[tskat]

Hi everyoneit upsets me the meds that docs give out and not check up on!!!My fiance is addicted to oxycodone-he had to have back surgery 5 years ago and they put 2 rods and metal plate in his back which resulted in lifetime pain-the surgery saved his mobility he couldn't walk before that but the meds are killing the rest of his body. I am trying to help him get off the pills-he is now on his 6th day of withdrawl and still in alot of body pain and depressed. How can i help him through this and when does the withdrawl stop?????? will his body ever stop begging for this med?? the mind we can deal with but with the body hurting it is soooooo hard to stay away from the med. signed hopeless but keeping faith[^]

[nomoremeds]

Hi I just went to the doctor 3 days ago for darvocet dependency. I asked him about the suboxone treatment and he advised that he would like to try something else first. So for 2 weeks to start I am on Darvon, xanax, tylenol and clonidine. I will start to taper off the darvon next week and then i go back to see him. So far i have had ZERO withdrawl symptoms so hopefully within a few weeks I will be off this junk totally. If this method fails then we try the suboxone but so far I think the outlook is good.

[allvolgirl]

good luck on the combo from your dr, nomoremeds. i know you didn't get a lot of replies on your earlier posts, but i was keeping up with you to see how things went. my boyfriend is in a rehabilitation center right now trying to come off the oc's. we had read about suboxone, and i was curious to see how it was going to work for you. good luck on kicking your addiction keep posting about your progress!
allvolgirl

[norcalmom]

Is anyone interested in starting a support group for moms addicted to painkillers? It appears we are becoming a popular group. My drug of choice is Vicoprofen, which I take depending on when I'm not driving. I literally plan my pill taking on when I need to drive my kids to school or sports or friends, etc. Very stupid. However, they are very magical, powerful little beings these pills. They are legal, odorless, don't make you sick, and are readily available.

Like many of you, I do not have the luxury of being able to spend a month in a Malibu rehab center getting therapy, methadone and massages. I need to be a mom and a wife. There is no time for down time. No time for withdrawals. No tolerance for mood swings. And crying children certainly don't help those mood swings. Children need their mom to be there physically and mentally.

I plan on going to Narcotics Anonymous on Tuesday while my kids are at school. As far as withdrawals go, well, we'll just have to see. I need to get off this stuff, now. I guess I can use Flexeril for muscle cramps and Immodium for my stomach.

I think most importantly we need to support each other.

Good luck all.

[nomoremeds]

i have had zero withdrawl symptom with what the doctor prescribed. you should at least go talk with a doctor its not as bad as you think.

[oldself]

I am a married 30 yr old man and we just recently had a beautiful boy.I started taking p.k's 5yrs ago when i had back surgery.I dabbled a little bit prior to this but not everyday. I loved to smoke pot.Then i was prescribed xanax for anxiety.Then came the lorcets.I really loved to partake in this cocktail.I did not like the effects of alchohol and thought that this was the answer. i would take 1mg xanax,1-2 10/650s, smoke some and i was ready to go. clean the house, yardwk ,whatever, it was great. I know this is long but bear w/ me. So now it is an everyday thing. What started out as wknds only has consumed my life.I was taking 2-4 p.k's(my dr. was giving me 120 per mth) 2-3 mgs of xanax(90per mth) and smoking weed. Now i would get rid of alot of the pills but i was still taking to take, for the high.I have realized over the past year or so that i have to stop. I am no longer motivated to go to work, be there for my wife and child or just do everyday things.I cannot control my mind,feel like i would be better off dead at times or divorced for their sake. I am currently weaning myself off these vices.My wife is a saint to put up w/me and is willing to help. So we all have to hang in there,it has to get better. Like many have said it brings you down.Not a matter of if just when.Thanks for reading and any thoughts or ideas are surely appreciated.

[mpvt]

Hi Oldself:

Good for you,kicking double addiction is no easy feat but it can be done.I would takle one at a time though.Kick the narcotic first but when you get to kicking the benzo's be careful and due a slow taper.Narcotic withdrawl won't kill you but stopping benzo's can, so be careful.Remember if you don't make it first try then try again.There is also help out there too.Good luck....Dave

[becky2]

quote:Originally posted by norcalmom

Is anyone interested in starting a support group for moms addicted to painkillers? It appears we are becoming a popular group. My drug of choice is Vicoprofen, which I take depending on when I'm not driving. I literally plan my pill taking on when I need to drive my kids to school or sports or friends, etc. Very stupid. However, they are very magical, powerful little beings these pills. They are legal, odorless, don't make you sick, and are readily available.

Like many of you, I do not have the luxury of being able to spend a month in a Malibu rehab center getting therapy, methadone and massages. I need to be a mom and a wife. There is no time for down time. No time for withdrawals. No tolerance for mood swings. And crying children certainly don't help those mood swings. Children need their mom to be there physically and mentally.

I plan on going to Narcotics Anonymous on Tuesday while my kids are at school. As far as withdrawals go, well, we'll just have to see. I need to get off this stuff, now. I guess I can use Flexeril for muscle cramps and Immodium for my stomach.

I think most importantly we need to support each other.

Good luck all.

[becky2]

Hi Northcal mom )...yes,let's get one started!you are right,it is a huge problem with moms at home...who would think?since I have confided in a couple of people I have found out that MANY people have been in our situation.I am curious how N.A. goes for you,I think that is a great first step!

[mommamia]

hi.. JUST FOUND THIS Website today ....i know that it HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE YOU WROTE IN BUT I too am going thru the same thing! I had back surgery twice since August 2004. I feel like I need to take this med (hydrocodone) due to the great pain i have, but I also feel that I want to get off of them. I feel like I am stuck btw. a rock and a hard place. I won't to stop but I know that the average over the counter drugs would not work, so what do u do???[V] I have always been one that has had control of my life but now I feel as if the meds have control of me!!!! I feel so afraid!! I start physical therapy this week and i hope that will help! but will i ever be able to walk away from this beast when i no longer need them ????????????

[norcalmom]

I'll keep you posted on the support board Becky. And I'll let you know how it goes at N.A. Tuesday is my day, wish me luck and prayers.

[becky2]

Good luck Northcalmom!!!!!!!!!!I am sending you ALL of my positive energy AND prayers.I am proud of you for taking this first step.You are brave and strong and you can do it!!!I have spent all day on the phone w/ dr.s trying to make a suboxone appt.I will let you know waht happens,I want to get started by the end of the week.I can't believe a stupid little pill can control me like this (.my hubby is so supportive but has NO idea how big of a deal this is. I hope you have some support down there!!!I am here if you want to talk )!!!Kind regards,RebeccA

[nomoremeds]

Believe it or not i am on week two and zero withdrawls. his combination of meds are working great and no suboxone. I have no desire for the pills anymore, it feels great. he said suboxone is usually used to get off of hardcore drugs and things like that but can be used if necessary for pain meds

[TrueLove]

Just wanted to say thanks to all who posted on this subject.

After 2 years of using Darvocet for Chronic Pain (Fibromyalgia) and my doctor telling me all along it is not addictive, I reduced the amount of pills per day and after 1 week, completely stopped taking them. I would have preferred a more gradual stop; however, I was starting to have problems consistent with elevated liver enzymes although I do not drink or take any other meds- so I was scared.

Anyway, I did not consult my doctor on this - just figured that with lots of liquids, including freshly juiced organic carrots - great for the liver - I could do this on my own.

The first 4 days were absolute hell! I almost couldnt take the shaking, hot and cold flashes, tingly and numb and burning extremeties and those restless legs! I cried and shook and basically hated life for 4 days - but also couldnt tell anyone what was wrong. Today is my 5th day - I went to work today and did ok. I had a doctors appointment because I was scared that my liver had given up but now that I have read the withdrawl symptoms you all have listed - I know that is exactly what I am experiencing. I wont be going back to that doctor.

Thank you so much for the peace of mind!

[sfc420]

no more meds - are you off your xanax yet? this drug can be very habit forming... whats the dosage ur taking currently?
Xanax dependency crept up on me like a thief. Suddenly none of it was working and I needed pill after pill to keep me feeling alright. Its no joke

[becky2]

Norcalmom!!!!How did it go today?I hope it was a positive experience for you.I have scheduled a suboxone appt. for monday and tons of support,as well as going to na tomorrow (hopefully!)let me know how you are when you get a minute,I have been thinking about you today ).

[PharmRX]

I have been reading all the messages regarding his/her addiction to ultram. First, I would like to say that ultram is NON-NARCOTIC, and is a non-addictive drug. It is not in the opiate family that vicodin and oxycontin belong to; it is not even a scheduled drug...
Therefore, my reasoning behind this message is to say that youshould be honest and not put the blame on this pill,which resembles that of IBprofin.
Everyones addiction starts with hydrocodone; blame that instead!!!

[Diehlsbabe]

hi,i have been on hydrocodone for 2 years now for my back and i want to get off of them so bad but i am scared because of the withdrawal sympoms toespecially from what i hear from other people.I only take 4 a day but that leads to five a day ect.Then i run out and buy more then i feel guilty and really bad when i do that.I heard of methadone but they say that is worse.

ronette smith

[myemmalee]

i have an addiction to mainly percocet but if i cant have that i will take vicodine, or darvocet. i am also pregnant. i have been fighting my self every since i found out that i was pregnant. i am sheduled to have my c-section on 02/14/05 and i feel like i am fighting a battle that has all ready been lost. i am so scared of the outcome. i feel as if i have failed as a mother. i feel like if i could not stop for the life of my unborn child that i will never be able to stop.i dont take them everyday or even every week. but as soonas i get them in my hand its like i cant control putting it in my mouth and swolling it down and then i feel so guilty that i literally make my self sick. i have been tring to find some sort of information on taking painkillers while pregnant but i can never seem to find out what i'm looking for . so if anyone knows of a sight please email it to me please. if anyone has been through what i'm going through please reply back soon b-cuz i feel so alone and i'm so worried about what will be i am worried that i will never get a chance to meet the little girl that lives in me and that i love so so much

[becky2]

Hi Norcalmom!I ahve been thinking about you and hoping all is well )..How did your meeting go?I am going for suboxone on Moday )...nervous about w/drawls tomorrow,but excited to take care of this :O).

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[oldself]

Thanks for the advice mpvt. I have talked w/ and am getting started on a treatment program. We shall see. I hope all is well w/ you.Take care and f the pills.jr...

quote:Originally posted by mpvt

Hi Oldself:

Good for you,kicking double addiction is no easy feat but it can be done.I would takle one at a time though.Kick the narcotic first but when you get to kicking the benzo's be careful and due a slow taper.Narcotic withdrawl won't kill you but stopping benzo's can, so be careful.Remember if you don't make it first try then try again.There is also help out there too.Good luck....Dave

[cwl]

Ditto...I really want to stop using oxycontin....I use it for pain but don't know if i even have pain anymore...its been so long. i want to go into a inpatient clinic or can it be done at home?...if so then how? i'm new to forums so any help on my entries or questions would be appreciated. Thanks!

[mpvt]

I wouldn't suggest trying cold turkey.Can you get in touch with your Dr.Your going to have to tell him/her the truth about your addiction but in my opinion and experience a medically assisted withdrawl is the way to go.There is also methadone if you want to take some time to wheen off and also there is suboxone.Let us know how you make out.Hang in there your not alone in this journey.....Dave

[RoC1909]

quote:Originally posted by nomoremeds

i have had zero withdrawl symptom with what the doctor prescribed. you should at least go talk with a doctor its not as bad as you think.

Hmm. Well, One of the reasons you are not experiencing withdrawls is because you are STILL ON narcotics. That's what the Darvon is.

I am going in to a pain specialist on Monday (1/31/05) to see what he can do about my neck pain. Two years ago I was involved in a car accident and the Doc started me on Vicodin. I then moved up to 20-30 Norcos (10/325) a day. I can pop these things like candy and still function like it's nothing. My body has gotten a HUGE tolerance to this stuff and I am finally ready to get off of it.

I went in to the Doctors earlier this week and explained everything to him. He has me on Ativan for Anxiety, Lonox for diarreha, Hydroxyzine as a histamine blocker and Clonidine for the withdrawls. I tried the Ativan last night but it ended up making me "feel quite weird". I spoke to the doctor today and that is when he gave me the Clonidine. I also spoke to the pharmacist concerning my "issue" and he said that this group of drugs should keep all symptoms quite manageable. The Clonidine is what should help do the trick with the withdrawls and hopefully it does since the Ativan made me want to "climb the walls" One of the major factors in prescribing Clonidine to a person is that Clonidine is used in the treatment of high blood pressure. By decreasing the amount of certain chemicals in your blood, the veins and arteries will relax which will allow your heart to beat more slowly. This may make a person dizzy when standing from a laying or sitting position as well as other factors that may be involved with prescribing this drug for THIS type of medical issue OR for it's original use.

I have heard of Suboxone and there is a website that has been established for people who have questions about it (www.suboxone.com) BUT, I have also heard that ONLY certain doctors can prescribe it (one's who have gone through addiction medicine training) so you may be referred to another doctor if this is the route you want to take.

I am attempting the "non-suboxone method) first and if it doesn't work, I am fairly sure that other options will be available to me.

Good luck with kicking this habit and hopefully everyone who starts succeeds with this demon.

J

[gettinolder]

hello everyone
i found this website by accident and believe me im so glad i did and i think i might have found it for a reason by fate. i am 40 years old and a adult entertainer. i am very popular and have been on the circut for a long time. i am married 2 years and my husband drives me crazy which makes the whole matter even worse for me i think. i have been addicted to painkillers for about 20 years off and on. lately like the past 5 years or so have been the worse where i have taken everything from percocet/ darvocet / vicodin / loritabs and oxycontin (this one being the worse of them all)

i cannot live a day without these painkillers and cannot get out of bed in the morning without them nor can i sleep at night without them in my system. my husband is full aware of my habit and hates it with a passion that we fight constantly about the drugs and other things as well. he is constantly throwing in my face that i ama drug addict. and till just recently i refused to believe that i was ...just that. now im not taking as many as i use to but the addiction is still pretty bad. i go through about 6-10 a day.

my husband monitors my habit and only gives them to me as i need them during the day though i have always managed to find where he hides them and take some and hide them. just once i would love to wake up in the morning and think what a beautiful day it is and how im going to enjoy my day drug free. i fund that i need the drug when im dealing with my fans as a feature dancer in different clubs all over the country. i hate dealing with people that are rude / drunk and pervertly stupid and the drugs help me to ignore them and be in my own world for a while. i tend to take more of the drug when my husband makes my life so difficult that i cant stand him at times and the painkillers actually ease my temper and i tolerate him better.

does this make sense???? im very sad and very depressed with myself and my doctor recently placed me on paxil cr in the hopes that i can get out of the depression. im afraid of gaining weight though and with my job i cant afford the weight gain. im very scared and really need to change my life or i feel that my body wont heold up any more.
i use to love doing things like going to movies and the beach and now without the drugs i can do nothing...im pissed off and depressed and miserable. when im on the drugs i feel i can do anything but my happiness is all drug induced and fake. i am from south florida and wonder where the methadone clinics are around here as i think that might be a better alternative for me to be able to ween myself gradually without totally going drug free cold turkey which i know i cannot do and i admit that freely.
im looking for some new friends and support from those who have kicked this habit or those who are honestly trying to do the same and might be in the same boat as myself. please help someone. im more scared than i have ever been in my life and when i met my husband again after not seeing him for a few years i was on the drugs at that time and thought he was the greatest thing in the world. now im wondering if i hadnt been on the drugs would i have even wanted to date him or even marry him??? i care alot for him but hes definetly not the same person anymore and if i have to be drugged up to deal with him day to day whats going to happen when im finally clean and i cant stand him??? i i dont even feel like im in love with him but do love him for everything he has done for me and been there to support me in everything i have ever done since we have known each other. he has been married once before and she abbused him bad mentally and physically. but i think what they say is true with him where the abuse-ee has become the abuse-er.he does not hit me or beat me up in any way but he does say ****ed up things to me often and constantly uses the fact that im a drug addict against me everyday of my life. he has no idea how to have a relationship let alone have a good marraige and know what to do when your in one.........sigh im so lost in my life and have no friends really. i feel more alone than ever. if anyone has any suggestions or can just talk with me please i would very much appreciate it, because i dont know what to do nor how to do it. i thank god for letting me find this website and know he did it for a reason.

sincere thanks
summer

thanks a bunch

Summer

[mpvt]

Hi Summer: Your story reads just like mine and I can tell you will all sinserity(sp) that methadone treatment will change your life.The reason you feel lousy all the time is because your body has stopped making endorphins.The narcotics you take fill up the receptors (mu) in your brain and therefore you feel normal.When you don't have any narcotics your brain can't get the endorphins it needs to feel good, thus you feel ****ty, mad ect.Methadone is a synthetic opiate and works the same as morphine heroin ect.The methadone molecule is quite large and fills your mu receptors and others (I can't remember their names right now)because the molecules is so large it lasts a long time, 24-36 hours once your stabilized.I would love to see you try this, I can just feel how much better you would feel.You'll never have to worry about finding pills,you won't be broke all the time and you won't have to deal with the people (you know what I mean).You really should try it,you will wake up feeling great and you will find that your husband probably isn't that bad of a guy.If you go on it could you let me know because your story almost mirrors mine.I was actively addicted for 22 years, I took meperidine (demerol)for the first 10 years (I was taking 500mgs every 3 hours by the time I switched over to other narcotics)For the next 12 years I took oxycontin to ms contin(morphine).I was up to 3000mgs of morphine a day by the time I went to methadone.I got the euphoric high for the first 5 or 6 years after that I turned into a nasty sob,I didn't move off the couch unless it was to go out and get more pills.I hated everyone and everything.Each time I took my handful of pills I would hope that it would make me feel better only to come the realization that it wasn't going to happen.When I started methadone I still used pills to make up for the small dose of methadone but once I reached 250mgs/day the cravings stop, I couldn't believe it, I felt so good and my head was clear.I finally settled at 400mgs/day and I've been great for the last 3 years.That's way I'm hoping you will give it a try.Just remember that you have to reach a dose were you stop craving all together and believe me it willhappen.So, good luck to you and keep us informed on how you are doing......Dave

[tuckerbutt]

Hi all-

I'm new to this forum, but I've got the same problem. I've been taking Vicodin for at least the last 5 years. My partner has had some very serious health conditions - two total hip replacements, 4 rotater cuff surgeries and well, the drugs were there. My entire family, including myself, are all addicts by nature. My mom and two brothers are alcoholics and I've chosen the path of pain killers. I manage to convince my doctors that I need them, but I abuse them. I'm just trying to set a new path for myself and I thought I could get some support and help from people who know how difficult this is.

I don't get high, but without them, I find life very difficult to deal with.

I'd appreciate any insights you may have.

[gettinolder]

well that was my problem ....i had an addicted mom who never in a million years would she have even tolerated us smoking ciggerettes..when her doctor finally cut off her supply of pain medicone which was percocet by choice, her doctor went to jail for writing narcotics to all his female patients. she had a piece of **** "friend" we will call them that talked my mom into believing that "heroine" was a great painkiller and she was addicted until she died of brain cancer in 96. i myself have never ever gone the heroine route and never will. i find myself very sad and lonely and extremely angry and nasty when i dont have the narcotic in my system. i too get no more euphoric feeling from the drug like i use to but it seems that my body needs the narcotic to survive from day to day. and dealing with the people in the clubs makes me nuts as if i didnt have them id probably punch them literally. i cant stand people anymore straight as i realize sometimes how stupid they act and dont care who they hurt or piss off.......sigh

im going to look around for this methadone treatment center and see what it does for me. i pray that it will make me somewhat normal again and hopefully i get to see the world with new eyes for once.

love you all for caring
summer

thanks a bunch

Summer

[theresalee]

Hi I'm new here, but found so many storie similiar to mine and to others I know.. I run a pain and addiction forum which is member by approval so its private but I can add anyone I want..... So many do not like to talk about this in public.... I think a Dr should have his license taken away if he sends someone away in pain with nothing!!!! I wasn't able to read all the posts but I did read a few about some taking tramadol or Ultram.. It is very addictive, its given for low pain levels for the most part.. just wanted to get that out from what I read earlier... Anyway I have been a pain patient for 4 years with almost every one of my cervical disks herniated or bulging... also have carpal tunnel, Anyway I will make this as short as possible but I took narcotics and tolerance set in so i needed more and more for the pain... I was convinced I was just an addict! Compared to dependent which is what i am... Anyway during this time I decided I had to stop taking meds b/c they just stopped working and it seemed as though no DR wanted to give me anything. I found out that some DR's subscribe subutex generic- buphenephrine spelling? to tapper and make the process an easier one then cold turkey. Well withen just a couple weeks of this I couldn;t handle the pain and talked to this DR about it. So he has me on a larger amount of subutex for pain.... when I started taking the larger amount of 2 to 4 mg I felt pretty good, I felt like I had never touched a drug before... My pain has gotten worse due to more ruptures so I'm on the ceiling amount of 32mg and it doesn't work well for the worst pain.. However I haven't felt better mentally since this has all began.. I don't know why DR's don't suggest it for fybro patients depending on their pain levels of course.. But it works about as good as Ultram/tramadol In my opinion... A Dr has to have a license to subscribe subutex for addiction but any dr can for pain but its not easy b/c it's a known drug mostly for addiction... I have no side effects of this drug, like constipation, anxiety, drowsy etc... You just feel good and when that happens you become energized etc..... So many of you here sound just like the ones at my forum . even though I do have addicts there as well looking for support and ways to help with withdrawal symptoms.... In all honesty with my pain I am a prime canidate for methadone and if it gets worse i may check into it even though my husband is dead set against it!! b/c its an addicts med in his mind... I would have to be off the subutex first for a few days before trying any narc b/c it has a block and I couldn't feel the effects of a narc it I wanted too.... Which sucks when I have bad pain or a tooth ache!!!!
Anyway nice to meet everyone and if i can lend support i sure will>>> Theresa

Terri

[gettinolder]

ok first let me say that if i ddint have you guys i am not sure i could manage. im here in iowa in freezing cold and feel very ************.
my husband as i stated in previous letter has me monitored on a certain amount of pain killers a day which does suck royally as i know my body now has a high tolerance. the amount i take now a day does nothing for me except to put the narcotic into my system so i dont go through withdrawl........sigh this is probably going to be the hardest thing i ever did in my life and i have alot of rough things. im just hopint i can do it. ive heard that the success rate of a narcotic addict kickin the habit is not a high one. that scares me even more. im a tough minded girl but this addiction has run my life for a long time and im not sure if i can live without it.

please pray for me.......and hope to hear from you all
ill keep you informed as to what i come up with as far as my search for the methadone clinics.

summer

thanks a bunch

Summer