[patmamma]

Hi Everyone,
I just wanted to write in to say its been three weeks and a day for me! No more drugs in this body!

Life feels normal. I just keep going, not thinking at all about the percocets now.

I compete in my first National Mountain Bike race as a clean girl, and the first one of the year this weekend, so wish me luck! I think I will have a strong experience.

Hope you all have a nice fourth of July! Be good.
Patmamma

[mpvt]

Way to go Pat,this is so nice to hear.Your an inspiration and you should be proud of yourself.Going through opiate withdrawls is probably one of the most unpleasant thing you can go through.So don't be afraid to look in the mirror and say "hey,I did it".Good luck in your race and make sure you keep checking in because now you can share your experiences with other people looking for help......Dave

[patmamma]

Thanks Dave
I do appreciate your kind words!
Patmamma

[brett]

hi

i posted before.... now im up to a bigger cocktail, b/c my girlfriend is very obsessessed and controlling and i dont want to feel anthging , and everynite i sweat and ferak out and its the same as last yesr and im scared to get off the pills alone, but last yesr was just perks, trhis year its perks, darvocets and codeine, from the surgey and im scared im taking too many pills like 12-15 different pain pills a day b/c my mom booted me friday and ever since friday and its getting worse now im home and im stressed and sick and the gf is crazy

[brett]

i cant stop im getting sicker and sicker

quote:Originally posted by cluelessNJ

Hey Brett, Hang in there. Is the doctor putting you on something else? Did he just tell you to stop cold turkey? I will keep you in my thoughts.



Not so clueless,

CLEAN DATE 1/23/06

[brett]

i might go a meth clinic on contiue using more and more

quote:Originally posted by mpvt

Hi Brett: You might want to look into suboxone (buprenorphene) at www.suboxone.com there you can read up on what it is and what it does.Your a perfect canadate for suboxone,you can go about your work or whatever while taking this.There is a doctor locator on this site.Get a list of all the prescribing doctors in your area and start phoning for an app.This drug is performing miracles for alot of addicts in the same position as you.Good luck....Dave

[VTX1300]

Brett,

First thing I want you to do is take a deep breath and calm down.....

Things will be ok.

I want you to keep a couple of things in mind--First there are things you can control and things you can't control. That's just how it is.

The girl, parents, situations, etc. You have NO CONTROL over these things. So let this stuff go. This is where having faith in the MAN will help you. Give this stuff up to God. Understand that YOU can not control or change or influence these things, but He can. So let him work his magic.

So, that leaves the only thing that YOU CAN control, and that is you. Your actions, how you respond to situations, to people. That is what you have control over. So take control of yourself. This may take a little time, and often seem impossible.

There is an NA philosophy that says."Take it one day at a time." What this means is that you should not worry about what will be coming tommorrow or worry about what happend yesterday. The only thing you should be concerned about is what is happening right here right now. Sometimes, during recovery, this will become "take it one hour at a time, and then one minute at a time, and maybe even one second at a time." The bottomline is this. Take things as they come, one at a time. Deal with them one at a time, and then let them go and give them up to God.

Recovery CAN be done, and more importantly, YOU CAN DO IT. But you've got to make the right choices to make that happen. And you've already made the first right choice--You're sharing, open and honestly, with us on this forum. That is the first step. Congrads.

I, as well as most everyone on this forum, can empathize with your "out of control" feelings you are expressing. Been there and done that. But by taking it "one day at a time" and sharing open and honestly with people who care, you can continue on your path to recovery. Yes, I say continue because you have already started recovering. You've admitted a problem and have seeked out help.

Keep sharing with us, keep coming back. Read literature about addiction (the NA literature I have on the bottom of this post is very good), consider going to an NA meeting (Great things go on in these meetings everyday).

I want to appologize if this is choppy. I was trying to post and keep caught up at work, but I'm sure you will get what I'm saying. I also wish I was able to get on here earlier when you were talking. But for some reason the Man must not have wanted it then, but does now.

God Bless you, bro. I'll keep you in my prayers, starting right now.

Take a moment with me to say a prayer for the addict who will use tonight, and for the addict who will use for the last time.

BLessings,
X


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VTX1300 ** Clean date 1/3/2006**

WHO'S NEXT????

DON'T USE, NO MATTER WHAT

Say a prayer for the addict who will use tonight, and for the addict who will use for the last time tonight

*NA RECOVERY LITERATURE**

http://www.na.org/ips/eng/index.htm

***HOW TO FIND LOCAL NA MEETINGS****

http://www.na.org/links-toc.htm


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[VTX1300]

Chris, Clueless, Girlie, and all.

Thanks for thinking of me. I've been lurking lately around here.

Haven't really had the spirit moving me to post, until I read Brett's posts tonight. Seems like the board has been very self sustaining as of lately, which is really cool. Lots of addicts helping addicts, it is awesome. I proud and honored to know each and every one of you on the forum.

I'm still clean. (Yeah God and my fellow addicts and friends for this)It's really getting easier day by day. I still have urges to use from time to time, but (as I told Brett earlier) I take each moment and CHOOSE NOT TO USE, NO MATTER WHAT. And it is working.

I'm going to court on July 24th for round 2 of the custody battle for my boys. Seems like I might have a really good chance with this one, but never can tell till the judge pounds the hammer. Say a prayer for me.


Blessings,
X

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VTX1300 ** Clean date 1/3/2006**

WHO'S NEXT????

DON'T USE, NO MATTER WHAT

Say a prayer for the addict who will use tonight, and for the addict who will use for the last time tonight

*NA RECOVERY LITERATURE**

http://www.na.org/ips/eng/index.htm

***HOW TO FIND LOCAL NA MEETINGS****

http://www.na.org/links-toc.htm


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[abey042000]

Brett~

Fill us in. How u doing? Whats going on with you?

[donrubon18]

I started taking vicodin and percoset recreationally about 3 years ago. I used to take a few pills once or twice a week at night just to get high. Now I take them at least four nights a week, usually 6-8 pills per night. I never take them during the day at work or even during the weekend days. I just stopped taking them for a few days and I got really depressed, but I have no other symptoms. Do you think its withdrawal?

[abey042000]

Sounds to me like dependancy. I'm not very good at giving advice beings I cant even control my own habit, but sounds like mental condition. Your mind is so used to getting high and when it doesnt have the opiates, its not sure what to think.

[brett]

i cut back the darvocet on july 4th tahnk all of you for writing a post... today im only on the perks but not as many as july fourth,i had to break it off with my gf, and she is such a stupid woman, first of all im 22 about to be 23 and i had the surgery on june 22 , and all she cares about is herself i tried ending it with her and now let her suffer without me, im gettting off these pills for me and no one else she couildnt care taht i wa spuing all night but im not ghoing to go back to a meth clinic like last year im strong to cut back each day by one pill, cant let emotions get in the way of my clean time

[brett]

thank you for caring so much im crying right now had to pop a pill getiing sick , but was fine all day to i broke up with my gf

quote:Originally posted by abey042000

Brett~

Fill us in. How u doing? Whats going on with you?

[cluelessNJ]

Brett, Hang in there sweetie. If shes not supportive your better off without her. Withdrawl does suck. Get some Immodium AD. It will help alot. Eat healthy and drink ALOT of water. Wash out all the dirty toxins. I wish I had more time to post right now.

I will be thinking of you!

Not so clueless,

CLEAN DATE 1/23/06

[outdrlvr]

brett ~
I've been reading your posts here, and just wish to offer what small support I can through this medium...
Hang in there, don't take the pills for emotional reasons, I've been there and done that, you just end up taking too many until they make you sick and become non-effective.. then you have major withdrawals to get through.
This time will pass, you will heal both emotionally and physically.
There's a lot of support here, with people in all different situations and stages of their lives, it's a wonderful place to hang.
I can already see you have a strong will and determination to change what you're unhappy with, it takes a lot of energy so don't be hard on yourself if you don't live up to your own expectations (I speak from experience here, Im a typical Class A type personality and thus an overachiever... Im my own worst enemy).
Just be gentle on yourself at this time, and do whatever it takes to get you through... no, I don't mean take drugs, Im talking about resting, or getting out for walks, reading, hot baths with epsom salts - anything that makes you feel better.
Oh, and don't rule out natural remedies. Im not clean, but to get back to where I am (ie: on a different pain med and sticking to less than prescribed dose) I went through bad withdrawals for three weeks, and took some natural supplements that really helped.
Eventually you'll find someone or someway to be happy again, you're young, and oh how I hate saying this cos I hated hearing it when I was your age... but it's so true!!!! You have a lifetime ahead of you to enjoy! Enjoy it to the fullest, you'll thank yourself in the end.

[brett]

thank you8 so much i first wa sonluy taking the most 2 perks a day now its uop there but im off the codeine and darvos

tomorrow im callin the detox again for a femail bed i cant do it alone i was sick agian all night and it totally sucks i told my gf to get her prioties str8 and im so determine dto stop the [ills, even though i still have pain from the surgery but im messing my body up

quote:Originally posted by outdrlvr

brett ~
I've been reading your posts here, and just wish to offer what small support I can through this medium...
Hang in there, don't take the pills for emotional reasons, I've been there and done that, you just end up taking too many until they make you sick and become non-effective.. then you have major withdrawals to get through.
This time will pass, you will heal both emotionally and physically.
There's a lot of support here, with people in all different situations and stages of their lives, it's a wonderful place to hang.
I can already see you have a strong will and determination to change what you're unhappy with, it takes a lot of energy so don't be hard on yourself if you don't live up to your own expectations (I speak from experience here, Im a typical Class A type personality and thus an overachiever... Im my own worst enemy).
Just be gentle on yourself at this time, and do whatever it takes to get you through... no, I don't mean take drugs, Im talking about resting, or getting out for walks, reading, hot baths with epsom salts - anything that makes you feel better.
Oh, and don't rule out natural remedies. Im not clean, but to get back to where I am (ie: on a different pain med and sticking to less than prescribed dose) I went through bad withdrawals for three weeks, and took some natural supplements that really helped.
Eventually you'll find someone or someway to be happy again, you're young, and oh how I hate saying this cos I hated hearing it when I was your age... but it's so true!!!! You have a lifetime ahead of you to enjoy! Enjoy it to the fullest, you'll thank yourself in the end.

[brett]

i went 12 hpurs without a pilla nd was shakinga nd sweating but as soon as i took it i was ok but its hard to eat and i been frinking tons of malox i hope i can do it myself

what are you on and howd you gett off?

quote:Originally posted by cluelessNJ

Brett, Hang in there sweetie. If shes not supportive your better off without her. Withdrawl does suck. Get some Immodium AD. It will help alot. Eat healthy and drink ALOT of water. Wash out all the dirty toxins. I wish I had more time to post right now.

I will be thinking of you!

Not so clueless,

CLEAN DATE 1/23/06

[sjake]

Hello All,

I would like to say thank you to all that post here. You have been a major help to me.

I am in percocet withdrawal. I have taken it off and on for more than 10 years (Mainly on). I had gotten my dose down to around 100-120 mg per day a few weeks ago.

Friday I dropped to 25 mg, and as of 23 hours ago I have had no percocet. I'm saving a few to help me sleep, it seems the night is the worst for me. I would like to thank "clueless" for the suggestion of Imodium AD, it has really helped me. I'm not sure how much I could safely take though.

At the moment,7:57 pm I am in a rough way. Sick with leg aches, stomach upset, headache, ringing in years. I have (9) 10 mg pills sitting by my bed starring at me. I really want to stop taking them, be free from their control. It's taken me several years just to realize I have a problem. I do have a ruptured disc that started all this mess.

But, the pain has been my excuse to doctor shop. Pretty easy to get with a MRI. My biggest reason for stopping is I'm about to be a father. Also, I am aware that most states are coming online with prescription data base that all doctors and pharmacy's can access.

The federal government is funding states in hopes of stopping addiction to prescriptions. So if your doctor shopping, beware friend. The last thing I want is to get charged with a felony and still have to go through withdrawal hell. I'm concerned that a lot of good people are going to get in trouble with these new systems.

Anyhow, I will say my prayers for you guys, please do the same for me. I think what scares me most is learning how to live without the high, like how am I going to see my in-laws and not have a crutch? I know you all know what I'm talking about.

Take care and God bless!

[sjake]

Could anyone give me a timeline of what to expect coming off of painkillers?

[cluelessNJ]

quote:Originally posted by sjake

Hello All,

I would like to say thank you to all that post here. You have been a major help to me.

I am in percocet withdrawal. I have taken it off and on for more than 10 years (Mainly on). I had gotten my dose down to around 100-120 mg per day a few weeks ago.

Friday I dropped to 25 mg, and as of 23 hours ago I have had no percocet. I'm saving a few to help me sleep, it seems the night is the worst for me. I would like to thank "clueless" for the suggestion of Imodium AD, it has really helped me. I'm not sure how much I could safely take though.

At the moment,7:57 pm I am in a rough way. Sick with leg aches, stomach upset, headache, ringing in years. I have (9) 10 mg pills sitting by my bed starring at me. I really want to stop taking them, be free from their control. It's taken me several years just to realize I have a problem. I do have a ruptured disc that started all this mess.

But, the pain has been my excuse to doctor shop. Pretty easy to get with a MRI. My biggest reason for stopping is I'm about to be a father. Also, I am aware that most states are coming online with prescription data base that all doctors and pharmacy's can access.

The federal government is funding states in hopes of stopping addiction to prescriptions. So if your doctor shopping, beware friend. The last thing I want is to get charged with a felony and still have to go through withdrawal hell. I'm concerned that a lot of good people are going to get in trouble with these new systems.

Anyhow, I will say my prayers for you guys, please do the same for me. I think what scares me most is learning how to live without the high, like how am I going to see my in-laws and not have a crutch? I know you all know what I'm talking about.

Take care and God bless!

Take the immodium AD as needed. I started with 5. Yes, 5. I would not suggest doing this for a long time though. 5 in the morning and give it time. Like a few hours. It will change your symptoms. I then would take a few more 6-7 hours later. then 2 before bed.

Becareful. You don't want to get backed up so don't do this for a long period of time. Ask me anything. I am always lurking even though I don't post as much. Keep it up! I will be praying for you!



Not so clueless,

CLEAN DATE 1/23/06

[cluelessNJ]

quote:Originally posted by sjake

Could anyone give me a timeline of what to expect coming off of painkillers?

You have to understand that it is different for everyone but her it goes:

First week sucks! Horrible flu like symptoms, hot and cold, alot of anxiety. Head will be very foggy.
Second week gets easier, still feel a little fatigue but its bareable. Some energy will return and the fog begins to lift!
Try to excerise. Even if you just take a walk and get some fresh air. Eat healthy and drink alot of fluids. Alot of fluids!!!!!!!!
Hot baths are highly recommended by me. In the beginning I might find myself in the tub 5 or 6 times and definatly a hot bath before bed. It will help relax you so you can atleast get a few hours.
Sweetie, keep in mind that you didn't get to this point over night so it will not go away in a day! I promise after a week you will feel like a new person. Email me if you would like. Any questions please feel free to ask!

PS...Try to keep yourself distracted alot too. Watch movies, walks, ride a bike...you get the point. Don't sit home and think about the pills. It will break you down. The mind can be an evil thing!

Keep posting and let me know how you are!

Not so clueless,

CLEAN DATE 1/23/06

[cluelessNJ]

quote:Originally posted by brett

i went 12 hpurs without a pilla nd was shakinga nd sweating but as soon as i took it i was ok but its hard to eat and i been frinking tons of malox i hope i can do it myself

what are you on and howd you gett off?

I was taking oxycontin at least 80mg a day but was up to 3 sometimes 4 of them. I weaned down and then just jumped off and went cold turkey! I am proof it can be done!

Not so clueless,

CLEAN DATE 1/23/06

[patmamma]

Hey everyone!
Here I am at 4 weeks out! I cant even believe its true. I still look back at my journey and remember the first week and how I thought I couldnt make it, but I am here to say, you can! I had my first mountain bike race this last weekend since being off the meds....it was the Nationals race and I race in the expert category....I got second place. I guess I am distancing myself from the four years of taking a pill EVERYDAY! I dont really think about the pills anymore, but every now and then I think about that high. The reality is, I never want to have to detox again, and that does get me through. It used to BARELY get me through, but it did.

Take care everyone, I check in every so often to see if I can help.
Patmamma

[girlie girl]

Just wanted to stop by and say hi! I hope everyone is doing good. I have started wean down on my pills. Im on 4 a day..loratab/10. Thats half of what I was doing the last 3 months. I know I have to get down to 3 next. Wish me luck. Goodnight Guys!![:X]

Girlie Girl

[mpvt]

Keep pluggin away at it Girlie.You're goin great.....Dave

[chrish1]

Girlie[:0], YOU can do it! We are pulling for you.

NS Clueless, keep staying clean and carrying the message. The message is hope. It CAN be done.

I am 9 months opiate free tomorrow (7/11) !

Chrish

Clean Date: 10/11/05

Drugs are a big lie. Don't believe the lie.

***HOW TO FIND LOCAL NA MEETINGS****

http://www.na.org/links-toc.htm

[brett]

hey everyone i am done to 4.5 pills now, finally my gf unstands b/c i made her read up about the pills and i slept at her huse last night got a litle sick but im doing much better today, my goal for today is 4 pills then tomorrow 3 i know i can do it =)

[cluelessNJ]

Chrish~~~

CONGRATS ON 9 MONTHS!!








You are such an inspiration to so many! I got a little creative with my design! lol!

Did you get my email?



Not so clueless,

CLEAN DATE 1/23/06

[brett]

i am done to 3 pills again hope to off by saturday wish me luck doing much better i didnt ned to go tro ameth clinic thank god

[brett]

[)]congrats for your clean time

quote:Originally posted by chrish1

Girlie[:0], YOU can do it! We are pulling for you.

NS Clueless, keep staying clean and carrying the message. The message is hope. It CAN be done.

I am 9 months opiate free tomorrow (7/11) !

Chrish

Clean Date: 10/11/05

Drugs are a big lie. Don't believe the lie.

***HOW TO FIND LOCAL NA MEETINGS****

http://www.na.org/links-toc.htm