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03-19-2006, 03:46 PM
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| | NotSoCLueless, yeah that is pretty common for us addicts to find new things for a rush (spending, ***, sex, eating, caffine...etc). I have been spending more than I usually do, but that's okay as long as I don't go beyond my means. I saved and saved for 10 years, and now I am just (finally) enjoying some of the fruits of my labor. I don't think there is anything wrong with it as long as we don't get too out of hand. I always like to keep a couple years of savings in case something ever happened with my job - if I decided I was burnt out on it and had to quit, or whatever.
Dixiegirl, that is cool that you got clean. No matter how we do it, the important thing is that we do it. But, that is only the first step. Then we need to get a support system in place with other addicts and get educated on our addiction. I'm not totally against Suboxone. In certain cases it can be good, but the chance of remaining clean on Suboxone alone (without any education/ help / support) is close to zero after 2 years. So, I'm glad you are seeking help and support in conjunction. I'm glad you are seeing alcohol as a danger also. We addicts need to watch out for that also. I have heard dozens of people say that even though they never had a problem with alcohol, they slowly became abusers after quitting painkillers. It starts out with a drink and gradually increases. Many times alcoholism creeps up just like the painkiller addiction. OR, I've heard many say that it led them back into painkillers or other addictions. This isn't something that I'm just making a theory on - this is something that I have seen happen to many many addicts.
GinaFL2, good luck with your new journey. It's great to have you on board.
Chrish
Clean Date: 10/11/05
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03-20-2006, 12:17 AM
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| | Chrish~ Feel ya! Glad all is well! I know haw bad it sucks to go back to work after a fun vacation.
Dixie, Stick to your plan! We can help you! Did you set up a tapering plan with your doctor. I hear that the faster you get off suboxone the easier it is! I wish you the best of luck! Keep coming back and let us know how you are!
Gina~~Nice of you to stop in. Glad you are doing GREAT! It is a very wonderful feeling to know you are clean and no longer dependant. Not always easy but we do it.....One day, then another day.....before you know it months have pasted! I'm very proud of you! More proof it CAN be done!
Have to get to bed! I have a very early morning! Love Ya all![:X]
Miss everyone that hasn't checked in...Barry, Girlie Nicole and everyone else! Thinking about you guys!!!!!!!!!!
Not so clueless,
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03-20-2006, 12:47 PM
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| | Yesterday evening was rough, I had to use a lot of valium just to get to bed and I still woke up in the middle of the night shaking. I think I will take a walk outside today to try and get those endorphines going. I hate the valium, it makes me so tired. I was going to call my doctor today to see if I can get like a weeks worth of Ambien so I can quit the benzo's. Any advice at this point would help. I'm on day three, do you guys think I'm out of the woods? | 
03-20-2006, 01:41 PM
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| | Hang in there Gina your probably going to feel your worst now and for another day or two and then you will start to feel better.Have you got any immodium ad it's really good for the stomach.Also lots of water and Advil gel caps.You've only got a couple shetty days left then your on your way to feeling alot better so hang in there.You can do this......Dave | 
03-20-2006, 02:16 PM
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| | Gina,
Not out of the woods. Still have a clear path though  ! Sleep still drives me crazy. Some days i'm fine other days I need a sleep aide. It will pass! Stay strong! Check in and let me know how you are!!!!!!!! 3 days is Great! Keep going!
Not so clueless,
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03-20-2006, 03:05 PM
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quote:Originally posted by ginafl2
Yesterday evening was rough, I had to use a lot of valium just to get to bed and I still woke up in the middle of the night shaking. I think I will take a walk outside today to try and get those endorphines going. I hate the valium, it makes me so tired. I was going to call my doctor today to see if I can get like a weeks worth of Ambien so I can quit the benzo's. Any advice at this point would help. I'm on day three, do you guys think I'm out of the woods?
| Hi,I know it's hard,but do you think you can go without taking any sleep meds?It won't last long[I know i been there...many times]and you don't want to get your body hooked on something else.You will sleep soon,I Promise!!![|)]When you can't sleep get up out of bed and try to find something to occupy your time.
Getting off drugs[many x's] is by far the worse and hardest thing I have ever been through.One day when I have ALOT of time I want to tell you guy's my story.Have wanted to do it already,but I came seem to rehash it...It's alot and I lost alot and it's hard to tell the story.[B)]
Debbie
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03-20-2006, 03:11 PM
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| | I'm feeling O.K. right now, I just feel so scatterbrained. My stomach is fine, in fact I want to eat everthing in sight. I am definatelly going to get some excersize today. I feel like I have no focus, like I am ADD. My housekeeper is here with me so having a clean house is totally helping. Both my doctors know not to prescribe me more than a couple weeks worth of sleep aids or benzos. I took Ambien about 5 years ago when I had a bout of insomnia and it helped me get on a great sleeping schedual, I only needed it for like three days. As for the withdrawls it's mostly mental now. I have no more physical problems at all. By the way my husband and I flushed all the opiets last night | 
03-20-2006, 03:26 PM
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quote:By the way my husband and I flushed all the opiets last night
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Good job.....Sounds like you are on the right track,keep it going that way  !!
Debbie
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03-20-2006, 04:42 PM
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quote:By the way my husband and I flushed all the opiets last night
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Good job.....Sounds like you are on the right track,keep it going that way !!
Debbie
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03-20-2006, 04:51 PM
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quote:Originally posted by dizzy23 Quote: |
quote:By the way my husband and I flushed all the opiets last night
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Good job.....Sounds like you are on the right track,keep it going that way !!
Debbie
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| well, i guess everyone can tell that this is my first post and haven't gotten the true hang of it yet. i have been clean from lortab for 2 days and think i can make it. i am going to an na meeting later this week. any tips on helping with the jimmy leggs ex at nite and getting some energy back. guess it just takes time. thanks | 
03-20-2006, 05:22 PM
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quote:Originally posted by dizzy23 Quote: |
quote:By the way my husband and I flushed all the opiets last night
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Good job.....Sounds like you are on the right track,keep it going that way !!
Debbie
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| well, i guess everyone can tell that this is my first post and haven't gotten the true hang of it yet. i have been clean from lortab for 2 days and think i can make it. i am going to an na meeting later this week. any tips on helping with the jimmy leggs ex at nite and getting some energy back. guess it just takes time. thanks
| any one out their in the world. talk to me. | 
03-20-2006, 08:53 PM
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| | waragle
Hoe ya doin? 2 days, you are so brave. Stick with it. It will get easier. Try to take alot of warm/hot baths. It helped me SOOOOO much! Get a multi vitamin. Try to kepp your self distracted. Take walks outside. I know its the last thing you want to do but you have to get your body working on its own again without opiates. Please post and let me know if you have any other questions.
Not so clueless,
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03-20-2006, 10:09 PM
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| | Gina, for me the first week or so was tough. I didn't use a sleep aid, and my sleeping was interrupted every couple hours, and I was having weird dreams, but I couldn't really remember them. My heart rate was over 100 for the first week or so, and I had a lot of anxiety. If you can make it though the first week or so, it should get easier. Others have found relief quicker, so you may be one who feels better after a few days; who knows.... Just hang in there and know that it does get better. My life now is so much better than my best day using painkillers.
WarEagle, way to go! I have had great experiences with NA, while others have not had that same experience, so it really depends on the individual. It is for some and not for others. I can tell you that one of the best things I have acquired from NA is education on addiction. Education on addiction is key. You can't go into a war with an enemy you don't know anything about. There are other sources for education on addiction, but I have found NA to be supreme in that area AND there are no membership fees or dues. So, give it a try and see if it is for you or not.
Not So Clueless, I just got back from the doctor. I have a really bad sore throat and cough. It turns out it is just really bad allergies. His pen was on the way down and he said "I am going to write you a script for some pain medicine," when I blurted out "don't write me anything addictive." I must admit, it was tempting, but another battle has been won!  That's right ladies and gentlemen - I just popped (3) 200mg motrins, and if those don't do the trick, I'll pop some over the counter Tylenol. Wow, what a 180 degrees turn.  I had to share....
Have yourself a clean day tomorrow.
Chrish
Clean Date: 10/11/05
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03-20-2006, 11:56 PM
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| | Going on 72 hours and I feel fine. All symptoms are gone, I'm even pretty happy believe it or not. I did wean down to 10 mg a day before going off, and I pretty much sedated myself with valium the first day but I even managed to go see a movie(Faliure to Launch) it was cute. Yesterday I walked around the mall for a few hours. I ran a lot of errends today. Tomorrow I will start excersizing again. I need to lose a few pounds. I only had to take .5mg of xanax today to help me relax tonight. I am going to try to sleep tonight with no sleep aid but I do have Ambien if I need it. I can't believe I was so terrified over nothing. The hardest part is going to be learning to live life without opiets. I had been taking them for 4 years. Wow, I feel so free. In three months my husband and I are going to try for a child. It's going to be so great to have dinner parties with friends and not be thinking about how everyone else can have fun sober. I am truely blessed. God has finally taken my addiction away. | 
03-21-2006, 08:09 AM
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| | hi all im still here gina hang in there it does get better. i dont use the pc to much if at all during the weekend it is family time but i did get the flu friday and have been running a temp since then so i havent been up to using the pc at work either so im still here and doing well but the flu is kicking my butt i dident even go to church sunday but my wife did and she took notes and she sais she now gets it the pastor seemed to be talking right to her so that was very good so everyone keep up the good work and ill be checking post allday today | 
03-21-2006, 09:07 AM
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| | Hi all,
I am just reporting in.... I am STILL tapering off Lexapro - it's been a couple of months going from 10mg to 0. I'd say the pills that I cut are now about 2mgs. Though it's taking a long time - I think it's worth it because I feel good. I'm also taking Weil's Omega 3 supplements. I can't wait to be off of Lexapro completely!!! | 
03-21-2006, 09:09 AM
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| | Oops replied to Painkillers instead of Lexapro!! | 
03-21-2006, 01:22 PM
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| | Look how many people are getting clean! How great is that! Keep in mind the withdrawl WILL pass. Everyday gets easier. Keep it up!!!!!!!!!
Chrish~ Thats is AWESOME! Huge! Pat yourself on the back! Thats what I needed to hear today! I have been sick for days and I know this sounds crazy but I like know how my body is feeling. I know I have a sinus infection. On pills you can block out almost everything. Great job!
On my way to the doctor right now! Dr's must love this time of year.[}  ]  [}  ]
One more day guys! YOU CAN do it!
Not so clueless,
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03-21-2006, 05:05 PM
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| | Day 4 for me and feeling great. mentally I feel weird like I'm obsessing overr nothing. I took a nice long walk today and had lunch with my mom. It is really hard for me to live in the moment, I just don't feel peacefull. I have all of this weird evergy. I am trying to keep myself busy, cleaning house, grocery shopping, cooking. I start my new full time job on Monday so I know that will keep my mind on other things. I have been to NA and AA and think they are both wonderful for some, I choose my religion instead. I lean on my higher power every minute of every day. Sometimes I pop into an AA meeting and share but I hate listening to everone elses sob stories, it always seems like most people there are so down and out and depressing. I'd rather be with other couples from my religion who don't judge. I know a lot of religious people feel the need to judge but I've got a pretty good circle of friends(none who use, well that I know of anyway) to lean on for support. Not to mention the best husband a girl could ask for. Thanks for everyones support I will keep popping in from time to time to give thanks | 
03-21-2006, 05:20 PM
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waragle
Hoe ya doin? 2 days, you are so brave. Stick with it. It will get easier. Try to take alot of warm/hot baths. It helped me SOOOOO much! Get a multi vitamin. Try to kepp your self distracted. Take walks outside. I know its the last thing you want to do but you have to get your body working on its own again without opiates. Please post and let me know if you have any other questions.
Not so clueless,
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|    thannks to you and others that have replied back to me. in still not knowing what i am doing with the rules and workings of this board i starteda new topic without really knowing it so please forgive. thanks again and lets keep chatting. | 
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03-21-2006, 07:36 PM
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| | Not So Clueless, going in the doctors office in a situation where getting painkillers was tough. I knew it was going to be tough, so I went in with a plan. I had my response ready in my head. Doctors are pretty quick to give cough medicine with codeine or tylenol with codeine sometimes, and we need to be vigilant. I was ready, and I was pretty proud of myself after that. My addict thinking even rationalized it in my head about how I really needed something with codeine for pain or for my cough. What a crock of **** we tell ourselves - what lies. Any time an addict turns away from using is a huge victory. I hope you feel better with your sinus infection.
Gina, Tinkers, Wareagle, everyboday... hang in there. Victory is at hand.
Chrish
Clean Date: 10/11/05
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03-21-2006, 11:35 PM
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| | Chrish~~and all others reading...................
I know, Untill we get to the point where we can say "no" its like lookin at everyone like they are the enemy. Even my best friend would offer me perks.. It saddens me to this day.......... I hate feeling like I always have my guard up but, in a battle you do always have it up!!!!! I look to you for inspiration and I always get it........ I hope that keeps you going because it does me...I hope just one person (if not more) find inspiration in our posts. All I want is for others to not live the lie........To face it head on.. It can be done and CAN be won!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope to give you all strength and courage to fight the fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not so clueless,
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03-22-2006, 09:08 AM
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| | hi all
im still here woke up last nite with 102 fever not good it was 102.9 when i went to work i hope i get better soon sounds like a bad flu is going around and i had a flu shot dont make sense well ill try to ready board today when i can i think the w/ds are all gone | 
03-22-2006, 01:14 PM
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| | Tinks, I've heard of W/D's lasting from 3days to 4weeks and thats just the physical stuff. Mine lasted about 60 hours but I was on a very low dose, My doctor's, husband and God weaned me down from 100mg of oxy to just 10mg a day, it took 7 months. I was using for around four years. I wish you could find an addiction doctor and do what I did, I hate for you to be going through this. I will say a prayer for you. | 
03-22-2006, 02:06 PM
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quote:Originally posted by tinkers
hi all
im still here woke up last nite with 102 fever not good it was 102.9 when i went to work i hope i get better soon sounds like a bad flu is going around and i had a flu shot dont make sense well ill try to ready board today when i can i think the w/ds are all gone
| The flu will pass!!!! It is going around!!!!! How is your wife???? Is she on board and feeling better now?
Not so clueless,
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03-22-2006, 02:08 PM
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quote:Originally posted by ginafl2
Tinks, I've heard of W/D's lasting from 3days to 4weeks and thats just the physical stuff. Mine lasted about 60 hours but I was on a very low dose, My doctor's, husband and God weaned me down from 100mg of oxy to just 10mg a day, it took 7 months. I was using for around four years. I wish you could find an addiction doctor and do what I did, I hate for you to be going through this. I will say a prayer for you.
| Gina,
Can you get the same Doctor?That would be wonderful!!!And you did great for being addicted soooo long.It is hard!!!I have been there but I did it cold turkey[not easy] but I did it!!!Worse days of my life so far.Good luck and I will be thinking of you[I think and pray for you all].
Debbie
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03-22-2006, 03:48 PM
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| | Hi - Hope everybody is doing well. I went to the doctor again today since I still feel really sick, and my doctor said I may have a touch of bronchitis. So, they put me on antibiotics. Then, I couldn't believe it - they tried to give me a script for cough syrup with hydrocodone. This is my family doctor who knows that I am an addict, and his Nurse Prac. offered it to me. I can't believe my doctor didn't even tag my folder. Anyway, that is the 2nd time in the last few days that a doctor tried to give me a narcotic painkiller. What tests! [}  ] I'll have 6 months clean next month, and I'm amazed that the addiction is so cunning.
Gina, keep relying on your higher power, and educate yourself on addiction as much as possible. Don't use no matter what. At some point in the first couple months clean, it becomes a very good idea (in our head) to use again. It may seem like that is impossible right now, but it always happens. I haven't met one clean addict who wasn't majorly tested in the first couple months. You are doing great. Stay clean!
Not So Clueless, how are you feeling? What did your Doctor give you?
Everybody else - hang in there and win the battle ONE DAY AT A TIME.
Chrish
Clean Date: 10/11/05
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03-22-2006, 04:00 PM
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| | gina
it is the flu its going through my house i think i just got the worst of it also i did go cold turkey and had very mild w/ds and clueless yes my wife is on board now she whent to church on sunday without me and she said it seemed like the pastor was talking right at her so things are pretty good or as good as they can be right now i just feel like **** also gina i did try na and i also dident like it and i went the god way and changed friends and now people in church dont judge you like they do in na remember you are weak and he is strong and you can do all things through christ you just have to give up the drivers seat at let him take the wheel and he wont steer you wrong you just have to have faith we all have to understand that we arent in control some of us might think we are but if we did have true control we wouldent be were we are | 
03-22-2006, 04:14 PM
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| | Chrish, Still can't breath. It sucks! My doctor (the same doctor I came out and told I had a problem) wrote me a script for cough syrup with hydrocodone. So funny! I knew he didn't tab my folder I asked him to see me as a general checkup when I originally went. He has been my family doctor for 25 years...... Crazy thing is.. I was going to leave with this script......I was out the door... My boyfriend asked me what I was given and I couldn't lie! He made me go back in and give it back!!!!!!!!!! At the time I wasn't even thinking. Even when he said hydrocodone it didn't click like it usually does. My guard was not up! Wake up call for me!
I hope everyone is o.k. Sending you guys all my positive vibes today    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not so clueless,
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