[PoppyQueen]

Tocqueville, tapering would be the least painless way to go. I found I just couldn't do it. Give your pills to a loved one if need be to dispense to you. If you hold on to them, your head will start playing tricks with you. You'll always justify "just this once" over and over.

Cold turkey will make you very uncomfortable and you'll be sick for about a week.

I like Advil best for back pain as well as wearing OTC pain patches that stick on your skin (i.e., Absorbine Jr., Ben Gay). Acupuncture is really good, too.

Good luck to you!

Poppy

[girlie girl]

Tocqueville, Poppy is right... Cold Turkey sucks. If you have someone to give your pills to, that would be your best bet for cutting down. But make sure that person won't give in to your begging. That didn't work for me, cause my husband would just give me a pill, just to make me happy. Exercise helps me with my cravings too. Good Luck. Hey Chrish, How are you doing? I'm ok. But I'm back to one or two loratab/10's a day. I just can't seem to get away from those last few. It sucks..It's like a neverending battle. I hope your still doing good. I checked out that www.na.org. But there is no meetings around me. Thats kindof crazy..cause I live in a big city. Memphis,TN. Do you know of any online NA meetings? I have told a few friends about my addiction but they are just kindof like...your the pretty cheerleader type, why would you need drugs? So none of them understand. Addiction can happen to all kinds of people. Just because people think I'm pretty on the outside doesn't mean that I happy with myself on the inside. I feel like if I even go to a NA meeting..that people wouldn't take me seriously. I can't get my own friends to take me seriously. I hade a coke a addiction about 5 years ago...but no one knew except for one friend and my dealer. I was on a pro cheer squad and in the pagent for Miss Tenn... so it would have been the talk of the town. I had no choice but to keep it to myself or lose everything I wanted. I quit that on my own. So why can't I quit the damn pills??? Sorry for rambling. I'm just pissed I ever let myself get into this ****. I hope everyone else is doing good with thier own addictions. Love [:X]

Girlie Girl

[phre0n]

Hey guys i wont say na meetings are bad, there wonderful but i really want to point out the fact that there not your way out alone if you've been taking pain killers for a long time, not only will you need a strong will but you will also need someone close to you to express your feelings to let them know how you feel on a personal level not on a group basis, a trust worthy friend in my opinion is extreamly valuable, aside from that you can look into suboxone as treatment along with all of that, but i will always stand by my word that no one in there life should ever go on methadone you'll get off heroin cold turkey before you get off methadone.

[chrish1]

Hey Girlie Girl,

I can relate to everything you are saying about trying to keep your addiction secret. On the outside, I've had a very successful sales career, and I've been with the same company 10 years. 9 out of those 10 years, I have been in the top 5% of my compnay in sales revenue. So, for me NA was really the only way to go since it is totally anonymous. Nobody besides a couple very close people in my life know. Trust me, I felt like I stuck out like a sore thumb at my first NA meeting. But, I learned quickly that the people there are very supportive no matter who/what you are, and they WILL take you seriously as long as you speak honestly and from your heart. They are really good at seeing through bulls#it since most of them were some of the biggest bulls#itters. Exercise helps me a lot also, so that is great that it helps with your cravings. Don't worry, you're doing great! I was exactly where you were when I first started going to NA meetings, one percocet a day (or so). I was losing hope at quitting. Surprisingly, after 3 NA meetings, I stopped using. Today, I am 53 days clean. You might want to try calling an NA hotline and see if there are any meetings in/near Memphis. I'd be surprised if there were not.... I'm not sure if they have online NA meetings - interesting idea. Just hang in there, and don't lose hope. I have a good feeling you WILL beat this thing sooner or later!

Good luck everybody.... Fight the good fight. If I can do 53 days clean, anybody can. It just takes the right support system and education on addiction. One other thing.... blah blah blah The outpatient program (paid for by my insurance company) had really helped me understand the addiction, which is the first step in recovering (admitting powerlessness to the addiction and admitting it has made our lives unmanageable). There IS enjoyment of life beyond drugs.

Chrish

quote:Originally posted by girlie girl

Tocqueville, Poppy is right... Cold Turkey sucks. If you have someone to give your pills to, that would be your best bet for cutting down. But make sure that person won't give in to your begging. That didn't work for me, cause my husband would just give me a pill, just to make me happy. Exercise helps me with my cravings too. Good Luck. Hey Chrish, How are you doing? I'm ok. But I'm back to one or two loratab/10's a day. I just can't seem to get away from those last few. It sucks..It's like a neverending battle. I hope your still doing good. I checked out that www.na.org. But there is no meetings around me. Thats kindof crazy..cause I live in a big city. Memphis,TN. Do you know of any online NA meetings? I have told a few friends about my addiction but they are just kindof like...your the pretty cheerleader type, why would you need drugs? So none of them understand. Addiction can happen to all kinds of people. Just because people think I'm pretty on the outside doesn't mean that I happy with myself on the inside. I feel like if I even go to a NA meeting..that people wouldn't take me seriously. I can't get my own friends to take me seriously. I hade a coke a addiction about 5 years ago...but no one knew except for one friend and my dealer. I was on a pro cheer squad and in the pagent for Miss Tenn... so it would have been the talk of the town. I had no choice but to keep it to myself or lose everything I wanted. I quit that on my own. So why can't I quit the damn pills??? Sorry for rambling. I'm just pissed I ever let myself get into this ****. I hope everyone else is doing good with thier own addictions. Love [:X]

Girlie Girl

[girlie girl]

Chrish, thank you so much for all of your support. You are a really great person, and I hope you never fall back to your addiction again. I just have to let these pills go. I will...Its just a matter of when. I'm going to check around for some na meetings. Keep your fingers crossed. Thanks Again.

Girlie Girl

[CorTan]

Wow, you guys are so amazing. I have been almost a week without them. I try to stay focused on today and try so hard not to think about tomorrow. I have had the whole weel alnoe all day till nite and 9pm alone and did it. My Mom took me out on one day and I felt ok (so so) to be out and put food in my house. My hubby and I had a day out and come hme listen to music and that felt good. The day is almost over and I am thinking how it will be for me to sleep tonight. I just can't get relaxed yet to get sleep. With help I hope to beat this because of your post.......some real inspiring reading. Good luck and take care.

[stone10]

i was put on avinza 30 mg witch was increased to 60 mg
later for sever back problems the other day i missed a dose and
became vomiting diaria headaches and cold and hot sweats can anyone help me to let me no how to get off avinza that a doctor had put me on i also was given hydrocodone for pain as well please help[V]

[cascade1473]

Hey all, I just wanted to introduce myself. I have a little bit of clean time and alot of crazy thoughts. I have been struggling with pk addiciton for the past year or so, and finally entered myself into an IOP program. I have been in active addiction for the past 4 years or so. To be honest I don't really want to stop, but I have setup so many rules in my life, that I have to. Let me explain...my significant other keeps a UA kit in the house, I told a couple doctors im an addict, and everyone else that I isolate. After treatment I thought that I could just find an easier way to pick up and use. Anyway, I'm tired and exhausted from running around and am trying the NA way. Plus, the little traps I setup for myself seem to be working, but sometimes my thoughts are so strong that I want to pick up and use....NO MATTER WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES are. Whenever I stress I want to use, social situations, good..bad..or otherwise, its all the same...get loaded. it's like i forgot how to behave without the use of pk's..although i can maintain a few days just knowing that i can let down my guard and get loaded after those few days. It's sick that for behaving "normally" for a few days that i want to reward myself with anti-social and dangerous behavior. at my worst i eat 20 pills a day. anyway, i want to stop and i would love to hear from any of you..

[sohappytoseeotherslikeme]

hey guys it feels so good to know theres others out there, ive been living a scary cold dark life. i started with vicodin till they didint even faze me anymore went on the percocets, on to oxycontin and morphine, onto heroin 4-5 times. after irealized im using such a horrible drug like heroin i had to do something. i am know seeing a specialist that prescribes me suboxone. i started with 8 mg a day on to 12 a day on to 24 a day on to 12 a day and now im on 8 as day again. its been two weeks that im clean but i smoke alot of weedt to now think about doing ox. im so happy im atleast trying to stop but i dont know if this will work. ive tried mixing suboxone with benzo's but i liked it so much i stopped. please responmse wiht any words of advice iwould love to hear from anyone, ive neever been able to speak to others in my situation. im embaressed to try na. any reply wiht any positive comments would be amazing. im tired of this bull**** life its time we all take control and become succesful, good bless all of you and thanks for taking ur time to read. 21 yr old male, ny. thanx again good luck[8D][V]

[girlie girl]

So Happy...Good job on getting on the suboxone!! Thats your first step to getting clean. I have heard about alot great results from that stuff. I know what you mean about being to embarrased to go to NA. I am too. But if I don't break myself from this pill cycle soon...then I may have no other choice then to try it. Don't be hard on yourself about the weed. Staying off the major drugs should be your # 1 thing to work on. Just take everythung one day at a time. It doesn't happen over night. Its a lot easier to get hooked on a drug, thenit is to get clean. This forum is kindof my NA for now, and it can be yours too. Let me know how your doing.

Girlie Girl

[chrish1]

Cortan, Great job going a week without painkillers. I wish you luck. I'm glad that this board has helped you.

Girlie, hang in there. As addicts, we tend to be hard on ourselves. The important thing is that you have the desire to quit - just keep that desire, and you will find a way - a way that works for you personally.

Everybody: We can arrest our addictions, but we cannot do it alone. We need to have a great support system in place, and we need to get educated on addiction. I recommend picking up some NA literature if you are not comfortable with going to meetings. There is some great educational information about addiction and how to quit. Quitting is tough, but it is even tougher to stay clean. We need to focus on one day at a time. Just focus on getting ONE clean day, and see if you can do it. That is what I did, and now I have 58 clean days. It all started with one day. I am still taking it one day at a time, but overall it seems to be getting easier all the time. I have a great program though since I know I can't do it alone. I have outpatient 3 nights a week, 3 hours each session. Also, I go to 5-6 NA meetings per week. I also work the NA program, which is a 12 step program; I do service in NA such as setting up chairs/tables...etc, I read the NA literature every day, and I meditate for at least 20 minutes a day. I also try to pray to get in touch with my higher power. All of these things operate as a program, and they help me stay clean. It takes effort to stay clean, but once you have a program that works for you it becomes "effortless effort." Nonetheless, it does take action. We cannot beat this thing on our own, so I suggest finding a program that other addicts have used to successfully arrest their addiction. Addicts learn best from addicts who have some clean time. Find out how they did it and use some of that information to find a program of your own. Did I mention having a program is necessary?

Anyway, sorry for rambling on. I just want to share what I have learned over the last couple months. Hopefully this will inspire a couple addicts to have the desire to work a proven program and get some clean time. If you get one day clean, post it on here. That is an accomplishment!

Chrish

quote:Originally posted by CorTan

Wow, you guys are so amazing. I have been almost a week without them. I try to stay focused on today and try so hard not to think about tomorrow. I have had the whole weel alnoe all day till nite and 9pm alone and did it. My Mom took me out on one day and I felt ok (so so) to be out and put food in my house. My hubby and I had a day out and come hme listen to music and that felt good. The day is almost over and I am thinking how it will be for me to sleep tonight. I just can't get relaxed yet to get sleep. With help I hope to beat this because of your post.......some real inspiring reading. Good luck and take care.

[cascade1473]

ChrisH, girlie, sohappytoseeotherslikeme, I am on day 7 of cold turkey. Most of the physical craving is gone, but it is now a mental game. I keep checking pharmacies to see if I have a refill left just as extra padding in case I freak out. Last night though, i said the serenity prayer when I was stuck in my own head....and it actually lifted the obsession for a couple hours. The hards part is to keep that conscious contact with that feeling and not start head tripping again. I dont know if any of you are like me, but I get high before I get high. Just thinking about using makes me cycle through the whole highs and lows of using. The only thing keeping me clean at the moment are NA meetings and my sponsor...I got one immediately because thats what they told me to do. Every day I try to admit to someone how I am feeling...someone told me that "our secrets keep us sick." I never thought I would be able to stay clean for more than a few days, maybe everyone else in NA, but NOT ME. I am doing it though, and If a self-obsessed, self-involved, self-everything addict like me can put together a few days clean...than so can anyone.

[kickedtheaddiction]

My Story: (today is Thurs.)

Started taking Norco 10/325 about 17 months ago for a back problem. 17 months later I was taking 2-7 Norco's a day for pleasure. No pain. Finally, this past weekend I decided enough was enough. Haven't had one since this Sun. at 4pm. Withdrawals were strating to kick in pretty good by Monday night. Tuesday morning I was pretty much a wreck. My buddy ordered some Kratom online and got it delivered Tuesday. I guess this stuff is supposed to calm withdrawls. At that point, I would of eaten dog **** if it could possibly in any way make me feel better. Well, I tried some, 30 min. later, no withdrawls...at all. It's now day 4 for me, only took a little Kratom this am, feel totally normal, and not craving a Norco in the very least. Had 10 Nocro's in my hand last night that my buddy owed me, put them right back in his stash. Not even an urge or a thought to take one.

Anyone going through the terrible pain of withdrawls, do a little research on Kratom. Those of you scared to quit because of withdrawls, do a little research on Kratom. It works like magic and is not addicting at all. makes you feel much better and even get on with your work.

I am so happy to have my life back and I am ready for my future. Bring it on!

You can do it!

[johnnycash]

KickedTheAddiction: Why would you take something when you were doing fine on your own? I don't understand that. How many grams of Kratom are you taking?

Be careful -

http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=16665

What are safe usage guidelines of Kratom?
It is best to err on the side of caution. Therefore, we recommend that people not use Kratom more than once a week. Preferably, no more than once or twice a month

Is kratom habit forming?
Although a small number of people have become dependent on kratom (primarily in Thailand), kratom is not habit forming when it is used responsibly. If used occasionally as a recreational drug, rather than daily, there is virtually no risk of becoming dependent on it. But it is very important not to get into the habit of using it every day. For kratom, like many drugs [e.g. alcohol, coffee, tobacco, etc.] if used on a daily basis for a prolonged period of time, could become a habit hard to break. IT IS IMPORTANT NOT TO USE KRATOM EVERY DAY. Before starting to experiment with it set yourself usage guidelines. If you EVER find it is hard to stay within your usage guidelines immediately quit using kratom.

Based on the pharmacology of kratom, it seems addiction is a strong possibility with long term use. Heavy users may chew kratom between 3 and 10 times a day. While new users may only need a few leaves to obtain the desired effects, some users find with time they need to increase doses to 10-30 leaves or even more per day.

quote:Originally posted by kickedtheaddiction

My Story: (today is Thurs.)

Started taking Norco 10/325 about 17 months ago for a back problem. 17 months later I was taking 2-7 Norco's a day for pleasure. No pain. Finally, this past weekend I decided enough was enough. Haven't had one since this Sun. at 4pm. Withdrawals were strating to kick in pretty good by Monday night. Tuesday morning I was pretty much a wreck. My buddy ordered some Kratom online and got it delivered Tuesday. I guess this stuff is supposed to calm withdrawls. At that point, I would of eaten dog **** if it could possibly in any way make me feel better. Well, I tried some, 30 min. later, no withdrawls...at all. It's now day 4 for me, only took a little Kratom this am, feel totally normal, and not craving a Norco in the very least. Had 10 Nocro's in my hand last night that my buddy owed me, put them right back in his stash. Not even an urge or a thought to take one.

Anyone going through the terrible pain of withdrawls, do a little research on Kratom. Those of you scared to quit because of withdrawls, do a little research on Kratom. It works like magic and is not addicting at all. makes you feel much better and even get on with your work.

I am so happy to have my life back and I am ready for my future. Bring it on!

You can do it!

[johnnycash]

Kickedtheaddiction:

Why would you start taking another addictive substance? How many grams are you taking?

Is kratom habit forming?
It is very important not to get into the habit of using it every day. For kratom, like many drugs [e.g. alcohol, coffee, tobacco, etc.] if used on a daily basis for a prolonged period of time, could become a habit hard to break. IT IS IMPORTANT NOT TO USE KRATOM EVERY DAY. Before starting to experiment with it set yourself usage guidelines. If you EVER find it is hard to stay within your usage guidelines immediately quit using kratom.

What are safe usage guidelines?
It is best to err on the side of caution. Therefore, we recommend that people not use Kratom more than once a week. Preferably, no more than once or twice a month. This will insure that Kratom does not become a habit. In other words, kratom should be reserved as a special, but OCCASIONAL treat. By using it infrequently, you will avoid habituation and get more pleasure from it.

quote:Originally posted by kickedtheaddiction

My Story: (today is Thurs.)

Started taking Norco 10/325 about 17 months ago for a back problem. 17 months later I was taking 2-7 Norco's a day for pleasure. No pain. Finally, this past weekend I decided enough was enough. Haven't had one since this Sun. at 4pm. Withdrawals were strating to kick in pretty good by Monday night. Tuesday morning I was pretty much a wreck. My buddy ordered some Kratom online and got it delivered Tuesday. I guess this stuff is supposed to calm withdrawls. At that point, I would of eaten dog **** if it could possibly in any way make me feel better. Well, I tried some, 30 min. later, no withdrawls...at all. It's now day 4 for me, only took a little Kratom this am, feel totally normal, and not craving a Norco in the very least. Had 10 Nocro's in my hand last night that my buddy owed me, put them right back in his stash. Not even an urge or a thought to take one.

Anyone going through the terrible pain of withdrawls, do a little research on Kratom. Those of you scared to quit because of withdrawls, do a little research on Kratom. It works like magic and is not addicting at all. makes you feel much better and even get on with your work.

I am so happy to have my life back and I am ready for my future. Bring it on!

You can do it!

[LaraGray]

Hi! I am new at this. Are people taking pain killers for pain or for the feeling. I remember last year, my boss wanted to know what pain killers I was on before and after my surgery. He wanted to buy them! I had never heard of such a thing, my lucky for me, his mom sent him something else. When I fould out he took cocaine I was glad it was just a seasonal job.

My pain after my 2 knee surgeries was very intense. My knee replacement last Jan took me over the edge because the pain was soo great. I wanted to die. I cried, I screamed, I really wanted to die. Riding in a car 25 miles each way to Dr. appointments would take me over the edge with the pain and the nausea, and the side effects of prescriptian drugs. Finally after 2 months, my ortho Dr. refered me to a pain clinic. I am trying to fight beck the tears even now, just remembering. Everyone there was in pain. I went in and was so distraught with tears that a lady got up to give me the couch so my husband could help me. I cried during paperwork, nurse questions and by the time when the Dr. came in, I was probably really scary looking. He believed me, he wanted tp help and he did. He prescribed a pain patch. It is a narcotic, I can't drive or work, we are broke, but I have pain relief which is what I need to live and what my husband needs to be able to live with me. I never knew I had chronic pain, plus a low threshold. I guess this is why when I got sick and missed work is because I probably felt more pain than them ( you know, the don't bring your sickness to work, but don't miss work deal). Now I take my patch along with mobic. The pain is never truly always gone, but it has been close. I don't feel as "drunk" now. Since this didn't totally work, every 2 monthes I have been getting a nerve block. The 1st 2 were for the leg and the last 2 were from my lower back down. I mentioned having to go to the ER for back pain, so he order a MRI. He could see where I had problems with the 4th and 5th veribrea. That is why he changed injection sight. It worked so far 3 out of 4 times and I go back the 18th for #5. The pain clinic monitors my meds through my Pharmacy and if they find out you misused, sold, or took other pain meds, they cut you off. I thank God for for Pain Clinic Staff because they have helped my pain. Am I addicted? I don't know. But right know I have gone over a day putting on a new patch and I can tell. My knee HURTS! I know the pain is not gone and I still need pain control. The patch and blocks have made a great difference in my life.

[debo79720]

I feel really bad, that your friend has to go through the pain & suffering of withdrawal. The doctors write scrips for it and then when you are faced with a problem, they want to cut off your supply and give you a non-narc drug such as ultram, which gave me much more problems than the narc pain killers ever did. Then of course, they refuse to give you the necessary help to overcome your addiction. It makes it hard to be up front with your health care provider. Then you start shopping for a doctor to help you. A vicious circle.
Then you are still dealing with the pain that started you down this rocky road. I have been lucky that I could lay the meds aside when necessary without going through withdrawals. Doggy I pray for you and your friend. I see that she has been blessed with one thing that will help her get through this...a very caring friend.
I will keep both of you in my prayers, and hope for the very best.

[debo79720]

I feel really bad, that your friend has to go through the pain & suffering of withdrawal. The doctors write scrips for it and then when you are faced with a problem, they want to cut off your supply and give you a non-narc drug such as ultram, which gave me much more problems than the narc pain killers ever did. Then of course, they refuse to give you the necessary help to overcome your addiction. It makes it hard to be up front with your health care provider. Then you start shopping for a doctor to help you. A vicious circle.
Then you are still dealing with the pain that started you down this rocky road. I have been lucky that I could lay the meds aside when necessary without going through withdrawals. Doggy I pray for you and your friend. I see that she has been blessed with one thing that will help her get through this...a very caring friend.
I will keep both of you in my prayers, and hope for the very best.

[kickedtheaddiction]

Johnnycash-

I was not doing fine....i was in living hell the first two days. The third day i took 3 grams, yesterday 2 grams, today i will take one and not take anymore again. Its just to help with the withdrawls. I can't see how the stuff is addictive. It does not give you ANY feeling of euphoria or anything close to it.

Just lets you get by with your daily flow.......

[johnnycash]

Johnny Cash says you are using Kratom at acceptable levels> Keep it up. Stay clean!

quote:Originally posted by kickedtheaddiction

Johnnycash-

I was not doing fine....i was in living hell the first two days. The third day i took 3 grams, yesterday 2 grams, today i will take one and not take anymore again. Its just to help with the withdrawls. I can't see how the stuff is addictive. It does not give you ANY feeling of euphoria or anything close to it.

Just lets you get by with your daily flow.......

[kickedtheaddiction]

Thanks johnny cash. I would never trade one for another. not afte rthe hell i have been living in the last 17 months. im ready to move on here. feel great today. no kratom so far, may not need it at all!!!!

[johnnycash]

Good job kickedtheaddiction.
Johnny cash says stay strong. It's mind over matter at this point. Stay focused, and most of all, STAY CLEAN! Easier said than done. It's a long term battle, but you can only win if you take it one day at a time. Stay clean today!

Johnny Cash

quote:Originally posted by kickedtheaddiction

Thanks johnny cash. I would never trade one for another. not afte rthe hell i have been living in the last 17 months. im ready to move on here. feel great today. no kratom so far, may not need it at all!!!!

[girlie girl]

Hey guys. I hope everyone is doing good today. I'm weaning myself off loratab/10's again. Down to one sat, then half on sunday. I know I can do this. I barley even get a buzz off them anymore. I just feel ****ty without them. One day at a time, and we can all beat this!!! Good luck. [:X]

Girlie Girl

[chrish1]

Hi Girlie Girl. Clean day # 60 for me today. I get to get my 60 days Clean and Serene tag at my NA meeting tonight. If I can do it, anybody can. The only difference between me and everybody that doesn't have clean time (yet) is I have a program that works for me and I got educated on it. You can do this thing too. I'm so glad to see you remain focused. No matter what we are in your corner. You are strong to wean down like you did already.... Hang in there, and take it one day at a time!

Chrish

quote:Originally posted by girlie girl

Hey guys. I hope everyone is doing good today. I'm weaning myself off loratab/10's again. Down to one sat, then half on sunday. I know I can do this. I barley even get a buzz off them anymore. I just feel ****ty without them. One day at a time, and we can all beat this!!! Good luck. [:X]

Girlie Girl

[girlie girl]

Thanks Chrish!!! 60 days...that is sooo great! You should be really proud of yourself. I really think you have made it. I'm going to do it too! Keep me posted and I'll do the same. Love [:X]

Girlie Girl

[othepain]

quote:Originally posted by Doggy

I have a really good friend who is addicted to the pain killer Hydrocodone. Anyhow she wants to stop but everytime she does she gets really bad withdrawals such as sweating and shaking, can't sleep, etc. I was wondering if anyone out there has been through this on their own without going to a treatment center. If so please tell me what to do for her and how long it took for the withdrawals to go away!!!! HELP!!!!

I am going through it right now, my legs , hurt, irratable etc...4 about 5 days, it has gotta better, i have taken1 mg xanax for irrabilty, advil gel caps 3 at a time,absorbine jr, and hot & ice alternanting between the 2 for the leg pains it still is hard but you have 2 think of how much better you will feel in the future, good luck p.s. hot bath soaks w/ salt 3 times a day helped me too

trixie trix

[nitetripper]

god bless and happy holidays to all of you ...you guys realy know your stuff when it comes to the misery , suffering and hell that comes with getting off pills... but thank god many of you have found some answers.. for me .. i was up to 25 - 30 lortab 10"s per day... i used up every credit card , bank account, and savings to run out and get pills..i felt so stupid because i know i was getting ripped off on the cost..ie , sometimes 4 or 5 bucks a pop !!! i wasnt even using to get high anymore... just to get out of withdrawls and feel" normal" of course id try and get a good high going especially when i had withdrawls real bad and scored 20 or so pills...i was even to the point of pawning in my guitar equipment to get money for pills...well today i went to a doc on the suboxone list here in las vegas . and am now taling one 2mg pill sublinguially every 6 hours.... i feel pretty good... he also gave me some lorazepam, soma and trazadone for rest and sleep... it expensive but this is my last chance ..i was almost to the point of suicide..i was so bad in withdrawls last week(24 hours wo pills)and i swear i was actually to weak to kill myself... i come to this foram alot and you guys always give me alot of hope .. .thanks and god bless you all[8D]

[LoneTiger]

Hello People.
This is my first reply on this site after reading all of the replies for a couple of days.

I want to agree with all who say getting off Methadone is horrible.

My story is a very different one.

I am (was) nothing more than a daily pot smoker. I hate Alcohol (It just doesn't make me feel good). I didn't take any other drugs other than an occasional aspririn.

I lost my job a while back and had no choice but to stop smoking weed for a good while so I could apply for a decent job, since pre-employment drug screenings are all the rage these days.
It takes at least a month for a daily smoker to get it out of the system, no two ways about it.

While at a party one night, a friend gave me 3 pills which he said were 'methadose' and said "try these". I figured "what the heck?, at least I can get a buzz on something if I can't smoke".

I looked it up on the internet and it said they only stay in your system for 2 or 3 days.

So I took them and got stoned for like 24 hours straight. I figured this might be a good way to avoid the mental withdrawal of quitting weed. The friend gets them free, and gave me a couple hundred.

I then for about the next 2-3 months took a couple every 1 or 2 days and had no need for weed, as I thought I wouldn't.
Unfortunately, I didn't really get much of a buzz anymore and had worked it up to 4-5 a day.
Even that didn't do anything, but at least I didn't need any weed.

(Actually, once a pot smoker gets through the first couple weeks, it's easy not to smoke weed since there are no physical withdrawal symptoms, just mental).

Well, after 2 or 3 months, I just decided that the chronic constipation and the nodding off were really not worth having. I tapered myself off, all the way down to one, then quit cold turkey last Friday.

I felt okay a couple days, but Monday I really felt nasty, with restless legs, hot and cold chills, having goose bumps but being hot, and freezing when it's 80 degrees in the house. I'd put the heat on and within seconds be burning up again, only to begin freezing to death again as soon as I turned the heat off.
Plus I'm having trouble sleeping and just feel lousy and depressed.

I only came to this site to see if this is normal withdrawal from Methadone and found out from you guys that it certainly is, and that I might even expect to feel this way for possibly up to 14 days. Yikes!

I tell you, there is no mental withdrawal at least, because I really don't like the buzz. I was and am quite content with a couple tokes of weed and thats all. But I won't be smoking again either, as long as I can help it.

Today is the 5th day of my cold turkey cessation and I'm feeling better but still shaky, depressed, hot and cold, and with restless muscles. And I can't really afford to be putting the heat on so much, without a job.

I know I will get through this because as it's been for the past 10 years of my life, It's just God and me. I live alone and prefer it. My best friend is The Lord, and He gets me through everything.
If it were just me, I could never handle this, or any of the other problems life constantly deals me. But I have no desire to take another pill and I'm even content without the weed now. Next I will attempt to quit smoking cigarettes once this nightmare is over.

I admit, I have taken a couple aspirin each day since I stopped, and wonder how much worse I would feel without them. Normally I don't take those, but I had an old bottle from a back injury a year ago that went away.

You guys are right on when you say Methadone should be avoided like the plague, if at all possible.
It was a stupid thing for me to start on, and I know I will never take another.

If anything, it's given me a strong empathy for all of you good people who struggle with pain pill addiction each day. I have found myself breaking down in tears and crying, and calling out to The Lord in prayer for so many of you as I have read your posts. I know that I am only feeling probably 1/10th of the pain that many of you are feeling, and I sympathize with you and pray for all of you as you continue to do the right thing. God Bless all of you who are trying to get your lives back.

If any of you are feeling overwhelmed, call upon The Lord. He is ever present and knows your every pain. He loves each of you unconditionally, no matter what you have ever done wrong. He created each of you and He loves you more than you love yourself. He will comfort you.

God Bless you all,
LoneTiger

[Munsters1970]

Just looking into the "WEB" to find people that live the same life of Hell that I live in. I read about peoples past dealings with the withdraw and dealing with withdraw problems right now as I type this. It is so unreal to thing that these little pills have change who I am and control everthing in my life. I've been on Suboxone 8mg-2mg 2 times a day. When I first starting taking Suboxone it was a miracle how my life was changing so fast and I really didn't care about the "pills". I must admit in the last few months I have been dipping back and fourth between my "pills" problem and Suboxone. I guess I should be so greatful that I don't have to worry about withdraw problems as after I'm done abusing I can rely on my Subxone. I hate this because my whole life is a lie.

[la nut]

yea i went though it.... and then started again but i was addicted to codine and it will stop in about 2 weeks and he gets worse as tiem goes on.... but tell her that i will go away and you will feel 10 tounsand times better after its over....