybody ever used something good for nausea?? That's all I want..
04-01-2011, 03:36 PM #1800
I am not sure where some of you are coming up with some of your information. You can not go from methadone to suboxone. You will get very, very sick. You have to wait preferrably 48 hours without any meth in your system to go on subs to prevent the sickness. This does not hold true with >>>>>>. You can usually take subs around 6 hours after your last shot of >>>>>>. I am shocked that people are taking suboxone for pill addictions. Well surprised. To my knowledge and from what my doctor told me when I started suboxone back in March 2003 (when it had first come out) he said it was mainly for >>>>>> addicts. I have pretty much been on subs since then. I was off for a year at one point and then I was off while I was pregnant. I only take 1/2 a pill to a pill a day at the most. Some days I can skip a dose. But by the 3rd day of no meds I can feel slightly ill. But to me the benefits greatly outweigh the negatives. Suboxone saved my life. It allowed me to become a normal productive citizen. It actually changed my thought processes. If you are on pills do not take subs. You don't need it. Subs are for hard core drug addicts not pill poppers.