[tamara02]

Goodmorn,all,or is it afternoon,I stayed up really late,so I slept in,H/L Dont worry I wont leave w/o/ you,Tamm Thanks Lori.

[tamara02]

Hi,Uncle Nasty,and where is Tom ,I think he's still Painting his house,lol, Uncle nasty,Remember,Quualudes...They were my favorite.Tamm

[tamara02]

Weeeelll,,,Unclenasty,My post to you jumped up on top of yours,how weird,lol,Tamm[8D]

[tamara02]

Hi Uncle,I wrote you a post but its back over at page 309,,These computers act so touchy,Tamm

[unclenasty93]

Tom,


Thanks for the response! I figured that is what you'd say about methadone. All anyone ever says about that drug is how awful it is. I wonder why it is even used if sooooo many people say it is terrible stuff?? I am on dilaudid now and have been for 2.5 years. I was shown how to crush it up and shoot it by an using buddy, and that was all she wrote! I have been addicted to opiates for the better part of a decade. Prior to this last couple years with the dilaudid I was on percocet and before that vicodin. I have tried every opiate that exists except heroin. I have been in and out of rehab and detox and outpatient groups, what a mess!! I was clean for a long time in 2001 and 2002, then relapsed after a surgery. The addiction I have for i.v. dilaudid is sooooo much more powerful than it ever was with percs or vics. All I can tell people is stay the hell away from the needle!!!!! What would you think about my going on methadone for a short time(1 to 3 months) to use it as a taper med? I have heard that it isn't that bad if you are on it for a shorter amount of time and you keep the dosing relatively low. What is your opinion?? Thanks for the help brother!! mike.

[tamara02]

I think I know why they do that ,its the time differences,I posted three times after unclenasty,The times on the posts are off,says I posted before unclenasty's post ,Tamm

[tamara02]

Hi H/L I left you a couple of posts over at "First".abt all that porn stuff,and wrote you a line abt your e-mail,Tamm

[hatelove percs]

UNCLENASTY: i for one, think anything is better than the needle because of all the possiblities for something to go wrong. so many. an abcess is not a fun thing, niether is hitting a nerve and not being able to move your hand for two or three days. and those are just a couple minor things that happen. staph infections, even death, not to mention what can happen to your veins. well, soon u won't have any. you just won't. i would think the i would see about the methadone because nothing is more terrible than what is going on now, ya know? i had a summer of "experimentation" with needles and cocaine once and once i almost o.d.'d and once i got a horrid abcess then i decided enough was enough and haven't touched it again, but its just not my DOC. and this was years ago.

[sydbean]

Well, Hello to everyone!! We had a snow storm yesterday and as I was walking in my house with the groceries I just bought the lights went out. So, I put the stuff away by candle light thinking the lights would be coming on any minute...Well, I was wrong. I ended up going to bed with them still out. It ended up being about five hours with no electricity!!!

UNCLENASTY: If you don't mind I thought I would chime in on my thoughts of you using Methadone to get off of your d.o.c. Honestly I think it is never a good idea to use one drug in an attempt to get off of another especially when the the drug you are using is stronger than the one you are trying to quit!! Does that make sense? Even though your intentions may be good you have to keep in mind that you are an addict and what I see in your future if you choose to try the Methadone....(please don't take offense I am saying this from experience and because I care!!) what I see is you posting on this forum saying that you tried Methadone to get off your d.o.c. and now you are on Methadone and shooting it up and wishing you had just quit when you were only on the dilaudid!!!!

Kai: I really feel for you. The restless legs is the killer for me. I could go cold turkey and put up with any symptom. Anything OTHER than the restless legs. And of course I also have to get it in my elbows every time. It is the number ONE thing that brings me to my breaking point. UGH!! I hope it passes for you. I can understand your desire to be totally pill free but maybe you should let the restless legs resolve and then taper off of the Ambien??? Just a thought!!

Tam: How crazy has that been over with our best pal Sweetchikkk. LOL!! Talk about someone who has no idea how they come off to people. I really think she has no clue that she is being so damn rude. I wonder if she does that in her every day life? Needless to say no matter what this chikkk has a short fuse...to say the least!! First she says she is all done the forum and she is leaving and when I say "hey not a bad idea, that would resolve everything" She has to come back and say "never mind I am not leaving" LOL. I think there may be more than one personality floating around in her noggin!!! LOL

BabySteps: Sounds like you are really have a tough time. I know it must totally suck to be trying so hard to stay clean and then on top of that to have a lot of pain. I hope it passes soon for you!! Just remember no matter how your pain is feeling NOTHING is as bad as that first few days of severe withdrawal...right? RIGHT!! Keep your chin up sista!!!!

Cominghome: I just wanted to tell you that you should talk about, and be proud of staying clean for 11 months once. That is a wonderful reminder that you CAN do it!! You can beat this thing. There are plenty of people that are dreaming of becoming clean that have only ever made it 48 hours. you are so right and entitled to bring it up every single day if you want. You can beat this thing!!!

Tom: Whats up ?? Did you fall into one of your paint buckets? Is that why we haven't heard from you a lot?? Don't you love us any more?? Maybe he has run off to Canada to have a sex change and finally adopt his alter ego "tina" 100%. We won't judge you Tom...I mean Tina. We will support you no matter what!! LOL!! I'm just kidden'!! Hugs TOM!!!!

And Hello and HUGS to all you other fruit loops that I didn't mention...I am getting typing cramps!! SO, so long for now!!

Hugs,
Suzie

[hatelove percs]

hi
syd girl. hows things? TAM and B-STEPS: i have drawn some conclusions. the wierdo, i believe is actually pretty smart. he must just be being driven insane by to much school work. lol. anyway, i believe he lives in manhattan and goes to the Rochester college studying computer sciences, possibly physics also. this is a community college, so plenty of time to use their computer. boy he has access to more computers that anyone in the world. anywhere the subway goes, baby. well, new york is fulla wierdos. no wonder that time he said he lived in california. first thing new yorkers say (dumb ones) always pick opposite shore. ah well, anywhoo what a freak. i was bored as heck. if he starts up again i will find out exactly where his nasty lil b**t is sitting and have the college administrator pick him up by the scruff of the neck and wring it. hey, one of you guys print a page of that **** will ya? and anything else he puts in cause my printer is broken.

[ComingHome]

Baby Steps, thanks for your support.

Tamm, not to discourage you, but be prepared when the urge comes back (and it always does). I hated the pills for many months, and they told me that the urge would come back. I thought they were crazy. Then, one day (after 11 months clean), the urge came back, and it came back unbearably strong. I wasn't prepared for it. So, please believe me when I tell you that the urge WILL come back. I've talked to dozens of people who quit, and they all said it came back at one point. You are doing awesome right now though. I just wanted to give you that bit of caution based on my experience and the experience of many others. GOOD LUCK! :-)

ComingHome

There is ALWAYS hope

[hatelove percs]

COMING HOME: u are so right about the urge coming back in ways u can't begin to expect. i didn't even consider the fact that methadone could be used iv. good grief we addicts will think of everything won't we? u wouldn't believe the rediculous things i have done![B)] well, i have six days now. last time i made it eight. time before thirty, before that three months. i am planning on this being the last time because i am beginning to feel lousy when i am on the percs instead of good, i can't get high, only tired, and i don't get the up feeling anymore, only lethargic. so there just isn't any reason to take them anyway. i still have that craving that i know the first few would give me though, but try each time to think it through. okay, can you go from using iv to using pill form as a first step? or even as a middle jump, smooshing them and snorting them as a step between iv and by mouth? then when u successfully have by mouth start tapering down. or what about the sub stuff??

[hatelove percs]

TAMM; our little friend is back i guess he read i was gonna find out where he was. awwwwwwwwwww. get your printer ready.

[tamara02]

Hi Girls,Syd,H/L,Lori And Tina!!! Whats shakin'lol,H/L my Printer is out of ink, Hi Kia:Sorry you're legs hurt so much,its so aggravating,Im gonna try those vitamins my doc told me to buy,The potassum andmagnesium ones,I told you abt.earlier,anyways One night nothing I di helped ,I went looking thru the medicine cabinet and found some smelly IcyCold and rubbed my calves with it really good and you know what !! I got some relief,The stuff actually helped relieve the aches,I got it at the Dollar General for a buck,Try it ,might help,,,,Syd you read her post where her mother is a skitzo and bi-polar and I dont know what else,apparently sweetchikk went from foster home to foster home ,because of her mother not being able to care for her,its pretty sad ,actually,The split personality theory sounds abt right,its the way she writes things ,they all end with something negetive,Major emotional issues for sure,lots of built up hostility.anyways Lori Im sorry you're not feeling well,H/L did you read my post on that other site where all the porno **** is? your pic were great ,your horse is beautiful,love the baby(doggie)your girls are beautiful,hey you and lori kind of favor alil.,,,,,HEY<COMINGHOME>>>Please don't leave us, BOBBY you,too!!!....Well I guess TOM is M-I-A,Hope not T-I-N-A,,lol,Maybe he did fall into that big bucket of paint,Heck,he's probably up on his ROOF re-flashing his Chimney or somthing,lololol.Love You guys,,,

[hatelove percs]

i am sooooooooo wanting energy. i cannot get outta bed. i am resulting in picking fights with the fruit cake for something entertaining[}] sad so sad. i drank two redbulls and started to doze off!! i hope b-steps is feeling better, and everyone who has restless legs is also good. i would send u some clonidine if i could. u know what i wonder just how much of all of this stuff is just in our minds-power of suggestion so to speak. if someone gave me something and told me it would take away all my symptoms i wonder to what degree it would work? well i gotta go dry my hair (again)

[ButterflyNbama]

quote:Originally posted by unclenasty93

tom316:

hey there. I was wondering if I could get your opinion on methadone. I am considering going on it, hopefully for a short amount of time, just to use it as a taper/detox med rather than a maintenence one. I have heard so many negative things about it and I am a bit apprehensive as a result. I have also heard, though, that if one is on it for a shorter amount of time that it isn't all that difficult to stop. I am using dilaudid right now, crushing them up and shooting them. I am using about 20 4mg pills a day. What do you think about my using methadone for say, 1 to 3 months? What do you think about methadone in general? How does it make you feel? Does it keep you satisfied enough that you don't have a lot of cravings? How do you feel physically all around while on it? Any answers to my questions and other info or opinions you have would be much appreciated! Thanks dog! mike.

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[tamara02]

Butterfly,what ever you're doing its messing up the posts and making them hard to read,thanks,Tamm

[tamara02]

H/L What did you find out abt the weirdo???We gotta get him if he has all this access to college computers,I sent 02bacs an e-mail,He got him stopped from posting from his home computer,I think he can get this rat,Tamm

[ButterflyNbama]

Hey [u]</u>Uncleanasty93[u]</u>, I've been off Methadone & clean since May of '06. I can promise you that no matter what opiate is your "thing", you will not have it easier coming off of Methadone than the opiate. I was on Methadone for 2yrs. & it took me a whole month & a half of withdrawals & everything that goes with it to finally have the Methadone out of my system. When ur on it you gain weight. I was 130lbs. before I went into the clinic, but came out 25lbs. heavier & it wasn't because I was eating more or anything like that. It was because it truly messes w/ur hormones. When I was detoxing, I couldn't eat ANYTHING for a whole month. When ur on dones u also get to where u start having problems urinating, meaning it gets hard to go & u really have to push it out. U also get to where u can't have bowel movements, u have to take laxatives or xtra fiber. So, when I was going through w/drawals u go through the total opposite. To this day my body still has not gotten back to normal. But, with that said if ur having problems getting off ur "thing" by urself & feel like u need a structured environment to keep tabs on u & also feel u need some moral support from others who are going through the same thing, I would so u should definitely go for it. Just know though that to say ur going just to help you detox for a few months is not very rational. Methadone is synthetic heroine & is the toughest drug to come off of. That's not just what I think, it's from experiencing it myself & also researching methadone w/drawals before I actually started to make myself detox. It's the only drug that the government can legally addict u to. Once u get on it it will be extremely hard to come off of. I never got a "high" from the methadone, so if ur thinking what alot of people do that's it's just going to come & take the place of ur usual, u'll be greatly disappointed. It is also very expensive. I live in Tuscaloosa, Alabama & at our clinic it's $11 a day & the hrs. that they're open really stink so if u dont get there right on time ur out of luck. Ive actually was running up to the door as the secretary looked at me right in the eyes & locked the door on me. If u get a chance to call them to let them know ur late, u have to pay $20 for every minute ur late. So, really think it through. If u feel like u definitely need some helpful influence, I would say it's surely going to be ur best bet. Just know that u will be going from being addicted to one drug to being addicted to another. [:X]ButterflyNbama[:X]

[Gandhi000]

Hi,I first saw this message board one week ago, and thats when I realized that I needed to finally get myself off of the pain killers I was addicted to. I'm sure many of you have had a similar experience that I had. I started taking pain killers to ease back pain about a year ago, and it worked very well. After my back felt better, I just kept taking the drugs, because... well, I felt a hell of a lot better when I took them. After a few months I became severely dependent. Nothing mattered unless I had the pills. I am in school and worked full-time and the days were just awful unless I had the pills. Finally, after the New Year I knew that I had to get off of them. My wife and I are going to have a baby and I knew that now is the time to stop, cold turkey. So, a week ago from yesterday was my first day without Norco poisoning my body. It sucked, really bad. I was shaking, sweating, not sleeping and had really bad diarhea. But worst of all, I was so restless. Everything would make me freak out and worry, even the stupidest things. The first two days seamed like months. I spent most of them walking around the house- trying to calm down and just fall asleep. I had to take tons of over the counter sleeping aids to even sleep for a few hours. It was hell. Then, last Monday, I actually had a pretty good day. I was able to do stuff and not worry about other things. Simple, mundane things that seamed impossible during the two previous days came easier. On Tuesday, I was able to not think about the pills at all. My previous goals and desires came back. I started to feel like I had before I became an addict. It was so releiving.

Now, eight days later I feel liberated. The past nine months or so seam like such a blur, and that saddens me. I hardly even remember the things that I did, the conversations I had, and the people I was with. I was a different person when I was addicted. If you are addicted now and are wanting to stop- DO IT NOW! Nothing can be more important. You forget what life is all about when you are under the influence of drugs. I no I am new here and I'm not even sure if I'll come back- but, it was this message forum that made me stop the pills. I read a few posts and was encouraged. It was helpful to know that other people had been through it. It was helpful to know what the withdrawl symptoms would be- so I knew I wasn't going crazy and that they would not last. They don't last. They suck- but it is so worth it. I don't miss the pills at all. I am back in life again, and its great.

Godspeed-

ER

[Baby Steps]

ER... Let me be the first to say Thank you for sharing that story with us and those who are lurking and just looking for that shred of hope that it won't hurt forever! I was a lurker and it was this board that did exactly what you said! The bonus is I have met the most wonderful non judgemental kind hearted crazy people that I would never trade for anything. I still need this board and who knows I may be a lifer but it's better than living in Hell.

Your story Will bring hope and be an inspiration to all who are or have read it and again I thank you. I am so very proud of your decision and for sticking with it. Please hang in there as it appear you have way too much to lose if you don't. There will be mental games as you know but since you have read this you already know the truth. So I pray you stay strong and please don't be a stranger. There are people who will need you from time to time to remind them as the pages turn your story will fade so please keep it real and fresh.

Peace and God Bless You and your family.

Hugz,

Baby Steps

Clean Date 01/12/07

[hatelove percs]

GHANDI: i love hearing stories such as yours as i end day six of detox. it sure gives me hope for the light at the end of the tunnel. well, if i force myself to get a shower and go out i seem to pick up a bit of energy but doing that is like moving a mountain. i keep having bad things happen to me every time i turn around!!!! the fight with my teenager, the cancer thing, now there seems to be a problem in town because this girl my daughter knows spent the nite hear few weeks ago. i was asleep and a few more kids came over, i woke up and chased them out b/c it was too loud. well, come to find out this girl and a couple boys that came over snuck into my alcohol, and there really wasn't hardly anything, so someone must have had some. this girl i guess snuck out in the middle of the night and met one of those boys and "did the deed" and her parents found out. fearing the trouble she was going to be in she said he took advantage of her b/c she was drunk and she got drunk at my house! oh my gosh. i am going to lose whats left of my career and go to jail. believe me this is a prosecutable offense even though i did not give her permission to take the alcohol or know she did it. it is child endangerment because i didnt lock up my booze. oh boy u can't win these days.

[Baby Steps]

OMG HL!!! That's terrible!!! But don't they literally need to prove they got it from your house? I had a friend who's daughters friend tried the same BS and they couldn't do anything about it because she said she didn't have any liquor in the house and the kid was lting. Her word against the kid. I think you should first off deny there was any liquor in your house right now. I am in agreement with you, they had it before they got to your house. Stay strong sweetie! You'll get through this too. I am just so sorry!

Hugz,

Baby Steps

Clean Date 01/12/07

[lyds]

Ghandi: Yay for you! Your story is so much like mine! It was reading the posts on this board that helped me know I wasn't dying or going crazy. I read the posts over and over and over for strength. It's funny how life works at times, isn't it?

I, too, am glad you shared your story. I haven't been here long and I don't know anyone that posts here well at all, but you know what? I owe them all so much. By coming here and sharing their stories, they gave me what I just didn't think I was ever going to have: HOPE.

God's blessings to you, your wife, and the baby on the way!

Lyds

[tamara02]

Hi,Girls,Just got home for pet depot and walmart,it is soooo cold outside tonite,Ok,,Tell, What did I miss,w/the weirdo,anything? Oh! Hello there ghandiooo,Wow,you should be so proud of yourself,and Dosen't it feel good ,Not depending on these lil devil pills,Such a weight lifted off your shoulders,congrats,!!!!!H/L I'd go w/ what babysteps suggested,for sure ,That;s a bunch of C*R*A*P!!I spent 30$ on 1 bag of dog food abt.30lb.Ithink,2 cans of special dog food and some of that mothers replacement milk,just for the momma dog to eat,cause these piggies are wearing her out..then ran over to walmartand got a few things ,another 65$,I barely got anything and there goes 100$ bill.Tamm

[lyds]

Tamm: My husband and I grocery shopped at Wal Mart today. Now, keep in mind that we had just grocery shopped a week before. So, we didn't need all that much, right? Then tell me why we spent $145! It was WILD. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the total. It is flipping robbery, I tell ya!

Hey, believe it or not, it's cold down here in South Alabama, too. We just didn't get any of the white stuff like you did. I told my husband about you hanging a small strand of twinkle lights the night it began to snow. I was so envious!

[tamara02]

Hi LYDS ,How are you doing this evening???Ya its nuts to spend that much money and have barely anything to show for it,,Ya we had fun the other nite when it had snowed.You know I wonder where all our guys are tonite,they are not posting as much as they have been,I miss their humor,anyways maybe they will come around soon,Take care ,Tamm Ps I bet you have a wonderful husband,dont you???I can tell,

[tamara02]

Hi H/L ,do you know if the parents went down to the police station and filed a complaint? How many kids saw that you had liqour bottles at home,and where were your daughters,How old did you say they were?Your Daughter needs to get to this girl somehow,hopefully they are good friends,and put it in her head that the boys brought the booze and if she got drunk at your house,she did it w/o anyone knowing anything abt it,empty out your bottles and put food coloring and water in them and say there was no wat they got drunk on that stuff,Heck you were using those bottles for decoration,right,Now Im grasping at straws,lol,Tam,if you have a lawyer friend,see what he can suggest,heck most of them are such crooks,and great liars,,,,

[lyds]

quote:Originally posted by tamara02

Hi LYDS ,How are you doing this evening???Ya its nuts to spend that much money and have barely anything to show for it,,Ya we had fun the other nite when it had snowed.You know I wonder where all our guys are tonite,they are not posting as much as they have been,I miss their humor,anyways maybe they will come around soon,Take care ,Tamm Ps I bet you have a wonderful husband,dont you???I can tell,

hi Tamm! Had to step away from the computer for a bit. Had a little drama to tend to. Teenage boys and all.

I noticed the posting has slowed a little. I am praying that's because everyone is feeling great and they are out and about!

I really do have a wonderful husband, Tamm. Thanks for commenting about him. He is a very supportive person and listens to me babble on and on about what I am dealing with and this board. I've told him how much this place has helped me and he thinks the board AND you all are great!

[lyds]

Well, Tamm, if you're still out there I'd like to say goodnight. Church comes early in the AM and I want to be good and rested, though I think it's a little late for the "good" part!

Have a wonderful evening and a blessed Sunday! I hope to pop on sometime tomorrow!

Good night!
Lyds