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02-15-2005, 06:29 PM
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| | RoC1909:
Your post has got to be one of the best, well reasoned posts I have come across. Absolutely superb! I am so thankful that when I came clean with my doctor about me addiction and desire to quit, rather than lecture me or belittle me, he simply was encouraging and supportive and perscribed Catapress #2 Patch. It has been an amazing help.
Maybe I was just lucky with my doctor but I've talked with a lot of others who have had similar experiences with theirs...... that is, being helpful to our condition rather than being judgemental and condescending.
Again..... great post. Thanks for sharing it.
Hunterdog | 
02-16-2005, 11:52 AM
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| | I wrote the below text in a tramadol thread in the "Featured Drugs" area and now see that it is more appropriate for this area in order for me to get the opinions that I'd like to see. Please read on below:
First off, I want to say Ultram/tramadol is definitely addictive. I am in the current process of weaning off of it after 3+ years. Even initially just cutting the dose in half caused bad withdrawals for me. I have a history of multiple spine surgeries and wanted to use tramadol instead of other "pain killers" because it was supposed to be non-addictive. Heh.
Now, let's move on to 3+ years later. I decided I was tired of needing to buy these pills all of the time so that I could function(not catch a "buzz" - but function). I'm now finding out how much pain is still around that the tramadol was able to mask for me. I've also found out that a side effect of the tramadol for me (a good one in my case) was an appetite suppressant. So here comes the tough question. How am I supposed to say that being addicted to tramadol was BAD? With not taking the tramadol at the higher amounts I was, I'm now left with a lot of pain, I'm hardly able to move upright, and I'm gaining weight. While I was taking the higher doses of tramadol, I think I was happier, I was the thinnest I had been since 7th grade (went from size 16-18 to size 8 while taking tramadol), and I was pain-free. On the con side, I guess taking larger amounts of tramadol is likely bad for the liver. It also did cause me to have a hard time falling asleep which necessitated the need for Ambien. I also think tramadol causes short term memory loss.
So, bottom line is, how am I supposed to say that being addicted to tramadol was bad when I felt so much better being pain-free and thin? I know I can't be the only one who feels like this. I know "addiction" is supposed to be bad, but if I'm able to function because of it, I just don't understand the problem with long term medication use. Many of the doctors I've talked to or saw (including a pain specialist) all talked of tapering off of any pain medication, so it was obvious that pain control through use of long term (indefinite) tramadol wasn't even a consideration. Any opinions out there? | 
02-18-2005, 12:24 PM
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| | Hi Imgrey, If you are taking the pills for pain and taking them as prescribed you shouldnt have to go off of them. Especially if you are even losing weight. When you go to other drugs because of them or start buying them on the street is when it becomes a problem. My husband will have to take cholesterol medicine for the rest of his life and I am sure he is addicted to that but nobody looks down on that. i on the other hand dont really have pain (i dont think) and I do buy pills plus my script. You seem to be pretty together. Dont be too hard on yourself. If they are not causing problem in your life or health, I wouldnt put myself through the horror of withdrawl. Good luck, hope my words helped a little.
Bobbie | 
02-19-2005, 06:43 PM
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| | [quote] Originally posted by norcalmom
Is anyone interested in starting a support group for moms addicted to painkillers? It appears we are becoming a popular group. My drug of choice is Vicoprofen, which I take depending on when I'm not driving. I literally plan my pill taking on when I need to drive my kids to school or sports or friends, etc. Very stupid. However, they are very magical, powerful little beings these pills. They are legal, odorless, don't make you sick, and are readily available.
Like many of you, I do not have the luxury of being able to spend a month in a Malibu rehab center getting therapy, methadone and massages. I need to be a mom and a wife. There is no time for down time. No time for withdrawals. No tolerance for mood swings. And crying children certainly don't help those mood swings. Children need their mom to be there physically and mentally.
I plan on going to Narcotics Anonymous on Tuesday while my kids are at school. As far as withdrawals go, well, we'll just have to see. I need to get off this stuff, now. I guess I can use Flexeril for muscle cramps and Immodium for my stomach.
I think most importantly we need to support each other.
Good luck all.
My magic pill is Darvocet. I am interested in a group. Please let me know if you start one.
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02-19-2005, 09:18 PM
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| | Hi,
I am also interested in this group. I'm a 35 year old Mom to 4 young kids. I'm addicted to hydro and any other painkiller I can get my hands on. I'm presently on suboxone and it is working pretty well. I still have cravings, but am functioning very well. It's been about 10 days.
Gretchen | 
02-19-2005, 10:26 PM
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| | I said this before, I would love to be part of this group. I am a 38yr old mother of 2. I am addicted to percs, hydro,vicodin, whatever. My story is the same as yours. Very interested in the suboxone.
Bobbie | 
02-19-2005, 11:13 PM
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| | The suboxone really is working. I didn't have terrible physical w/d. I had been taking very sporadically lately (like 5 days on and 2 days off etc.). My tolerance has risen so greatly in the last 2 months I was up to 30 norco a day and couldn't keep up with the supply. When I took my 1st suboxone it wasn't quite as dramatic as others describe if they were in acute w/d, but I definitely felt better. I am still tweeking my dose. I have been taking abou 6 mg a day and that seems to be right.
Let me know if you need any more info. How old are your kids? Mine are 10, 6, 4, and 18 months. I do feel much better on suboxone. I was so sick of feeling ill all the time (and having minor w/d every few days).
Gretchen | 
02-20-2005, 01:23 AM
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| | Hi! everyone sorry have wrote, but hunterdog made me feel bad about myself, first I want to stop, second is everyone being honest out here to themselfs and to others, cause I buy my pains meds off the streets, or should I say people I know, I almost died about 6 years ago because A Dr. did a dnc on me but when he did it he cut my intenseds I don't know if I spelled that right, but anyways he was giving 50 percets a day no lie, I hate him, and I also tryed to sue him, but I think the lawyer was getting pay off or something, I end- up with 28 staples in my stomach with this big scare, am scared more then life it self, I have losed like 50 lbs in may less then a year or even lessed then 5 months, I can't pee unless I push it out, I feel like I have to go but when I do I have to push it out, my hair is falling out really bad, yea am being honest cause I want the help. two of the doctors on the list are doing that med anymore, one place said I had to go in patient can't do that I work, and I don't live off the system with my kids, another place don't take mass health that is okay am willing to pay cash it to me is worth it, 200 first vistit then I forget after that but am number 13 on his list,I read alot of the post and some of you just know what words to make someone feel good. I say every day god why did I do this to myself, I was the first to talk about anyone that did this, downing them, I swear to god I will never down another soul in my life again, just god help me, before I end up dead, one day I took 30 of the 5 mgs I took them from my husband, I lied and told him it wasn't me but it was, he knows in his heart, why he stays with me, I don't know why I would have left, sometimes I say to myself maybe I should leave and the kids and let them have a better life, he is hook too, but I don't know how bad cause he hides it, but he wants to help he don't know how.anybody has any idea where else I can turn to for help,am willing to do anything except inpatient I can't do it that way. I will lose my job, I love my job. I will be honest I have been doing them for about 4 years only and the last 2 gotton the worst. Thank you everyone just sharing your stories out here cause I know am not alone in this battle, but Iam only trying to clean it, and I don't blame no one but myself cause it is my own fault I did this all by myself.am sorry if some of my spelling is off, or that am running my mouth to much. I just want to be honest, cause I know alot of people out here are buying the pills from people they know or friends of friends. am there too.
Susan37 Mother of 10 and Two grandchildren and one of them live with me. | 
02-20-2005, 01:35 AM
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| | Well girls lets start a support group. Anyone interested e-mail me at PaulnAnt @aol.com. I will do whatever I can to help. I know I need someone who understans & will not judge me, I will do the same for you.[:I] | 
02-20-2005, 11:31 AM
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| | Well I am on my fourth day of quitting oxycodone,and I feel great. I may be different than alot of people, but I stopped cold turkey and alot of it was mental. I felt like I had the flu for the first 3 days, and I just laid in the bed and pretended I did have the flu, and here on the 4rth day, the only thing I have is Restless Leg Syndrome. Hey i'm telling you once you get to this fourth day you will feel like a brand new person. I was on oxycodone for 3 yrs and I work and a weigh station where I weigh trucks and truck drivers would sale me bottles of them, and I just got highly addicted and then i started having respitory pain and other different pains when i took them and i knew that for my health I had to stop. I never for 3 yrs told anyone i was taking them until i was finished i told my GF and she was mad at 1st but was proud of me for quitting. See you maybe thinking well he has only been off of them for 4 days so he may get back on them, but you have to set your mid set like i have mine and thats like you'll never do them again. Know that you will never do them again. Yes you will get hot flashes and fevers and everything else but this is flu season so i told everyone i had the flu and made myself beleive that. There were times I though one pill would make all this hurting go away, but i would just take an ibuprofen and go on without my pills, I flushed them all on the 2nd day and well you just gotta have it in your mind that "You will not take another one" and if you have strong will power and maybe some support (which I didn't) you will make it. If i can do it, you can too. If nothing works and you just can't quit go to the doctor. Thats your only other option to quit, and the shaking isn't that bad.
If you belive in you heart you can, than you shall succeed | 
02-20-2005, 02:36 PM
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| | Hey Jester, way to go dude.Quiting narcotics is a very difficult thing to do.You should start feeling better everyday now but be careful after a couple of weeks clean that you don't let yourself talk yourself into taking a pill thinking you can handle it.It happens alot but if your aware of it then you can prepair yourself for it.Good luck and hang in there........Dave | 
02-20-2005, 06:03 PM
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| | Hey-
I wrote a few post earlier in this topic, and at that time was quitting pills. Now I'm here again, quitting again, after another ultram induced seizure Friday nite...I have to quit this or I'll end up killing myself or my family. I'm just sitting here chewing my nails and crying, and I really feel guilty and horrible. Thought maybe writing this out would help me...funny how my fingers don't seem to function right. | 
02-20-2005, 06:59 PM
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| | I would love to join. I am not a mom but I do live at home taking care of my 5 year old brother, so you can say I am a surrogate. I would love to chat and get feedback, I am addicted to painkiller - pill of choice is vicodin, but with no job and no insurance they are hard to get. That is a good thing. I would love to join your group, just let me know. Is there a chat function that we can chat somewhere? Hope everyone is doing well.
J | 
02-21-2005, 06:31 AM
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| | Just wanted to say hi to everyone and no I have not even tryed to cut myself back, but today is monday I don't have to be back at work until Friday so am going to try and cut myself down or even try to go three days with nothing, am just so scared of my mood swings and flu like feeling. susan
Susan37 Mother of 10 and Two grandchildren and one of them live with me. | 
02-22-2005, 02:07 PM
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| | I too am goiing through a tough time with pain killer addiction, its the worst. I can't sleep, eat, go out, and in alot of pain. I have been denying I needed help until now. I kept it secret for 3yrs., I'm now only 21. If I can handel it I have deep faith others can. A "cold turkey" approach is usually not the best thing for someone like me, the methadone treatment I must recieve is a "tapering" of med. and I know I can not EVER step back. Tell your friend that she's not alone, there are so many of us like her. If she can't stand the withdraw find help. It takes some time to get into treatment so look now or it may become worse. God bless.
---Day | 
02-22-2005, 04:02 PM
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| | I have had a problem with hydros for over a year now and was taking at least 20 7.5 and 10s per day. But let me tell all people with this problem, You CAN get off these cold turkey because i am on day 4 now and the withdrawls are almost gone.I had cold sweats and was very irratable the first 2 days along with no desire for food but make yourself eat it is very important.It is very up and down times also dont hold back the crying because it helps too.And really all im dealing with now is a little weakness and some irratabilty .I have had alot of people praying for me and that has helped the most i think.The most important thing is to tell your family about this even if you think it will be the most embarrising thing. Because your life is more important than what poeple will think of you. And in the end you will find that the people that matter the most will still love you like you never had the problem.If you try cold turkey you WILL need loved ones with you 24/7 the first 3-5 days to talk to and be at your every need.So i will say you can do this if i can if you really in your heart want to quit.I feel you and wiil be praying for you all. | 
02-22-2005, 09:40 PM
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| | Quote:
quote:Originally posted by CheySapphire
Just wanted to say hi to everyone and no I have not even tryed to cut myself back, but today is monday I don't have to be back at work until Friday so am going to try and cut myself down or even try to go three days with nothing, am just so scared of my mood swings and flu like feeling. susan
Susan37 Mother of 10 and Two grandchildren and one of them live with me.
| Hi, I just wanted to say good luck and for my info on some ways to make kicking the habit easier I posted on Oxycontin addiction (pg 2) a regimen some physicians use or recommend to their patients. Have you thought of going to a GP (general practioner) or family doctor to at least get a physical (liver enzymes-to check liver function) and then request their help in getting clean? Be honest with them about why a rehab would not be an option due to work and the concern with losing your job.(read that in your earlier post). Do you have a physician you would feel comfortable approaching? Even an OB/GYN. Well good luck to you and others.
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SouthernBelle
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02-23-2005, 06:50 PM
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| | hi, i have been reading the posts here and this seems like a really great place for support. iam a 6-8 pill a day hydrocodone addict. i have an appointment with a social worker on friday. iam currently on day 1 without the pills. however i also use xanax for anxiety, i take 1 to 3 of these a day. iam really scared of what is going to happen on friday. i worry that whoever i see will want to take me off the xanax as well as the hydro, the xanax is really the only thing getting me through the anxiety right now. however i have to take more than the 0.5 mg at a time that im prescribed, i have told my doc that my system has grown a tolerance to the presription but he doesnt prescribe any more. please pray for me, i need it. | 
02-24-2005, 07:41 AM
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| | I would think thay would encourage you to take a benzo (xanax) while your detoxing.I don't think you have much to worry about.If they do threaten to take you off them then tell them to forget it and you'll just start taking the narcotics again.They have to work with you,it's a 2 way street.Good luck and let us know how you made out.....Dave | 
02-25-2005, 06:13 PM
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| | Wow! Hi all, I'm new here but am grateful I found this message board! This is awesome! I read through everyone's posts and wanted to comment on a couple of things and put in my 2 cents worth.
First off I want to introduce myself and tell you a little about my situation. My name is Stace and I'm a recovering addict. As of today I now have 109 days clean! I started using pain medication when I had foot surgery and a doctor that didn't care and would refill my pain meds anytime I wanted. They gave me a false sense of self worth, made me feel good and act happy.......and off I went toward 10 years of self destruction! At the end of my using period, which was November 8, 2004, I was going to the methadone clinic every single morning and getting dosed. However prior to the methadone clinic I had built up such a tolerance for Norco 10/325's, Lorcet, Oxycontin & Percocet......basically anything pain medication wise, that I was taking 50 or more of those suckers per DAY! So basically I was taking 50 hydrocodone 10's a day! If not more...
I want to address the first message on this board about Ultram. Ultram IS NOT like Ibuprofen in any way shape or form. It doesn't have anti-inflamatory properties for one. Ultram, even though it is not classified a narcotic YET, is VERY HIGHLY ADDICTIVE! I know this because I used it regularly before I got hooked on hydrocodones. And when I ran out of hydros I replaced them with Ultram. It gives you the same "feel good" feeling as hydros. No, you don't get a euphoric high off of it, but psychologically you do. Mentally you feel great and of course it works for pain. There is tons of info on the net about it, and if you read up on it, it works basically the same as narcotics, only it's not classified as one. However in the rehab facility I was in 90 days ago or more, the nurses and doctors stop giving it to people because it's very habit forming. So beware of the Ultram!
The second thing I wanted to comment on is the use of methadone for people coming off of opiates (pain meds). PLEASE GOD DON'T LET THEM DO IT! That's the best I can say. When you get off of pain meds and onto methadone, the best way to describe it is getting rid of a monster (pain pills) and picking up a DEMON! (methadone) That is the absolute worst thing in the universe to do to yourself. Methadone has it's place. It's a good taper program for people addicted to heroin and those who inject themselves w/pain meds through needles. I personally never did that. However I was so unbelievably scared to go through withdrawels, I thought methadone was right for me so I wouldn't feel it. Methadone is some nasty stuff let me tell you! I learned in the rehab hospital where I detoxed from methadone, that it's the absolute worst withdrawel there is. I was detoxing for 8 days, instead of a normal 3 or 4 from pain meds. They also told me that what makes methadone so bad is that it's the ONLY pain med out there that has such a small molecular make up that it builds up in your muscles and bones. That's why it lasts so long in your system.....24/48 hours. Bad thing is that it's not like being on pain meds. After only 2 days of using it, my bones and muscles ached so bad that it felt like I was falling apart. It hurt to stand, sit, walk etc. I moved around like an 80 year old and I'm only 35!!! When you're on methadone, other pain meds don't work because the methadone blocks all other opiates. So they think that keeps you clean. WRONG! Methadone causes such horrible fatigue it's not funny! I couldn't work in an office anymore because if I sat still for more than 3 min. I fell asleep! You wouldn't believe the burn holes I accumulated on my furniture, carpet and blankets from the methadone knods! I literally knodded off while standing and cooking my son dinner! I almost burnt the house down a million times! I came to one time with my whole face down in my bowl of cereal! I could go on and on! And that's all really bad, but imagine trying to drive like that! It's almost impossible! So because of the fatigue, I was introduced to methamphetamine and cocaine, and I wanted to do them because I was trapped at this point. I was too far gone on methadone and didn't want to go through those withdrawels because I thought I might die, and I had to keep a job to pay the bills, so those other nasty street drugs worked to help keep me awake. Those are things I would NEVER EVER think about doing ever! And my life very quickly spiraled into hell shortly after I started using the other drugs. And only to stay awake. You do one thing and it leads to another and it's a horrible viscious cycle. I entered a rehab facility ONLY because my family saw what I had become and were extremely scared for me and of me. I was told I had probably less than 2 weeks alive before my body would just give out from too much. I didn't go into rehab willingly and was so unbelievably scared to detox from that methadone. And honestly I've NEVER been so sick in my entire life. That was the most horrible thing I've ever experienced. And only by the grace of God did I make it through that. I'm not perfect, and one day I may relapse, although I hope and pray that I don't, but one thing I WILL NEVER do again is Methadone! I try and tell anyone and everyone to steer clear of that! Now about suboxone. As I told you I now have 109 days today. However on my 106th day my cravings were still extremely bad. At the rehab center they have a doc that we continue to see on an outpatient basis. She told me that they were going to start prescribing a medication that's wayyyyy easier and better tolerated than that of methadone and withdrawels from it are almost nil. And from what I've read about it, withdrawels from it are only feeling tired. No leg aches or diarhea or anything else like pain medicine. I started taking suboxone on Tuesday. It's like a miracle drug. Now don't get me wrong, I was doing fine without any medication at all. My only problem was that my cravings.....from coming off of the methadone, were so much more horrible than coming off of pain pills. And the only way I could deal with the cravings and not use was to sleep basically 24/7, which if you think about it, really isn't living at all. So this suboxone has put me back on track. Now there is a catch. It is a narcotic. However it's not a normal narcotic in which withdrawels are nil. And it contains a blocker called naloxone which keeps us users from being able to get high off of opiates. So what it's done for me is given me unreal energy, and a happy feeling. Supposedly you lose weight like crazy on it because you don't have much of an appetite, which I can vouge for. It's made me feel human again. It gives you a chance to put your life back in order, and when you're ready to start tapering, they say it's easy as hell. Of course the way to go is cold turkey like I did in the beginning. But we have to have a life after drugs, and I just wasn't havin much of one. So this helped me. But I'm not advertising it. I'm just saying for those of you that need assisted recovery, this is soooooo much better than methadone.....and I know, cuz I was on the meth. Wow I'm tired of typin now so I'm gonna close for now. I hope maybe I've helped some of you with the same problem I've had. Good luck to all of you in your journey and God Bless!
Your new friend,
Stace | 
02-25-2005, 10:35 PM
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| | I am so happy for you.....what a story. I am presently on suboxone as well. I started 2 weeks ago and had a 30+ norco habit the months before my treatment. I am doing well and having little to no cravings. I am on two other support boards though and have learned alot about the drug. I have found from those that have been on suboxone that the drug is highly addictive. The vast majority say the w/d last much longer than the pain pills and can be equally terrible. I don't want to burst your bubble, I just want to give you the info I learned. I am scared to stay on sub for maintenance, and still have not made a decision. I've been tapering and staying on very low levels (which I read is really important). Dr.'s are putting pt. on very high doses which is really not necessary (depending on the patient). I think that suboxone is a wonderful tool for recovery, but I do want everyone to be aware that it's highly addictive (no matter what the Dr.'s say, b/c it's the patients that know for sure). I'd be happy to share the other sites w/you. I'm not sure if I can post them here, but you can write me at gretchens4@yahoo.com. I think we have a lot in common. Take care and congratulations on such a huge accomplishment. Gretchen | 
02-26-2005, 12:12 AM
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| | Stace, Thank you so much for your story. I am looking into suboxone treatment right now. I cant believe you took up to 50 pills a day and you are ok. That makes me feel so much better. I take quite a few pills a day myself. I have to tell my friend about the methadone. Her son is on it and she said all it did was replace the heroin/pain pills. He still doesnt work, no ambition, mood swings, ets. But they are supporting the treatment because it is supposedly "helping". They are selling methadone pills on the street just like they sell percocets. I am really excited about the suboxone though. I havent heard any negative things about it yet. Well, I just wanted to thank you for sharing your story, it was truly inspiring. Hope to talk to you again soon.
Bobbie | 
02-26-2005, 12:23 AM
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| | Hey Gretchen, I know I 'm a little late replying but in the last 4 days i have been in hell and if I didnt have the pills I don't think I could have pulled it off. I have 2 children , my daughter is 19 and my son is 3. Figure that one out. Yes I am crazy and yes they both have the same father. Although with 4 kids at the ages of yours, i am no one to complain. Well my daughter fell and broke her foot in two places, (drinking at a friends during a snow storm) and my son had a 102+ fever for four days of which he did nothing but cough and cry for me ONLY. I was up for 3 nights because I had to sleep with him and I was running back and forth taking care of my immobile daughter, my crying son and my sister asked me to watch her 8 month old whis is into everything. The best part of it was (or the worst) I did it with ease, and cooked dinner every night and did laundry til 2am. HOW??? Pills and lots of them. That is what scares me about getting off of them. My family is going to have to really chip in when this occurs. They are so used to me being Wonder woman. They are all so spoiled, they will go through withdrawl themselves. Well , it is really nice to have people to talk to about this stuff. I cant say that enough.
Bobbie | 
02-26-2005, 12:39 PM
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| | Hello,
Wow......the pills never affected me that way......Well, maybe once in awhile. Most of the time I had no motivation and just wanted to lie down and "chill". I always felt more confident having them though, so I know what you mean. I couldn't have done any of that without them. That is some age spread....lol! I thought my 4 in 8 years was a long one. I know it must have been hard to "start over again", but I'm sure it's a blessing. Glad to hear from you and I hope things settle down. I am still on suboxone (over 2 weeks now with no other pills). I'm amazed how it works. You just feel normal, but no need for pills.......very weird!
Talk to you soon. Gretchen | 
02-26-2005, 10:26 PM
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| | I read these forums and it amazes me now how many doctors across the united states will prescribe oxycontin to people, and how easily they will do it.
Not only have several people said that they have been prescribed strong doses of OC, but other strong narcotics like norcos and percosets as well. What is going on with doctors these days, is it a guessing game or something? There must be a better way to do this. I just had to add that - if anyone has some good HOMEOPATHIC solutions to back and neck pain advice would probably be appreciated by EVERYONE here because thats why you started pain killers in the first place, right? | 
02-27-2005, 04:55 AM
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| | hi all of you!my name is brittany and im 26 yrs old.im addicted 2 percs and have been 4 about a year.it started with darvocets then went to percs.now i live and think of only the pills and when and where i will get them.its crazy but thats how i live each day,thinking of the pills.i want so badly to get off but when i try to i give in to the withdrawls and just pop a pill.i get 120 of the 10/650 a month from a pain clinic but they only last about a week.thats bad i know,and im scared to death that im destroying my liver.i never imagined that i would ever be addicted to anything in my life as i never as much as drank caffeine and now look where im at!!!demon pills are what they are,life destroyers!im so gratefull though that i found this board and hope people will give me some in put.i can relate to all these stories,its like reading about myself!honestly...my damn life revolves around the dang pills no matter how much i try to block my addiction out.im scared to tell my doc 4 im scared he will make me stop cold turkey and i would never make it!i barely survive 3 hrs w/o the pills let alone a day.i do have clonapin 4 anxiaty but never take them unless i dont have the percs but they donot help with the withdrawls at all.i get really restless when im off them and severely depressed.i even started going doc shopping lately but i guess its hard to get percs from other docs.i only wish that my first doc would have said no,but he always gave me more and more untill 9 months later he said he could lose his licence so he sent me to a pain clinic,where i've been going 4 4 months now.does anyone know how long they continue 2 prescribe pain pills?and what do they do when u tell them your abusing them?im so dam ashamed to say anything,for he hasnt a clue!im a very good actress!not very funny.anyway im scared of getting caught going 2 different pharmacys for that would just be way 2 embarressing for me and i've never had a record,not to mention people would be shocked to know my secrut life!i dont act different on them really,accept i act very happy.not wired though.please give me some advise people i really need it before its 2 late.i have 3 beutifull children and i want to be with them to see them graduate college.well god bless all and good luck with all your addictions!!britt
my name is brit and i've been addicted 2 percs as i guess u all call them 4 about a year and a half now,and feel as though im only able 2 funtion on them.reading these stories are like reading about myself!i can relate to all of them in almost every way.im so glad im not alone and so gratefull that i found this message board.it started out on darvocets 4 a back injury then my pain got worse so the doc introdused me 2 the worse habit of my life,4 now i feel i cant funtion w/o them.i want my life back but feel i cant be happy unless im on the pills.each time i stop taking them,i give in to the withdrawls and pop pills again.im so happy and feel i can do anything while on them but its getting to the point where i really dont get the high anymore.maybe thats good i think cause then i think maybe i can get off them easier but then i just increase my dose.i get 120 of the 10/650 a month but those only last about a month,pretty dam bad,huh?im only 26 and dont wanna die.im scared of what im doing to my liver as well.im to ashamed to admit my prob 2 the doc cause at the same time i wanna stay on them.im also scared of dealing with life w/o the good feelings they bring me.what should i do?im scared that if i do tell the doctor that he will make me go cold turkey!i go 2 a pain managment clinic now,but have went doctor shopping in the past couple of months and when they find out im scared they will not wanna help me at all.im so confused its crazy.i know 1 thing and that is that i wish i never started these demon pills and that when i do finally get off i wont even as much as take an asprin!!!please somebody give me some input before i give up and go 2 far.thanks and god bless all of u and good luck 2 u who find the courage 2 quit and succeed. brittany | 
02-28-2005, 12:05 PM
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quote:Originally posted by jazmin
hi all of you!my name is brittany and im 26 yrs old.im addicted 2 percs and have been 4 about a year.it started with darvocets then went to percs.now i live and think of only the pills and when and where i will get them.its crazy but thats how i live each day,thinking of the pills.i want so badly to get off but when i try to i give in to the withdrawls and just pop a pill.i get 120 of the 10/650 a month from a pain clinic but they only last about a week.thats bad i know,and im scared to death that im destroying my liver.i never imagined that i would ever be addicted to anything in my life as i never as much as drank caffeine and now look where im at!!!demon pills are what they are,life destroyers!im so gratefull though that i found this board and hope people will give me some in put.i can relate to all these stories,its like reading about myself!honestly...my damn life revolves around the dang pills no matter how much i try to block my addiction out.im scared to tell my doc 4 im scared he will make me stop cold turkey and i would never make it!i barely survive 3 hrs w/o the pills let alone a day.i do have clonapin 4 anxiaty but never take them unless i dont have the percs but they donot help with the withdrawls at all.i get really restless when im off them and severely depressed.i even started going doc shopping lately but i guess its hard to get percs from other docs.i only wish that my first doc would have said no,but he always gave me more and more untill 9 months later he said he could lose his licence so he sent me to a pain clinic,where i've been going 4 4 months now.does anyone know how long they continue 2 prescribe pain pills?and what do they do when u tell them your abusing them?im so dam ashamed to say anything,for he hasnt a clue!im a very good actress!not very funny.anyway im scared of getting caught going 2 different pharmacys for that would just be way 2 embarressing for me and i've never had a record,not to mention people would be shocked to know my secrut life!i dont act different on them really,accept i act very happy.not wired though.please give me some advise people i really need it before its 2 late.i have 3 beutifull children and i want to be with them to see them graduate college.well god bless all and good luck with all your addictions!!britt
my name is brit and i've been addicted 2 percs as i guess u all call them 4 about a year and a half now,and feel as though im only able 2 funtion on them.reading these stories are like reading about myself!i can relate to all of them in almost every way.im so glad im not alone and so gratefull that i found this message board.it started out on darvocets 4 a back injury then my pain got worse so the doc introdused me 2 the worse habit of my life,4 now i feel i cant funtion w/o them.i want my life back but feel i cant be happy unless im on the pills.each time i stop taking them,i give in to the withdrawls and pop pills again.im so happy and feel i can do anything while on them but its getting to the point where i really dont get the high anymore.maybe thats good i think cause then i think maybe i can get off them easier but then i just increase my dose.i get 120 of the 10/650 a month but those only last about a month,pretty dam bad,huh?im only 26 and dont wanna die.im scared of what im doing to my liver as well.im to ashamed to admit my prob 2 the doc cause at the same time i wanna stay on them.im also scared of dealing with life w/o the good feelings they bring me.what should i do?im scared that if i do tell the doctor that he will make me go cold turkey!i go 2 a pain managment clinic now,but have went doctor shopping in the past couple of months and when they find out im scared they will not wanna help me at all.im so confused its crazy.i know 1 thing and that is that i wish i never started these demon pills and that when i do finally get off i wont even as much as take an asprin!!!please somebody give me some input before i give up and go 2 far.thanks and god bless all of u and good luck 2 u who find the courage 2 quit and succeed. brittany
| my name is brit and i've been addicted 2 percs as i guess u all call them 4 about a year and a half now,and feel as though im only able 2 funtion on them.reading these stories are like reading about myself!i can relate to all of them in almost every way.im so glad im not alone and so gratefull that i found this message board.it started out on darvocets 4 a back injury then my pain got worse so the doc introdused me 2 the worse habit of my life,4 now i feel i cant funtion w/o them.i want my life back but feel i cant be happy unless im on the pills.each time i stop taking them,i give in to the withdrawls and pop pills again.im so happy and feel i can do anything while on them but its getting to the point where i really dont get the high anymore.maybe thats good i think cause then i think maybe i can get off them easier but then i just increase my dose.i get 120 of the 10/650 a month but those only last about a month,pretty dam bad,huh?im only 26 and dont wanna die.im scared of what im doing to my liver as well.im to ashamed to admit my prob 2 the doc cause at the same time i wanna stay on them.im also scared of dealing with life w/o the good feelings they bring me.what should i do?im scared that if i do tell the doctor that he will make me go cold turkey!i go 2 a pain managment clinic now,but have went doctor shopping in the past couple of months and when they find out im scared they will not wanna help me at all.im so confused its crazy.i know 1 thing and that is that i wish i never started these demon pills and that when i do finally get off i wont even as much as take an asprin!!!please somebody give me some input before i give up and go 2 far.thanks and god bless all of u and good luck 2 u who find the courage 2 quit and succeed. brittany | 
02-28-2005, 12:17 PM
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| | well here i am again and today i feel alittle depressed because i called clinics in my area searching for info on the med subadone or whatever it is exactly called,my first step in getting off the percocet.what they told me only confirmed my own thoughts on what would happen if i did this...they said they would stop me cold turkey and just councel me off it!!!and they said that percocet isnt addicting enough to be put on any kind of meds,which is utterly ridiculas to me,for any addiction is bad enough within itsself,i think...i told them thanks alot for nothing and that i mise as well continue with the addiction.theres no way i will go through the w/d w/o anything at all,for i did that before and nearly had a nervous b/d...whats wrong with these people?just because its not herion,then i guess i can survive the w/d?bull!!!!!!!!to me its just as bad.what do u think?everyone on here seems to be able to get the meds and they are on perks?!!!!is it my state?im in iowa,so maybe thats why.according to them,percocet isnt a bad enough addiction to need anything.whatever.thats why im addicted so badly,huh?if it wasnt very addictinh then id be able to get off easy i would think.ok,well im gonna go for now,please someone give me some advise!anyone.thank-you brittany
my name is brit and i've been addicted 2 percs as i guess u all call them 4 about a year and a half now,and feel as though im only able 2 funtion on them.reading these stories are like reading about myself!i can relate to all of them in almost every way.im so glad im not alone and so gratefull that i found this message board.it started out on darvocets 4 a back injury then my pain got worse so the doc introdused me 2 the worse habit of my life,4 now i feel i cant funtion w/o them.i want my life back but feel i cant be happy unless im on the pills.each time i stop taking them,i give in to the withdrawls and pop pills again.im so happy and feel i can do anything while on them but its getting to the point where i really dont get the high anymore.maybe thats good i think cause then i think maybe i can get off them easier but then i just increase my dose.i get 120 of the 10/650 a month but those only last about a month,pretty dam bad,huh?im only 26 and dont wanna die.im scared of what im doing to my liver as well.im to ashamed to admit my prob 2 the doc cause at the same time i wanna stay on them.im also scared of dealing with life w/o the good feelings they bring me.what should i do?im scared that if i do tell the doctor that he will make me go cold turkey!i go 2 a pain managment clinic now,but have went doctor shopping in the past couple of months and when they find out im scared they will not wanna help me at all.im so confused its crazy.i know 1 thing and that is that i wish i never started these demon pills and that when i do finally get off i wont even as much as take an asprin!!!please somebody give me some input before i give up and go 2 far.thanks and god bless all of u and good luck 2 u who find the courage 2 quit and succeed. brittany | 
02-28-2005, 02:01 PM
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quote:Originally posted by justtobe
Sittting here going through the post it's good to know i'm not alone, i sit here and wonder what to do i have been on lortab 7.5 for 2 years taking 6 or 7 a day, i am on them for various chronic back problems, i always said i wouldn't ever get in this situation as my mother is and has been for 35 years. Don't get me wrong i do have bad pain but i take them when i don't just to feel good and get through the day and can't make it through one day without them. I want help but i guess it's like quitting smoking i'm afraid to be without them cause i've depended on them for so lone, maybe not as long as some people though. I tried to talk to my husband this morning about it and he's Mr.do no wrong so all he done was chew me out and critize me. Where i work at it's like drug planet everyone is on something so it's hard being around it and not do it. I know i have to come off of these but i'm really scared if that makes any sense, does anyone have any advise.
| my name is brit and i've been addicted 2 percs as i guess u all call them 4 about a year and a half now,and feel as though im only able 2 funtion on them.reading these stories are like reading about myself!i can relate to all of them in almost every way.im so glad im not alone and so gratefull that i found this message board.it started out on darvocets 4 a back injury then my pain got worse so the doc introdused me 2 the worse habit of my life,4 now i feel i cant funtion w/o them.i want my life back but feel i cant be happy unless im on the pills.each time i stop taking them,i give in to the withdrawls and pop pills again.im so happy and feel i can do anything while on them but its getting to the point where i really dont get the high anymore.maybe thats good i think cause then i think maybe i can get off them easier but then i just increase my dose.i get 120 of the 10/650 a month but those only last about a month,pretty dam bad,huh?im only 26 and dont wanna die.im scared of what im doing to my liver as well.im to ashamed to admit my prob 2 the doc cause at the same time i wanna stay on them.im also scared of dealing with life w/o the good feelings they bring me.what should i do?im scared that if i do tell the doctor that he will make me go cold turkey!i go 2 a pain managment clinic now,but have went doctor shopping in the past couple of months and when they find out im scared they will not wanna help me at all.im so confused its crazy.i know 1 thing and that is that i wish i never started these demon pills and that when i do finally get off i wont even as much as take an asprin!!!please somebody give me some input before i give up and go 2 far.thanks and god bless all of u and good luck 2 u who find the courage 2 quit and succeed. brittany | 
02-28-2005, 05:45 PM
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| | Want to introduce myself. I am a father of two and been married 22 years. I am 46 and been without cartlidge in the right knee 33 years. I started having some back pain along with knee pain a few years ago. I found that when I took hydrocodine It made me feel great not to mention got rid of pain. The most hydro I have taken is 3 a day. I would get a prescription and take the 50 tabs in a month or so. When I stopped took a day or so to feel normal from some mild side effects.
Well, I must admit, if it were easier to get I could have found myself taking a bunch of pills.
I had a DR. prescribe tramadol a month ago. I found it took away the pain and I couldnt believe something non narcotic could work so well. I take only two a day which is a total of 100mgs. and I can do stuff around the house without getting too grouchy. Now I am hearing that it can be addictive... I called several pharmacys and they said I could take two a day forever and no problems....health wise. I wish that were true because it would change my life. Is two a day tramadol no big deal..?? What do you think. Any input is appreciated.
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