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10-27-2006, 07:05 PM
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I was hooked progressively over a 5 year period taking up to 25 per day......it sucked.....it was a secret....sneaking ....lying....I wanted freedom for a long time ...but I dragged it out ...you can go to earlier threads ....of mine...I was pathetic....but now changed...suboxone worked for me....it could for you tooo |
10-27-2006, 07:25 PM
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Sparky, I love your message. Keep spreading the truth!
Amy, I'm glad you got something from the NA meeting. Keep going back. Many have stayed clean for years with the program's help. The easy part is getting clean. It is difficult to stay clean for years.
NS Clueless, Girlie, X - Check in and let us know how you are doing.
Chrish
Clean Date: 10/11/05
Drugs are a big lie. Don't believe the lie.
***HOW TO FIND LOCAL NA MEETINGS**** http://www.na.org/links-toc.htm |
10-27-2006, 09:05 PM
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Degree. Sparky was right about the one foot in front of the other. I really wasn't sure I wanted to quit.. Well I did.. it was financially draining.. you are good to only be spending $400 per month.. I was at 3-4 times that. But I loved the feeling of the pills.. the numbing.. I felt safe..protected from the boredom and pain of the world. But I took the steps .. and I just did it. I commited to the board a date, and I made the appt and took the sub. It will be 3 weeks tomorrow that I took my last percocet. Seems like much longer. I do still miss them at times, but it was just one of those things that had to be done. I am a responsible person and once I committed to it, to others mostly, I wasn't going to turn back. And I will tell you I miss them less with each day. You get used to living your life like you did for sooooooo many years before the drug. I had to give myself a last hurrah...actually had a few, but the appointment was made and when the day came, I stuck to it. ... but you have to get going with the steps. Just do it! 
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10-28-2006, 10:01 AM
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deegee......been on sub 4-5 weeks, never even heard of it till i came on board here...for me i needed to stop living a lie, and the $$ was killing me........when and if you call the suboxone doctor, be prepared to have to have to wait a while for an appt....as far as the sub working, i havent thought of a pill in 5 weeks!...hoping to be getting off it soon. my daily usuage was 5 vicodens a day for about 2 yrs~~~~~~hope this answered some of your questions.good luck |
10-28-2006, 11:50 AM
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some say the lesser amount of pills you take the easier the w/d...but when I was taking only 6-8 a day....I planned very carefully to not have to do w/d's....so thats how the whole obsession with finding different pill sources started.....I tried to plan each new source so they would all fall into place...that was a job in itself....sometimes it did'nt always work out and I'd be in pure hell...waiting ....tempted to ask people who were clueless about my addiction if they had any vike....playing off a super bad back ache...and toward the end it did'nt seem like I had enough sources and I wanted to find more sources and it just was weighing down my whole life....I couldn't even leave town for fear of running out....I drove miles for one source.....doctor shopped....damm lucky ...I wasn't caught because doc shopping is illegal....but I had up to about a 400 pill a month yo yo going on....so glad to be done; to have the nightmare over.....it (addiction) never goes away on its own....it will hold you captive until you seek professional help....or bite the bullet and go cold turkey (
god willing....suboxone is way easier.....prayers to all still in the battle |
10-28-2006, 03:09 PM
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I'm not completely 100% sure my info is correct....but I believe the difference between subutex and suboxone is......suboxone also has an indredient in it to take away cravings....and the subutex has the ability (for those to have an attraction for it) the ability to intraveneously take it.....but they both have the same purpose and end effect I think...and that is a segway to get off opiate of choice.... |
10-28-2006, 04:01 PM
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Subutex is strait buprenorphene while suboxone is buprenorphene and naloxone.The naloxone is only there for people who try to inject or snort.When suboxone is taken sublingualy the naloxone is ineffective.So both drugs are exactly the same if your taking it properly.They aren't even going to release suboxone here in Canada just the subutex....Dave |
10-28-2006, 07:58 PM
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Hi, Im 23/M and have been unknowingly addicted to pain pills for the past 2 years. I have relapsed once in the past 4 months and I am again trying to stop. I stumbled across this board and have been reading posts. It was by reading this board that I knew I had a problem. I was taking up to 3 pills a day (lortab 7.5) I am right now on day 8 of my last pill. The first few days were ruff, but I just held on. anyways I will post more later. i need to run. just thought i would introduce myself. |
10-28-2006, 08:46 PM
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DarkShines... Welcome! It is good that you recognized your problem and quit when you were at a realtively low level of use. Believe me, it would have gotten worse over time.. Are you feeling ok? If you are on day 8 of w/d you are probably thru the worst of the physical withdrawal.. it is the mental addiction...cravings..depression that can linger for weeks or months even.. Just know you did the right thing and we are here for any questions you have or support you need!
Cranky... how you doing??? |
10-29-2006, 01:27 AM
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yeah. Ive been taking zoloft for about 4 years for depression. when I first stopped taking the tabs (only cuz I ran out of supply) I had a HUGE waive of depression hit me. I almost killed myself. This is what scared me the first time about the withdrawals. I ended up relapsing and again, it is when I am out of supply and know I have to go through it again that I seem to think straight and tell myself I have to get off and STAY off the tabs. That is where I am today. For some reason the mornings are the worst.. and the nights are better. I am curious to know how (and if) the zoloft affects my pill habit. any comments, advise, or words of wisdom would be helpful. |
10-29-2006, 01:33 AM
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TURN YOUR CLOCKS BACK AN HOUR, THAT MEANS ONE MORE HOUR OF SLEEP!!! |
10-29-2006, 08:58 AM
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hi everybody,
sorry i havent posted in a while well its been since 10/16/06 since i had a pain pill. i feel free i cant believe i made it this far!
i went to my pain magement and my doc put me on 20mgs of methadone for the pain and i have to tell ya i havent had any pain at all! also i just quit smoking after 20 years! the meth helps with that also, i dont crave a single ciggie or a pain pill
Methadone really works i dont get high from it and i have stayed clean since i have been out of detox on oct 20th
I never felt better in my life, no depression , no anixety ,nothing my doc is even taking me off my heart meds cuz my heart rate decreased to about 75 -80 beats which is really good for me because my heart rate was up to 155 beats and considing im on dexedrine (forADHD its a sronge stimulant). but it seems the amount of pills i was taking was making my heart race really bad.
I'm even considering going to a meeting , but im still not to sure about it i heard meetings are a great way to meet ppl and to stay clean . I also heard AA id better than NA i dont drink never had any problems with drinking but everyone told me AA is more welcoming than NA so i really dont know which to go to.
this is a great forum and i have gotten alot of support from ppl that are going through the same thing, this place is a life saver.
Thanks to everyone who was able to share there stories and experiencs on the forum and all the sucess stories as well, its always nice to hear how sucessful one can be i know im still early in my recovery but i dont think i'll ever go back to taking anymore pills ever again my husband has pills and im not even tempted to look or to take them.
well thanks for letting me share my story.
Clean Date:10/16/06
luv n hugs,
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10-29-2006, 10:32 AM
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Clarkie-??
How ya doing? Glad to hear you went thru detox. I just hope u know and understand all the probs that go along with Methdone. It is an opiate and has its own addiction probs. U on for weaning or maintence? Well, I wish u the best, but really u just traded one drug for another. Meth is alot harder to detox from then anyother opiate, or drug. Hope u never have to go thru that. Meth wd can last for months. Good Luck!
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10-29-2006, 10:55 AM
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hi abey,
how are you? hows everything going? hows your pain? i'm on methadone maintance i know the risks with meth but it was either back surgery or meth and the doc said it would be 50/50 chance of recovery if i went with the surgery, plus with surgery i would have to be on pain meds and i definalty dont want that. so i choose the meth, I'll probably have to be on it for the rest of my life but thank you for your concern i really apprcaite it.
take care!
luv n hugs,
Clarkie[:I]
luv n hugs Clarkie |
10-29-2006, 12:59 PM
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quote:Originally posted by chrish1
Sparky, I love your message. Keep spreading the truth!
Amy, I'm glad you got something from the NA meeting. Keep going back. Many have stayed clean for years with the program's help. The easy part is getting clean. It is difficult to stay clean for years.
NS Clueless, Girlie, X - Check in and let us know how you are doing.
Chrish
Clean Date: 10/11/05
Drugs are a big lie. Don't believe the lie.
***HOW TO FIND LOCAL NA MEETINGS****
http://www.na.org/links-toc.htm
| Thanks Chrish. I just got back in town and will be going to two meeting this afternoon/evening. They really work. I really need them. It was a tough weekend and I want my pills so bad. Knowing it wouldn't make it better, but I wanted them. I need to go and talk to somone today. Then I'll feel better, I am sure.
Thanks again,
Amy |
10-29-2006, 06:52 PM
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~~~~~~~~~~~amy good for you!!..you seem to know what to do to stay clean....thats awesome..wanting a pill, and opting for a meeting instead?..well, i'm betting your on your way to a successful recovery...i wish i had the courage for a meeting, instead i am in private therapy..good job amy!...btw..were the cravings bad...any triggers?? |
10-29-2006, 07:02 PM
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hi i'm kind of addicted to morphine pills. im taking about 9 30mg a day sometimes moire and cant kick the habit....what to do? |
10-29-2006, 11:39 PM
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hi, ive been reading and reading and reading all of your posts and feel like I know all of you,i'm sooo sick and tired of taking those damn hydros and cannot wait to be off of them,I made an appt. for 10am this halloween ( 2days away) to start this sub.treatment ,Just wanted to know if 24 hr.withdrawal is long enough off the hydros.I cant wait to be off these things and start feeling normal and not depending on them just to lift my head off the pillow. Ive been taking them evertday for abt. 8yrs im up to bet.10-25 daily (loracet10)I would quit right now if it wasnt for the horrible withdrawals, I dont have the time to take to be laid up so I hope the suboxone is what I need.thanks for listening.Tammy |
10-30-2006, 07:42 AM
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hi Tammy,
good for you im glad you made the first step to recovery.i just got out of detox my drug of choice was perks 20 10's a day and diauldid i suffer from chronic back pain and now i go to a pain clinic and they gave me methadone,
the withdrawl lasts about 3 days sub is a great med so i heard from ppl in this forum, your doing the right thing are you going to detox?
try AA or NA from what i hear they really work, im gonna start going to meetings
i know excaclty what your going through its like you need the pills just to get out of bed to funtion ect.
i was on them for 16 years then i just decided one day that i needed to get off them so i went through i 5 day detox and they gave me meth and valium then weaned me off them by the 4th day i was funtioning like a human being its the best thing i ever did .
good luck and let us know how your doing.
luv n hugs Clarkie |
10-30-2006, 08:16 AM
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quote:Originally posted by sparky
some say the lesser amount of pills you take the easier the w/d...but when I was taking only 6-8 a day....I planned very carefully to not have to do w/d's....so thats how the whole obsession with finding different pill sources started.....I tried to plan each new source so they would all fall into place...that was a job in itself....sometimes it did'nt always work out and I'd be in pure hell...waiting ....tempted to ask people who were clueless about my addiction if they had any vike....playing off a super bad back ache...and toward the end it did'nt seem like I had enough sources and I wanted to find more sources and it just was weighing down my whole life....I couldn't even leave town for fear of running out....I drove miles for one source.....doctor shopped....damm lucky ...I wasn't caught because doc shopping is illegal....but I had up to about a 400 pill a month yo yo going on....so glad to be done; to have the nightmare over.....it (addiction) never goes away on its own....it will hold you captive until you seek professional help....or bite the bullet and go cold turkey (
god willing....suboxone is way easier.....prayers to all still in the battle
| Lord Sparky, that could be me writing that story. I am so glad that nightmare part is over. I'm still having a hard time. The sub is working, but I feel I need a higher dose, but I can now see a light at the end of the tunnell where before there was nothing but darkness. But I remember the doctor shopping, the asking a friend I knew that had vikes if I could have a few for my bad back, etc. I lived every day around getting those pills and freaking out when I got low. Anyway, I need to start doing what they pay me here to do.
Have a great day everyone!
Amy |
10-30-2006, 08:20 AM
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~~~~~~~~~~~amy good for you!!..you seem to know what to do to stay clean....thats awesome..wanting a pill, and opting for a meeting instead?..well, i'm betting your on your way to a successful recovery...i wish i had the courage for a meeting, instead i am in private therapy..good job amy!...btw..were the cravings bad...any triggers??
| Thank you NY! I am trying. i am not sure the triggers other than just habit. I guess maybe like someone who smokes I hear misses holding the cigarette in there hand? Not sure. But I made it through the weekend. My doctor said it would be a tough time and he was right. Have a great day and good luck to you! Give yourself credit, you have tons of courage, you have no idea how much YOUR courage and posting have inspired me!!!! Enjoy your day!!!!!
Amy |
10-30-2006, 08:23 AM
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hi, ive been reading and reading and reading all of your posts and feel like I know all of you,i'm sooo sick and tired of taking those damn hydros and cannot wait to be off of them,I made an appt. for 10am this halloween ( 2days away) to start this sub.treatment ,Just wanted to know if 24 hr.withdrawal is long enough off the hydros.I cant wait to be off these things and start feeling normal and not depending on them just to lift my head off the pillow. Ive been taking them evertday for abt. 8yrs im up to bet.10-25 daily (loracet10)I would quit right now if it wasnt for the horrible withdrawals, I dont have the time to take to be laid up so I hope the suboxone is what I need.thanks for listening.Tammy
| Tammy, I started sub about 7:00 last Tuesday night and I had had my last vike at 9:30 that morning, my doctor said it was fine. I can't remember all his doctor talk, but the bottom line was it was ok. He told me good reason why it didn't matter how long you had been of the vikes but I don't remember other than it made perfect sense to me. ALWAYS here to listen. This board has been a lifesaver for me!
Amy |
10-30-2006, 08:36 AM
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Morticia~
We are all doing good. Thanks for asking.
I am having 2 total disc relpacements in Jan. Oh, I cant wait. They say I have a 95% pain free chance, after its done. I'm up to about 120, 10mg Lorcets every 10 days. Thats to just keep my pain at the lowest level. [V]
Hows ur hubby and kids doing? I never did get ur package u were supposed to send. Thats why I figured u just didnt want to talk anymore. I KNOW u didnt get mine cuz they were FOUND enroute to NY  But nothing ever came of it. I actually have a paper that states it was confiscated, so their no no getting outta that one.
Anyways, if u still wanna talk.....email me or call. u still have my cell phone? |
10-30-2006, 09:54 AM
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Hi All........Lordhelmet.....how long and why are you taking so much morphine.....are you abusing it and are you in serious pain....since you are already wondering if you are addicted, chances are you are....I would seek professional help...suboxone works well..it will take you off your morphine habit....and then you wean off suboxone....you can find lots of into about suboxone...and the doctors who offer that help in your area....
Tammy....great going getting your vike addiction under control...that is a huge step in itself....having your appt on the calendar will make it happen....for me I quit taking my last vike about 8:00p.m. and the next morning I went to the rehab center and just waited until they said I was ready...I think it was after noon the next day....if you can get comfort drugs, they help just ease the creepy crawly waiting feeling...drugs like soma or xanax...best to you
Amy...I think us pill/popping women/mothers have similar stories...probably started out very inocently and then the evilness of the addiction just took over....I tormented for so long about how when to get off the vikes....and soooooo happpy to say I have successfully done it....today total days off vikes is 54 ....and I think more importantly my total days of suboxone is 31...so I am a solid 30 days without OPIATES....and I have to say at about my 3rd week off sub I had a breakthrough....I just felt different/better...like ...wow....I feel normal.......there are days I feel a little dragged down....but doesn't everyone feel that way once in a while (normies)....and there is a tiny tiny voice in there that when I am feeling tired or want to go an extra mile says hey a little pill would help.....and I just try to empty that thought ASAP...because I know its a lie...beside there would be to many steps to get to the pills because I've set it up that way....I'd have to continue to question my intelligence if I tried to get more pills...anyway rambling....best to everyone..... |
10-30-2006, 09:58 AM
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thanks amy,how are you doing w/the sub. and what mg.I got so much possitive info.from this forum then I jumped to a few and you wouldnt believe all the negetive on sub. in some of the other forums,but Im not going to pay any attention to those,tlk w/ ya later,Tammy |
10-30-2006, 10:00 AM
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Amy....how many days have you been on sub...how much are you taking per day...sorry I am not sure you should be thinking about increasing....unless you just started and are trying to adjust your dose.....if you have been on at least a week or more your dose should be pretty right on ....its part of your addictive person possibly saying you should have more...talk to your doc or whoever is helping you with detox.....unless they are in in for the money they should be helping you wean....sorry thats a harsh one...but some docs are actually making money on our weaknesses. |
10-30-2006, 10:04 AM
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thanks morticia,I cant wait for this **** to be over with,so glad you are doing great,tues. is the big day hope ill be able to take my son trick or treating tues. nite. tammy |
10-30-2006, 10:14 AM
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bad rap on suboxone.......in my opinion....and yes I heard the bad stuff before i started my sub treatment......it has been the best thing I ever did to get off my vike addiction.....the bad rap....I believe comes to play if you trade suboxone for your vikes and get addicted to sub....or take weaning off of it to the last degree...it is only a transition drug....from vikes...to sub...to nothing....you will not feel 100% when you are done with sub .....everyone is dfferent.....but I 100% guarantee you it will feel nothing like kicking vikes or running out of vikes for a few days.....I can't explain it....but it just is easier...you feel sluggish...but its certainly doable........ |
10-30-2006, 11:11 AM
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hi abey,
the kids and hubby are great thank you, i;m so glad to hear that your having back surgery, and that you;ll be pain free almost thats the best news ive heard in a while.
does the lortabs work?
i cant believe you didnt get the package after all this time..hard to believe.
anyway.what kind of surgery are you having? are they gonna fix your discs? my pain doc was yalking about me having surgery but i said no, cuz i dont want to go back on painkillers.
drop me an email sometime, did you get my email i sent yesterday? with my new email? best of luck to ya keep me posted. talk to you soon.
luv n hugs Clarkie |
10-30-2006, 11:22 AM
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Amy....how many days have you been on sub...how much are you taking per day...sorry I am not sure you should be thinking about increasing....unless you just started and are trying to adjust your dose.....if you have been on at least a week or more your dose should be pretty right on ....its part of your addictive person possibly saying you should have more...talk to your doc or whoever is helping you with detox.....unless they are in in for the money they should be helping you wean....sorry thats a harsh one...but some docs are actually making money on our weaknesses.
| sparky, tomorrow will be one week on the suboxone. I was having a very tough morning, I always do when I come back from visting my family. I lived there 35 of my 38 years and had to move here for hubby's work so when I come back here the first day back is HARD. ANyway, I took three of my four subs this morning and felt good. I take 2mg 4x's a day. I won't go over that, when you go to the doc you have to take the pills with you to make sure you're not taking too many, he's a very good doc not out for the money, I could go on and on, but it felt good to take that many. I'll take my last one after work and be done. You're right though, I can't start depending on these. The purpose is to be totally clean. I have a meeting tonight at 6:30, so that should help. Just a tough, tough day.
Thanks for asking Sparky!
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