[Kaidog]

Who was it that posted about the strange neighbor?

My wife reminded me about something that occurred when my kids were little and we lived in our previous home.

Back then, my next door neighbors were clearly dealing drugs. About 20 or 30 cars a day would drive up to the house. One guy would stay in the car and the other would go inside for about 5 or 10 minutes after which he would exit with a lunch bag in his hands and they would drive off only to make room for the next car. Whatever. That part never really never bothered me except for the amount of traffic it generated in a otherwise quiet neighborhood.

The part that caused all the friction between us is that these neighbors would play their $10,000.00 stereo at about a zillion decibles at all hours of the night. It was so loud that I could not only hear the base line but every little subtletly and nuance of the music. 10:00 o'clock - 11:00 o'clock - midnight and beyond, every night of the week.

One night I'd "had it" and went next door in an effort to get them to turn the music down.

Knock, knock, knock........................... no answer.

This time much louder. KNOCK, KNOCK, KNOCK............ still no answer.

I wait for a break between the songs. The music is blasting through the front door. Finally a break.

KNOCK, KNOCK, KNOCK............. Still no answer. Now I'm really mad. Now I'm kicking the door, trying to break it down. My wife is behind me crying, trying to get me to "just forget it".

FINALLY, the doper answers the door, eyes at half mast, hair in his eyes.

I scream at him.
"Have you got any idea what time it is?" Now, I'm not making this up. His answer was........
"Just a minute." He walks away and returns in just a few seconds and says...........
"It's 12:25." Now I explode at his stupidity............ like I had [u]really</u> walked over there to see what time it was.

"Some people have to work in the morning!" I scream at him. "You wanna turn that music down?"

"Sure man. No problem."

He closes the door and turns the music down by about a billionth of a degree. I'm pacing back and forth, debating whether I should kick his door in or call the police and wait the 4 hours it will take to have them respond or what. Finally, in a flash of inspiration, I go to my garage and rummage through my tool box and find a pad-lock. I immediately marched to the main electrical panel of their house, opened the panel, threw the main breaker, closed the panel and pad locked it. Their entire house went dark...................... and silent.

I can hear them talking inside and to all the world it sound like a Cheech and Chong bit.

"Hey man.............. the power went out."
"Wait dude................. the rest of the neighborhood has power."
"What the........... ?"

I retreat to my own house and after something like 30 minutes, I hear a knock on my front door. I immediately answer and it's hippie-next-door-neighbor.

"Hey man, did you turn off our power?"

"Yep. Sure did." I closed the door without further comment and went to bed.

Conversation over.

Clean Date = 01/05/07

[Kaidog]

Thanks Tam. You have a great day as well.

Central California is finally warming-up. Much welcomed! I'm not used to this freezing, sub-30 degree weather.

Clean Date = 01/05/07

[tamara02]

Morning lyds,that my dear is really not a relapse,You took one pill,that was it,I'd stay w/your original clean date,What do you guys think????Take care Tamm

[lyds]

Hi all!

Bobbyzworld : Where are you? Are you okay?

Kai : Thanks for the encouragement, as always. I am feeling GREAT and I have been for the past few days. I still tire a little easier than I should, but it's coming together. I exercised for an hour last night. About 45 minutes the night before! That was pretty awesome for me....As far as my clean date, don't know what to say about that. Part of me says go with 1-20 but I had that relapse on 1-29, so ???

To everyone else : I am praying for us all. Sincerely.

Have a great day!!

[tamara02]

hi lyds I wrote you a post but it got a haed of yours on the previous page,Tamm

[tamara02]

Hi Lori and lisagirl ,just checking on ya'll!!!!!!!Tamm

[lyds]

Tamm: Thanks so much for your input. That's what I need to hear. I also agree with you, but would love to hear what others feel, also.....Oh, we didn't get any snow down here in the southern part of Alabama. In fact, they thought we'd get some sleet, but didn't. That I am thankful for. I wanted the snow, however. I miss the heck out of it! I am a transplanted northern! So, anyhoo, it's just nasty and rainy and sloppy here today. Not good for my mood, if you know what I mean !

[tamara02]

Hi Lyds did you read where me and my 4yrold son went outside after midnite last nite to play in the snow ,it was fun,TammPs cheer up sweetie,I guess bobby is still sleepin or off to work ,but ask him for his input,he seems to have his sh-t together!!!Love ya Tamm

[lyds]

Kai: That is a wild story about your neighbors all those years ago. Sounds like something my husband would have done. The only difference being because he works for a power company, he probably would have somehow pulled the meter base and then locked it up! I am kidding, of course, but he totally would have done what you did....Also, Kai, CONGRATS on your upcoming month of being clean. That is so awesome and I'm pretty sure I speak for people other than myself when I say you have been such an inspiration to a lot of us! God Bless! Well, He has, hasn't he?

[lyds]

quote:Originally posted by tamara02

Hi Lyds did you read where me and my 4yrold son went outside after midnite last nite to play in the snow ,it was fun,TammPs cheer up sweetie,I guess bobby is still sleepin or off to work ,but ask him for his input,he seems to have his sh-t together!!!Love ya Tamm

I saw your post about you and you son out in the snow last night, well, this morning, actually. I am so envious of that! .....Bobbyzworld posted yesterday morning (I think) and has been MIA since. I just get a little worried. I know that's silly because I was fairly busy yesterday after work. I didn't have time to come and post.

Have a great day today, Tamm!!

[nymommy]

KAI..congrats on your time..how long is the longest you ever made it??..sleep sucks, i have the opposite of you..i fall right to sleep,then up way to early..lets just say, i was at the gym at 5:45 am this morning..

[lyds]

quote:Originally posted by nymommy

KAI..congrats on your time..how long is the longest you ever made it??..sleep sucks, i have the opposite of you..i fall right to sleep,then up way to early..lets just say, i was at the gym at 5:45 am this morning..

NYMommy: You were so right about the exercising. I am still "forcing" myself as the desire has yet to return, but I am so glad I've done it once it's over! Thanks for being so insistent about it!

[tamara02]

Hi,Nymommy ,Guess what I e-mailed Morticia , yesterday and I got a reply,She said to tell all of ya'll Hello!!!she's doing great has been of the methadone for a month now, I asked her to pop in and surprize everyone,just to say hi ,anyways,she said she couldn't put up w/ the remarks from arlewna and Abbey,I told her they just posted for a couple of pages and then dissapeared ,I guess back to heroin-detox.com,Anyway,how are you doing,good I hope,chat w/ ya later .love ya Tamm[8D]

[gordo]

I am a 43 yr. old father of 2 and married. I have been taking Tramadol for about 2 years ( 300-400 mg per day) and would LOVE to wean myself off but would like to find out the propper way to do that .If there is anyone who can help me with that I would be greatful.

[tamara02]

Hi Gordo,Glad you're her ,I'll tell you what try the forum right below this one,its;featured drugs,current topics ultram/ultracet,(tramadol)bet they can answer all your questions pertaining to tramadol,keep in touch ,Tamm

[tamara02]

Hi syd,I sent you an E-mail check it out ,tamm

[hatelove percs]

hey girls and guys: congrats to everyone on cleantime!!!! it is day four for me and i must say i am having trouble with cravings but hanging in as i am determined to make it this time. much more so than the last. i think i quit last time more because i just ran out of pills. school was canceled here today because of snow. i've got four wheel drive though so i am going to try to get the energy to go to the store. TRY to. we have no food at all because no energy at all. it is all i can do to get to my blazer to take the child to a drive through!! i felt so good on day two and i am dying today. i am hoping to find some of that emergenC stuff. perhaps that will help a bit. i hope. this is what did me in time before last after a month of it. it kept getting worse instead of better. UNCLE NASTY: i sure wish i could help ya with that one, but i don't know anything bout methadone. i have heard that a couple months is not enough to really work?...i used to have a friend that shot the morph though but she screwed up her arms to bad finally, went to neck shots and almost died before she quit. i sure would rather see you go to methadone than have that happen!!!!

[tamara02]

Hi H/l Its quiet on here right now,Im sorry youre feeling bad,I heard days 3-7 can be pretty bad,Just hold on sweetie,Do you have anyone that can help out while you just try to relax on the couch for a few days?cause you'll probably feel like you have a really bad flu.That's why I had to do the sub.thing.Wish my mommy lived near by ,Then I would have gone cold turkey.Have you ever tried or heard of the Thomas Recipe???Just hang on ,I'll be praying for you,Tamm

[lyds]

quote:Originally posted by hatelove percs

hey girls and guys: congrats to everyone on cleantime!!!! it is day four for me and i must say i am having trouble with cravings but hanging in as i am determined to make it this time. much more so than the last. i think i quit last time more because i just ran out of pills. school was canceled here today because of snow. i've got four wheel drive though so i am going to try to get the energy to go to the store. TRY to. we have no food at all because no energy at all. it is all i can do to get to my blazer to take the child to a drive through!! i felt so good on day two and i am dying today. i am hoping to find some of that emergenC stuff. perhaps that will help a bit. i hope. this is what did me in time before last after a month of it. it kept getting worse instead of better. UNCLE NASTY: i sure wish i could help ya with that one, but i don't know anything bout methadone. i have heard that a couple months is not enough to really work?...i used to have a friend that shot the morph though but she screwed up her arms to bad finally, went to neck shots and almost died before she quit. i sure would rather see you go to methadone than have that happen!!!!

Hate/love: Don't give up! Let me tell you it will feel like it's getting worse instead of better as far as the energy. That's why this time of trying to come clean has been the hardest. I never was zapped like this before. BUT, keep coming back here and reading posts because I am here to tell you, it does get better. I am on day 12 (keeping in mind the little relapse on Monday) and I feel really good. Hang in there, girl!

[hatelove percs]

oops i didn't mean to put a mean face in the last post. thats so wierd the way my computer just does what it wants on here sometimes! yeah, i don't think i'm gonna make it to the store. unfortunately i don't have anyone to help. i was supposed to go out with a buddy of mine tonite, but that ain't happenin'[xx(] if i stay laying down it isn't to bad but who the heck with kids can do that??? even with a teenager, they still gotta be run around, fed, etc. she can cook but i gotta get her food to do it with. lol. i am laying here with wet hair just trying to get the energy to blow dry. if i go out with it wet it will freeze i love you guys you are so supportive

[tamara02]

Hey maybe that Ice cold wind will get you right in the face and wake you up real quik,lolTamm Ps I got to go to the store,too,I mean again,If we lived near by I would run to the store for you,Tamm

[nymommy]

H/L...unfortunatley for me i dont seem to get better everyday, instead its more like "somedays are better than others"..i spent sooo much time reading and trying to find answers...honestly time is the only thing that seems to "work"..today i had a good day, and i really don't think of pills all that much...but as i said before, i"ll never feel safe.please hang in there!!......TAMM..good news bout mort!

[tamara02]

Nymommy,How long did you say you were off the pills,I reason I ask is someone was on quite a few posts back ,mentioning something about P.A.W.S,Do you Remember,Also there is alot posted about it at the Heroin-detox.com under diffenent painkiller addictions,I have a feeling when I get off this sub.Its still gonna be heck,followed by depression,etc....from what i've read.from what I've read It will take maybe years til our brains are all straightened out.I've been taking hydros for over 10 years,So I guess it may take a while to get healthy..what we put our selves through,huh!!will make us stronger,,Tamm

[hatelove percs]

i wonder if it depends on what drug you were addicted too. NYMOMMY: u r detoxing from sub, right? that is supposed to be real hard, huh? if we had it available i don't know if i would do it or not because of that cause i just can't imagine something worse than this. i don't think i would ever get off. and TOM and LYDS getting off methadone? unreal. simply undoable in my head right now!! superhuman will power and strength!!

[nymommy]

H/L i totally know what your feeling...laying w/ wet hair, unable to make the next move (blow dry it)..and yea kids throw a whole different spin on it...driving them around...laundry, dinner ..now its time for the sad face!..i hate it all...and got to do it all!...i told my kids i wasnt feeling well..that bought me 2 days...

[nymommy]

tamm ..im off sub 3 weeks monday..i know all bout PAWS (thanks arlene!)..hoping since i only used for less then 2 yrs..and really not that much (5-7 a day)..i'm not gonna suffer for YEARS...i'd never make it NO WAY....

[bobbyzworld123]

Hi Lyds,

I'm fine thank you! I'm glad you're doing well since your one little incident! Good job! As far as what your clean date is, I think it's best for your mindset to stay with the original date. You NEED today to be your 12th day and not your 3rd. Mentally its a very big deal! You didn't get a buzz, didn't fall back into w/d, keep your clean date the same.

I'm keeping busy trying to not focus on this stuff. Early on I needed the board alot to get me through every hour, now I just try to avoid it and stay busy. Actually there's only about one post per page that actually pertains to the topic so maybe I could come around more! I love sarcasm..... [}]

I will check in and if I can feel that I can try to help someone I will, but I probably won't post much anymore. I know everyone here has been through this for a lot longer than me and likely dont care to hear my theories/lectures, but I know there are a lot of people reading that aren't "members" that I think I can help.

I hope everyone is doing well, if you're thinking of using, where will that get you? You can take a big step backwards and go through all of the hell you've been through AGAIN and eventually be at this point of your recovery and be faced with the same feeling...

Ever seen Groundhog Day? Beat it this time, never go back.....

quote:Originally posted by lyds

Hi all!

Bobbyzworld : Where are you? Are you okay?

Kai : Thanks for the encouragement, as always. I am feeling GREAT and I have been for the past few days. I still tire a little easier than I should, but it's coming together. I exercised for an hour last night. About 45 minutes the night before! That was pretty awesome for me....As far as my clean date, don't know what to say about that. Part of me says go with 1-20 but I had that relapse on 1-29, so ???

To everyone else : I am praying for us all. Sincerely.

Have a great day!!

[tamara02]

Ny (arlene) funny,,,,no really ,though Im on my 3rd month on sub and I was afraid that Im gonna be on to long,alot of the posts I've read say to get off in 21 days,and Ill probably be on it 3-6 more months ,unless I try to taper quicker on my own,I dont know,I see the sub doc tomorrow,she wants me down from 16mg to 8mg for the mext 3 mo,Ive been taking 4mgs less the past 2 weeks on my own ,so maybe I wouldn't feel to much w/d,s,,,well see,,,,,,,,,,,Bobby love to hear your theories/lectures,and by the way ,proud of your clean time,you guys just are so much stronger,mentally and physically,you,kiadog,tom,cominghome...Tamm[8D]

[scared_ohio]

Hiya everyone! How are you guys doing? I'm on day two of the suboxone, and let me tell ya, today is a heck of alot different than yesterday. Last night I only slept about 3 hours, then when I woke up, I took my first pill, and a half hour later, I threw up. I was not happy.[xx(] So an hour after that, I had to take another one, so instead of taking two today, I've taken three, even though only two were absorbed. Am I making sense? Also, I've started freaking out about coming off the suboxone. I'm reading about all these people that have done it and went through HORRIBLE withdrawals, and I'm thinking "Why did I do this?" Man, if I go through bad withdrawals, my hubby's gonna think all the money this is costing was wasted.
Ok, isn't there a 12 step saying that goes, "One Day at a Time"? Ain't that the truth! Is anyone around the Cincinnati area? Just curious.
I wonder if I can even say I'm off pills yet? I don't think so...
Have a good night!
Gen

[nymommy]

tamm i was on it 5 months total..after reading bout how hard it was to come off, well i got scared..i was never on more than 4 mgs a day, which i quickly reduced to 2 mgs after a few months..stayed there awhile...then went to 1 mgs...that was hard!!...i tried alternating days too..when finally i just jumped....it wasnt easy, but i knew it would be harder the longer i lingered..doctor gave me clonidine to help, i never filled the script though...so maybe i made it harder than it had to be...that bupe hotel forum scared the s**t out of me!