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04-17-2007, 01:36 PM
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| | Addicted2long and Scared Husband Quote:
Originally Posted by Never_me . All you can do is be there to keep her comapnay and support her when she is willing to accept it ... give her , her space when she needs it ... Hot baths help ...some type of sleep aid helps Imodiam ad is needed that is obvious .... The worst part should pass in 3 to 4 days but it is still a battle after that . Help around the house as she probably feels worn out and does not have much enrgy and keep her from beating herself up ... Support is about all you can do and make sure she is a comfortable as possible ... I'm sure others will offer more advice soon... Hang in there I went through it pretty much alone maybe I was lucky to ... But at times I sure wish I had someone there to talk to if for no other reason then to take my mind of it...
Addicted2long hope you had a good day and stayed the course ... We are here for support...Your getting close to that 3 and 4 day mark hope it gets easier then... And your right what don't kill us only makes us stronger... One of my fav sayings...lol | I would like to echo everything Never_Me stated. Also, lean on us. Keep coming back and posting. It helps!
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04-17-2007, 01:51 PM
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| | clean date The way I look at it is a bit different than the others. I figured if you used you used. That doesn't neccessarily make it a bad thing, but it is a true statement. Many of us here got in trouble in the first place with this accident or that accident. Others including me were able to continue our supply with an unintentional injury or whatever. It is surprising what the body may do or how it may interpret something. I know that certainly wouldn't feel reluctant to use pain medication if I was having pain that Patmamma is having. These drugs were created for a reason. I personally though would change my clean date so I could remind myself of my true problem with pills. Not suggesting anyone change their clean date, every one looks at these things differently and they truly are different for everyone . Some people might say a clean date is when you last used, or when you last abused, or etc. It certainly is a lot less clear when the the DOC is a medication that can be truly needed at times.
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04-17-2007, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lyds For what it's worth, I have to agree with Rory. I wouldn't change your clean date. It's different this time. You're actually using the pills to control the pain and you're taking the steps to keep things in line. Pray for me. Friday I have to have a wisdom tooth taken out. I am not looking forward to this at all. | ill definitely pray for u..when i had mine taken out(4 at once)that was my first experience with vics..they only gave me a lil bit,and when that was done,i was ok..but when hubby had them,and i remembered that high,thats when the abuse started..hope all goes well! | 
04-17-2007, 03:03 PM
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| | i think i was probably sending mixed messages..when i first responded to patmamma,i said,well if u take something u will end up taking even when injury isnt an issue..but then i turn around and say its ok that u took something for the pain..i mean both statements..the difference is u recognized that u werent doing it for the high and u got rid of them before it became a problem..that took so much strength to be in front of the pills and get rid of them..trust me,i know..im proud of u,just stay strong,and dont be ashamed even if u did slip,youre only human. | 
04-17-2007, 07:06 PM
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| | Hey everyone....and thanks for weighing in on how you feel about what I am going through. Lyds, good luck on your wisdom teeth. Just plan for lots of rest....I feel like an expert on teeth injuries after I face planted into the pavement at 15 miles an hour knocking out teeth. You will be surprised at how quickly the mouth heals, that is the one good thing. Please post so we can see how you are doing. Like I said, I can maybe offer some help to you!
Rory, again, you are so supportive. I understand what Pdrx is saying with regards to my clean date, and I myself have struggled to decide what to do....but I can truly say this was not an intentional accident, I really did not want the pills anymore, and I still dont for the record.....I know there are people who are open to accidents to get meds, that is not my way at all. My problem was when I got them legitimately, I would milk it. I would never have been strong enough to flush pills, EVER! I know it is 100% different, I think the pills are only good for the very first part of your pain cycle. You cannot take them to numb your pain, I can understand that. However, we are all very different, and I respect everyone's opinion. For that reason, I dont want to mock this board by saying I was clean when I wasnt....I really try not to get too hung up on the numbers anyway, because you have to deal with each day. My day to day life is not the same as it was when I was taking the pills, I feel very liberated by this experience because now I know I am recovering without having to worry that I would make the wrong choice if faced with temptation. I am not tempted this time. I am ready to go right back to my clean life.
I am sorry to ramble.....You all are good, honest people.....
Baby Steps, where in the heck did you go?
Patmamma | 
04-17-2007, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by patmamma Hey everyone....and thanks for weighing in on how you feel about what I am going through. Lyds, good luck on your wisdom teeth. Just plan for lots of rest....I feel like an expert on teeth injuries after I face planted into the pavement at 15 miles an hour knocking out teeth. You will be surprised at how quickly the mouth heals, that is the one good thing. Please post so we can see how you are doing. Like I said, I can maybe offer some help to you!
Rory, again, you are so supportive. I understand what Pdrx is saying with regards to my clean date, and I myself have struggled to decide what to do....but I can truly say this was not an intentional accident, I really did not want the pills anymore, and I still dont for the record.....I know there are people who are open to accidents to get meds, that is not my way at all. My problem was when I got them legitimately, I would milk it. I would never have been strong enough to flush pills, EVER! I know it is 100% different, I think the pills are only good for the very first part of your pain cycle. You cannot take them to numb your pain, I can understand that. However, we are all very different, and I respect everyone's opinion. For that reason, I dont want to mock this board by saying I was clean when I wasnt....I really try not to get too hung up on the numbers anyway, because you have to deal with each day. My day to day life is not the same as it was when I was taking the pills, I feel very liberated by this experience because now I know I am recovering without having to worry that I would make the wrong choice if faced with temptation. I am not tempted this time. I am ready to go right back to my clean life.
I am sorry to ramble.....You all are good, honest people.....
Baby Steps, where in the heck did you go?
Patmamma | i understand your struggle on what to do about your clean date,only u can know that,but i have to see based on what im reading u werent intentionally seeking the drugs out.u couldnt help what happened..i understand pdx comment as well,because it could apply to someone,luckily in this case it doesnt seem like it applies to you..but even if it did,were still here for ya..i know what u mean about temptation.i had 2 refills left..i had flushed one bottle and told the pharmacy that i didnt need the other..very liberating,felt so proud of myself...glad u made it through this test.. also,wondering the same thing ,where is babysteps,hope everything is ok.. | 
04-17-2007, 08:50 PM
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| | Well I made it to work today and it went pretty good. My body still aches and I feel really tired, but mainly it's the mindgame now. I am use 2 taking pills @ EVERY break(every 2hrs) and it damn near drove me nuts. I'm very snappy and edgy...i'm feining pretty bad. I was thinkin bout gettin some nodoz/vivaran something like that but my husband says that i'd just be substituting till I got the real thing. He also threw a fit that I had taken so many excedrin tension headache(has 65mg caffiene/pill) and told me I could ask him for them if I needed some, but that I wasn't poppin a bottle/day. I know he loves me and despite being really upset w/me he only wants the best 4 me, but i'm starting 2 feel like i'm in a prison camp and he's the damn Gestopo, or back in the pen and he's the damn warden. I guess I want 2 blame some1 for how I feel so I'm "blamin" him for my mood. See it's crazy...It's not that I don't know why I do/say/feel things...it's like I wear blinders or just don't give a damn...I can honestly say I don't know which it is. Sometimes I wonder if he isn't my #1 addiction. I feel like w/out him I wouldn't/couldn't live...I'd always want him...for some reason or another I think I NEED him. I've been w/him for 14yrs(since i was 15yr) I wonder why I never get all crazy over any of my downers? I've never felt addicted 2 any of them. I'm scared 2 tell my docs about this...it's one thing for me 2 cut myself off...but coming clean w/them makes it so damn permanent. I wish my mind would stop racing.I know I'm really jumping around here, but welcome 2 my world...this is what it's always like for me. It's like I can have conversations w/myself...I can clearly see both sides, but why I always chose the "wrong" side is what has always baffled me. I can know damn good and well what the right thing 2 do is, but damnit the fun thing 2 do always wins...i have no willpower?morals?who knows? I don't want 2 go back 2 how I was b4 I started treatment w/adderral. It really has changed my life...unfortunatly i'm addicted 2 it...what does that matter though if i am going to take it for the rest of my life...I can't control how much I take so really i'm abusing it not even takin it properly...damn i confuse myself sometimes. I think I'd do damn near anything for some vic's and watch out if it's for some perc's....ooohhh sweet sweet oxycodone. I don't remember whose post it was that said they was feelin no love 4 the pills anymore...but i sure hope i get 2 that point cuz right now all i can think of is that buzz...then i try 2 remember how much pain and loss my addiction has caused&i get a reality check.i dont want 2 do that ever again. I lost everything that defined me and my life. My home, husband, kids, family, freedom, my LPN lic.,and everything I ever owned. I need 2 stay strong and it's getting hard...need some help guys...i just want 2 die...i'm tired of my ENTIRE life centered around addiction. As a child and as an adult....i want 2 run away and hide...no family,husband,kids,job,responsibility...just me,for once in my life i want 2 worry bout me and ONLY me.I want 2 be responsible 4 only myself...i know it sounds childish but it's how i feel.....tired | 
04-17-2007, 09:35 PM
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| | your truth~addicted 2long i think i speak for everyone when is say..your story is riveting..you speak from the heart..no sugar coating.. just raw emotions..i just want to re-focus you. the start of your post, you mentioned you felt better(alittle)..time is your ONLY friend~ and it does take TIME...along time actually/unfortunatley..but you did feel better today so focus on that~..hardest part is the mental..i have been off suboxone for almost 3 mos...i want to say..while on it, i was fine..felt great actually...now that im off it..im OK..but unlike most people here...im still "craving"..i feel "different" cause i still cant move on..everyday i think of pills..thats the truth...but i wanted to ask you? have you considered suboxone? i , like you have kids (that call my name 24/7.. btw)..and the sub really helps w/ w/ds in fact, there are NO w/ds..and once adjusted to the sub..i felt great....dont know if getting off it was such a good choice..i have since battled depression..and as i said, cravings. while on the sub i never thought of pills...i just didnt want to be on it forever...but maybe i jumped the gun...some people NEED to be on it long-term,,...i didnt think i was ONE of them~seems your young, sub might give you the "help" you need...just a thought..i am no way a poster child for suboxone..but it did do its job, in helping me run a house..take care of kids..and get me off of my DOC | 
04-18-2007, 03:31 AM
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| | Hey Kids!!! Hey Guys!!! I am so sorry for being MIA for so long... It has just been a very grueling past few weeks and I've tried to keep up by reading with only the best of intentions to write but work, family and a very close friend who has been having some personal problems and has kept me on the phone literally every night until sometimes 4-5am!!! And on top of that I have been in so much pain due to the cold weather, work and hip that I've been pretty miserable off and on but the pain is getting better and outside of another conference in Philly (Hey Rory Girl aren't you near Philly? If so, I'll be at the Marriott downtown) next weekend/week I should be able to get back and post here.... I hope ... because I have missed my peeps like mad!!! Thank you so very much Rory, LYDS, Pat, and Syd (Please pray for Syd... she is really going through a hard time medically) for your little comments everyday they truly have helped me to keep my head up and push forward!!! You all are so special to me and I Love You All!!! You remain in my prayers as well as the newbies here... I celebrated 3 months 4 days ago and really did a lot of reflecting over the past 2 years! How far I/We have all come!!! How proud of you all (even the ones who had to take something for pain.... but flushed the rest!!! That Rocks Pat!!!) Good Job and Keep on Rockin Guys!!! Muah! To the Newbies Especially Addicted... I am so proud of you for sticking with it!!! That took a lot of will power not to cave!!! Good Job and Hang In There!!! It does get better if it hasn't already... It is so difficult when you have needy kids... like my needy friend! Very demanding but we are such givers and compassionate that we truly set aside our own needs for others.... It really says a lot about us and I am honored to have you all as my family!!! Please keep posting while you are in these very critical early stages... That is very important. It's like ... Around here in Virginia... It's been so very sad... Heartbreaking and close to home with this tragedy.... I think about what those parents are going through and suddenly my problems seem very minor... My prayers are with the families and friends who have been affected by this. I went to Va Tech for 2 years prior to transferring to George Mason so I am quite familiar with this campus. Scared Husband... I am so proud of you for being so supportive to your friend.... Trust me when I say it is a roller coaster of emotions and as long as you don't take it personal you will do just fine... I'm so very glad we have all been lead here... I believe God led me here because it was one of the main reasons I have stayed off the pills. I know I have said it a million times but... Thanks to you all... I am so Blessed to have you guys!!! You All Rock! Lyds, Syd, Pat, NY, Lisa Girl, Dublin, Never Me, Rory Girl, Mvpt, PDX, Grimm, Kai Kai, and to all the Lurkers... As well as everyone I've missed due to delirium (so tired!) Hang in there you all... and I pray you all have an awesome day tomorrow!!! Congrats to all on every single minute, hour, day, week and or months of clean time! If you fall... just get up and keep on going... It's only a failure if you give up! I will stay tuned I promise I just wanted you all to know I was thinking about you guys and do every single day! Big Baby Steps Hugs!!! <3
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04-18-2007, 09:21 AM
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| | Thanks.. Good Morning all!
Rorvan, again, I cant thank you enough for trusting and believing in me. If I could take IBprofen 800, I would have....but since I donated a kidney, I have only tylenol to provide releif...that is when the pills are brought up again and again upon injury. I wish I could have taken Aleive or something of that nature, but again, it runs through the kidneys and that is not an option. I, too want to say how strong you must have felt about stopping your perscription and flushing your pills! That I dont think I could have done so early in the process. But, I feel very liberated by my desicion. Now, I dont have to think about what to do with them. They are just gone. Yippie!
Baby Steps! there you are! I am so glad you checked in! Thanks for the shout out....I will be back in the long time recoverers club in no time. I hate the pills now, almost like an ex-smoker would a ciggerette. I am blessed to have been tested and to see that I no longer want or need the pills in my life.
Hope you all have a great day!
Patmamma | 
04-18-2007, 09:59 AM
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| | hey patmamma,
everyone recovers in thier own way..meaning,u said u couldnt have done it earlier on..obviously i couldnt either,having gone through it a few times..not everyone gets it on thier first time trying to get clean..this sounds like its obviously your time to stay clean.and if its not,like i said,were still here.im not gonna fool myself into thinking i could never slip,but i can say right now i have no desire for the pills,and that feels so good...
babysteps,glad to see u on,will pray for syd..yes im very close to philly,upper darby to be exact..marriot in center city im assuming?sorry to hear u have been in pain,i know my husband goes through that in the cold weather due to various injuries,plus he pushes himself to hard,thinks hes he-man,lol.seems like u need a lil vacation since u have been so busy..u have been so much to so many people ,u definitely deserve to sit back and relax. | 
04-18-2007, 10:28 AM
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| | Hey Pat and Rory Girl!! Hey Girls!!! And everyone! I hope you're all enjoying this day! Pat... don't be so hard on yourself... Girl... S happens and you did the right thing! I'm so proud of you!!! Hang in there! Hey Rory... Yes I will be at the Marriott Center City... Maybe we can hook up!! I'd love to meet you!! And you are so right about that vacation girl! I have already paid for a week in North Myrtle Beach (3 bedroom condo) for August for me and my kids and grandbaby!!! We are all so excited! Is it August yet???? Well... I have to boogie kids!!! I will be back!!! I pray you all have a GREAT day today! Let me know how everyone is! Hey Lyds... How are you doing sweetie??? I have been really praying for you as well.... I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!
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04-18-2007, 10:51 AM
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| | meeting would be great! and myrtle beach sounds so nice,never been there but have heard how nice it is..actually,august is my daughters bday,and she wants to go to virginia..we used to do busch gardens,and havent gone in some time..and she was also interested in kings dominion after seeing it online..so august is vacation time for all,lol.. but with my bday coming in 2 weeks,probably going to wildwood for a night.would prefer a long trip,but its better than nothing.will be a combo of my bday,hubby and me being together for 15 years and also mothers day.so anyway,thats all in roryland,lol..have a great day
lyds,hope all is well with u..been thinking about u and your friend and what u both are going through,hope things are ok
patmamma,u know im praying for u to stay strong,u really have been doing a great job.
syd,heard ur going through something,so i will keep u in my prayers as well,not that u werent already in them
neverme-hey there,hope all is well
pdx-never spoke,but noticed your posts and hope youre doing ok
and ive really been thinkin about u addicted2long(not that im not thinking of everyone else)..as nymommy put it,your story really has moved us.as she said,the raw emotion,u arent holding anything back.that true venting really shows the agony of what one goes through,and i really feel for u.i know ive been there and felt the exact same way.i felt like u,wanted to get away from everyone,no responsibilties..i wanted to be selfish for once in my life.i didnt wanna be stuck in my room where i had been a prisoner of the w/d..i didnt want to talk to anyone.i just didnt want to talk period,took too much energy.youre right,its so tiring having your whole life centered around the addiction.it was like,at one point,i wasnt even enjoying the high because i was always trying to think when i could take the next pill,and scheduling each of the pills up to the refill day.it was on my mind 24/7..as i said before,some days i dont think about them at all,but then there are days i start to crave them.i think thats how it will be for the rest of my life.mental is always the hardest....well im glad u did ok with work,and will continue to keep u in my prayers.keep us posted,we really care about what happens to u
to anyone i missed,im sorry.i hope you are all doing well | 
04-18-2007, 11:24 AM
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| | Hey Rory! I'm 15 minutes from Kings Dominion and a half hour to 45 min. to Williamsburg Busch Gardens! If yiu need a room I can try and set up my Williamsburg Residence Inn ... Let me know. Happy Early Birthday sweetie!!! I'd love it if we got to meet! Let me know... maybe you can meet me at the hotel or something. That would be so cool!!! Virignia is a beautiful and pretty fun state! We have the mountains at our back door, Va Beach to the south, The Potomac and Chesapeake at our front door, DC to the north and amusement parks galore! LOL So much to do and see! Field trips were always great! Talk to ya later girly!
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04-18-2007, 02:14 PM
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| | Day 2 She is going through hell.... She is trying to sleep, but cant. Many bathroom trips...dry heaves....Hot & Cold Sweats....Constant scratching at her face..Biting her skin...nails or what ever she can to cope with the pain...even me. She takes many hot baths daily....I rub her down till my hands hurt to comfort her, it seems to work...she then falls asleep....And sleeps sound...She finally got some food in her system...but didnt stay there long.
Later in the day the scratching seemed to subside a little. Dry heaves remain as well as the bathroom trips. Mood swings are horribale...But expected..
She fell asleep at about Midnight & woke a little after noon....without waking up...thank god.....Not sure yet how today will go, but will let you know...
Thank you for all for your stories & support for one another. I hope within a few days , when my wife is up to it, she will read through this great forum & talk with you all. To help her when I cant...I dont know what she is going through, but may of you do...you have been there or are there now...God Bless you all.. | 
04-18-2007, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by scared husband She is going through hell.... She is trying to sleep, but cant. Many bathroom trips...dry heaves....Hot & Cold Sweats....Constant scratching at her face..Biting her skin...nails or what ever she can to cope with the pain...even me. She takes many hot baths daily....I rub her down till my hands hurt to comfort her, it seems to work...she then falls asleep....And sleeps sound...She finally got some food in her system...but didnt stay there long.
Later in the day the scratching seemed to subside a little. Dry heaves remain as well as the bathroom trips. Mood swings are horribale...But expected..
She fell asleep at about Midnight & woke a little after noon....without waking up...thank god.....Not sure yet how today will go, but will let you know...
Thank you for all for your stories & support for one another. I hope within a few days , when my wife is up to it, she will read through this great forum & talk with you all. To help her when I cant...I dont know what she is going through, but may of you do...you have been there or are there now...God Bless you all.. |
well shes lucky to have someone there to lean on,whether she acts like she wants the help or not..going through w/d u i had my moments where i was extremely clingy and wanted someone with me every second,and then in an instant it would feel like i hated everyone and everyone annoyed me to no end.the hot baths were definitely a big help.and was glad that after a few days got more than a few scattered minutes of sleep...we will definitely welcome her with open arms if she decides to come on.even if she doesnt want to post,sometimes just reading the posts on here is a help,i know this board has been such a source of comfort,advice,and actually made some friends on here.sounds like she has some great support already.true,u might not know what shes going through,but u are doing what u can,and when shes better,will truly appreciate it..keep us posted! | 
04-18-2007, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby Steps Hey Rory! I'm 15 minutes from Kings Dominion and a half hour to 45 min. to Williamsburg Busch Gardens! If yiu need a room I can try and set up my Williamsburg Residence Inn ... Let me know. Happy Early Birthday sweetie!!! I'd love it if we got to meet! Let me know... maybe you can meet me at the hotel or something. That would be so cool!!! Virignia is a beautiful and pretty fun state! We have the mountains at our back door, Va Beach to the south, The Potomac and Chesapeake at our front door, DC to the north and amusement parks galore! LOL So much to do and see! Field trips were always great! Talk to ya later girly! | thanks for the bday wishes..my daughter teases me because ill no longer be 30,ill be 31,which means im actually "in my 30s",lol.. virginia is beautiful.only went a few times to busch,but it definitely made an impression.but as i said,kings dominion looks like something she would like as well...we were thinking of va beach sometime as well.upper darby is definitely nothing like that lol..only fun field trips would be the art museum where rocky runs up the steps in his movie,lol..anyway,would love to see if we could meet up,let me know when exactly it is you will be there and ill see if its doable..would be really nice.ok,well hubby and daughter are on the way home from her karate class.my lil karate kid,lol.. talk to u later.have a good night..
goodnight to everyone else... btw,lyds,saw your bulletin,ill definitely be posting that lol | 
04-19-2007, 09:51 AM
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| | my story Hi all.
I had posted here briefly before. Things have got a lot worse. I started taking lortabs pretty regularly about 8 months ago, due to migraines. They were nearly daily. Then I had to start taking butalbital in conjunction with hydro 7.5.
December I started feeling really bad. I mean, really bad. Several trips to the ER bc of my stomach, and they found out that my gallbladder wasn't functioning hardly at all. They removed it Jan 20. I thought it was going to solve all of my problems.
Well, it didn't. I had continued pain - BUT! I had NO more headaches. It was incredible, and my quality of life vastly improved just by the absence of the headaches. But the stomach pain continued. Long story short, I had 5 more scopes, they discovered that I had a gallstone stuck in my common bile duct, then placed a stent. Then had the stent removed, still more pain. Go to a specialist, and he goes in and sees that my bile duct is nearly closed from scar tissue, and goes into the pancreas and places yet another stent there, and opens up the bile duct and places another stent. Go back ot have it removed.
Overall, my pain is a lot better, but I was on a lot of narcotics during this time. I was on Percocets at first, then they took me down to lortab 10's, now down to lortab 5s. At the very worst, to keep myself out of the ER, I had taken 60 mg of lortab a day. Twice I had a fentanyl patch on.
I have attempted to wean myself down a bit, but I am still having a little pain, and it's just hard to wean when you still hurt a bit. Yesterday I took 25 mg Hydro. Today, I will take 15. Then I am out. I have 2 darvocet. I coudln't taper as long as I wanted to - I j ust had the last stent pulled 6 days ago.
I'm terrified of the withdrawals. I have felt them before, when I had issues with my kidneys and w/d off of Percocet. I was only taking 4 a day, but I felt it. I successfully weaned down off of those, but this time don't seem to have that willpower. I don't know why.
My father is an alcoholic and addict - and is bipolar, depressed, you name it. I have been struggling with some depression, and I'm not sure if my Remeron is "pooping" out on me or not. It could be the opiates also, i realize this. I'm just scared. I've felt the physical dependence and w/d. I don't want to experience that again. But I know that I probably can't (and don't really want to) get another script, I just don't.
I don't want to c/t though. I will tell you, the doc that gave me the fentanyl patch said that it delivers a small steady basal rate dose of the med, no highs and lows and peaks of pain relief, no having to wait out the four hours before I can take more, etc. And it worked, really well. I actually felt "normal" for the first time in months.
The mroe I read, the more I wonder if I havent' messed my brain up. Like I said, I do have depression, and a little anxiety. The anxiety is the killer for me when I w/d. That and the mood swings. And given myf amily history, I just don't know what to do.
I don't know if I should try suboxone or other methods out there or try to ride this out. I have 5 children, whom need me. And a hubby that works - a lot. I need to be *here* and strong.
Does anyone have any advice? | 
04-19-2007, 01:24 PM
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| | I would see if you can wean down like you're doing andd see if you can stay off them.If that doesn't work then definately go for the suboxone.....Dave | 
04-19-2007, 05:11 PM
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| | ohmy-grain...as soon as i see someone mention kids and c/t in the same sentence..my advice is always suboxone...you will have zero w/d's..just a brief adjustment period (1 day)...if you go this route..remember less is more w/ sub..it is very difficult to come off of, but keeping your dose low from the start will help you wean off...i wish you luck! | 
04-19-2007, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nymommy ohmy-grain...as soon as i see someone mention kids and c/t in the same sentence..my advice is always suboxone...you will have zero w/d's..just a brief adjustment period (1 day)...if you go this route..remember less is more w/ sub..it is very difficult to come off of, but keeping your dose low from the start will help you wean off...i wish you luck! | I think its important to note that you can certainly have w/d's after subuxone use.
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04-19-2007, 07:20 PM
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| | pdxrx~~~no doubt..i've been thru it..not easy, but i was able to work and take care of my house (w/ a struggle..and help from my hubby)....but to go c/t w/ kids sounds really hard...especially the sleepless nites. you cant call in 'sick' when your a mom, nor can you stay in bed (or the bathroom)....dinner/lunches have to be made, and if there real young..wow i cant even imagine! | 
04-20-2007, 09:33 AM
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| | Hey everyone, Sorry I havent been posting very often, I have been dealing with horrible side effects of taking prednisone as an anti-inflammitory drug instead of the ibuprofen that most people take. My tongue swells up every morning, I feel like I am being gagged by a cloth. My cheeks turn red, I cant breath, I have had shots of adrenniline, and then I have to have shots of valium because the adrenniline flipped me out. I hoped I would be out of the woods by now, but my cheeks are red again, and I think I am about to have another issue.
I will write when this is all over. YUK!
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04-20-2007, 03:04 PM
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| | Patmamma: I am so sorry you are dealing with this right now. How awful! I am keeping you in prayer. Baby Steps: HEY. Thanks for checking in. I am sorry that you're friend has been dealing with some personal problems. I hope everything works out well and soon for her.....I also hate to hear about the pain you've been dealing with. That sucks. You know I am keeping you in prayer. Rory: Hey, girl! I see that Sangya, or however you spell it, is OUT. HA HA. I have never, ever watched an episode of American Idol, that is, until Tuesday night. I had to see what the hoopla was about. He didn't disappoint me as his performance stunk! Anyway, just thought I would throw that out there. ohmy-graine: Welcome. Thank you for sharing your story. I think what Dave said is pretty good advice. See if you can wean down like you're doing. If not, there are other alternatives. I couldn't have done c/t when my kids were small. I feel for you. Keep on posting and let us know how you're doing and what you've decided. Scared Husband: Your wife is blessed to have you! I am glad you came here to seek whatever help you could. It's hard when you don't know what your wife is feeling. Encourage her to post here if and when she is feeling up to it. It's been a life saver for me! Well all, I had my wisdom tooth out and it hurts! I told my dentist that I didn't want anything for pain. That I would just do it with Tylenol. It hasn't been fun. But, I'll be good. It's better now than it was this morning! Blessings!
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04-20-2007, 08:30 PM
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| | Help i just posted a new thread titled "Suboxone Help!!" i explained my whole situation there anyway who can give me adive i would be SO thankful i am desperate. | 
04-20-2007, 11:42 PM
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| | How much of this medication was she taking? If she could wean herself off, to a much lower dose that may help more than cold turkey. | 
04-21-2007, 04:35 AM
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| | well,today went well,but the day ended tradgicly. She contiplated sucide on many ocassions. I helped her through all her times of need......let me back track a secend......My wife reached out to another man.... right next door to my house....my neibor covered for her....Tonight we were sitting by a fire in our backyard, when she stoood up , went to the houde to use the restroom,
....she didnt come back.....she went in the back door & out the front....I have been weeping uncontrolably for over an hour....she aint coming home....I called the police to find her....they couldnt help me.....They are now on there way to my home to take a report......I am going to have my wife committed.....She repeatedly tells me how she wants to kill herself.....I need to do whatever it takes to help my wife in any way i can,...She isnt the only one going through this... I hurt more then any of you will ever know...I dont know what to do......I am so scared for my wife and me........ | 
04-21-2007, 09:21 AM
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| | I'm so sorry for all the shet you're going through.You should have her committed.After that you really need to talk to a proffessional,you've been through hell and you probably have some issues yourself.Good luck and I agree with you,do whatever it takes.....Dave | 
04-21-2007, 02:36 PM
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| | So sorry to hear the news ... I can't begin to imagine the hell your going through but after reading your posts and your concern and love for your wife. I'm sure that you will make the right choices for all concerned... Your right it is not just her going through this it involves you just a much... I hope everything works out for you and you find the happiness you deserve.
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04-22-2007, 12:29 PM
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