[justice4us]

hello i need your help and advice. i live in a small town, where oxycontin addiction and other pill addiction is very very very high, many crimes are commited because of this addiction, and our "sherriff" is taking on this war against drugs and promises to keep drugs out of this county.Their is not many choices for us addicts but jail or suboxone clinic and 95% picked the suboxone clinic and thank god because it is a life saver. Well our sherriff and the judge in this town think that suboxone is BAD and they want it out of here they already ran one doctor off and now they are working on mine. My doctor was at the bank the other night and our lovely sherrif met him there and took the doctor back to his office and then the sherrif LOOKED through all the charts and made a list of everyone who is on suboxone. CAN HE DO THAT!!!! i hate this place.... the "reason" the sherrif did this is so he can make sure that none of us is selling our pills. what as a citizen can i do to protect my rights and my medical records.... does HIPPA apply to this, and if he had a court order do i have a right to see it?

PISSED OFF IN KENTUCKY AND WANT JUSTICE!!!!!

[Shaggy Pickles]

Its ignorant people like your sheriff that make it hard for people who are trying to do the right thing and get clean.
I'm almost certain he had no right to look over the doctor's records. There is legally binding doctor / patient confidentially as well. The doctor shouldn't have even let him look at them unless he had some sort of warrant which I doubt he could get.
I really don't have any advice for you but I'll be watching this thread to see how it turns out.

[no_more_tram]

WOW!!! I don't know what to say. That's an awful thing. You would think that the sheriff would want people to get clean and stay clean, instead what he's going to do is cause a lot of problems for addicts, which in the end he might regret what he's doing. I don't know anything about the Suboxone laws in my state let alone yours, but I hope and pray that you are able to continue getting it and stay clean. Please keep us updated on this. Take Care!

[no_more_tram]

Originally Posted by no_more_tram

WOW!!! I don't know what to say. That's an awful thing. You would think that the sheriff would want people to get clean and stay clean, instead what he's going to do is cause a lot of problems for addicts, which in the end he might regret what he's doing. I don't know anything about the Suboxone laws in my state let alone yours, but I hope and pray that you are able to continue getting it and stay clean. Please keep us updated on this. Take Care!

And also about the HIPPA law, I don't see how he's allowed to do that, he may not be. Maybe someone should go to the higher ups about this, I wouldn't just let this ******** go, I say get as many people as you can from the Suboxone clinic and do what you can to save yourselves.

[cheekysod]

holy sh!t its stories like that make me glad to live in the uk.
what is hippa.

man i feel so bad for you, what a jerk off for a sheriff.

we watch cops uncut, wow, just seen the one where the sheriff pulls over a car (innocent people, mistaken identity) and last member of the family the dog comes out, and he blows it away with his gun.

gun toting sheriffs, id rather have scotland yard anyday.

good luck to you justice4us, thats sounds like total bullsh!t and im sure he cant get away with that. mind you he already has.
wow

[MaisieC]

How did you find out about what the sheriff did? Have you talked to your doctor? That's outrageous!

I think if I were you I would start with the ACLU. I don't know if there is a local branch or not, but you could try their website and go from there. That sheriff is waaaaay out of line!

Good luck, and please let us know what happens.

Take care,
Maisie

[justice4us]

Hey everybody thanks for the support. How I found out is because several of his other patients are talking about it, and his receptionist has mentioned it as well. Its total bull********, I work in a clinic and I don’t want the sheriff or anybody else knowing my business. So I guess after the "raid of charts" our sheriff lets call him "MARK" told my doctor that he wants his patients pill counted more often and drug tested EVERY VISIT, and if they fail either test then we are automatically discharged and our doctor is SUPPOSED to repot it to "marks" office. I don’t know what the fu*k Mr. Mark is going to do if some one fails the pill count or the drug screen..... But were I live it seems like they (the judge and the police) make their own rules..... hell in this county you get 5 years for selling one pill.....these idiots think that suboxone is bad, that you can get high off it like a oxy.....they don’t understand that you don’t get high you get normal..... oh let me tell you this ********.... my co-workers boyfriend had to go to court over some bad checks (JUST CHECKS NOTHING ELSE) and the judge..."JUDGE DICK".... must had a hair up his ass, and decide that everybody who came before him no matter what the charge was going to get a drug screen and if they were positive for ANYTHING they had to either show proof that they were prescribed any medication go home and bring the bottle back with the correct amount of pills in it, or tell who they bought the pills or any other drugs from, or if they don’t tell or show proof of script then STRAIGHT TO JAIL..... LUCKILY my coworkers b/f had his bottle and the right amount in it he had to go ALL THE WAY home and back though...... oh... and here’s another stupid thing too... if I get pulled over by a cop and they find a bottle of pills (lortab,perocet,xanax,suboxone,oxycontin,TRAMADOL or any other controlled med) they will look and see how many is missing and if you have too many gone, guess what.....you get a nice charge of TRAFFICKING A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE and a trip to jail..... and this is just the tip of the iceberg.....I have so many stories to tell about how dirty our cops and judges are but never had anywhere to say it without getting in any sort of trouble, god forbid if you say anything about the holy sheriff because if you do then apparently your a piece of trash!!! But his day will come..... Hey thanks for letting me vent a little anger..... Its just so unfair here.......

[IfItDoesTheTrick]

I have a similar problem in my hometown. As I said in another post you can find and buy heroin or oxycontin faster then you can find or buy baby formula or milk.

I hate that since they cant catch the actual people who are doing wrong that they go after the ones that are trying to do right or have a legitimate reason to be taking meds. I know many people that have had to go on suboxone or do other therapy to get off opiates, and its crazy how it is so hard to do. The community has targeted clinics and shut them down because they dont want them on their streets, they would rather have a bunch of crazy addicts lurking the streets trying to score. Why would they not want the people to get better so they can give something back for the community. If the sheriff did his job the towns would probably not be the way the are. Its not like these problems happen instantly or overnight.

I cant believe they are able to count your pills. would you get in the same trouble for taking one too many as you would for selling one. They would have no way to tell the difference.

Good luck. If you shoot the sheriff, just don't shoot the deputy.

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by IfItDoesTheTrick

I have a similar problem in my hometown. As I said in another post you can find and buy heroin or oxycontin faster then you can find or buy baby formula or milk.
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Good luck. If you shoot the sheriff, just don't shoot the deputy.

I'm not sure what you're asking in your post .... are you wanting info or just venting? If you shoot the sheriff, what difference would it make if you just shoot the deputy and the entire force? You'll have to tell me what you're wanting to know. I can't really tell from your post. God bless.

[gordoheli]

You should call the ACLU and report this, it's not legal and the sheriff is stepping all over your civil rights. No Sheriff or law enforcement are allowed to search your vehicle or purse/backpack unless they have a reason to believe you have a weapon, or if they can smell pot, or if you are intoxicated.

Look it up in your phone book, they will go after them and it doesn't cost you anything. It will help if several of you can all tell the same thing to them. He may just be out of a job and the county might be liable for a lawsuite paying you!! Cops just can't go around breaking laws because they are on a quest to satisfy their own self interests.

I hope you follow up on this because it sounds like this guy will ruin someones life if he hasn't already. Good luck!

[Cats Meow]

I was just going to suggest the same thing the poster above said. Contact the ACLU, some nice media coverage especially for an elected official like a Sheriff who impedes on people's civil rights will stop him cold. If this story is true, the doctor is just as much to blame, he too violated HIPPA laws, he knows better, he's going to have to prove duress or lose his license. Sounds like the Sheriff had some dirt on the good doctor, and he caved, nevertheless, all his patients confidentiality has been compromised, and since he's not above the law, the Governor will fire him, and the State will have to pay out huge court settlements. This is cut and dry, if true, which I can't believe that it is.

[newyorkgal]

I work as a paralegal in a law office. There is NO WAY its legal for a doctor to release any information to anyone unless that person signs an authorization allowing said doctor to release said info. So the law is definitely being broken here. As far as the reference to shooting the sheriff but not the deputy, the Bob Marley/Eric Clapton ref was very funny. Don't shoot anyway. Just contact a lawyer in your town. This illegal act has to be stopped. Where do u live by the way?

[Cats Meow]

He said Kentucky, which has the strictest narc enforcement in the nation anyway.

[Robert_325]

Kentucky and Tennesssee both are about the worst. Anyone who ever did any transporting from Texas would purposely drive around those states simply to avoid them. It's like dealing with the freakin Gestapo there. God bless.

[DadsWatchinU]

I am sorry to admit I too was one of those idiots before having a family member involved in treatment that thought you were just exchanging one drug for another, and shame on me for judging people without ever even doing any reading or investigating on the subject. Now I am becoming somewhat of an expert ( emphesins on somewhat ) on the recovery of a drug addiction condiction & lifestyle, unfortunately unless you have been involved with a loved one or work in the industry you dont care enough to find out what these medications really do. I live in Ohio right next to Kentucky and can attest to the severe nature of the law inforcement when it comes to drugs, my family members troubles began in Kentucky and tumbled over to Ohio and Kentucky was much harsher and had virtually no treatment centers in Northern kentucky. Sad really, the drugs were so easy to get, but the treatment was no were to be found, and like the thread says, they treat the medicines as if it is hard core drug use. I truely believe the answer to the war on drugs are treatments centers and better education, no one dreams of being a drug addict one day...ever lay on your back in the grass looking up at the clouds when you were young dreaming about what you were going to be??? Bet it wasnt a drug addict! Give America it's dreams backs...Treatments Centers, Education, Real help for addicts.. God Bless & Good Health my friends ...hey Mark

[newyorkgal]

Dear Dad, Sorry you had to learn the hard way by having a family member involved in addiction but still, knowledge gained is a good thing. It's easy to lump a whole group of people into one category of "Junky" when you are so correctx. No one wanted to end up an addict. We all had dreams and desires and didn't realize we would get so sidetracked by narcotics. The war on drugs is a farce. Jailing users is a joke. Jail dealers, treat addicts and educate youngsters.