[sydbean]

IAMCANE ~

Boy oh boy, you are doing a hard thing. That is a high amount of Methadone to be "jumping" off cold turkey at. UGH!! Well, if you think that you have to go cold turkey and can't taper (most of us addicts can't) than I have to tell you that you probably need to throw those pills away. I know that is an unimaginable thing to most of us but I know for a fact that if you hit the worst days and there are pills in the house there is no way you are going to be able to resist. Who could, right?

One thing you really need to try to get your hands on is Clonidine. It is prescribed so that kinda sucks but it is a blood pressure med that is absolutely amazing in keeping away the restless legs w/d cause. For most that is the thing that drives us to insanity. Any time you try to lie down and rest your legs get that awful feeling behind the knees sort of. It makes you feel like you have to keep moving and kicking etc. Some lucky people (of course I get to be one of them) get it in their arms in the elbows as well as the legs. I know for sure that for me I can tolerate almost anything in terms of being sick or pain but when it comes to the restless legs/arms I am all done!! No way, no how can I stand that feeling....

Anyway, the clonidine is amazing for that. Keep up the ammodium and don't be shy when taking it. It is said that at very high levels ammodium fools the brain into thinking it is getting some sort of a narcotic and it can help take the edge off w/d.

I am sorry if I am asking the same old things again but is there a reason why you are not tapering ? If you could find a way to taper, starting at say 30mg. and take that for a week. Then take 20 for a week, then 10 for a week or maybe do the ten for two weeks then do five for two weeks and then jump off. Or something like that. I understand that if you don't have someone to hold the pills for you that would probably be very hard to do but I wanted to put it out there.

Our pal Tom did jump off at a very high dose and has done very well. Although he is a total nut job. JUST KIDDEN!!!

Hugs,
Syd

PS. Hello to everyone. I am thinking of all of you!! I just wanted to get this post out to IAMCANE asap so I will talk to ya all later tonight. I hope I am not the only one this evening!!!!
Snoogins to all!!!

[sydbean]

Okay Hate/Love you got me curious:

"i used to be a fitness trainer and after that i had a career in one of the most physically active jobs out there"

What was you career in??

Hugs,
Syd

[IAMCANE]

While tapering off sounds fantastic to me right now since that would mean that I would have some in my system, i also know better. I have tried the tapering thing many times b4 and I am just not the type of person who can do it. If I can't get "off on it" I don't have any desire for it.
I know i will start taking my normal or increased dosage either today, tomorrow or next week. That is why I have to do it cold turkey.

[tom316]

Snoogan's All! Tom is in da house!

Baby steps-Sorry i didn't get back to you sooner.Things at home are getting better.I got a job today and didn't have to interview or anything for it.Someone I went to school with hooked me up because of the whole mental melt down thing.It's good when people think you are nutz.I'm gonna have to email you but it's tuff sometimes because my wife goes to school online.She's on the computer alot.How's life treating you?Hope all is well! Snooch!Also don't beleive anything Tamm says.The whole time you were gone those crazy chicks were stocking me online.I'm still afraid to get on here sometimes!lol.

Syd- Why do I have to be the crazy one? I'm no expert on c/t from methadone I'm just a dumbass that did it!

Hate love-Holla!How have you been?

Tamm-It's time you tell the truth.The whole time baby steps was gone you were the one flirting!lol.What's going on ya crazy chick.I'll drop a line to iamcane later.

[hatelove percs]

SYD: i have said so many things about myself on here that i have done in my past that i am afraid to say because i am still going to be (hopefully) active in that career after i get done with school provided i stay clean. if you think real hard u can probably figure it out anyways.

[nymommy]

sparky~it was great to hear from you..i know you were really down for awhile...sounds like you have a plan!..i'm off sub 1 month today..it was hairy in the first week..depression, no energy.etc..and w/ kids ,house ,job...well you get the picture..i'm better and maybe ONE nite i'll sleep straight thru!!..i know what you mean bout the computer...sometimes i feel it just keeps me in this "world"...although , i know it has been the single most effective thing in my recovery..had i not found this forum, i truly think i'd still be using..so now i read bout everyones success/attempts..and smile!..stay strong...EVERYONE..i'm always reading, and i am truly proud of everyone...babysteps...your upbeat attidude is awesome!..H/L i'm not good w/ riddles...give us more clues...lisa will probably figure this out in a minute!!!..hey, KAI!

[tamara02]

hi all,Tom you poor,baby!!Ya,Babysteps we couldn't resist flirting w/Tom ,BUT ,He started it!!!lol,Great you got that job,kiddo,and I'm also glads you're feeling alot better I can tell,H/L and Syd I'll hang out w/ya'll tonite,how about you ,too babysteps?? Hi !!Nymommy,Sparky nice to see your names in here,hope ALL is well!!I need to clean up a few things ,real quik and i'll be right back,Tamm..Tom,Be Good or I'll tell on you!![}]Tamm

[tamara02]

hi guys ,this is the 3rd time I posted and It disappeared ,I will try later,H/L and Syd Ill hang out w/ya'll tonite,how abt u baby steps??AND Babysteps ,Ya it was us flirting w/tom ,Couldn't help it,But he started it,Tom you lil chicken,you're not a fraid to post,Come on we'll quit stalking you,ok!!got to finish cleaning the mutt pen,then I'll be back.I did put them out on the back porch today it was nice and warm,I would leave them out ,but its gonna rain,Later tamm,Bye Tom

[tom316]

Tamm-the bad thing is that while your cleaning up the pen you can't help but think what I'll post next!Ya stalker!lol!!!!! I do feel better life seems to be getting better but yesterday sucked.I had to go to the hospital to have my left arm checked out.I had cubital tunnel surgery 11 years ago on it and now I might have to have it fixed again.It hurts like hell!!!!I hurt it carrying furniture around upstairs by myself like a dumbass.My left hand is doing the claw thing and hurting and so is my elbow.I'll try to be on later so that you can get your fix!lmfao!take it easy.By the way baby steps knows how crazy you chicks are and she knows the truth when she hears it!lol.Snooch!

[hatelove percs]

ok, i will really go out on a limb here, just please don't judge and don't anyone be uncomfortable please please please!!!!!!!!!!!!! most of you i have posted with quite awhile now so u know me pretty well i guess. just keep in mind that i am proof this can happen to anyone. some of u already know. this is really truly a leap of faith to tell you guys this...i okay,....deep breath deep breath....i am a police officer. yep. it is true. i am not working now of course. but i was. then it was to much. the addiction was to much and was dangerous to myself and others. so i hung it up until i could conquer it for good. please please don't be afraid to post anything because of me or judge me for anything i have done please because i am the same person. this sickness does not descriminate.

[nymommy]

H/L if anything i have MORE respect for you!!!!!!

[hatelove percs]

wow, thanks NY! i really wanted to tell you guys cause it is something i worked sooooooooo hard for but i feel like such a failure at because of the addiction. it has just been such an unbelievably hard of the whole entire situation. every time i failed it was just such a blow because i felt like i was letting down not only myself, my children, but also the oath of office i promised to keep.

[nymommy]

h/l..i feel i've let my kids down everyday, and although they dont know..I KNOW...and feeling like you let your kids down, well there is no feeling worse than that!!!!!!..you are a brave woman..thanks for your honesty..this disease touches EVERYONE....

[tamara02]

Hey,H/L ,Even if you were a state supreme Judge ,I'd still talk to you the same way ,It dosen't change anything,Heck its cool and as far as being worried what we say,there is nothing to worry abt,I think I told you my lil Sis is a cop w/Jax,Fl. city,she is so tired of chasing crackhead ************s,all day long and fighting some of them,my other Sis is w/st.johns county Sheriff's dept.she more like the Barney fife type,my lil sis is going back to school so she can get off the streets its not worth it,she says.and Barney Fife.lol sh'e thinking abt selling real Estate in Melbourne,Fl.I think she's in trouble for smashing up to many police cars,lol..Hey Tom can't get us in trouble for stalking him,can he??lol,Tamm,and you are right addiction can happen to anyone!!!!close minded people are the ones that think oh,its just happens to homeless people and crazy people,well I bet you Hillary Clinton is addicted to something!!can't stand her..she's so stuck up.It would suck if she ran for Prez and won....I'd rather csee condelezza Rice up there ,she's a hell of alot smarter and prettier,anyways ,,,,,,Nymommy,Your off one month from the sub,Thats great !!! I;m down to 8mgs a day ,,,slowly but shurley...hope everyone else is doing great!!! tamm

[Baby Steps]

quote:Originally posted by IAMCANE

While tapering off sounds fantastic to me right now since that would mean that I would have some in my system, i also know better. I have tried the tapering thing many times b4 and I am just not the type of person who can do it. If I can't get "off on it" I don't have any desire for it.
I know i will start taking my normal or increased dosage either today, tomorrow or next week. That is why I have to do it cold turkey.

Ok... all you guys seem to post away when I'm away workin!!! What's up with that...HUH??? Then when I'm posting and waiting and waiting for some kind of response ... nope nada... nothing!!! That's it I quit! Nah... just kidding... really! I am. I will be on late tonight my sistas Tamm, HL, and SYD and My Tom too if he's gonna be around for sure... and girls... leave Tom alone! You know you're stalking him... LOL LOL JK

Okay, now seriously... CANE... I'm terribly sorry you had a bad afternoon. Were you not able to kick out early? I only say this because you're not just coming off of Vics, Morphine, oxy's or Percs.... No my friend... you are jumping off one of the most powerful, hardest drugs out there!!! And a very high dose at that. My suggestion is only because your body needs rest and nutrients and protein... and lots of water. But like everyone on here has said... although Tom'shumbleness won't allow him to talk like a trooper or hero... HE IS in my eyes because he did jump off of a very high dose of Meth! As he tells it ... it was no cake walk but he was THROUGH! It had driven him to trying to OD on sleeping pills and trust me he took enough to kill a freakin HORSE but he survived!!! It was then he realized he was here to LIVE not DIE!!! And knew his affair with meth was over!! He is by far the best to give you the low down on what to expect... and what you should take for relief etc... but symptoms are symptoms and many can be curbed by many of the things we've mentioned on here but followed by plenty of staying in bed... I don't mean you'll sleep but just don't move... get your laptop if you have one and tune it in to this forum and just read read read read and post if you can. It was my solidarity!!!!

I am just so concerned for you and really am praying especially for you! I just don't want you to put your body through any more than it's already going through physically. It's not good for your whole body.

TOM... am I right? Or am I giving the wrong advice? Please correct me if I'm wrong quickly so Cane is not misled by me.

Cane... Please try to stay in touch even if all you post is... HEY ALL I'm ON DAY such and such and I'm ok...

Ok?

You are truly in my thoughts and prayers and my heart goes out to you!! I am so very proud of you for taking this step and sticking with it!!!! I really am!!!



Hugz,

Baby Steps

Clean Date 01/12/07

[Baby Steps]

Huhmmm... Hey Tammy Baby... I see the Ala. is comin out of ya der gurl.... but ya might wanna take the N out of the igger OK? Peace out girlfriend!! LOL

Hugz,

Baby Steps

Clean Date 01/12/07

[tamara02]

hey babysteps,oops!!!!the redneck is slippin out off me,sorry.Tamm

[tamara02]

Hey girl are we getting ready to be closed down for a while?I read what it said at the top of the forum ,but still posted,I 'm really not a redneck I jst live w/one!!!lol..plus I had to relax alil,my lil fela went to bed early,the old man is probably croakin in his recliner w/the remote in his hand,lol..The 16 yr old ,going on 21 is off to the mall and dinner w/ a girl,I can not keep up w/ the names he has so many friends that are girls,they all love him.Well if by chance we will not be able to post We'll e-mail eachother,or call me,Take care,H/L you out there....I was off reading posts over at you know where,sweet is out and abr.shes behavin,right now,well anyways,lets see if this goes thru,Oh ,Thomas,are U still out there????Stay out of trouble and do not disappear from us,ok!! I think I will go have a piece of new york stlye cheesecake w/strawberries and maybe a lil cool whip...any body want a piece I buy a whole big cake,precut at Walmart for around 20$,its delicious and very rich and fattening,,,Later tamm

[Baby Steps]

Hey girl I'm here.... yeah I got the same message and was like... OH NO!!! I still have to respond to so many of my pals tonight you can't take it down!!! So whew... we're back up... I have to run for a sec and finish a report online but will be back in a sec ok... and yeah of course I want a piece.... no... I want half the cake!!!! MMMMM that just sounds so good!!! Love ya girl!!!

And NY Mommy You are such a sweetheart! Your words made my day... Thank you!!! Actually all the kind words everyone says are so awesome and I want to Thank Each and Every one of you!!!! You all make my day!!!!! Oh... and YOU ALL ROCK!!!!

NY.... You are the amazing one!!! Off sub for a month! OMG!!!! You are such an inspiration for so many!!! I don't think you realize your impact here but WE do!!!! Luv Ya!!!! [8D]

Hugz,

Baby Steps

Clean Date 01/12/07

[tom316]

Tom is in the hizzy!!!!!!Snoogan's mo fo's!

Tamm-Wow!Not only are you an online stalker you also no how to hurt someone's feelings.I'm polish and also african american.There is no place for that type of language on this forum or this world period!gotcha!lol.Make sure you get back on here and get your "Tom Fix" You little stalker!lol

Baby steps- what's up? I really don't know what to tell Cane.He seems to be doing it.There's no easy way around methadone w/d.I know it lasts longer than pain pill w/d.It's all about won't power!I won't use anymore. The worse thing was the pain that my body was trying to trick me with.It had to be some of the worst pain I/ve been in but now all the other pains that I took pills for really aren't that bad.You just have to take it a day,minute,second at a time whatever works.Remember what we spoke about in one of our first emails? This forum is giving me alot of info for that project.The only thing is at this time I'm not in the right frame of mind yet to sit down and do it.I got the job with the magazine merchandising company so I better get my head and ass in gear to start and finish that project.You'll get the first one b4 anyone else sees it.Keep up the good work on staying clean.Rock on chick!Talk to ya later.

Hate Love-I have some parking tickets can a brother get some help?lol.You don't have to worry about the whole Johnny Law thing.You're still the same person you've always been.If anybody gives you a hard time about it I'll find them and beat their ass!Nuff said!Hang in and get ready for the cop jokes!lol.

Syd-Where the hell are you at? I think your cheating on all of us with another forum.Aren't you? What did we do wrong? We'll change we promise.lmfao.Hit me back when you get a chance!Snooch.

[tom316]

I almost forgot! Who's on my space? I am,I am.Display name is-Duan Juan Dela Nooch.My profile pic is Mr.Bean in his underwear.Also the layout is Jay and Silent Bob and my Headline is Snoogan's.Hit me with an add to friends and a message to let me know who it is.The only reason I ask for the message is because of all the hacking pricks on there.I hope to see all of you on there.Also Myspace has a new IM program that looks pretty decent.Snooch!

[tamara02]

Tom Or is it Uncle Tom?/You are so frickin funny,I just cant stop laughing ,Im gonna pee my pants,just kiddin.. Polish and Igger???I got to get on that my space and ck.you out,And I'm sure I did not hurt your feelings...Did I,LOLOLol,Tamm...I know who you are and I know what you did!!!!! I'll be watchin you,Tom,I might be right behind you,BOO!!!lol,Tammski/jones/smith/Black/

[tamara02]

Hi! H?l can you get me a name and add.to go w/ a Tag No.I got.(real cute guy)...Just kiddin!! love ya ,tamm.You know My sisters and I would sit there and laugh our asses of telling stories abt.my barney Fyfe sister,we would have tears in our eyes from laughing,then my polish lil mother,would put her 2 cents worth in ,part english,part polish, She is so dang funny,we would laugh for what seemed like hours,sorry,it was fun reminishing,I think that's how its spelled.Syd are you out there??any one else lurking ,come on and say hello,I promise to be nice,Tamm

[tom316]

Tamm-Do you have a myspce profile?If not set that sh*t up!You might have to search and put in Tom and narrow it down with zip code 15466.

[Baby Steps]

Hey Tom... I can't pull that name up under search

You Rock and I can't wait for my copy fo sho!!! I am so waiting and know it won't be long!!! CONGRATS ON THE NEW JOB!!! I'm so happy for you!!!

Hugz,

Baby Steps

Clean Date 01/12/07

[Baby Steps]

Found Ya Schnoogins... I've requested a friendship w/you! LOL

Hugz,

Baby Steps

Clean Date 01/12/07

[tamara02]

Hey ,Tom Ive got one just have to find it,its been so long since I went on it ,my son is on it ,Ill ask him to pull me up and find out my passwd or whatever, I'm doing to go see if anything good is on tv for a minute,this chair is making my body sore,Tamm

[Baby Steps]

Oh My Big Bill has a sick sense of humor!!! LOL Who is this??? I think you should put your pic up or change your diaper!!! Ahahahahaha I Luv You Tom... You're CRAZY

Hugz,

Baby Steps

Clean Date 01/12/07

[Baby Steps]

Hey Tamm... you're funny girl!!! Too Much! Instead of tracking down a tag all you have to do is wink and roll down your window and scream out "Whoa... Your Hot!!!" and he'll ask for your number!!! LOL

Hugz,

Baby Steps

Clean Date 01/12/07

[tom316]

Baby steps-See if you can follow this story.Big Bill is my brother who I only met last year.I have an older sister that is 12 years older and Bill is 10 years older.My sister Marcy & I grew up together but neither of us knew about Bill.He was givin up for adoption by our mother when he was a baby.We found out about him 16 years ago.When I got in touch with him he knew he had an older sister somewhere but had no clue about me.Boy was he shocked!What's crazy is he grew up 10 minutes from us.Our mom knew his family b4 the adoption so that she would still know how he was doing.There's alot more but that's it in a nut shell.We try to out do each other with the comments.I guess it's our way of catching up for all those lost years.We're a bunch of knuckle heads.