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Old 02-19-2008, 03:08 PM
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Unhappy New to this, But willing to try

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i happen to get an update on this whenever someone posts on this thread i made last year...

i have been completely clean since then and life has been super cool... i still do find it hard to see and talk to the friends i had to discard to get out of the lifestyle... but its what you have to do to get it done...

i wanted to point out a few things that maybe you overlooked about my posts...

1. i was on subs for about 5 and half months or so doing a relatively slow taper down as i explained when i went through it. this whole thread is about what people who have done OC's like myself and are now quitting subs... thats all... i was never talking about taking subs or for how long or any of that... i was talking about what i went through when i QUIT SUBS...

2. you were right about the fact that i didnt have to work during this time... i am a musician and it was downtime... HOWEVER... outside of the first 3 maybe 4 days... it would be better to be at work because it keeps you going and though you are drained out of your mind and hurting your body is rebuilding itself faster... i ran on the treadmill and went for walks quite a bit during that time... and its natural high it gave me was paramount during that depressing ass time... so with that being said... i also i noted that every person is different and will experience things differently... i was just trying to give a little insight to what i was going through because at that time i was looking for someone who could have told me what to expect.

i come back here to read about people and see if things have progressed in the sub-world... i have alot of friends that are messed up on "H" and OC's and i would love it if they would hit rock bottom and go for it with subs like i did...

i probably couldnt have done any other way...

take care
NELB
To the NELB guy,
My boyfriend and i are soon to be getting off suboxone in the next few months, However, I'm completely lazy...I'll be honest for my best intrest, How do you freakin excersize while feeling so yucky?? I totally agree everyone is different but gosh i want off this nasty roller coaster. We were on vicodin/percocet and then twoards the end of our crazyness someone told my boyfriend to try methadone(Biggest freakin mistake we made) but since then we got off that with the help of a super great doctor able to prescribe us suboxone... but I'm scared as hell to try to quit it on my own, I only take less than 2milg of the suboxone now, but still scared... thanks for your story man, it did help a lot of people and I'm hopping it'll help us, since i soon would like to start a family. Good luck to you all, & thanks a bunch for sharing!
xoxo, Brat2
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Old 04-14-2008, 02:33 PM
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Angry Suboxone Withdrawal was hell for ONE week!

Hello everyone

I would like to post MY experience with the hope of helping someone else. First I would like to thank NeverLookingBack, I read his post DAILY during my withdrawal HELL and this help a great deal.
First, let me say that I am by no means a Suboxone professional, I just want everyone on this drug to know what I went through. I have been on medication for severe pain for about 4 years, at first it was just oxycodone, then Methadone for 2 years. I never though I would become addicted although my doctor insist that I am not an addict but my body is "physically dependent" on the medication, I have used quotation because as a Medical student who also works at a medical facility, I KNOW WHAT DOCTORS DO??? THEY WANT YOUR BUSINESS/MONEY Yes, HEALTHCARE is a BUSINESS now. anywhoo, whatever this pill popping habit of mine was, I just wanted it to end. I hated wondering when to fill my next script for over 175 Methadone (a month), do I have enough in my 10 handbags? is there any in the car to hold me over for the day, is there any in my uniform pocket.... you guys get the picture. All the while I had no clue that I was addicted, I had to take them just to feel NORMAL. After feeling guilty of taking a pill first thing in the morning WITH NO PAIN, I got sick of me, I was never addicted to anything never smoked anything, no needles, WHAT THE DILLIO..
When I told my doctor that I did not want to take Oxycodone anymore, guess what he said, "Well, what will you do for pain"? fair question, I think what he meant was, "how will I pay for my club membership? I had no response then because I knew I would suffer, and I already had over $10,000 in ER hospital bills that I could not pay so I felt obligated to stay on some form of pain meds. He then recommended METHADONE, he said it was long acting and cheaper. I believe thats when my problems started, I though the Methadone at first was so different, it did not make me high, so I though, I felt "Normal" at first and was happy to get off Oxycodone. But it went on and on and on filling that big script every month . If I had only research Methadone...

O.K. So my decision came when I felt as a student I could not concentrate on my studies, I started as a 4.0 grade average to failing a semester. I could no longer carry on an intelligent conversation without getting emotional and forgetting what I was saying in between. I could not even read, my brain could not process anything. except going to work. My house looked like a pig pen, my car pig pen too...what happen to me I though.
Well after begging my doctor for about 7 months to get me off Methadone, with Suboxone he finally gave in, I think he felt he was going to loose me, also I DO NOT THINK DOCTORS ARE TRULY EDUCATED on this drugs, I thinks there is still much to learn.

When I took my first dose of 12mg, after about 48hrs off Methadone I was not sure I was in withdrawal,no diarrhea, no vomiting, however the shakes was IMPOSSIBLE, so I though this was it. Well, I still felt like ******************** hrs later, not worst but bad!! after about 2 days the suboxone made me feel better. I may have had precipitated withdrawal. not sure, it was too mild, this Methadone stays and HOLDS ON TIGHT to the body. I kept taking the Sub for the next 2 weeks all the while tapering down, at one point I stopped for 2 days but could not continue and took a 1/2mg SUB. Week 3, I decided that if I do not stop now, I will end up doing the same thing I did with Methadone SUBOXONE cost me $158 for half of the script 30 pills, with insurance, RIDICULOUS PRICE, this also gave me the incentive to stop the madness so I took my last dose of 1/4mg of 8mg pill on a Sunday night at work.

That was one week ago and I AM NOT MYSELF YET, imagine one week later still hot/cold feeling, THE RESTLESS LEG IS THE WORST got better on day 6 gets worst at night, bengay or icy hot rub on legs helped, aspirin too. but I think the best for me was warm soaks as hot and as long as can bare. The runs came on day 4, lasted 2-3days but it was mild too, I tried taking walks with the dog, this help tremendously (thanks NELB) of course I spent the first 5 days on the couch, TALK ABOUT NO ENERGY, No sleep, 2hrs on average, still cant sleep today even with benedryl, clonidine (for BP) even Trazadone, My husband was ready to leave because I seem like a bum, and I was quite angry at him for no reason screaming like a mad person. I told him to not talk to me for 3 days, I had no clue I need more than that. but he was a good sport.

Today is day 8 and I can now get up from the couch, I did work on day 4, but I had to keep moving, it was not easy and I had to try to hide my shakes and creepy crawlies from my fellow employees. Day 5 however was the worst it was as if the meds were saying you B*tch love us? well take this.... I felt so bad I kept looking at the Suboxone bottle. but never took any. I have since developed a respiratory infection constant coughing and was wondering if anyone else has had this response/problem after quitting SUB, it may not be related but I was wondering.
I know with time it will get better, but honestly I would have NEVER said this 3 days ago while in HELL, SH...T, PAIN...NAUSEA..DIZZY..FUZZY LIGHT SENSITIVE..NO SLEEP...EMOTIONAL .... RESTLESS LEG God, where are you???

If you are on the road to recovery, please be patient with your body.. it will work out..it will end.
feedback appreciated!!
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Old 08-28-2008, 05:22 AM
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Default body aches for over a month after Methadone/Suboxone detox?

Hey all, Can anyone help!!! After taking Metadone for about 3yrs and Suboxone for 3 months. Can anyone tell me how long I will have this restlless body/legs painfull back for? it has been a month since I have had Suboxone and my body still hurts like hell, I take adderall to stay awake at work and lunesta to sleep. I now sleep for 4-5 hrs, it is getting better.


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hey you guys

i have been really busy but also super tired in the process. i tried not working out of running for the past 3 days and tried doing things that kept my mind occupied. all is well in my camp for the most part. i also have the stomach problems... my appetite is there but i fear the aftermath if you get what i mean. i am constantly going to the bathroom. i have read over and over that your energy comes back somewhere within the 3rd week of this process. i can feel each day it getting a little better and though i know its probably not smart i do drink red bull and coffee for a little pep and inspiration. but the crash is rediculous. i am going to run on the treadmill now at 10:45 at night because i feel the need to exercise.

sorry gotta run
stay strong
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Old 08-28-2008, 09:55 AM
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Hey all, Can anyone help!!! After taking Metadone for about 3yrs and Suboxone for 3 months. Can anyone tell me how long I will have this restlless body/legs painfull back for? it has been a month since I have had Suboxone and my body still hurts like hell, I take adderall to stay awake at work and lunesta to sleep. I now sleep for 4-5 hrs, it is getting better.


It's tough to say FOR SURE what is causing the problem. I don't know what dose of methadone you were on but high doses can linger for a long time and cause pain similar to what you describe. I use caution saying that however as a few months should be more than long enough for that to subside. At the same time I don't know what dose of suboxone you were on as when we jump off if we have not tapered off properly that can also have lingering effects on us. The liklihood of suboxone causing this after only three months use is also unlikely unless you were at a very high dose when you stopped therapy. What was your ending dose of suboxone???

I am not an advocate AT ALL of using adderall to stay awake. If it's used for a medicinal purpose as intended by the drug manufacturer it has a positive benefit. But I doubt you will find it recommended anywhere to use adderall just for staying awake. Amphetamines can cause symptoms as you describe and this is the most likely cause of your problems based solely on what you have shared. Sleeplessness, body pain, restlessness, these are all symptoms of amphetamine use. We would require more information to provide you with more answers.
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