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Old 06-30-2005, 05:57 PM
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Hey heres alittle trick I do when I come up early with my doctor.. If you have Back injuries like me,and it was the original reason you started taking Pain Meds or any injuries, go to a Hospital and start flipping out about you're back or say you have severe stomach pain, it works all the time..Most times 80% of the time they will give you a shot of torridal which does shyt..But then tell the nurse it doesn't work and use the withdrawel pain and put it into you're act.. then next will come a shot of usually demerol which will take the withdrawal away in like 30 seconds!!! I mean this is what I do incase of withdrawal,and then you will usually get released the same night or day with a script for like 15 to 20 pills which will tide you over till you're real appt..So heres alittle help on that..PS if you get admitted it's even better, I think a shot of Demerol or Morphine in a IV is better then any pain pill out there,and usually is a pleasurable experience!

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Hey heres alittle trick I do when I come up early with my doctor.. If you have Back injuries like me,and it was the original reason you started taking Pain Meds or any injuries, go to a Hospital and start flipping out about you're back or say you have severe stomach pain, it works all the time..Most times 80% of the time they will give you a shot of torridal which does shyt..But then tell the nurse it doesn't work and use the withdrawel pain and put it into you're act.. then next will come a shot of usually demerol which will take the withdrawal away in like 30 seconds!!! I mean this is what I do incase of withdrawal,and then you will usually get released the same night or day with a script for like 15 to 20 pills which will tide you over till you're real appt..So heres alittle help on that..PS if you get admitted it's even better, I think a shot of Demerol or Morphine in a IV is better then any pain pill out there,and usually is a pleasurable experience!

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Sounds like it would work. Suboxone was much easier though. All you need is a weeks or even a few days worth or the stuff, and the will to quit. I'm doing it right now and it works like a charm. No withdrawal or anything. Luckily I have a friend who had aquired some Suboxone for the purpose of quitting and I'm actually quitting before him because of the ones he gave me. Anyany good luck to you, Suboxone is the way to go.

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Old 06-30-2005, 06:16 PM
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Another Question..My Pain Mgmt centre is a Pain Mgmt, a fully stocked pharmacy,and a Detox Centre.. They have no problems giving out meds,and I drive 300 Miles each way to get to this FN place,especially while going through withdrawel is pure hell..Now my Doc increased me to Oxycontin,but I think Roxicodone is more potinent,and much cheaper, so I switched back! But he says he will give me Injection Pain Mgmt if I want,like Demerol or Dilaudid I guess.. Does anyone have a Opionin on this? he also said I have to pay to take a class on Injection Pain Mgmt.. He said it will help with stomach problems like I been having especially my colon is getting dammaged, I was just in the hospital for an Inflamed colon which happened to fall on withdrawel days and I got shots of dilaudid and Oxycontin to take home! Does anyone else get the Double sneeze Withdrawal? Thats usually my first signs of Withdrawal the double sneeze,and extremely runny nose,the worst part is insomnia and the restless legs,I hate the leg thing..I just wish i could meet a friend to help me through this or help each other..I'm in Tampa Bay FL, and might be moving back to LI NY soon! Thanks Jon!

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Old 07-01-2005, 09:32 AM
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Hey man if you need a fix go to a hospital and start complaing about you're back or neck/stomach whatever..Don't tell them about withdrawel but you will get pain pills..
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i guess i will ask every 1 i see 2night here at werk, if they have one, so i dont need to panic, ok....uh frist i will call Barge Terminal!!!

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Old 07-01-2005, 10:08 AM
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Hey Axaxax have you tried duragesic???It's the fentanyl patch and is perfect for people like you with stomach and colan problems.The only problem with im injections is they only last 2-3 hous max.I would try something that lasts longer like the patch otherwise your going to turn into a pin cushion.Good luck and keep us informed if you like.....Dave

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Hi its me Tim again. I'm at the end of day 4, getting ready to go to sleep. I'm not feeling any discomfort or pain at all like I typically would by now. It may be hard to sleep but I have remedies for that. Sometimes I feel like I don't even need the Suboxone and I'll feel ok, hopefully soon enough it is that way. Also today I remembered what it feels like to have spending money again... so I bought a new pair of shoes and a shirt. Anyway thats all I'm going to bed. Good luck to all

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Old 07-01-2005, 10:34 PM
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If only I could remember if it were one day or two days since i myself have been off the pills. I was eating percacets and vicodins like Crazxy for the last two months and before that clonopin. I believe I am having withdrawel. I believe it more reading some of these posts. It really does suck. I am trying to tough it out, as I don't remember a time when I wasn't on pills. I really really really hate being a pill junkie. I love the high but I hate it all in general. I am glad to have found this thread so that maybe I can curse and scream and cry. I find so far the mood swings to be the worst....will it get better.....
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Old 07-02-2005, 01:30 AM
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Dear Hollywagger,
I can see your point. Let's keep in mind that Bup is a synthetic opiate, not opiate based (little different, not much). Meaning it is made a certain way for a certain reason. It contains Naloxone which makes hydro ineffective if you use it while you are taking the bup. It does not make you feel high, it just takes away the withdrawals. Saying this...there is no reason if you are not feeling a high to become physically adddicted. Keep in mind I was careful not to say mentally addicted. Soundng too much like a politician ??? Alot of people have the capacity to become mentally addicted to anything. Anyway, I know someone who comes into our ER who thinks she is addicted to aspirin...and she is. Mentally addicted that is.
I do not know of anyone who used this medicine as directed and had a real desire to quit that it did not work for. Anyone can abuse anything. I mean that is why this board is here. That is also the reason why I do not suggest Methadone treatment. Methadone is highly addictive. And I think it is just sad that people trade one addiction for another. I was able to quit totally with just 10 (8mg) Subutex and I had been taking 6-7 Lortab a day for about 3 years(mixing them with Soma and Xanax). I know of people who have used for longer than that and quit. The key is to not abuse the Subutex. Set a goal for yourself. I did and I actually have 2 of the 10 Subutex left. I was firm in my goals and was able to quit in 8 days.
I'm glad you were able to quit. Stay strong.
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Old 07-02-2005, 07:37 AM
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Day 5. Towards the end of the day, I am still not in any discomfort or pain. Gonna go for a swim. I feel I have the energy to for the first time in a long time. I already feel my energy and appetite coming back. That 2 week marking is looking closer and closer. I can't wait. I am so glad that I am on the way to being over with this. Thats all for now. Good luck to all you people in similar situations that read my posts. And kudos to mpvt for commending my efforts .

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1 week clean. At this point I'm getting ready to stop taking the Suboxone, I should be good to go without. My next goal is 2 weeks, and then 1 month. I'll check in and hopefully stay clean for a long time. Adios.
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Well guys i couldn't do it, i am back on them, i guess im so weak that i'LL never quit. Oh well, might as well go out happy, I stole 2 80 mg Oxycodones from a family member but i break them in half and two pieces last me a day right now until i get used to it again. Maybe one day if I get married or have kids i will wanna stop if its not too late. I ruined my life this time, there so easy to get addicted to and i wouldve never thought in a million years that me Mr. Anti Drug would be addicted to any damn thing. I used to look down on dope heads and stuff and now look at me, How pathetic i ended up. I love em though so what can I say. They make me so so so so happy and I could live off of them alone with noone to love forever.

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Old 07-04-2005, 04:56 AM
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HHey anyone ever take Soma? Did they change the Compound? I been off them for acouple yrs and I just got a script filled my doc was like do you want soma too besides the Oxys and xanax I was like sure ya know the theory whatever I can get.. I usto take 2 and feel smashed then pass out for 8 hours..Now I took two and thought after yrs I would be f*cked up,wrong..Someone then told me they changed the carosporodol compound..Something has definitley changed.. I remember taking two on a greyhound bus Leaving NYC bieng knocked out befor eI got to NJ waking up in North Carolinna taking 3 more waking up in S taking two more then waking up in Jacksonville FLA>.LOL It was a nice drug inbetween pian pills,it made me use less pills and kept my tolerance down to where i would take pain meds and then after take soma pass out wake up almost in withdrawel then take more pain meds then soma etc..

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Old 07-04-2005, 05:02 AM
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Hey Ambien Lady I love ambien too,it makes everything distorted and makes me hallocinate and feel good too, it's a different kinda high! You will be ok Ambien isnt physically addicting,it helps with withdrawal from pain pills too,and Lortab isnt that addiccting,quit before you move on to bigger and badder things like oxycodone/Contin! Jon..
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Unfortunately I am addicted to lortab and ambien. I live in a very abusive relationship (I also have disabeled children and I feel like there is no out for me) I have to admit, I like the lortab and the ambien. It's like I can actually enjoy myself for a little while after everyone goes to sleep. I am scared to death that I am addicted---I have taken them every night for a year and a half. I found this site by accident and it just has captivated me.
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HHey anyone ever take Soma? Did they change the Compound? I been off them for acouple yrs and I just got a script filled my doc was like do you want soma too besides the Oxys and xanax I was like sure ya know the theory whatever I can get.. I usto take 2 and feel smashed then pass out for 8 hours..Now I took two and thought after yrs I would be f*cked up,wrong..Someone then told me they changed the carosporodol compound..Something has definitley changed.. I remember taking two on a greyhound bus Leaving NYC bieng knocked out befor eI got to NJ waking up in North Carolinna taking 3 more waking up in S taking two more then waking up in Jacksonville FLA>.LOL It was a nice drug inbetween pian pills,it made me use less pills and kept my tolerance down to where i would take pain meds and then after take soma pass out wake up almost in withdrawel then take more pain meds then soma etc..

John
AxAxAx,
Are you crying out for help?? Sounds like you have some MAJOR problems,, no kidding. Have you ever had professional help or even seriously tried to decrease your drug use on your own?? You need a new Dr. or should I say you need " a doctor", I am not sure your supplier is one. Don't keep dosing yourself on everything that you can obtain,,,eventually you WILL succeed,, I promise, I've seen it too many times.......Good luck!
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Hey JesterX have you tried buprenorphene????Oxycontin is an ok narcotic but after awhile you won't get that euphoric buzz off of it.Your tolerance will build up until the only thing that will work is shooting heroin and by that time your done.You really should take what your doing very seriously.I was actively addicted for 22 years and for the last 3 years I've controlled it with methadone.I couldn't get high off of 3000mgs of morphine,so believe me when I tell you that sooner or later you'll try something stronger.Be carefull and look into buprenorphene before you get to addicted.....Good luck..Dave

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Even though no one ever responded to my post a few weeks ago,i decided to post again anyway..It helps for me to get it off my chest..I had posted how I got hooked on Hydrocodone,up to 10 pills a day,then told my family and doc,and was being weaned off them..That helped a little bit,but the craving was there..Well hubby didnt hide them well enough,so I started sneaking again,and I am right where I started again.I dont know what to do..Deep down I know I shouldnt take them...Taking them now seems different.Im more tired and feels like I have to take more to achieve the good feelings I was having before....I dont even know if I want to stop taking them...My family and the doc say,just try to stop thinking about them..That kind of makes me mad for them to say that..Its not that simple...If it was,I wouldnt be taking them...I need thier support ,not lectures and criticism.Well like I said,no one has responed to me before,and if no one does now,I will have to deal with that.For some reason its easy to write what I feel much easier than it is to actually talk about it,and not be judged on here....Good luck to anyone dealing with an addiction..I really feel for anyone who has to go through it.
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..Deep down I know I shouldnt take them...Taking them now seems different.Im more tired and feels like I have to take more to achieve the good feelings I was having before....I dont even know if I want to stop taking them...My family and the doc say,just try to stop thinking about them..That kind of makes me mad for them to say that..Its not that simple...If it was,I wouldnt be taking them...I need thier support ,not lectures and criticism.Well like I said,no one has responed to me before,and if no one does now,I will have to deal with that.For some reason its easy to write what I feel much easier than it is to actually talk about it,and not be judged on here....Good luck to anyone dealing with an addiction..I really feel for anyone who has to go through it.
The first and most important part to quitting opiates is having the want to be clean, otherwise any attempts with almost definitely fail. If you get to the point where you realize you need to and want to clean up, there are drugs to help you kick the habit. I cleaned up 10 days ago and I had the help of Suboxone, plus I really wanted to quit, so I just stopped procrastinating, finished my dope and started the meds. 10 days later I'm clean as a whistle, I don't even want dope anymore.
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I am 37 yrs old and have had an addiction to painkillers at varying degrees since I was in my early twenties. The last 10 yrs have been horrific in terms of how the addiction has escalated. I was taking anywhere from 15 to 25 percocet a day or 3-5 40mg oxycontin (depending on availability), or really whatever I could get my hands on there at the end. At the beginning I felt I had control of it but the last few years I had realized it was by far the demon in control of me. I have been through the horror of running out of pills (despite my several "reliable" sources) and have faced withdrawals on numerous occasions (too many to count). I have even been through withdrawal from methadone, which I would never wish on anyone!! However, I would always find myself getting through the first week and begin to start feeling physically better, and start right back. Each time the addiction would get even stronger and gain even more control over me.
I would like to offer some hope to anyone out there who is caught up in this viscious cycle and craves total freedom. I am now 55 days clean and believe me there is life without the pills. Life is even sweeter without the drugs and the joy WILL RETURN. It takes a strong committment but believe me it is possible. I will continue this post...but although I have been following this forum for some time now, this is my first post and I want to make sure it goes successfully before I spend alot of time typing my story for you guys.
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In continuance of my previous post, I would like to share some of the things that have been different this time that has helped me to get to 55 days. I know I am not out of the woods but I have the best handle on my life now than I have had for some time, since I began abusing the meds.
I just became sick and tired of the entire scene. The lying and deceitfulness, the money I was throwing away, the people I was hurting, everything. For the first time, I felt as though I was at the end of my rope, and I was ready to do anything, no matter what it took to get off the stuff. I began by calling an addiction hotline and I was lucky enough to speak to a girl named Charlotte, a 56 yr old lady who was a former addict, and clean for several years. We talked for about an hour and one thing that she said to me has stuck with me throughout all this. She said, "you will feel good again naturally. Life becomes joyous again, even more so without the pills." She said, "I get up in the mornings and look forward to my day." That has given me so much hope and from what I have experienced in just 55 days, it is so true. Life is good again.
This time I also made the decision to disclose my addiction to my parents. I believe that was the hardest thing I ever did, but, I believe once I did that, it gave me a strength to press forward that I had never had before. I am very close to my parents but I have been able to keep the secret from them over the years. Or so I thought. In speaking with them I learned that there had been some suspicion on their part. But I believe my honesty with my wife and family has made all the difference for me in maintaining my decision to stop. I would suggest being careful who you disclose your addiction to. Personally, I would never tell co-workers about my problem because people who do not love you will sometimes turn on you. So, be honest with your loved ones and tell them of your commitment, but do not tell acquaintances, only those who truly love you.
I also kept a very detailed journal during this time, especially during the week of withdrawals. Even though I did not feel like even picking up a pen some days, I would at least try to make an entry for everyday. This will give you a reference during those weak moments to help you remember the struggles you went through. Withdrawal is terrible. Writing it down seems to imprint it more upon my memory.
I have also made an effort to stay busy with work and family. I have had so much time on my hands since I am not now chasing the meds. I have tried to channel this energy into more productive endeavors, although this is not always easy.
And last but certainly not least, prayer has been the source of strength for me. For the last ten years I have not been the most religious person but faith has played a real part in my recovery. There have been so many times in the past when I have asked God to take this addiction away from me and I felt like He was not hearing me. This time has been different from the others because I made several steps in the direction of freedom from my own addiction. Some people might argue that it was from my own frustration that I finally got the strength to do what I had to do on my own, but I truly feel that once I made that first step toward my sincere recovery that God took two steps towards me.
As I said, I know I will always have this addiction and that it will be a lifetime battle for me to control it, but it does get bearable, just give it time. There have been some hard times when I felt that maybe I could never be happy without the drug, and maybe some of you feel this way, but hang in there because everyday gets a little bit easier. The first thirty days I felt pretty good but I continued to think about the pills everyday. But at thirty days and just after, I did not think about it excessively anymore. It took less and less energy to put the thoughts of the pills out of my mind. Now I have days where I hardly even am aware of the pills. I do miss the euphoric feelings they gave me just like many of the recovering addicts talk about, but I have come to the realization that I cannot live the life I want to live by abusing pills just to get that feeling. Its a deadly trap that will kill if allowed to. And most of you will probably agree that once you reach a certain point you do not really get that high, you just have to take the meds just to feel normal. Well after 55 days I can truly say that I feel normal without the pills, and it can be done cold turkey. I am not at all disputing the ones of you who have chosen to use other medications to help with withdrawals, I wish anyone with this problem all the best. But sooner or later, if we are to be healed from this, we will have to face withdrawal for the last time.
Hang in there people ! Life can be wonderful again !
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I'm 17 years old and I came across this forum through a google search. I was looking for information on the drug ACTIQ fentanyl.("lollipops")
I'm not sure how this sight works, but I'm going to give it a try.

I'm not a drug user, but I saw that everyone was supporting each other so much that I thought maybe you can help me in my quest to find out if my mother is one.
My grandfather has gone through a lot. He's had many accidents, like breaking his back which has scarred him for life. He has two metal bars that hold his spine together. He is also a surviver of lung cancer. He had part of it removed. He's always in a lot of pain so he has to take lots of drugs. We live close to him so my mother is constantly taking care of him. She is always there for him and takes him to the doctors and helps him with his prescriptions, etc.
The other night she had him come sleep at our house to get him out for a little bit.
I've recently been noticing my mom has been extrememly drousy. When you look at her, her eyes want to close and can't focus. She does stuff on E-bay so when she's sittig on the computer her head will be on the key board. When I ask her why she's falling asleep she'll tell me, "I was just waiting for the page to come up." and gets real defensive. One time I came downstairs and caught her with a stick in her mouth that she quickly ripped out and put her hands between her legs. I pretended to not see it to avoid confrontation, but now i was suspicious. A little while later I found the ACTIQ fentanyl sticks in her purse.
The prescription is for my grandfather so one day i asked her why she was taking his drugs and she got defensive "I am not!"

Last night I came downstairs again and she quickly grabbed the stick out of her mouth. A few minutes later came down with a real lollipop in her mouth to cover it up. I'm really concerned because when i looked it up it was a cancer pain drug and can also become addictive and hard to stop!! What should I do?!?

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Hi Worry: It's obvious that your mom is hiding her drug use.Can you look up addiction in your yellow pages.If you can get down to a addictions centre and grab up some pamphlets on narcotic abuse.Read them yourself and then leave them lying around were she will find them.There really isn't alot you can do other than keep an eye on her.Keep up with what your doing because I agree with your concern....Dave
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my doctor gave me ultram for the pain and ambient to help me sleep. She will definitely have to see a physician to help her get through this.
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Thank you so much for your help. I sincerely appreciate it!! I'm going to use your idea about getting information on this and leaving it where she can see it. I'll be back if i need more advice! thanks again!

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I'm just writing to reach out and share my story. Ive been hooked on percocets and oxy's for a year now. Iv'e gone to detox and managed to get almost 2 months in before starting again. I have come to quit again just being fed up and tired of feeling like I have no control. I'm on day 2 now of being clean and it sucks. I keep thinking about how one pill would make me feel good but I can't this time. No way, it's not gonna get me this time. The withdrawls aren't as bad as the first time I quit cause I haven't been doing as much but they still suck. No energy, no will to do anything but ly around. Oh well, I will get through it. One day at a time right.
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I have a really good friend who is addicted to the pain killer Hydrocodone. Anyhow she wants to stop but everytime she does she gets really bad withdrawals such as sweating and shaking, can't sleep, etc. I was wondering if anyone out there has been through this on their own without going to a treatment center. If so please tell me what to do for her and how long it took for the withdrawals to go away!!!! HELP!!!!
Usually if someone goes to a detox program they don't have to suffer to much from withdrawal because they medicate you there to make sure you don't go through any pain. When I went to detox they gave me valium and codeine and it worked wonders. My last few days there they tapered me down so it was all good. Other people there had to take methadone to keep from experiencing any sickness. Anyways try to maybe find somewhere that will medicate you in some way so you don't have to go through much pain. It's well worth it.
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Where do I begin? My story is like most others I suppose. I started using narcotics to treat legitimate pain but before long I enjoyed the high I got so much I started using them without pain. For me it started with migraines. One night to the ER and a shot of Demerol and Visterol (sorry about spelling) my journey began. Actually lets go back before that. I was unhappy as a teenager and hated life until I discovered weed at the age of 18. Life was great during those days (and I do mean days) then I grew up got married had kids and left the weed days behind me without the slightest of withdrawals. Now fast forward four years give or take later and I'm in the ER. I honestly never even knew there where legal narcotics out there like Demerol. So a few months pass and I get another shot. Then only a month and so on and so fourth until I was hooked and on a pain contract with a doctor to get one shot guaranteed per week. And I abused it so bad that even Dr's in the walk in clinic where they kept my contract refused to give me shots anymore because I was showing up the same day every week to get a shot. Not long after that I dabbled with the pills. I mean hell, no waiting in line at the ER for 2 hours to "possibly" get a shot and all I had to do was swallow them and get a close enough effect for me. Even as I write this now I'm on Vicodin only because my pain contract with my Dr. doesn't allow me to get my Percocet filled until next Friday. But that comes later. I started with Tylenol #3 and that was fine. But soon the high wasn't the same o I went up to Vicodin. That was good for awhile but the shots where still better until I found Percocet. It was perfect, the same high to me at home. My doctor started me of on 30 a month for pain. After awhile I saw what was happening to me and decided to give them up cold turkey after about two years. I was clean for 8 months with only the help of some blood pressure patch for the first week that supposedly helped the withdrawal symptoms. It worked or maybe my belief in it did. I don't know. Either way I was clean from about Sept. of 04 until March of this year. Then I hurt my shoulder and went back to my Dr who represcribed me Percocet knowing my addiction problem in larger quantities, 30 per week instead of a month. And before I knew it those 30 where gone in 3 or four days and I was stuck looking for some way to score. Dentist are usually the easiest target and since I have bad teeth that give me pain (but honestly can be controlled with a couple of Ibuprofen) scoring a prescription is pretty easy. I even narrow down what they can prescribe to me by listing allergies to the medicines they'll try first since Vicodin and Darvacett don‘t give me a buzz anymore. Alleve, Ultram, Turdoll, etc. and it works. I get a script for Percocett to get me through until my weekly refill comes. I guess I'm writing this now because I want to quit. I want to go back to the sober days of not worrying about scripts and how to score them. I want the first thing on my mind in the morning to be my life and family not where did I put my Percocett. My fear is that my addiction is worse now then it was. Before 30 Percocet would last m at leas a week, sometimes longer, now it's three to four days tops. I don't want to tell my Dr. I'm hooked again in fear he'll pull the plug and leave me cold turkey and most all the doctors in town know me or could at least look up my file (everyone is connected here) and then they‘ll just brush me off, professionally of course because “addict” is a dirty word. I don't want to worsen the habit by using Methadone. So where do I begin?
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Old 07-10-2005, 06:07 AM
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I will also throw this one out there. I always justify my habit. Beer drinkers have their six packs; smokers have their cigs, why not my Percocett and me. Are they detrimental to my health in that low of doses? I do follow the instructions on the label and never take more then two 5/325 Percocett per four hours. But with the insomnia I suffer from I'm up all night so you can se why the pills go quickly.

8am: 2 pills
12pm: 2 pills
4pm: 2pills
8pm: 2 pills
12am: 2 pills
4am: 2 pills
8am: 2 pills =
14 pills (but granted not every day is like that or I’d be out in two days. Mostly it’s ten pills a day.)

And thus completes a 24 hour cycle. And if I do sneak in sleep it's never more then four hours so I'm always awake for the next dose. Am I bull****ting myself (pardon the language) or do I really have a problem and just trying to justify it. I do feel dirty and ashamed of what I do, knowing people are in real pain out there and people like me make it harder on them. I don't like feeling this way but at the same time I do. Does this make any sense? Please any opinions would be great.
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Old 07-10-2005, 03:22 PM
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The only problem with percocet's is the tylenol.Tylenol has been shown to cause liver damage at high doses and 14 percocet's in one day is definately a high dose of tylenol.Why don't you switch to oxycontin.There is no tylenol in oxycontin just strait oxycodone which is the narcotic in your percocet.Percocet's are a weak pain killer at best and really should only be used for acute pain and not for more than 2 weeks.......Dave
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I'm having a difficult time finding literature or medical professionals that can tell me why taking pain medication helps INcrease my energy levels and mental clarity. I don't get the typical drowsy and 'out of it' feeling most people describe, just the opposite, and it was always this way, from the first time I took a pill. Can anyone out there tell me why this is so, and I'd like to hear from other people with the same experiences.
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This is to xcalibure-you are justifying your use. Chances are you could continue this level of abuse with these pills indefinitely, but who wants to focus all of their energy and time into 'scoring' these meds. I think that was the biggest reason for me quitting. Every thing in my life was centered around pain medication. I always had intentions of getting projects done, or even little things like housework, and I had the notion that these pills would give me the energy needed to accomplish these tasks. I would lie to myself and say that as soon as _____(fill in the blank)was done, I would quit. But there is ALWAYS something. You posted your scheduled daily pill intake, but I'm willing to bet it doesn't play out like that. I can almost guarantee that you take 1 pill, hoping to get something out of it, and when that doesn't happen, you take another 1/2 to 1 whole pill 30 minutes later, and this continues like this throughout the day. There are very few addicts out there that are able to stay on a schedule of every 4 hours.
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