[python134r]

Sometimes it is a negative sign but one has to consider the forum and tech we use. Instant communications, wonderful but other variables related to those of us who post here sometimes or could make it difficult to post back every day for many different reason/s.

I hope and pray that things are "OK" but who knows. Its something I cannot control. I just pray for good things to happen.

[bev49]

Just go to the suboxone website or do what I did which was google "suboxone doctors" and I got a list from there.

[python134r]

Has anyone heard from her, I have not been online for a few days dealing with my own demons, I will pray for her success as I pray for all here who/m are going through what we know is virtually one of the hardest things one chooses to do in ones life.

Every day I get on my knees and say a prayer for all whom need help in regaining control of their lives and have the courage to "ask for help" from strangers whose only common situations is to stop the madness.

All have a good day

Rich G aka python134r

[jess1]

Does anyone have experience w/tramadol???

[jess1]

Is anybody awake right now???

[sisterwin2]

Originally Posted by jess1

Is anybody awake right now???

I am awake...... tramadol is a non narctic but it binds with the Mu's just like a narcotic. It is addictive and you can have withdrawl from it, though not as intense as oxycontin and so forth. Not sure what your asking, could you be more specific?

[williamgeorge]

Problems associated with pain killer addiction and abuse have experts and authorities searching for real solutions. Opioids used properly are not dangerous according to the NIH National Institute on Drug Abuse. More than 500 researchers, doctors, and interested consumers gathered on the NIH campus to discuss the growing problem of prescription drug abuse and the potential for pain killer addiction in patients with chronic pain conditions.
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williamgeorge
Texas Drug Addiction

[Aeroman]

Wow, I never knew the topic of Hydrocodone was even here. Last Monday, I went for surgery and was given Hydrocodone/APAP 5/500, take as needed. I took two pills on Monday night and then one pill twice on Tuesday. I didnt take anything on Wednesday. That evening, I couldnt sleep (I have been going through Lexapro (SSRI) withdrawals for 6 months). I couldnt sleep and I had freakin nightmares that scared the heck out of me - so freaked out I didnt want to sleep in my room. I was like somewhere else. I never touched that pain killer again. Does it stay in my system for days? I feel better now, as far as the nightmares but dang, I got restless that Thursday and it was HORRIBLE.

Just a newbie question....I am toughing it out and taking ibuprofen.

[lincrasto]

Some experts believe this can happen if you only take around six painkillers a week, but certainly if you are taking the full recommended dose every day you may get this effect.
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Linc

Washington Drug Addiction

[python134r]

Aeroman,
I do not think in three days you can catch a dependence on any of these painkillers in the small amounts you have ingested.
I'm not minimizing how you felt but 10mg hydo 1 day and 5mg the next is not enough to create a dependence much less withdrawl.
Maybe something else is going on.
I used to take zoloft for years and finally weaned myself off against the best efforts of my doctor. I have felt much better taking less of any meds other than truly must be taken.

A few years ago while coming off Heroin, I was suffering post traumatic withdrawal syndrome. The psych doc concluded that I was bipolar2 and started me on seroquel(anti psychotic). At one point I was ingesting 600mgs a day, it was terrible. I also weaned myself off those and I believe saved my life. I was a zombie, gained 70 lbs, couldn't work or do anything.

Doctors in clinical settings have agendas specific to what kind of setting it is. In my case it was clinical detox, 30 day rehab and 9 months followup.

Suboxone changed this for many, however both times I've used it for short 7 day detox such as in a clinical setting and followed up with aftercare of my choosing, instead of opiate replacement therapy which is of longer duration.

counseling and 12 step help me much, hope ya feel better

[Aeroman]

Originally Posted by python134r

Aeroman,
I do not think in three days you can catch a dependence on any of these painkillers in the small amounts you have ingested.
I'm not minimizing how you felt but 10mg hydo 1 day and 5mg the next is not enough to create a dependence much less withdrawl.
Maybe something else is going on.
I used to take zoloft for years and finally weaned myself off against the best efforts of my doctor. I have felt much better taking less of any meds other than truly must be taken.

A few years ago while coming off Heroin, I was suffering post traumatic withdrawal syndrome. The psych doc concluded that I was bipolar2 and started me on seroquel(anti psychotic). At one point I was ingesting 600mgs a day, it was terrible. I also weaned myself off those and I believe saved my life. I was a zombie, gained 70 lbs, couldn't work or do anything.

Doctors in clinical settings have agendas specific to what kind of setting it is. In my case it was clinical detox, 30 day rehab and 9 months followup.

Suboxone changed this for many, however both times I've used it for short 7 day detox such as in a clinical setting and followed up with aftercare of my choosing, instead of opiate replacement therapy which is of longer duration.

counseling and 12 step help me much, hope ya feel better

Thanks for the reply! I am feeling much better compared to when I was taking them a couple of weeks ago. Yes, I am currently going through protractive withdrawals from Lexapro. Its been 6 months since I have taken the medication and thus, I have been dealing with those symptoms as well. The painkiller I was taking just added more "fun" to the already symptoms I am dealing with. Thanks again.

[idiotboy]

I have dabbled with painkillers recreationally after a bad knee injury for the last 8 years but have always been able to keep control and do them for a few days then leave them alone for weeks or months.

Since I had kids I started doing them a little more often just because they gave me more energy and a better sense of well being. I love my kids to death but I felt like the pills just helped me deal with them (and my clean freak loads of energy all the time wife) a little easier. I was able to keep it under control still for the last 2-3 years, and I always thought to myself that it is a very good thing that I don't have easy access to them because I love them so much, that was the only thing keeping me from doing it a lot.

Just in the last about 6 months I found a guy that works near me who sells 30mg Percocets and he ALWAYS has them. I wish I never found him but I did and for about the last 3 months I've worked myself up to taking about 90mg a day.

Now I know that I have a full blown problem. My wife has the kids on a trip right now and I know that it is my golden oppurtunity to quit these things because it is WAY too hard to go through the withdrawls having to deal with them all day.

I am completely ashamed of myself for letting it come to this, spending my family's hard earned money on !@#$!@ing painkillers and they have no idea. I am on my first day of cold turkey and I feel like absolute hell, I have diarrhea, cold sweats, a nagging back ache, and I feel completely depressed. But I know what I need to do....Anyway, I feel like my problem is nothing compared to a lot of people who have posted on here, but I feel like hell nontheless. How many days of this hell feeling can I expect? Any thoughts?? Anyone???

[melinda7.5]

Hi my friend not (idiotboy)
we have all been in your shoes,Im a little over a month clean,
your looking at a few rough days. but nothing you cant handel. im sure it doesent seem like it right now.did you see the thomas recipe listed on the post,it has some tips that help you get thru this.if you cant find it i will pull it up for you.keep posting we can talk you thru this...

[idiotboy]

Thank you so much for replying...I just have zero energy whatsoever right now, pretty confident I can get through this. What is the Thomas Recipe?

[melinda7.5]

Hi friend
We gotta get you a new name LOL...
I just cant call you that.
I will pull it up in a min go to new posts and click on that you will see
it. its just some things that can help with w/d

[melinda7.5]

You can get thru this,If i can do it you can to.just take it 15 min at a time.
break it down to what ever you need to. Ill be hear to help ya with what ever i canyour not alone in this.It will get better,I promise...

[idiotboy]

The world would be a better place if everyone was like you Melinda
Thanks..

[melinda7.5]

hi friend
how ya feeling? did ya get some imodium yet,LOL, and if you can take some hot baths, it will help to.is this day 2?how many days do you have to get well,till your family gets home? keep posting it will give you the power you need to get thru this,
I was on here every hour at first,saying things like (i made it one hour)LOL
but it helped me,and everyone,just put up with me...
we are all cheering you on...

[chrish1]

I-boy,

Don't be so hard on yourself. This is a very common problem. You are not responsible for your addiction, but you are responsible for your recovery now that you have admitted it to yourself. So, don't feel guilty- just keep your eye on the solution, not the problem.

Oxycodone is the narcotic ingredient in perc, and Oxyocdone is also the main ingredient in Oxycontin. So, perc is basically the same narcotic as Oxycontin with the tylenol ingredient added. Remember, they call Oxy "Hillbilly Heroin," so it is very easy to become addicted to.

You are going to be OK on this thing. Remember, you only have to stay clean one day, TODAY. Take it one day at a time, and the days start to add up. Listen to some of the other ideas on these forums - exercise, immodium, meditation, prayer...etc are some of the suggestions. Support is a key ingredient. This generally cannot be kicked by yourself. Try meetings for support from others who have recovered. There are NA, AA, PA...etc meetings available, and they have helped me tremendously in my recovery.

Good luck.

Chrish

[idiotboy]

I'm so pissed off at myself and ashamed at what I let it get to. I honestly don't have the urge to give in and call my ex pill dealer (I erased his number out of my phone and the only way to get it again is to call my other friend who knows what I'm doing right now and he would never give it to me). I know I can't have any more.... my problem right now is that I'm so fricking depressed and hurting and can barely get out of bed that I'm wondering if I'm EVER going to feel normal again and if so how long can I expect to feel like this.

I swear I'm not ever going to swallow another biscuit again even if I break my damm neck....

[melinda7.5]

Hi Iboy
YES YES YES... you will get better,your allmost over the hadrest part.the pains will go away,and the depression will get better,
just let the time pass right now,try to watch a funny movie and get your mind in a good place,then your body will follow,
hang on, You can do this...
I truley feel the same way,I WILL NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PILL IN MY LIFE......
we are all praying for ya....

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by idiotboy

The world would be a better place if everyone was like you Melinda
Thanks..

idiotboy ... I have to agree with you.

Just hang in there and you will make it through this. You will never forget this detox and hopefully you will grow from the experience. You never have to use again. Good luck and God bless.

[idiotboy]

Reading your posts just made me break out crying, I don't cry that much but just the fact that two strangers would be on the computer helping me through this is @#$%@#$ing AMAZING to me. Thank you soooo much and God bless you...I'm so glad I looked this up right before I flushed my very last 30mg perc down the toilet

YOu know why I flushed it? Because I couldn't wait to be off those devil pills...I knew I had a hard time coming but the last pill sitting on my desk was just prolonging it.

I am going to pray for everyone who ever posted on here that they found their way out of it. This message board helps so much, I just passed 2 hours like it was nothing reading all the previous posts. I'll be on here all night!

[idiotboy]

I also can't remember the last evening that I went without at LEAST 4 drinks, usually beers, it's been at least four months, I'd say in the last year I DIDN'T drink like 5 days.

But I haven't had a drink in 4 days, and for some reason I have no craving at all for one either. Do any of you think that this could be contributing to my currently hellish withdrawls right now??

[melinda7.5]

Hi iboy
How are you doing today ?Ill be at work most of the day today,butwill try to check on you at lunch,
keep posting you are doing great!!!
have a good day!!!

[idiotboy]

Thanks Melinda,
today was a looong day, just took two tylenol pm's hope they can help me sleep, like I said my family is away they come back in a week, it would be about a thousand times harder if they were here, but I miss them dearly and feel very depressed that I've let this happen to me especially behind my families back.

It's kinda weird that I don't have any craving for a beer, in fact the thought of a beer repulses me, I'm actually looking forward to life without pills or alcohol....

Tomorrow I have to work, hopefully I can get through it OK, feeling pretty dpressed, Lethargic, and achey, I really hope I feel a little better tomorrow, I don't feel like dealing with people right now and I have to for my job

[idiotboy]

By the way I'm in Hawaii thats why I'm on here at kinda different hours (and why I just took the PM's, its only 7:30pm here

[melinda7.5]

HI
Ok,im in washington state,Ithought you had gone to bed so i left you a message for the morning.
i feel for ya.I swear i was there 30 days ago,but looking back it has gone by pretty fast,I feel great and you will to,just wait you will see.
By the time your family gets back you will be a new man.
have a good day tomorow,ttys

[idiotboy]

Hey guys Day2 of CT and I feel the same as I did yesterday, pretty depressed and worse stomach issues except I have to work today, I really hope this gets better I don't think I could live my life feeling like this, I hate to say it but if I was going to feel like this for the rest of my life I'd go right back to the biscuits...

I know It'll get better though

[Robert_325]

Originally Posted by idiotboy

Hey guys Day2 of CT and I feel the same as I did yesterday, pretty depressed and worse stomach issues except I have to work today, I really hope this gets better I don't think I could live my life feeling like this, I hate to say it but if I was going to feel like this for the rest of my life I'd go right back to the biscuits...

I know It'll get better though

The good news is it doesn't feel like this forever. If it did I would go back to using myself. I hate detox, it totally sucks. But it will start getting better in a matter of days and you will be so glad you stuck this out when it's over. Then you can live the rest of your life feeling like we are supposed to feel. Hang in there. God bless. Oh yes, if you have to detox I can't think of a better place than Hawaii. That almost makes me not feel quite so sorry for you.