[richkid04]

Thanks for all the support and advice, It's really helped a lot.

I will do the 30 day period, and I can almost guarantee that I can do it.

[PoppyQueen]

Atta Boy, RichKid. So you can send me all your leftover pills...just kidding (having a temporary moment of weakness).[V]

Seriously, good luck. If we could all do it, you can too!



Poppy

[anrob11]

quote:Originally posted by richkid04

Thanks for all the support and advice, It's really helped a lot.

I will do the 30 day period, and I can almost guarantee that I can do it.

]Excellent Decision richkid Keep in touch.

Tony [8D]

To Be A Rock And Not To Roll

[girlie girl]

Well, I tried to go without any loratab yesterday. I was fine untill about 4:00 in the afternoon...I couldn't take it anymore. I can barely make it 24 hours then I start craving pills like a mad woman. Will I always crave them or does it get better after a few days? Also I was wondering if anyone knows if Darvocet works good for pain? Thanks. [:X]

Girlie Girl

[girlie girl]

Oh yea...Good choice Rich Kid. Please keep us posted. Best wishes. [:X]

Girlie Girl

[chrish1]

quote:Originally posted by girlie girl

Well, I tried to go without any loratab yesterday. I was fine untill about 4:00 in the afternoon...I couldn't take it anymore. I can barely make it 24 hours then I start craving pills like a mad woman. Will I always crave them or does it get better after a few days? Also I was wondering if anyone knows if Darvocet works good for pain? Thanks. [:X]

Girlie Girl

[chrish1]

Girlie, Don't expect the craving to go away after a few days. I am clean 39 days now, and the cravings come and go. For the most part the cravings seem to be getting less intense, except Wed. morning, I had really bad cravings, and I almost relapsed. A drug like Suboxone can be helpful for those taking larger quantities of opiates, but it sounds like you have already weaned down to very little. You have come a long way, so hang in there. Find things that work for you while you are having the cravings and do those things. Keep adding things to your arsenal. Unfortunately, adddiction is something that we need to deal with long term, so the best thing you can do is admit it, and then come up with a plan for long term. You can do it - just stay focused. Hope this helps a little at least.



Chrish

quote:Originally posted by girlie girl

Well, I tried to go without any loratab yesterday. I was fine untill about 4:00 in the afternoon...I couldn't take it anymore. I can barely make it 24 hours then I start craving pills like a mad woman. Will I always crave them or does it get better after a few days? Also I was wondering if anyone knows if Darvocet works good for pain? Thanks. [:X]

Girlie Girl

[girlie girl]

Thanks Chrish. 39 days thats awesome. It sucks that you still have cravings. I was wishing that they just went away after the drug was out of your body. Your doing great. Tommorrow is another day, so I'm going to try again. [:X]

Girlie Girl

[downinthedumps]

Please help! I quiting 5 a day 10/650 I went almost 24 hours(I kept crying for no reason ) and felt okay but I can feel myself slipping into a big depression so I started using again until I can the doc and get anti-deps.Has anyone had any thing like this? Crying for no reason? it has been coming onfor a couple weeks cause I know my fun is coming to a end and i think i started using because i was depressed to begin with and it makes me feel happy.

What doesn't kill me
Shall make a stronger person

[chrish1]

Hi again Girlie.... Yes, the cravings do suck sometimes, but most of the time they are pretty easily managed (at this point). I expect them to be around (on and off) indefinitely. I go to a lot of NA meetings, and the guys and gals that have been clean for a few years say that cravings is something you need to learn to live with. I'm at a point right now where I am becoming more accepting of the cravings as something that will come and go. It took us years to build up our habit, so it will probably take years to undo it. I truly believe that all of the effort will be worth it. Otherwise, in addiction we are slowing leading towards death or insanity.

Now, it is time for us to come back home. The journey back home probably won't be easy, but the destination is much more desirable - death/insanity vs. home. The ride will have some great ups as well as downs, but ultimitely it will save our lives and lead us to true happiness rather than drug induced euphoria. I hope I'm not being depressing, because I don't mean to be. There is nothing depressing about saving your life from death/insanity. I'm not really religious, but here is something that fits our quest for sanity:

Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide, and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and many are those who enter by it. For the gate is small, and the way is narrow that leads to life, and few are those who find it. -(Matthew 7:13-14)

Chrish

Hang in there girlie. We are pulling for you!

quote:Originally posted by girlie girl

Thanks Chrish. 39 days thats awesome. It sucks that you still have cravings. I was wishing that they just went away after the drug was out of your body. Your doing great. Tommorrow is another day, so I'm going to try again. [:X]

Girlie Girl

[girlie girl]

Thank you so much sweetie. That means alot. I'll keep you posted and please do the same. Good Luck. [:X]

Girlie Girl

[BUTTER27]

HEY EVERYONE I WAS TAJING VICODINS, PERCS, OXCYS, FOR ABOUT 2 YEARS TO HELP ME STUDY IN COLLEGE! BAD IDEA SO I HEARD ABOUT THIS MEDICINE SUBOXNE! DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT IS ADDICTING ASS WELL THIS IS DAY 15 STILL NO SLEEP BUT I AM FEELING BETTER! THIS WAS THE WORST TIME OF MY LIFE WITH CHILDREN AT HOME THOUGHT I HAD THE FLU! IF YOU WANT TO GET OFF PILLS YOU HAVE TO BE STRONG TAKE OFF FROM WORK B CUZ YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND! DIARRHEA, COLDS SWEATS, FEVERS, CRYING, MOANING! SUBOXNE HAS OPIATES IN THEM AND THE DOCTOR IS NOT TELLING ANYONE! IF ANYONE NEEDS HELP PLEASE EMAIL ME I WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT ANYONE I HAVE BEEN THROUGH HELL AND I KNOW ONE DAY ILL BE BACK TO NORMAL! I WAS REACHING OUT FOR HELP BUT NOT NO GOOD HELP CAME ALONG LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS! LSMITH2875@HOTMAIL.COM THANKS AND GOOD LUCK

Lynn

[becky2]

Hi MAtthew!how are you sweetie? I hope you are doing okay and that you have found a doc to help you w/ your plan.sorry i havent emailed you yet,have had sick kiddos and life hsa been crazy!I lost your email,so if you can email me at lilatter@comcast.net w/ it,i will reply w/ that info.you sound like a strong person and i think that you will be very successful when you njust get on the right plan!i am doing really well w/ the suboxone right now and i hope this will be IT!!!!!i feel so much better in every way whern i sm not tsaking those stupid frickin painkillers!it is so nice to have energy again and to feel like i am actually a NORMAL and fun mom again :O).please feel free to call me if you want to talk again (that goes for anyone !)my number is 253-564=9431....sorry about my horrible typing,have my 2 yr old on my lap :O)!!!hahha!!!anyhow,take care and good luck to everybody on this board!you have all helped me so much :O).....have a great day!!!!rebecca [/i]

M
Matthew : Let me please be blunt? The last seven years I have spent three clean, and four far from it. I am now twenty five my first opiate was at 16, but I fell in love at 19. I got clean when I was 20 for one year, and then started w/ Vicodone from back pain ( several car accidents). Doc stopped the Vicodin I kept going
Matthew : Then when I was 21 and 1/2 I hit rock bottom after shooting myself on purpose to get pain medicine. I shot myself in the foot, and then I went into a 28 day treatment facility, only clonodine, and librium. After that I spent 2 years completely clean!( in the second year, traveling to Juvenille halls, speaking at youth events, about drug intervention, and prevention) Then I had a 4 month relapse, recovered. Stayed clean for 8 months after that( still never did methadone, always cold turkey).Then got promoted , upper managment , large company. Started again from a Doc on Vicodin. Now one year later, my credit is ****ed, I have a wife that is nearly going to kill me!!! I want out SO BAD. But I have a life, a job, I cant be sick for 28 days again, and with 245 mgs of oxycontin a day, at 200-250 a day. I have been at it for a year, I went to a Doc, he gave me Methadone, but a month at time!!! So I started abusing Methadone ( cant leave addict with a months worth of stuff. Anyway I kept going to the doc, and although he was dropping the dose( went to the street because it was never comfartable; I feel like I have been detoxing for 2 yrs), and seeing me once a month, my tolerance was getting higher( 200 mgs, 5 wafers a day!) At my last visit ( I should of been celebrating, cuz the doc had me ( he thought) to 5 mgs of Methadone a day. I confessed, and begged for another chance, and I meant it this time. I want freedom so bad. Anyway after the confession, he asked me what would get me through five days. I told him 2 40 mgs, twice a day. He replied with I thought confirming what I said( he said DID's or something). Nurse brought me a script, and I thought it said 40 tabs for 4 days, I asked a nurse, AND SHE SAID " YES 40 40MG TABS FOR 4 DAYS". Turns out he only wrote for 8 pills, and I had no options, money, energy left. The reason he asked how much for 4 days, is because he did this training, On " New" drug called Saboxone. He told me regardless of the dose methadone I am taking, the Suboxone would clear all withdrawel symptoms immediately, and I would be fine. He told me to wait till I started feeling symptoms, " because Suboxone works only when you are in withdrawel" I took my first one, AND I GOT SO SICK , SO FAST, I PUKED BLACK PUKE IN THE TOILET, UNTIL I COULD NOT BREATH. IT WAS THE WORST DETOX EVER, AND I HAVE DETOXED ALOT!!!!!!!!! I CALLED DOC, HE SAID IT WAS NORMAL. I COULDNT MAKE IT, AND NOW I AM BACK ON STREET OPIATES....PLEASE HELP....I am a sucessful business man, and I am only 25. I have hired an Registered Nurse, Excersice specialist. She can dispense medication, and watch me , my diet and she also knows addiction. My doc. told me it was normal to react to Suboxone?? Every thing I have read about it , people say almost 100 percent say," SUBOXONE WORKES SO WELL FOR ME" Well I get sicker every time I take it, it was day seven, and the nurses at my primary care doctor WOULD NOT LISTEN, AND TREAT ME LIKE i AM SUCH AN ASS, AND IT HURTS ME SO. I AM A GOOD MAN, I HAVE A HIRED RN AND EXCELLENT FULL COVERAGE INSURANCE. CAN ANY ONE FIND ME A DOCTOR IN ROSEBURG OR. THAT WILL LISTEN TO ME, AND THAT CAN HELP. MY FAMILY DEPENDS ON WHOEVER CAN HELP ME. I am not a con, I am a good man, and I have fought so hard, I meaN LOOK " 1 yr clean, 9 months not, yrs clean 1 yr not. i need a doc in my area that can help. I have gone back to the street because 7 days of suboxone and I am only getting worse, w every dose of that ****. I mean I puked black bile after my first dose. can you help me.

sincerely,

A MAN WHO WANTS HIS LIFE BACK. BUT LIVE IN A LIMITED AREA. I AM MOVING TO WASHINGTON , RENTON IN JAN 1



Matthew : MATTHEW A. METTA 541-733-6131.
Matthew : 668
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[kyhomegirl]

I would be careful putting my phone number on internet like that. I have heard horror stories of people (mostly women) getting tracked down by doing that. Just thought you should know.

[kyhomegirl]

I would be careful putting my phone number on internet like that. I have heard horror stories of people (mostly women) getting tracked down by doing that. Just thought you should know.

[The Desciple]

It seems that pain killers and pharmacy drugs have taken it's toll on us. My wife is currently in her 5th day of detox from lortabs, somas, and xanex. Her level was extreme and it was destroying her. I made a pact with her in the beggining to never let her run out of pain pill and that was a big mistake. She has different medical issues with back pain and so forth but at this point we will seek other means to deal with the pain. (She is debating about a non narcotic pain reliever and that is non addictive.) I even went to the doctor to get the pain killers to help offset the cost. And yes through time I became addicted to a level of 4 pills a day. It started with one and the buzz was great. Then soon in the evening my stomach would tell me it was time for another. It is scary how fast you belly starts telling you when it is time. I am getting away from the reason I am writing here. To see my wife get to the nodding state daily tore me up. The somas and zanex taken to offset the buz from the pain killers. The holes in my new furniture and quilts and carpet is scary from lighting cigarettes and nodding off. These drugs were killing her and I was being accused of also being addicted by the deamon to the pain killers. I had to make a decision. I cold turkey my small habit and played it at work like I had the flu although I did tell the truth after I kicked it. I was really really sick for about 5 days. Now two weeks later my wife called me from work to take her to one of her doctors. When I got home she was sick and had a bowel problem. We dealt with those big solids and then she decided it was time to quit also. Thank god. I called the owner of the company I work for (my best friend who went to medical school) and he thought it crazy us trying to detox her at home. Anyway we started it Tuesday 11-15-05 and by Wednesday I am getting worried. Her levels of addiction was at least 30 lortabs 15 somas and 8 4-bars a day. I had started back to church 3 weeks earlier and had been praying very hard. I emailed a couple websights and no response. So Wednesday night the preacher caught me before the service and said he had been praying very hard for me and my family and his sermon that night was "desperate times requires desperate measures". He ask the congregation to pray for my wife and ask me to stay after services and talk. I did and he exchanged cell phone numbers with me. Then one of the websights I contacted called me and told me about a vitamin bomb that I would be able to try to help. I did and it did help a little. Then the next day I knew my wife had to have some help and we went to the emergency room where they checked her blood and urine. They put an i v in her and when the results came back they also gave her potasium i v. They did admit her for observation because my insurance does not cover detox. Sheez.. So for the next 24 hours I felt pretty good about it. We have been home now for a day and her pain is there but I believe by the grace of god that she will never take another opiate. She is currenty doing as well as can be expected and I am truly wore out waiting on her hand and feet. I just want to say "I give god all the glory". Sometimes I think the Doctors today are either being paid by the insurance companies or have to become legal drug dealers to make a living. We have a big problem America with the fact that we prescribe prescription drugs with no exit plans. This is sad.

[piercedtat2edgurl]

Well hello everyone. I'm new to this chat. but have a hell of an experience to tell you all. I have been on Percocet for 8 years! I had taken 7.5/500 mg 50 pills a DAY! I have myself done to about 20 a day now. If you have only had the addiction for 1 year or less I URGE you to please STOP NOW!I swear it only gets worse as the days progress. I'm only 31 years old now. I've had numerous medical problems. To many to mention, but I take the medication for back pain, I started the meds because my liver was enlarged and caused me pain. Well, I had a gastric bypass and 90% of my conditions are now way under controll. I have a mild case of osteoarthritis in my back, which should'nt be controlled by percocet, but by something way less then percocet. My husband is also on durelgesic patch 50mg and also percocet 7.5/500. He also abuses each, like me. He's been on it for 2 years. When I get my meds filled he has to hide them from me, because I will pop them like tic-tacs. Also his too. This is a HORRIBLE addiction. When I run out I'm laying in bed very ill thinking Will I make it till my refill! I get diarreah. anorexia, dehydrated, just plain ILL. Without it It seems my pain is unbearable! I have no energy and you all know the routine!I always tell myself " well this is it, I'm not doing this to myself anymore" well thats a joke and a half! I have 7 kids "mine, his and ours" and 2 grand children. I HONESTLY DONT WANT TO LIVE LIKE THIS ANYMORE! I've missed out on christmas partys and to many other events to mention because I ran out of pills. I focus on planning events around "REFILLS". Its sad. Well if anyone wants to know anything please let me know and if anyone has anything helpful to help me or anything please let me know! I've stopped for 3 monthes already. but it seemed the pain was unbearable and I started again. It seems hopeless!!!!!!!! I have to much to write right now so I will make this a section by section. lol

[mpvt]

You really should look into a methadone clinic,even though percocets are weak narcotics you have been on them a long time.I doubt a taper would work for you.Methadone will let you stop taking the percocet and just that is a big help.You will get your energy back and the depression will lift.I know how you feel I was actively addicted for 22 years and for the last 3 I have been on methadone and nothing else.I was taking morphine or diludid but on occasion when nothing else was around I would have to buy percocet.I would take 200 in 3 hours and I would barely get a buzz.So if I can be helped then you can to.You could also try suboxone,you can read up on it at www.suboxone.com ......Good luck and let me know how you make out.....Dave

[The Desciple]

My wife is now in her 7th day of recovery. She has not allowed me to sleep 3 hours straight. She is delusional at times and does not even realize it. She told me last night that she saw the demon that has made her stomach sick and demanded it to leave her. The more I ponder this the more I realize that we are all children of the most high and we have allowed the solutions of the world to try to fix a body made by a creator. These solutions have intoxicated us in the beginning and now torture us. We hate where we are at and yet like a fish on a hook cannot overcome it. We have forgotten our first love and have desired other solutions. She loves the lord in her heart yet her decisions have given the enemy a stronghold in her life. I am not professing religion but I am professing what each one of us does know deep down. This enemy wants our lives and families destroyed. Unless we stand up by the power of our savior and resist this we will allow his plans to work. I lost a very loving sister in law last year to prescription drugs and if you would have ask me 5 years ago to name a wonderful loving mother and Christian she would have been one of the first persons to have come to my heart. She is now dead and my wife was on the same path. My wife wanted to blame anything but the truth but once she realized the truth I think she understands that the same spirit that took her sisters life is on track to do the same to her. If we do not come around and understand we are all a product of our decisions and no one else made them for you. We were lead to believe that in taking the meds in the beginning could relieve a pain that we physically feel and in reality it hooks us. We cry from deep within as we find the destruction of our body, families, and finances. Then we are unsure of what can solve it and are unwilling to shed the problem (which has grown bigger by far than the original problem we started with) because we see no solution beyond the pills. There is a solution and he can help. We are dealing with three aspects that has been affected. Body, mind, and spirit. We cannot ignore that the body had a need that we thought we could solve and the solution we have chose has effected the mind and spirit. We are so discouraged without faith for a future and our mind is our battlefield where this war is being waged. We are given solutions from a medical institution that is hungry for our money and is no longer interested in the Individual. We are surrounded with spiritual institutions that no longer concern themselves with the soul but with your money and our minds are trying to discern the differences. And we end up with a dysfunctional family and a life with no hope and our faith is weak. The solutions is in your own heart and seek it with all you have and go through what ever pain you have to go through to end this. Find a place of refuge and surround yourselves with loved ones that truly care for you. Our creator has allowed us to live our lives our way and if we decide to destroy ourselves he will not intervene. However if we chose life he will equip us with all the right tools to overcome. Feed you bodies correctly. It is all you have. Nourish it with nutrients and love. Put your mind on the good things in life. And find a place that you can truly worship our creator and teach your children the right things in life.

[chrish1]

Hi Girlie. I hope things are going okay with you. 44 days clean today. Most days are pretty good. Weekends and days off are a bit tougher since I have more time on my hands to think about it. I haven't had much cravings for a few days. I have a 5 day weekend starting today, and I am going to have to hit some NA meetings and stay busy.

Good luck.

Chrish

[nik2002au]

quote:Originally posted by Miles

Stoddard:

Your psychobabble and puerile name-calling clearly illustrate how you are another who has bought into the biopsychiatric view of mental illness. As someone who has spent more than 20 years conducting legitimate inquiry into the myth of mental illness, I find your opinions typical of those who find some degree of comfort in feeling that there is a biologic basis for problems in living. If it makes you feel better to think that you have a “disease,” so be it – all too often, emotion rules over intellect in such discussions.

You write that “The classification of mental disorders as a disease is debatable…” It is not debatable if one accepts the medical definition of “disease.” In medicine, disease is defined as a physical lesion. The proposition that mental disorders are brain diseases is a big lie. Mental disorders are diagnoses not diseases.

You mention diabetes. Yes, it is a disease and yes, I understand how it works. What do you know about “lack of certain receptors or neurotransmitters in the brain (your words)?” Are you saying these cause mental illness? Show me the credible literature! There is absolutely no legitimate research to support your benighted allegation. Could you find credible the research that flips your argument on its head, i.e., that depressed emotional states may influence the body’s brain chemistry resulting in the measured changes among neural pathways you cite?

The medical definition of “disease” does not suit you, so you construct your own definition? Who is the arrogant one here? You write, “We are just coming into a new age of medicine where we can look at the interactioins (sic) between the mental and the physical.” Are you familiar with Nazi eugenics? Who are the “we” to whom you refer? May I assume you blindly buy into the self-serving research of pharmaceutical companies?

In the name of freedom, and particularly the freedom to be “different,” I contend that you are the elitist in this discussion, not I. Continue to believe that there is a biologic basis for all of daily living if you will – your reductionist thinking is insulting to all who hold personal freedom dear.

Miles

Dear Miles

I have read with some interest some of your postings. I was curious about a few things about you.

1. Are you a scientologist?

2. You describe as and I quote "As someone who has spent more than 20 years conducting legitimate inquiry into the myth of mental illness".
Could you please state what form this inquiry has taken, such as which university or other research bodies was this inquiry being conducted for and what position you held in any such orginisations?

3. If your inquiry wasn't as part of any such orginisation in what capacity did you undertake this research?

4. Have you ever used or abused any mood/mind altering drugs or alcohol during your life so far?

I'd appreciate your time in answering and posting your reply as I am very curious as to the background of your very strong beliefs on these issues.

Kind Regards

Nick

[boxingpen]

Sorry for doubling my post but I sort of feel alot of people might not know what Dicodine is. It's basically 60 MGs of Codeine. Anyhow, below is my first post:

Hello,

This is my first post. I've been taking various forms of Codeine for the last 6 years or so. Never in what some would consider huge quantities, but regularly nonetheless. I started with Tylenol 3's and worked my up to 4's. Normally it was 2-4 tablets a day with 2 being the norm. I'm an expat living in Thailand and I have ready access to all the codeine I need. Now I've switched up to Dicodine which is 60 mgs of codeine. I still have access to the 30 mgs tylenols but switch off between the 60's and 30's. Normally only two tablets a day, sometimes as many as 4 and sometimes I skip a day. I'd consider myself a functional addict. I want to stop and I'm now trying to taper off. I was in the hospital a year or so ago and stopped for three weeks but it seems harder now and if I don't take the pills for a few days I do get symptoms like heavy legs, irritability and flu-like feelings. I don't really know why I'm posting this but I guess I'm a bit worried my addiction will get worse and I'll go thru hellish withdrawls. BTW - I started out taking them once in a while because I liked the feeling, the buzz. I then had a serious accident about 5 years ago where I had multiple fractures and was hospitalized for nearly a month after being in a coma. This was the time when I really started using the pills more regularly. Any comments, please feel free. Thanks.

[girlie girl]

Hey Chrish. 44 days...you rock. I'm doing pretty good. I haven't had any loratabs in 8 days now. The only thing I have had is a few darvocets. I don't like them at all compared to the tabs. But I think they kind of helped with the wd's. I'm just taking this one day at a time. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving. Keep me posted. [:X]

Girlie Girl

[taynsam]

Hello everyone, I'll give you a quick run down of my vicodin addiction. I have been prescribed 60 vicodin every 2 weeks for severe TMJ pain. I've been to a specialist who said I was a candidate for shots in the jaw and did physical therapy as well. It just seemed so much easier taking a pill. I know I can manage the pain with motrin and want to try. I'm addicted to the meds and want my life back so badly! I can't believe how many people are out there who's stories sound just like mine. My day revovles around how many vic's I have. I'm so tired of sharing my life with opiates. I am happily married (17 years) and have two beautiful children. Nobody knows about my evil secret. I'm so tired of experiencing life through an opiate haze. I feel so much guilt, I lay in bed sometimes and cry and think am I in a nightmare? Am I really addicted to pain killers? I've detoxed before on my own and stayed clean for a month. I went back because I could. I haven't told my doctor yet but I know I need to come clean. I need to tell my hubby as well but I am so ashamed. I have tapered down the last week to just 2-3 a day, normally take 6-8 and always run out early. I keep thinking I'm going to order a refill and my doc will say no but that hasn't happened so far. Does anyone here have Kaiser? Anyone know how Kaiser handles getting patiends off this ****?Thanks for listening. It feels so good to talk about this. I'm so grateful all of you share your experience and are here to help and support. I read this forum everyday now, sometimes several times a day. Thanks again. Hope to hear from someone about Kaiser. Take care,taynsam

[chrish1]

Hi Girlie Girl. You are doing great! I never really liked those Darvocets either. They always just made me feel really spaced out. If they are working as a weaning tool away from loratabs (aka Vicoden) then use them while you have to. I'm really proud of you - You have done great!

Update: Today, 47th day opiate free for me.... It has not been smooth-sailing, but it is getting better all the time. There is enjoyment of life beyond painkillers - I can attest.

Good luck!

Chrish

[girlie girl]

Hey Chrish. I'm glad your doing so good. I messed up last night.... I went to a girlfriends house to visit, She had loratab/10's. I didn't know that tell I got there. I only had one, but I still feel bad. Today is a new day, so I'm going to try again. Thanks for your support....It puts a light at the end of this tunnel. [:X]

Girlie Girl

[chrish1]

Don't worry Girlie. You're still doing great. It hasn't been easy for me - I only have 47 days clean, and I still struggle some days. I couldn't have even made it this far without lots of support. For me, it has been the support of fellow recovering addicts in NA - www.na.org I've come pretty close to relapse 3 times. I've learned that I need to stay clear of OPPT (Old people, places, and things) that might lead me back to using.

Anyway, take it one day at a time, and make sure you have some kind of support system - I am here to support you no matter what....

Chrish

[taynsam]

Chrish, this is so freakin hard! Wow, I'm happy for you 47 days clean. Good for you. Keep holdin on. I'm new to this forum, I've been reading posts all day and decided to write. The support I have found on a few massage boards helps me soo much. NA must be good too.How does NA work? I wrote a note earlier, I've been taking vicodin for over a year now, 6-8 everyday except when I run out! My poor liver. I have been tapering down the last week with the hopes of calling my doctor and telling him I want to discontinue the vics forever. I want them to note in my chart to NEVER prescribe them again. If I know I can get a refill I'll do it! I want my life back and need to learn to live without those damn pills. Everything I do revolves around how many I have on hand. I always run out before my refill is due. I've dextoxed before on my own and stayed clear of the pills for a month or so. Then I got a refill and it all started again. I had NO idea so many people suffered with this. It breaks my heart reading these posts sometimes. My plan was to begin detox on Wednesday. Tell my doctor and hubby. He'll be so sad but hopefully understanding and supportive. We've been married 17 years and have 2 beautiful kids, I don't want to live with this secret any longer.I know i'll need help with the kiddos during a week of detox. That will give me 5 days then day 6 and 7 I'll have to work. Not sure what kind of condition I'll be in. But then I keep telling myself after the holidays. We have so much going on, parties, Xmas shopping, school performances,work,etc......excuses, excuses. I am full of them. I don't want to drag my butt the entire holiday, be depressed and moody, sick. Any words of encouragement, advice, support would be so appreciative. Thanks for listening everyone.Talking about it feels good and helps.
taynsam

[chrish1]

Taynsam,

I know my 47 days clean sounds like a lot, but it is only the beginning. At NA meetings, I'm the newbie, the FNG A lot of them have years of clean time. NA works by just opening up the meeting to anybody who wants to talk about their addiction and/or recovery. The basic concept is "addicts helping addicts," and it works. NA has helped me begin a new life, and now I am starting to get into the "steps," which is really where the program works miracles. I wish I could say I was an expert, but I've only been going to the meetings for about 50 days, and a lot of the NA members have years of clean time, and they can help you. Go to www.na.org , and find a meeting near you is all I can recommend. Give it a shot.

I think that is a great idea you have to come clean with your hubby. That is the first step. You never know how your hubby will react until you try. Then, you need to come up with a plan to not take painkillers, but you need to follow that plan one day at a time. I would recommend an outpatient program that you can go to for a few nights a week and NA meetings. You need to get educated on why you are addicted, and you need to get a good support system in place. Rarely do addicts get clean and stay clean without a great support system. I'm not saying that NA and Outpatient are the only things that work, but I am saying that it has worked for many other addicts, and it has kept me clean for 47 days. Without NA I would have relapsed within 2 weeks. Period. I'm not going to tell you it is going to be easy. It never is. But, I am going to tell you that you can do it, and it will be the best thing you ever did for yourself and your family. There IS enjoyment of life beyond drugs, and we don't need to remain slaves to the pills.

Anyway, I hope this helps a little bit. Good luck!

Chrish

quote:Originally posted by taynsam

Chrish, this is so freakin hard! Wow, I'm happy for you 47 days clean. Good for you. Keep holdin on. I'm new to this forum, I've been reading posts all day and decided to write. The support I have found on a few massage boards helps me soo much. NA must be good too.How does NA work? I wrote a note earlier, I've been taking vicodin for over a year now, 6-8 everyday except when I run out! My poor liver. I have been tapering down the last week with the hopes of calling my doctor and telling him I want to discontinue the vics forever. I want them to note in my chart to NEVER prescribe them again. If I know I can get a refill I'll do it! I want my life back and need to learn to live without those damn pills. Everything I do revolves around how many I have on hand. I always run out before my refill is due. I've dextoxed before on my own and stayed clear of the pills for a month or so. Then I got a refill and it all started again. I had NO idea so many people suffered with this. It breaks my heart reading these posts sometimes. My plan was to begin detox on Wednesday. Tell my doctor and hubby. He'll be so sad but hopefully understanding and supportive. We've been married 17 years and have 2 beautiful kids, I don't want to live with this secret any longer.I know i'll need help with the kiddos during a week of detox. That will give me 5 days then day 6 and 7 I'll have to work. Not sure what kind of condition I'll be in. But then I keep telling myself after the holidays. We have so much going on, parties, Xmas shopping, school performances,work,etc......excuses, excuses. I am full of them. I don't want to drag my butt the entire holiday, be depressed and moody, sick. Any words of encouragement, advice, support would be so appreciative. Thanks for listening everyone.Talking about it feels good and helps.
taynsam

[tocqueville]

i have a couple of herniated discs, which had been flaring up from time to time over the last decade. however, for the last couple of years [since i got married], instead of medicating for my pain as needed, i tried pre-empting the pain [guess i was influenced by bush]. and now i have a ten vicodins a day habit.
needless to say, i want to quit.

is it possible to reduce the dosage gradually. in the past, i have come down to 4 a day.
or
can i reduce gradually and sub simultaneously with naproxen 500 mgs
or
how tough is it to quit cold turkey

i am a 32 yr old male in good physical condition. except for the back.
and when i can i jog, which i noticed can reduce the cravings for pills.

any advice would be deeply appreciated.....thanks!